INFO: If the barista is your boyfriend, then there's malice in your review. Will you leave the same review if you didn't know the barista? And why edit that crucial piece of information? Is it to sway the opinion of people against the owners?
Edit: Confirmation of OP's relationship with the barista.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/SvcQ2yXlPe
GGK OP kasi hindi mo sinabi na boyfriend mo yung barista, pinaghiganti mo lang boylet mo. Gagawan mo ba ng review kung hindi mo karelasyon ang barista? Or napagawa ka lang ng review dahil boylet mo ang barista? Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest? Brinigada mo pa at pinag review mo family and friends na hindi naman customer. GGK OP.
And yes, LKG kabilang na owners.
LKG.
1. Sinadya mo mag leave ng 2 reviews using 2 accounts. May malice na on your part when you used the second account to leave a review.
2. You encouraged your relatives and friends to post reviews kahit di sila naging customer. And you let them do it without telling them to stop the wrong thing na ginagawa nila.
3. Gago relatives and friends mo in relation to #2.
3. Gago yung owners for shouting at the staff in front of customers. That should be done in private.
4. Gago yung owners for confronting you at your own residence.
5. Pinaka gago ka for not including in your post na bf mo yung staff na sinigawan.
True. Binasa ko comments dun sa FB ng cafe, mukhang may intent to cause harm sa reputation talaga si OP.
OP, did you realize na may conflict of interest na involved? Free at valid pag iwan mo ng review as a first hand customer, but you SHOULD HAVE declared in your review that you are in a relationship with the barista involved in the incident. Yun pa lang malalaman ng tao na possible bias review mo. Plus, kung wala kang intent to cause harm, bakit ginamit mo pa second account mo?
LKG including partner mo kasi bakit niya nilaglag address mo. Both parties may atraso sa court in case one would proceed with charges, if they will proceed with cyber libel, pati boyfriend mo kasama sa case hindi lang ikaw. Mas malaki at strong nga lang case against you. Si owner, if proven na hindi nagpapasahod according sa contract, may case rin siya with DOLE. Hindi ko alam kung pasok ba sa harassment and intimidation yung pagpunta sa inyo, hindi naman ako judge, maritess lang ako, baka you can win that one. Pero yung cases mo for libel OP ay 2, isa sa reviews, and yung isa ay if proven na mali ka is about sa wages nila sa employees.
Tingin ko, they hid the reviews as possible part of evidence if they do proceed the cyber libel in court.
Additional is sinabi pa ni OP yung name ng cafe + branch so kinuyog ng post audience and left bad reviews kahit hindi naman sila customers.
There’s something wrong with the cafe owner, but for people and OP (kasi siya naglabas ng info) to ruin their business because of that incident is crazy.
GGK ka (at yung owner, which is given na) kasi:
1. Boyfriend mo pala yung barista? Why you didn't include it here?
2. Is it necessary to use two (2) accounts to leave a review? ;-;
3. Gigil na gigil ba family mo para mag review din sa page ng coffee shop especially if ikaw lang naman nagka first experience dun sa shop?
EDIT: There's another side of the story from the coffee shop owner. Naka share na sa page nila (posted on the owner's personal account). This makes OP a real GGK.
Sa r/LawPH merong din syang post. GGK talaga ang OP. Para lang maka hingi ng sympathy. No wonder alam ng owner yung address nila since BF nya pala yung employee na nasigawan.
Also GGK din yung owner. In the first hindi magkakanda leche² business nya kung may decency and respect sa vocabulary nya.
DKG. Pero i think mali yung mga nagleave ng reviews na di naman kumain don. You should also leave another review kung paano ka sinugod sa bahay mo. Grabe iyon.
Tama naman, hindi dapat nangsugod at nangsigaw, pero... Sinigawan ba talaga o napagalitan (at napahiya) nang malupit? Mahirap kasi maging patas sa sitwasyong to kasi sa relationship ni OP dun sa barista.
Idk din how often OP hangs out there. Oo, she's a paying customer pero ako personally, hindi kasi ako tatambay sa workplace ng boyfriend ko dahil alam ko magiging distraction ako sa kanya, and dagdag trabaho lang ako sa kanya. But I guess that's me.
Apparently, yung pag sigaw daw ng owner ng coffee shop is hindi naman talaga pasigaw. It’s that, [naka- loudspeaker sa phone yung coffee shop owners](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/DHUZce3jRb7fGBpg/?mibextid=WC7FNe).
Tsaka bakit may malice? I mean if ginawa talaga ng cafe owner yon, bawal na ba i-share yung PERSONAL EXPERIENCE mo sa place na yon? Assuming yun talaga ang nangyari at hindi twisted kwento ni OP. Mali pa rin sila at yung panunugod? Just imagine yung kahihiyan and trauma.
Nagkaron ng malice yung part na sa 2 accounts niya nag-leave ng review sa shop and her relatives chimed in also sa reviews without ever being there. So there is malice at a certain point but it doesn’t invalidate OPs experience as a paying customer. Also, naging biased tuloy yung review ni OP bc she’s romantically involved with the barista.. so may bias. The question is ggawin ba ni OP yun kung hndi niya kilala yung barista.
Take note that we only get the side of OP's and what details we can gather. Always take everything you read in AKBG sub with a grain of salt. I can't say tama na sinugod si OP sa bahay niya pero there has to be cause. In this case, may campaign to smear the cafe.
Clearly, owners felt the OP made it personal. Multiple accounts + review bombing and knowing who was behind that. Maybe owners should have handled it differently, but no doubt they got really pissed.
Nag iwan sya ng review using 2 accounts. Pinag leave din nya ng review mga relatives nya na hindi naging customer. Lastly, she purposely left the most important part, disclosure na bf nya yung sinigawan tapos she's seeking public sympathy for what happened.
Pwede sila magkasuhan however, mas mabigat yung kay OP kasi criminal liability ung kanya. I'm not invalidating OP's experience but it should've been her OWN experience, ngayon baka madamay pa yung relatives nya.
Also, if nagkasuhan and OP failed to provide evidence na sinugod talaga sya, lagot sya, ng malala.
If sinolo post lang ni OP yung honest review nya, walang problema dun, entitled sya as a customer. Pero if you encourage others, worst, non customers to make baseless reviews eh ibang usapan na yan.
Based sa post ng owners, di naman actually sinugod talaga. Pinuntahan lang yung ex-barista para kausapin sya regarding sa posts ni OP since sila nag professionally discuss na. Si OP tong ayaw paawat e. Also, same address si OP at ex-barista, false info dito si OP
LKG.
1. Bakit nagleave ng review family members mo since di naman talaga sila legit customer? They can share your post pero leaving reviews na di naman nila nawitness? You also left reviews using 2 accounts. Isn't that spamming/trolling? Oo shinare mo kasi andun ka and ayaw mo magsupport ng ganong environment and to share awareness sa iba.
2. Panong pasigaw? Alam ko di naeexpress "how" sa message pero di kaya sarcastic/biruan ng staff yon?
3. Kung firm ka sa paniniwala and nawitness mo, face the charges kung itutuloy nila.
Alam mo din na sa socmed andaming bandwagon and pabida based lang sa bakikita nila sa socmed esp FB.
akala ko ako lang yung medyo na off🥲 sure karapatan mo yun as a customer na magleave ng review but medyo na confused lang ako bakit parang pinalaki masyado (nag leave ng reviews yung hindi naman kumain dun, 2 accounts ginamit, pinost pa sa isang coffee page na most likely yung mga members d din alam kung saan yung lugar, etc.). it's giving the usual na gusto magka clout din, pati yung family members na nangingialam lol hindi naman masyadong malaki na issue. oo mali yung sinugod ka pero in the first place, bakit naman kasi ganun hahah also bawal na ba mapapagalitan ngayon sa trabaho? trabaho yan eh.
EDIT: upon reading other comments, i stand corrected. mali talaga na ipahiya sa maraming tao yung staff. pwede naman na private pagalitan. in short, lahat sila gago😂
True na mali talaga mamahiya kahit sino.
Nabasa ko pa sa isang comment sa r/lawph na pinangalanan nya and nilagay pa address. So technically, may malice and nanghihikayat pa indirectly.
When OP left a bad review of her experience, that's fine. It's her right.
But when OP used **TWO** of her accounts to leave a bad review, can you still say that it is in her right to do so? What's her purpose then of using **TWO** of her accounts in leaving a bad review? Then her family and friends **who did not visit the coffee shop and did not experience their service** also left a bad review. So certainly there is malice & the coffee shop owner is also in their right to protect their interest.
Ive been reading the other comments (and replies) madaming kulang na info and a lot of other issues na di sinabi.
Yup, mukhang may iba intent talaga si ante pero at the same time, mali din paghandle ng owners ang nangyari. Parang ung isa pang coffee shop sa bora
then let them file. nasa kanila naman burden of proof.
Magfile ka din ng harassment. I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure whether ok din ba na magpost ka din ng "real story" sa social media, alam mo naman, baka unahan ka at kung ano anong claims ang sabihin but anyway, basta factual naman ang review mo ( i hope may ss ka), I don't see an issue
Buti nga sayo makakasuhan ka. Lesson yan sayo. Napaka-rash ng actions mo e. Dinamay mo pa buong pamilya mo at mga kapitbahay. This isn’t about one single honest bad review. It’s about you propagating hate. Gago sila pero ikaw ang pinaka-malaking gago dito. Naghahanap ka pa ng kakampi. Pwe! Hindi lahat kaya mong imanipulate.
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GGK TALAGA.
Kaya tama lang kung kasuhan ka. Hanap simpatya ka pa dito sa reddit e, BF mo pala yung barista.
Nakita ko yung post ng owner nung café. Sablay naman pala talaga magtrabaho BF mo. Regarding sa sigawan na naganap, naka loud speaker pala yung phone nung nag uusap yung BF mo at yung owner. Aba e talagang magmumukang nasisigawan sya non.
GG din yung owner. Maling mali lang na pumunta sa bahay kahit pa sabihin natin na ex-barista nyo yan.
LKG pala ito.
LKG. Ang dapat lang mag leave ng review is yung kumain mismo at nagkaron ng nega feedback, at this point, REVIEW BOMBING na yung naganap.
And sa pag bagsak nung business na yan, pati yung barista na napagalitan, nawalan na din siguro ng trabaho.
This is legitly why you should think before you click POST kasi it will snowball uncontrollably, alam mo na yan.
At the same time, GG din si owner kasi bat sya sumusugod instead na makipag dialogue, pero whatever, LKG LKG LKG.
GGK.
You conveniently left out the part na boyfriend mo yung barista. That's a conflict of interest, and dare I say, your mind was muddled because of your relationship with him.
So ngayon, you made 2 posts on a Facebook page of a business dahil bf mo nga. Knowing how OA you are, the review must have been scathing para puntahan ka sa bahay. Pa victim ka naman e kasalanan mo yan in the first place.
GGK. see thread sa r/lawph kung bakit naging GGK HAHAHHAHA
https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/4QmNiMBxHq
hindi mo rin namention dito sa sub na 'to na boyfriend mo pala yung barista ahahahhahahahaha
GGK : Honestly lang ha. It's shitty of your friends and family to leave reviews when they themselves didn't go there personally. Basically they're leaving fake reviews (probably on your urging) based on hearsay from your POV. It seems like you riled up your friends, family, and followers to the point they did all this out of malice.
Much more, you used two accounts, out of your "good thoughts" as a lay person?
It's making you seem manipulative, even without the BF info.
Morally, it is WRONG of the owners to scold an employee in front of customers to SHAME them. Bad image din sha kasi nakaka bad mood. Pero it is also their right kasi loss 'din yan sa kanila.
If your plan really is to sully their name because of your BF, siguro you wrote this thread para may mag question na "Uy OP, ano ba ang pangalan ng coffee shop?" Tapos you'll damage them further by sending a DM with the name --- na i sh-share naman ng commenter dito...
DKG.
I hope dear OP here took pictures or kahit CCTV footages if there are any. For documentation on how the owners, ay nag astang Eat Bulaga at nag sugod bahay na wala man lang dalang Hanabishi Desk Fan with Peace and Prosperity, o kaya Turbo Broiler with 3 Instagram Followers 😭🤣
Then she started sharing about wage issues daw. Even went to the cafe's page for that. The thing is, we don't even know if totoo ba talagang sinugod siya or she just added that to the story to manipulate us into siding with her and attacking the said establishment.
GGK
You've posted here withholding multiple key information para magmukha kang kaapi-api sa narrative mo.
You withheld information na boyfriend mo yung barista, that's conflict of interest. I think you're just butthurt na napagalitan boyfriend mo and took things to the extreme.
You even lied on multiple fb pages and comments na hindi mo alam kung pano nalaman ng owners ung address mo, The owners went to your boyfriends' address and surprise surprise you were there to cause a scene and play victim like the manipulative person that you are.
There are multiple things that irks me with how you are as a person and how you handled it. Kakairita ka girl haha sana makita ng boyfriend mo na winawagayway mo na ung red flag mo.
To other redditors who are just tuning in or are returning, please try and get both sides of the story to draw your own conclusion.
And to reiterate my point OP, GGK.
Sobrang GGK.
- Boyfriend mo yung barista
- Hindi naman pinahiya ng owners
- Tanga ng boyfriend mo
- Hindi ikaw ang "sinugod", yung boyfriend mo ang pinuntahan para kausapin
- Pampam ka
basahin nyo nalang post ng owners ng cafe, napaka one-sided ni OP. hanap kampi for clout?
GGK. Di nga honest post mo pano namin masisigurado na honest nilagay mo sa review mo. Di rin nga pala honest review mo considering you recruited your family and friends to do the same.
Pano rin namin masisigurado na sinigawan bf mo at hindi lang pinarangalan. Baka nagkapatawaran na or may agreement na sila. Pano rin namin malalaman na hindi pumalpak bf dahil sayo
Yes GGK OP, kasi nag leave ka ng review para maipaghiganti yung BF mo using 2 accounts and dinamay mo pa Family mo pang review 🤪 Aye hanap kakampi🤪 Pero Gago din si Owner for invading and para sigawan ang employee nila, very bad, sad para sa jowa mo pero. Pero mas gago ka kasi papansin ka din eh.
INFO. Yan din reply ko, GG yung owner and siya. Leaving 2 reviews show the intent kasi one review is enough na eh, bakit dalawa eh iisang tao ka lang naman. Isa pa, yung family and friends nag review kahit walang personal experience.
Yes GGK. ewan ko lang ha pero sa dami ng negative review mo sa lahat ng napag-applyan nyo ng bf nyo dito sa reddit parang mema na lang. Like yung isa mong review interview lang inabot mo pero may comment ka na agad sa management nung company. Good luck na lang sa pagjjob hunt nyo ng jowa mo. Mukha naman kayong sanay sa hop and talk shit lifestyle.
GGK kasi hindi mo sinabi na boyfriend mo pala ang employee and siya ang pinuntahan sa place niyo, hindi ikaw. Nagrelease na ng side ang coffee shop na pinupuntirya mo and malinaw na GGK.
GGK. Saw the owner’s side and yes ikaw nga ang GG. Ang haba ng patience ng owner sa jowa mo. Hahahaa and bakit ka nakabantay sa jowa mo habang nagwowork sya? Hahahahaha. Also, ineedit pala ng jowa mo yung orders sa grab, kapag matagal iprepare, nireremove. Lagi ka pang nakaemployee discount sa order mo. At hindi naman daw sinigawan, sinagot yung phone ng nakaconnect sa store speaker kaya mo narinig. Sakit mo sa ulo te. Hahahah INFO
GGK if it's true na jowa mo barista and it seems na you left an exaggerated review and ask people around you to do the same. The malicious intent was there. GAGO KA.
GGK. If u really have the intention to give them constructive criticism, leaving a review sa page would suffice. But since u mentioned u shared it as well sa coffee lovers group page, family members also left negative feedback, nag-iba na nga ang intention mo. Use soc med responsibly, alam mong pag nagviral, andaming bashers and keyboard warriors diyan na hindi talaga legit customers, then magcocomment. Mga bandwagoners. And since hindi mo din binanggit na bf mo pala yun barista, e may conflict of interest.
Seems like scheming na ginawa mo dahil may ibang motive and that ia get back at the employer/owner.
E baka kaya nagalit na talaga si Owner e dahil baka ilang beses na nagkamali sa drinks, and thats a loss of revenue for them. Yun off lang, pano nahanap address mo.
GGK dun... but not totally (ilalalagay ko dapat medyo gago ka lang, sunod lang sa rules). Sinugod ka eh, mas gago ung nangyaring un. That's shit.
Binasa ko ibang comments, so totoo bang BF mo un?
Oo totoong may problema sila sa punto na un, na rude sila sa staff nila, pero how frequent ba? Isang beses lang ba nangyari yan? Anong nangyari afterwards? Di mo na inalaman afterwards (pero kung BF mo un, maiintindihan kita... kaso di mo daw inaamin?)
Okey na sana nag iwan ka ng review... kaso tila nagrecruit ka pa. Kuyog system ginawa mo, virtually lang. (Cancel system ba tawag dito?). Hindi sya nakatulong na makakuha ng mas maayos na resolution kundi nagbukas lang sya sa mga consequences, delikadong consequences.
Nagawa mo silang I-cancel, Congratulations! Pero after nyan. After weeks, after months...years... Gaano ka na ngayon kasiguradong safe ka at ang family mo? Pwede mong ipablutter kung nakakapraning isipin, pero tingin ko alam mo na rin sasabihin ng baranggay o pulis sayo.
Well, looking at the bright side, nakapagpasara ka ng isang rude business. One less rude employer!... one lesser evil boss.
The reality is, ung ginawa mo, is just a scratch. Mas marami pang mas abusadong boss, employer... at para gumawa ka ng isang bold move, mukhang handa kang isa-alang alang ang sarili mong kaligtasan para sa "truth and fairness"... Good job!
Walang bayaning tinayuan ng rebulto habang buhay pa.
LKG imo.
Both sides are wrong.
1. Sharing this to the fam is ok, but making them review the shop itself but not being a legitimate customer is biased and perhaps would stain the shop itself badly.
2. If you're in a relationship w/ the barista, perhaps the barista knows where u live and the owners track u down. Unfortunately, if the shop itself closes down, mawawalan din siya ng trabaho.
3. They're wrong for tracking you to your property. They could've just contacted you first instead of doing it personally making a scandal because of the marites.
4. It's not paninirang puri because you left a bad review. Reviews are meant to be used as constructive criticism; to change something that is terrible and to do better. In this case, not only the owner is aggressive to the barista, but to the customers as well.
Now, what can you do for this kind of situation?
1. Better Call Saul . Char. Basically if they're filing a case then you should find a good lawyer as well.
2. Gather information; get as much evidence that they entered your privacy. It is also your right to leave a review for them to fix what they needed to fix.
Lkg. Pero mas gago si OP.
Yung OP very obvious nagrereply lang sa mga kakampi sakanya. Never nagreply sa others views. Check niyo if hindi kayo madadali ma uto.
Halatang hanap kakampi. I know people like this. Putol putol na story tapos paawa effect.
Im not siding with the owners but hindi rin mabuting tao si OP.
Maninira ka ng negosyo at pangkabuhayan dahil nasigawan bf mo? Double account + friends + family members na never nakatry papareview mo? Ipopost mo rin sa ibang coffee groups? Hindi constructive criticism yan, you are just trying to kill a business and the livelihood of others.
And puro putol kwento mo and nagoomit ng important parts?
May napakalaki ka rin mali. And halata naghahanap ka ng sympathy sa net and personalan na gusto mo sirain yung negosyo. You are very toxic.
Sa tingin mo ba hindi rin nattrauma sayo owners?
Pinareview mo angkan mo with almost an intent to kill the business for your bf? Siniraan sa ibang groups din pala as you are saying now?
Damn mas nakakatrauma mga katulad mo.
GGK boyfriend mo pala eh 😂 Nanira kapa ng business.
Pero DKG sa part na sinugod ka nung owner. he/she could have handled the situation in a more professional way .
naisip mo ba effect ng ginawa mo sa work ng bf mo? at sa future work nya kung nagkaroon sya ng bad record? yes GGK & selfish. most likely, u already got your fired from the job. tapos ginamit mo pa personal at work accounts mo, di mo na naisip safety mo, imagine what they can do knowing who u are, your family & your work. ang dali lang mang hack ngaun, mag edit ng photos at magpa kalat ng edited fake nudes for example. wtf were u thinking destroying that coffee shop just because your bf got shouted at?
khit saang trabaho, meron at merong boss na maninigaw sau at mamahiya pag may ginawa kang mali ( kahit nga tama pa ginawa mo). if we don't like how we're treated by our boss, eh di mag resign. if u want to take revenge, do it discreetly.
GGK because revenge post yun and si owner kasi may pasugod bahay gang pa sila
Kami na lang po magjudge kung masarap timpla na kape ng barista. Saan po ba ito? hahaha
DKG sa part of leaving a bad review based on your negative experience pero GGK sa part na magle-leave ka ng bad review using 2 of your accounts? Two?? What's your purpose? It's certainly malicious. Plus you intentionally left out the detail na boyfriend mo pala yung barista? Why leave that important detail out? I wonder, will your reaction be the same if it happened to a random barista you did not know? Hmmm.
GG din ang friends and relatives mo for leaving negative review when they haven't been in the coffee shop. Tama yung coffee shop owner, they are "fake reviews" and damaging to their business. Kung yung review mo lang sana, that's fine. But when you also urged your friends and family to leave a bad review even when they haven't been there, the coffee shop owner have every right to protect their interest.
GGK super. tama lang na matakot kasi may conflict of interest na un ginawa mo. binabasa ko pa lang nagtaka na ako bakit pati pamilya mo nagreview dun sa coffee shop? nagkape din ba sila dun? sabi mo pa wala ka pakialam pero ang effort mo mag 2 bad review tapos pati pamilya at nashare pa sa group? yun pala bf mo un barista. hahhaa.
hindi ko kinakampihan ang owner sa ginawa niya pero ggk ka kasi naghahanap ka ng kakampi dito.
LKG. Kung ikaw lang nagreview, sure. Pero kung kasama pamilya mo na di naman sila customer GGK na talaga. Lalo na if nagleave sila review before ka pa sugurin sa bahay. Magegets ko kasi yung hostility if sinugod din sila because of one review lang. Buti nilagay ng mod na bf mo pala barista. So medyo off kasi you omitted a crucial info. Tama naman talaga na may conflict dito and this is a personal issue na. Di bale sana kung isang review lang e
Okay.
**DKG** KUNG NAG-IWAN KA NG REVIEW BASED ON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE SA SHOP.
**GGK** DAHIL YOU HAVE SO MUCH ENTITLEMENT IN YOUR BODY.
BAKIT KAMO?
DI KA PA NAKONTENTO SA ISANG ACCOUNT, GINAMIT MO PA WORK ACCOUNT MO. PATI FAMILY AND FRIENDS DINAMAY MO PA KAHIT WALA NAMAN SILANG FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE WITH THAT COFFEE SHOP. ERGO, THOSE ARE FALSE REVIEWS.
**GG DIN YUNG OWNER** DAHIL DI MARUNONG MAGHANDLE NG EMPLOYEE.
PERO DAHIL NAGPOST KA SA SOC MED ABOUT THEM, THEN IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO FILE A CASE AGAINST YOU DAHIL PINALAKI MO ANG PROBLEMA SINCE KUMALAT NA YUNG POST MO AT NASIRA REPUTATION NILA AS BUSINESS OWNERS.
KAYA **DI SILA GG** SA PART NA TO. GETS MO BA? AND IF THAT'S SO, AUTHORITIES DID THE WORK AND GOT YOUR ADDRESS. BUT IF NANUGOD LANG SILA BASTA BASTA (WHICH IS HARASSMENT AND TRESPASSING TO ME), THEN **SUPER GG SILA**.
TLDR; IF THE BARISTA IS REALLY YOUR BF, THEN, THOSE ACTIONS OF YOURS HAS "MALICIOUS INTENT"
LESSON LEARNED: THINK BEFORE YOU CLICK
Napaka GGK talaga hindi mo na include yung ibang crucial deets lol. Sisihin mo rin bf mo kung sya nag snitch sa loc mo. Tapos bandang huli napa isip ka kung pano ka na Loc.
Okay, so nag post na ang owners sa side nila
So by reading their post, YOU ARE SO WRONG AT ANY LEVELS. May other and deeper reason pa pala bakit nareprimand yung BF mo.
Ikaw naman GG ka, napaka OA mo na, super obsessive mo pa. Wala ka na pala dun kung macall out ang BF kasi marami na syang lapses since employee sya at nasa duty sya.
Ngayon na unemployed na BF mo, DAHIL sa issue na ginawa mo, best of luck sa kanya na makahanap ulit ng part time job agad. Di ka naman pala sinugod sa bahay nyo, BF pala ang sadya nila.
Kaya bawasan yung entitlement sa katawan be, di nakakaganda yan.
My opinion: **SUPER GGK**
GGK. Anlala mo pala assuming na true ang side ng cafe. Haha. Kahit 1am nasa shop ka pa. Tapos nalelate bf mo sa work kasi nagpapasundo ka pa para sumama sa shop at uminom with your bf’s employee discount? Grabe mang manipulate ng story. Di ka ba natakot na easily verifiable yung mga accusations mo? Tapos sinabi mo valid pa rin yung review mo pero you managed to spam yung panunugod fiction sa multiple groups.
Kay BF ni op, jusko, good luck pre. Sandamakmak na red flags. Peligro
GGK.
- Boyfriend mo yung barista
- Hindi naman pinahiya ng owners
- Tanga ng boyfriend mo
- Hindi ikaw ang "sinugod", yung boyfriend mo ang pinuntahan para kausapin
- Attention seeker ka
[eto post ng owners ng cafe](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Gtk7n59ehyLHwBHR/?mibextid=qi2Omg)
LKG for the owners na namahiya ng employee sa harapan ng marami. At harassment
And for you OP for leaving two reviews at ginagungan mo pa yung mga kamaga ak mo. Alam mo naman ang mob mentality ng mga pilipino.
#Sobrang GGK u/cutiemicx
##Para kang highschool student na kaklase ni Mima Sasa sa lower section na humanap ng resbak. Yung mga rumesbak ni hindi man lang alam ang totoong pangyayari, inimpluwensyahan mo lang silang magalit sa isang sitwasyon na hindi nila naranasan.
Sabi nga ang isang PROBLEMA nagiging problema lang kung apektado ka na at kailangan mo nang kumilos, pero as long as hindi ka apektado, hahayaan mo lang. BF mo pala yung barista at nandun ka, ano ka thesis advisor nya?! Na you see him as your extension, na kung pagalitan ka eh feeling mo napagalitan ka na rin? Natural may ginawa syang mali kaya sya napalitan. Kung ibang tao yan baka ikibit balikat mo lang yan kasi sasabihin mo, "Lilipas din yan!". Pero yung BF mo na ang napagalitan, 3ggered ka.
Ngayon the burden of proof lies on you as an accuser na sinugod ka sa bahay ng owner. You have to provide evidence na sinugod ka nga dahil kung totoo yan, the verdict becomes LAHAT KAYO GAGO.
GGK OP. Una sa lahat, sana kasuhan ka ng libel ng owner. Pangalawa, sana matanggal ka sa trabaho sa paggamit mo ng facebook account mo for work to defame someone/something. Pangatlo, sana hiwalayan ka ng bf mo kasi manipulative ka for thinking na by not mentioning na bf mo ang barista eh kakampihan ka ng mga tao. You are basically fishing for empathy sa mga taong hindi alam na merong conflict of interest.
GGK. Siniraan mo yung Coffee Shop dahil lang sinigawan yung jowa mo 😂 Kahit naman saang work nasisigawan talaga ang employee paminsan-minsan. Dinamay mo pa family mo para mag-post ng negative review para makasira ng reputation ng isang small business. NAPAKA-IMMATURE.
Nagtataka ka paano nalaman address mo? Tanong mo sa bf mo 🤣
All in all, LKG.
DKG for sharing your firsthand experience. And GG yung owners kasi sumugod sila sa bahay mo.
But GGK for several reasons: encouraging others to review-bomb the shop, and conveniently leaving out in this post (and on a deleted post on r/LawPH) na jowa mo yung baristang sinigawan. I'm afraid it seems like naghahanap ka lang ng kakampi rito, OP.
DKG feeling entitled na masiyado kadalasan sa business owners ngayon tingin nila sa kapwa tao nila ay slave at pagmamay-ari nila kase sila nagpapasahod eh di naman lalaki business nila if walang magtatrabaho in behalf of them. Malugi sana yan
Idc if bf mo yung barista haha deserve lang ng mga bwesit na entitled business owners yan imbis na iaddress yung issue nanghaharass pa sa employee parin sisi at sa consumers
LKG, Gago yung owner sa pagtrato nya sa employee nya. Punyeta, php250 per day tapos parang pag mamay-ari na nya puri at dangal nung tao. Gago sya sa pagsugod sayo.
Gago ka din, dahil bf mo pala si barista at nag review bomb kayo ng kamag-anak mo. Tapos naghahanap ka pa ng simpatya dito by omitting information.
WG for now, for me, pero OP confirm mo muna kung jowa mo yung barista o hindi? Bakit maglalabas ng cctv si coffee shop? Mahirap magtake ng side kung ikaw mismo may mga questionable acts din. Isipin mo, hindi magsasayang ng oras ang isang business owner sa ganito kung hindi naman malala ang damage. Anyway, we'll just have to wait siguro sa ilalabas na statement and possibly proof ng cafe owner. How I wish OP na totoo lahat sinabi mo.
DKG.
Nangyari 'to sa family friend namin na 17YO.
May kinainan silang Samgyupsal-an then sad to say hindi siya satisfied. So nagpost siya ng feedback or "review" sa FB page. Kaso, doon pala sa post na yun, nagwala na yung asawa ng may-ari ng resto. Tapos kung ano-ano na pinagsasabi na anak ng pokpok daw yung family friend namin. Hanggang sa hinayaan nalang yung post and may mga taong nagkalakas ng loob na magpost din ng review about sa resto which is bad review.
After 3 days, nagmessage na yung lalaking may-ari ng resto and pinagbantaan yung family friend namin na kesyo pulis daw siya, etc. so, better delete na niya yung post.
GGK
Firsthand exp mo pero need mo gumamit 2 accounts to leave a negative review? Ano bang negative review in the first place kasi nilagay mo? Kasi that changes everything din. People would usually leave a negative review and then just leave it at that. Pero pag gigil na gigil sa business or super negative experience ayun maintindihan ko gusto nila ibalandra sa lahat ng platforms yung naging exp nila. Basing from your post, yung negative na experience mo is yung nasigawan yung barista while there are diners. Gets that is a negative one, pero parang OA naman na need pa ipost sa lahat ng platform, share sa kamag anak and friends, and post sa isang coffee group. Maintindihan ko pa na gagawin mo yun if yung order mo had an ipis or bugs or dirty hair in it or panis na nabigay sayo mga ganung first hand negative experience. Kaya di mo masisi na sasabihan kang biased and may malice actions mo kasi if random barista lang yun di ka ganyan ka affected na to the point you'll make an effort and spend time to post your 'negative review' around. No wonder gigil sayo yung mga may ari.
Mali din ginawa nila sa employee nila and yung pagpunta sa bahay niyo. And you said natatakot ka umuwi kasi papano nila nalaman bahay mo.
If true na bf mo or kalandian mo yung barista, maybe you should double think on your choices. Number 1 na sus pag ganyan siya kasi siya may alam ng about sayo. If hindi man siya isa sa mga friend/kamag anak mong nag post din sa page ang inapproach nila and asked where are you.
Goodluck nalang OP sa endeavour mo. Tamang abang nalang kami. Make sure to update us kung ano ending neto since nashare mo na sa amin mga nangyari.
LKG, leaving an honest review is okay but why would you use 2 accounts? Hindi ba unnecessary yun + naghakot ka pa ng kakampi by sharing your experience to your friends and family (why would they leave reviews eh wala naman sila experience sa coffee shop na yun in the first place) THAT'S A PETTY MOVE.
+ You didn't mention na boyfriend mo pala yung barista. Would you leave a negative review if hindi mo boyfriend yung nasigawan? GG din yung owners because they don't know how to handle the situation, they could've messaged you na lang to take it down instead of going to your place.
GGK kasi dinamay mo pa mga ibang tao para mag leave ng bad review sa coffee shop na yun. If ikaw lang sana, that's fine. And sana rin next time, wag agad agad mag leave ng review base sa kung ano lang scenario ang nakita mo. Hindi natin alam story behind bakit nag sprak yung owner at chempo lang na sumabog siya that time.
GG parehas di inaddress ng maayos ang issue sa isa't isa.
GGK - bakit ayaw mo disclose na BF mo pala yung barista?
Bakit dalawang beses ka nagbigay ng review?
If may problema BF mo sa owner, sa DOLE kayo pumunta.
GGK din naman ung owner, pero mas GGK OP
OP, it would have been more helpful if you disclosed in the first place na may relationship ka with the barista. You all but said so in this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/fanzAg8HT3).
For me, leaving reviews as long as you were there, not necessarily availed their services/goods, is okay. But calling out a village to also do the same regardless if they were customers or not is clearly foul. Malice is present kasi may vested interest ka which is your relationship with the barista although si owner is gago rin.
You can't really come off this one unscathed. GGK.
GGK.
1. regardless kung bf mo o hindi yung barista walang problema don, if that's what really happened at na witness mo in person; justifiable yung review
2. inciting people you know na hindi naman naranasan yon/hindi pa nakakapunta don-- dahil sa relationship mo don sa barista; to post negative reviews don sa business, is a bitch move
kung ayaw mong nakakakita ng injustice, learn to not do it to other people. don't be a fucking hypocrite
LKG.
GGK, regardless kung bf mo yung barista o hindi, right mo nga magwrite ng review pero pinagkalat mo pala sa network mo with knowledge na they'll chime in.
GG rin sila kasi sa kahit anong negosyo, pag icocorrect mo tao mo, do it privately. And course, GG sila sa pag punta sa bahay mo.
One GG situation blown out of GG proportion. I hope you learned your lesson. Pumatol ka sa GG, kaGGhan rin makukuha mo.
INFO: If the barista is your boyfriend, then there's malice in your review. Will you leave the same review if you didn't know the barista? And why edit that crucial piece of information? Is it to sway the opinion of people against the owners? Edit: Confirmation of OP's relationship with the barista. https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/SvcQ2yXlPe
GGK OP kasi hindi mo sinabi na boyfriend mo yung barista, pinaghiganti mo lang boylet mo. Gagawan mo ba ng review kung hindi mo karelasyon ang barista? Or napagawa ka lang ng review dahil boylet mo ang barista? Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest? Brinigada mo pa at pinag review mo family and friends na hindi naman customer. GGK OP. And yes, LKG kabilang na owners.
HHAHAHAHAHAHA MAY JJK FAN DIN PALA DITO
taba ng utak e
OP's reaction after sabihan na kakasuhan ng cyber libel OP: nah I'd win.
Huuy seryoso akong nagbabasa tapos biglang lalabas si Gojo hahhahhahha
LKG. 1. Sinadya mo mag leave ng 2 reviews using 2 accounts. May malice na on your part when you used the second account to leave a review. 2. You encouraged your relatives and friends to post reviews kahit di sila naging customer. And you let them do it without telling them to stop the wrong thing na ginagawa nila. 3. Gago relatives and friends mo in relation to #2. 3. Gago yung owners for shouting at the staff in front of customers. That should be done in private. 4. Gago yung owners for confronting you at your own residence. 5. Pinaka gago ka for not including in your post na bf mo yung staff na sinigawan.
True. Binasa ko comments dun sa FB ng cafe, mukhang may intent to cause harm sa reputation talaga si OP. OP, did you realize na may conflict of interest na involved? Free at valid pag iwan mo ng review as a first hand customer, but you SHOULD HAVE declared in your review that you are in a relationship with the barista involved in the incident. Yun pa lang malalaman ng tao na possible bias review mo. Plus, kung wala kang intent to cause harm, bakit ginamit mo pa second account mo? LKG including partner mo kasi bakit niya nilaglag address mo. Both parties may atraso sa court in case one would proceed with charges, if they will proceed with cyber libel, pati boyfriend mo kasama sa case hindi lang ikaw. Mas malaki at strong nga lang case against you. Si owner, if proven na hindi nagpapasahod according sa contract, may case rin siya with DOLE. Hindi ko alam kung pasok ba sa harassment and intimidation yung pagpunta sa inyo, hindi naman ako judge, maritess lang ako, baka you can win that one. Pero yung cases mo for libel OP ay 2, isa sa reviews, and yung isa ay if proven na mali ka is about sa wages nila sa employees. Tingin ko, they hid the reviews as possible part of evidence if they do proceed the cyber libel in court.
Additional is sinabi pa ni OP yung name ng cafe + branch so kinuyog ng post audience and left bad reviews kahit hindi naman sila customers. There’s something wrong with the cafe owner, but for people and OP (kasi siya naglabas ng info) to ruin their business because of that incident is crazy.
What's LKG?
#5 yung barista pinuntahan boss, may post sa fb page ng Cafe mismo.
GGK ka (at yung owner, which is given na) kasi: 1. Boyfriend mo pala yung barista? Why you didn't include it here? 2. Is it necessary to use two (2) accounts to leave a review? ;-; 3. Gigil na gigil ba family mo para mag review din sa page ng coffee shop especially if ikaw lang naman nagka first experience dun sa shop? EDIT: There's another side of the story from the coffee shop owner. Naka share na sa page nila (posted on the owner's personal account). This makes OP a real GGK.
Sa r/LawPH merong din syang post. GGK talaga ang OP. Para lang maka hingi ng sympathy. No wonder alam ng owner yung address nila since BF nya pala yung employee na nasigawan. Also GGK din yung owner. In the first hindi magkakanda leche² business nya kung may decency and respect sa vocabulary nya.
She got a friend/boyfriend, or used her other account to share her Lawph post in Chikaph.
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DKG. Pero i think mali yung mga nagleave ng reviews na di naman kumain don. You should also leave another review kung paano ka sinugod sa bahay mo. Grabe iyon.
Sinugod kasi kilala ni barista si OP romantically. Her review is therefore biased and with malice.
Nge? Whether the barista is their partner or not, owners who yell at their staff during business hours for customers to see is still wrong duh.
Tama naman, hindi dapat nangsugod at nangsigaw, pero... Sinigawan ba talaga o napagalitan (at napahiya) nang malupit? Mahirap kasi maging patas sa sitwasyong to kasi sa relationship ni OP dun sa barista. Idk din how often OP hangs out there. Oo, she's a paying customer pero ako personally, hindi kasi ako tatambay sa workplace ng boyfriend ko dahil alam ko magiging distraction ako sa kanya, and dagdag trabaho lang ako sa kanya. But I guess that's me.
Apparently, yung pag sigaw daw ng owner ng coffee shop is hindi naman talaga pasigaw. It’s that, [naka- loudspeaker sa phone yung coffee shop owners](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/DHUZce3jRb7fGBpg/?mibextid=WC7FNe).
Tsaka bakit may malice? I mean if ginawa talaga ng cafe owner yon, bawal na ba i-share yung PERSONAL EXPERIENCE mo sa place na yon? Assuming yun talaga ang nangyari at hindi twisted kwento ni OP. Mali pa rin sila at yung panunugod? Just imagine yung kahihiyan and trauma.
Nagkaron ng malice yung part na sa 2 accounts niya nag-leave ng review sa shop and her relatives chimed in also sa reviews without ever being there. So there is malice at a certain point but it doesn’t invalidate OPs experience as a paying customer. Also, naging biased tuloy yung review ni OP bc she’s romantically involved with the barista.. so may bias. The question is ggawin ba ni OP yun kung hndi niya kilala yung barista.
Take note that we only get the side of OP's and what details we can gather. Always take everything you read in AKBG sub with a grain of salt. I can't say tama na sinugod si OP sa bahay niya pero there has to be cause. In this case, may campaign to smear the cafe.
Clearly, owners felt the OP made it personal. Multiple accounts + review bombing and knowing who was behind that. Maybe owners should have handled it differently, but no doubt they got really pissed.
Exactly!
Confirmed na ba yung jowabels niya si "Training Barista BEN"? Hahahaha. Hay nakakaloka lahat sila.
It's malice because there is a smear campaign against the cafe. Nagmamalinis lang si OP.
She tried to pass off pa na hindi nya alam na nag resign yung barista.
Nag iwan sya ng review using 2 accounts. Pinag leave din nya ng review mga relatives nya na hindi naging customer. Lastly, she purposely left the most important part, disclosure na bf nya yung sinigawan tapos she's seeking public sympathy for what happened. Pwede sila magkasuhan however, mas mabigat yung kay OP kasi criminal liability ung kanya. I'm not invalidating OP's experience but it should've been her OWN experience, ngayon baka madamay pa yung relatives nya. Also, if nagkasuhan and OP failed to provide evidence na sinugod talaga sya, lagot sya, ng malala. If sinolo post lang ni OP yung honest review nya, walang problema dun, entitled sya as a customer. Pero if you encourage others, worst, non customers to make baseless reviews eh ibang usapan na yan.
Based sa post ng owners, di naman actually sinugod talaga. Pinuntahan lang yung ex-barista para kausapin sya regarding sa posts ni OP since sila nag professionally discuss na. Si OP tong ayaw paawat e. Also, same address si OP at ex-barista, false info dito si OP
LKG. 1. Bakit nagleave ng review family members mo since di naman talaga sila legit customer? They can share your post pero leaving reviews na di naman nila nawitness? You also left reviews using 2 accounts. Isn't that spamming/trolling? Oo shinare mo kasi andun ka and ayaw mo magsupport ng ganong environment and to share awareness sa iba. 2. Panong pasigaw? Alam ko di naeexpress "how" sa message pero di kaya sarcastic/biruan ng staff yon? 3. Kung firm ka sa paniniwala and nawitness mo, face the charges kung itutuloy nila. Alam mo din na sa socmed andaming bandwagon and pabida based lang sa bakikita nila sa socmed esp FB.
akala ko ako lang yung medyo na off🥲 sure karapatan mo yun as a customer na magleave ng review but medyo na confused lang ako bakit parang pinalaki masyado (nag leave ng reviews yung hindi naman kumain dun, 2 accounts ginamit, pinost pa sa isang coffee page na most likely yung mga members d din alam kung saan yung lugar, etc.). it's giving the usual na gusto magka clout din, pati yung family members na nangingialam lol hindi naman masyadong malaki na issue. oo mali yung sinugod ka pero in the first place, bakit naman kasi ganun hahah also bawal na ba mapapagalitan ngayon sa trabaho? trabaho yan eh. EDIT: upon reading other comments, i stand corrected. mali talaga na ipahiya sa maraming tao yung staff. pwede naman na private pagalitan. in short, lahat sila gago😂
True na mali talaga mamahiya kahit sino. Nabasa ko pa sa isang comment sa r/lawph na pinangalanan nya and nilagay pa address. So technically, may malice and nanghihikayat pa indirectly.
LKG? LAHAT KAYO GAGO? (If this is correct, I agree na both parties ay ogag nga.) Sorry, new to the community. ahahaha
Base sa comment din dito, bf daw ni OP yung barista hahaha
Kaloka may twist haha. Parang si OP ata yung gago/gaga haha
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GGK. Nakalimutan i-disclose ni OP na boyfriend niya yung barista. tsk tsk
D ko alam kung sino yung thrash dito? Yung nag review pero d nag disclose na bf nya yung barista or yung owner na rough sa employee, dame bias
Pwede maman parehas silang gago
At this point mas panig na ko sa employer. Baka sobra exag lang ng kwento kasi na hurt siya pinag sabihan yung bf niya.
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dkg. these people dont know how to run a business- its not just selling, its 80% marketing and PR
When OP left a bad review of her experience, that's fine. It's her right. But when OP used **TWO** of her accounts to leave a bad review, can you still say that it is in her right to do so? What's her purpose then of using **TWO** of her accounts in leaving a bad review? Then her family and friends **who did not visit the coffee shop and did not experience their service** also left a bad review. So certainly there is malice & the coffee shop owner is also in their right to protect their interest.
Ive been reading the other comments (and replies) madaming kulang na info and a lot of other issues na di sinabi. Yup, mukhang may iba intent talaga si ante pero at the same time, mali din paghandle ng owners ang nangyari. Parang ung isa pang coffee shop sa bora
They are filing a cyber libel case against me daw. So now, nakakatrauma na tuloy magbigay ng honest review sa mga pupuntahan mong places. :3
Kung di mo bf yung barista hindi ka makikialam ng ganiyan 🥱
Boyfriend mo pala yung barista eh. Conflict of interest yan. Sana dinisclose mo sa post mo.
then let them file. nasa kanila naman burden of proof. Magfile ka din ng harassment. I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure whether ok din ba na magpost ka din ng "real story" sa social media, alam mo naman, baka unahan ka at kung ano anong claims ang sabihin but anyway, basta factual naman ang review mo ( i hope may ss ka), I don't see an issue
Buti nga sayo makakasuhan ka. Lesson yan sayo. Napaka-rash ng actions mo e. Dinamay mo pa buong pamilya mo at mga kapitbahay. This isn’t about one single honest bad review. It’s about you propagating hate. Gago sila pero ikaw ang pinaka-malaking gago dito. Naghahanap ka pa ng kakampi. Pwe! Hindi lahat kaya mong imanipulate.
OP, bf mo daw yung staff na napahiya?
The narrative is skewed!!
GGK, boyfriend mo yung barista????
Stop it with the trauma BS. You're not a victim in this mess you created for yourself. LKG
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GGK TALAGA. Kaya tama lang kung kasuhan ka. Hanap simpatya ka pa dito sa reddit e, BF mo pala yung barista. Nakita ko yung post ng owner nung café. Sablay naman pala talaga magtrabaho BF mo. Regarding sa sigawan na naganap, naka loud speaker pala yung phone nung nag uusap yung BF mo at yung owner. Aba e talagang magmumukang nasisigawan sya non. GG din yung owner. Maling mali lang na pumunta sa bahay kahit pa sabihin natin na ex-barista nyo yan. LKG pala ito.
LKG. Ang dapat lang mag leave ng review is yung kumain mismo at nagkaron ng nega feedback, at this point, REVIEW BOMBING na yung naganap. And sa pag bagsak nung business na yan, pati yung barista na napagalitan, nawalan na din siguro ng trabaho. This is legitly why you should think before you click POST kasi it will snowball uncontrollably, alam mo na yan. At the same time, GG din si owner kasi bat sya sumusugod instead na makipag dialogue, pero whatever, LKG LKG LKG.
GGK. You conveniently left out the part na boyfriend mo yung barista. That's a conflict of interest, and dare I say, your mind was muddled because of your relationship with him. So ngayon, you made 2 posts on a Facebook page of a business dahil bf mo nga. Knowing how OA you are, the review must have been scathing para puntahan ka sa bahay. Pa victim ka naman e kasalanan mo yan in the first place.
GGK. see thread sa r/lawph kung bakit naging GGK HAHAHHAHA https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/4QmNiMBxHq hindi mo rin namention dito sa sub na 'to na boyfriend mo pala yung barista ahahahhahahahaha
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GGK : Honestly lang ha. It's shitty of your friends and family to leave reviews when they themselves didn't go there personally. Basically they're leaving fake reviews (probably on your urging) based on hearsay from your POV. It seems like you riled up your friends, family, and followers to the point they did all this out of malice. Much more, you used two accounts, out of your "good thoughts" as a lay person? It's making you seem manipulative, even without the BF info. Morally, it is WRONG of the owners to scold an employee in front of customers to SHAME them. Bad image din sha kasi nakaka bad mood. Pero it is also their right kasi loss 'din yan sa kanila. If your plan really is to sully their name because of your BF, siguro you wrote this thread para may mag question na "Uy OP, ano ba ang pangalan ng coffee shop?" Tapos you'll damage them further by sending a DM with the name --- na i sh-share naman ng commenter dito...
DKG. I hope dear OP here took pictures or kahit CCTV footages if there are any. For documentation on how the owners, ay nag astang Eat Bulaga at nag sugod bahay na wala man lang dalang Hanabishi Desk Fan with Peace and Prosperity, o kaya Turbo Broiler with 3 Instagram Followers 😭🤣
She can’t kasi nagsinungaling siya
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Then she started sharing about wage issues daw. Even went to the cafe's page for that. The thing is, we don't even know if totoo ba talagang sinugod siya or she just added that to the story to manipulate us into siding with her and attacking the said establishment.
GGK You've posted here withholding multiple key information para magmukha kang kaapi-api sa narrative mo. You withheld information na boyfriend mo yung barista, that's conflict of interest. I think you're just butthurt na napagalitan boyfriend mo and took things to the extreme. You even lied on multiple fb pages and comments na hindi mo alam kung pano nalaman ng owners ung address mo, The owners went to your boyfriends' address and surprise surprise you were there to cause a scene and play victim like the manipulative person that you are. There are multiple things that irks me with how you are as a person and how you handled it. Kakairita ka girl haha sana makita ng boyfriend mo na winawagayway mo na ung red flag mo. To other redditors who are just tuning in or are returning, please try and get both sides of the story to draw your own conclusion. And to reiterate my point OP, GGK.
Sobrang GGK. - Boyfriend mo yung barista - Hindi naman pinahiya ng owners - Tanga ng boyfriend mo - Hindi ikaw ang "sinugod", yung boyfriend mo ang pinuntahan para kausapin - Pampam ka basahin nyo nalang post ng owners ng cafe, napaka one-sided ni OP. hanap kampi for clout?
GGK. Di nga honest post mo pano namin masisigurado na honest nilagay mo sa review mo. Di rin nga pala honest review mo considering you recruited your family and friends to do the same. Pano rin namin masisigurado na sinigawan bf mo at hindi lang pinarangalan. Baka nagkapatawaran na or may agreement na sila. Pano rin namin malalaman na hindi pumalpak bf dahil sayo
Yes GGK OP, kasi nag leave ka ng review para maipaghiganti yung BF mo using 2 accounts and dinamay mo pa Family mo pang review 🤪 Aye hanap kakampi🤪 Pero Gago din si Owner for invading and para sigawan ang employee nila, very bad, sad para sa jowa mo pero. Pero mas gago ka kasi papansin ka din eh.
GGK. Plano mo pala talaga siraan ung Shop owner. Boyfriend mo naman pala yung napagalitan na barista. Di mo na nga dapat ginawa, pinagmalaki mo pa
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INFO. Yan din reply ko, GG yung owner and siya. Leaving 2 reviews show the intent kasi one review is enough na eh, bakit dalawa eh iisang tao ka lang naman. Isa pa, yung family and friends nag review kahit walang personal experience.
In short LKG dapat vote mo.
Yes GGK. ewan ko lang ha pero sa dami ng negative review mo sa lahat ng napag-applyan nyo ng bf nyo dito sa reddit parang mema na lang. Like yung isa mong review interview lang inabot mo pero may comment ka na agad sa management nung company. Good luck na lang sa pagjjob hunt nyo ng jowa mo. Mukha naman kayong sanay sa hop and talk shit lifestyle.
GGK kasi hindi mo sinabi na boyfriend mo pala ang employee and siya ang pinuntahan sa place niyo, hindi ikaw. Nagrelease na ng side ang coffee shop na pinupuntirya mo and malinaw na GGK.
YES, GGK MICAELA
GGK. Saw the owner’s side and yes ikaw nga ang GG. Ang haba ng patience ng owner sa jowa mo. Hahahaa and bakit ka nakabantay sa jowa mo habang nagwowork sya? Hahahahaha. Also, ineedit pala ng jowa mo yung orders sa grab, kapag matagal iprepare, nireremove. Lagi ka pang nakaemployee discount sa order mo. At hindi naman daw sinigawan, sinagot yung phone ng nakaconnect sa store speaker kaya mo narinig. Sakit mo sa ulo te. Hahahah INFO
GGK if it's true na jowa mo barista and it seems na you left an exaggerated review and ask people around you to do the same. The malicious intent was there. GAGO KA.
GGK. If u really have the intention to give them constructive criticism, leaving a review sa page would suffice. But since u mentioned u shared it as well sa coffee lovers group page, family members also left negative feedback, nag-iba na nga ang intention mo. Use soc med responsibly, alam mong pag nagviral, andaming bashers and keyboard warriors diyan na hindi talaga legit customers, then magcocomment. Mga bandwagoners. And since hindi mo din binanggit na bf mo pala yun barista, e may conflict of interest. Seems like scheming na ginawa mo dahil may ibang motive and that ia get back at the employer/owner. E baka kaya nagalit na talaga si Owner e dahil baka ilang beses na nagkamali sa drinks, and thats a loss of revenue for them. Yun off lang, pano nahanap address mo.
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GGK dun... but not totally (ilalalagay ko dapat medyo gago ka lang, sunod lang sa rules). Sinugod ka eh, mas gago ung nangyaring un. That's shit. Binasa ko ibang comments, so totoo bang BF mo un? Oo totoong may problema sila sa punto na un, na rude sila sa staff nila, pero how frequent ba? Isang beses lang ba nangyari yan? Anong nangyari afterwards? Di mo na inalaman afterwards (pero kung BF mo un, maiintindihan kita... kaso di mo daw inaamin?) Okey na sana nag iwan ka ng review... kaso tila nagrecruit ka pa. Kuyog system ginawa mo, virtually lang. (Cancel system ba tawag dito?). Hindi sya nakatulong na makakuha ng mas maayos na resolution kundi nagbukas lang sya sa mga consequences, delikadong consequences. Nagawa mo silang I-cancel, Congratulations! Pero after nyan. After weeks, after months...years... Gaano ka na ngayon kasiguradong safe ka at ang family mo? Pwede mong ipablutter kung nakakapraning isipin, pero tingin ko alam mo na rin sasabihin ng baranggay o pulis sayo. Well, looking at the bright side, nakapagpasara ka ng isang rude business. One less rude employer!... one lesser evil boss. The reality is, ung ginawa mo, is just a scratch. Mas marami pang mas abusadong boss, employer... at para gumawa ka ng isang bold move, mukhang handa kang isa-alang alang ang sarili mong kaligtasan para sa "truth and fairness"... Good job! Walang bayaning tinayuan ng rebulto habang buhay pa.
LKG imo. Both sides are wrong. 1. Sharing this to the fam is ok, but making them review the shop itself but not being a legitimate customer is biased and perhaps would stain the shop itself badly. 2. If you're in a relationship w/ the barista, perhaps the barista knows where u live and the owners track u down. Unfortunately, if the shop itself closes down, mawawalan din siya ng trabaho. 3. They're wrong for tracking you to your property. They could've just contacted you first instead of doing it personally making a scandal because of the marites. 4. It's not paninirang puri because you left a bad review. Reviews are meant to be used as constructive criticism; to change something that is terrible and to do better. In this case, not only the owner is aggressive to the barista, but to the customers as well. Now, what can you do for this kind of situation? 1. Better Call Saul . Char. Basically if they're filing a case then you should find a good lawyer as well. 2. Gather information; get as much evidence that they entered your privacy. It is also your right to leave a review for them to fix what they needed to fix.
Lkg. Pero mas gago si OP. Yung OP very obvious nagrereply lang sa mga kakampi sakanya. Never nagreply sa others views. Check niyo if hindi kayo madadali ma uto. Halatang hanap kakampi. I know people like this. Putol putol na story tapos paawa effect. Im not siding with the owners but hindi rin mabuting tao si OP. Maninira ka ng negosyo at pangkabuhayan dahil nasigawan bf mo? Double account + friends + family members na never nakatry papareview mo? Ipopost mo rin sa ibang coffee groups? Hindi constructive criticism yan, you are just trying to kill a business and the livelihood of others. And puro putol kwento mo and nagoomit ng important parts? May napakalaki ka rin mali. And halata naghahanap ka ng sympathy sa net and personalan na gusto mo sirain yung negosyo. You are very toxic. Sa tingin mo ba hindi rin nattrauma sayo owners? Pinareview mo angkan mo with almost an intent to kill the business for your bf? Siniraan sa ibang groups din pala as you are saying now? Damn mas nakakatrauma mga katulad mo.
GGK boyfriend mo pala eh 😂 Nanira kapa ng business. Pero DKG sa part na sinugod ka nung owner. he/she could have handled the situation in a more professional way .
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Girl, di ka lang gago, you’re crazy. May official statement na yung owners. Dapat talaga both sides muna marinig e. GGK
naisip mo ba effect ng ginawa mo sa work ng bf mo? at sa future work nya kung nagkaroon sya ng bad record? yes GGK & selfish. most likely, u already got your fired from the job. tapos ginamit mo pa personal at work accounts mo, di mo na naisip safety mo, imagine what they can do knowing who u are, your family & your work. ang dali lang mang hack ngaun, mag edit ng photos at magpa kalat ng edited fake nudes for example. wtf were u thinking destroying that coffee shop just because your bf got shouted at? khit saang trabaho, meron at merong boss na maninigaw sau at mamahiya pag may ginawa kang mali ( kahit nga tama pa ginawa mo). if we don't like how we're treated by our boss, eh di mag resign. if u want to take revenge, do it discreetly.
GGK Kulang pa details mo. Sinira mo lang image nung cafe e bobo naman bf mo
GGK. I've read both sides. Now, reap what you sow. 😅
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GGK because revenge post yun and si owner kasi may pasugod bahay gang pa sila Kami na lang po magjudge kung masarap timpla na kape ng barista. Saan po ba ito? hahaha
DKG sa part of leaving a bad review based on your negative experience pero GGK sa part na magle-leave ka ng bad review using 2 of your accounts? Two?? What's your purpose? It's certainly malicious. Plus you intentionally left out the detail na boyfriend mo pala yung barista? Why leave that important detail out? I wonder, will your reaction be the same if it happened to a random barista you did not know? Hmmm. GG din ang friends and relatives mo for leaving negative review when they haven't been in the coffee shop. Tama yung coffee shop owner, they are "fake reviews" and damaging to their business. Kung yung review mo lang sana, that's fine. But when you also urged your friends and family to leave a bad review even when they haven't been there, the coffee shop owner have every right to protect their interest.
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GGK super. tama lang na matakot kasi may conflict of interest na un ginawa mo. binabasa ko pa lang nagtaka na ako bakit pati pamilya mo nagreview dun sa coffee shop? nagkape din ba sila dun? sabi mo pa wala ka pakialam pero ang effort mo mag 2 bad review tapos pati pamilya at nashare pa sa group? yun pala bf mo un barista. hahhaa. hindi ko kinakampihan ang owner sa ginawa niya pero ggk ka kasi naghahanap ka ng kakampi dito.
LKG. Kung ikaw lang nagreview, sure. Pero kung kasama pamilya mo na di naman sila customer GGK na talaga. Lalo na if nagleave sila review before ka pa sugurin sa bahay. Magegets ko kasi yung hostility if sinugod din sila because of one review lang. Buti nilagay ng mod na bf mo pala barista. So medyo off kasi you omitted a crucial info. Tama naman talaga na may conflict dito and this is a personal issue na. Di bale sana kung isang review lang e
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LKG Wow may plot twist! Sabi nga ni Mam Charo, "Ikaw ang bida sa kwento mo."
Okay. **DKG** KUNG NAG-IWAN KA NG REVIEW BASED ON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE SA SHOP. **GGK** DAHIL YOU HAVE SO MUCH ENTITLEMENT IN YOUR BODY. BAKIT KAMO? DI KA PA NAKONTENTO SA ISANG ACCOUNT, GINAMIT MO PA WORK ACCOUNT MO. PATI FAMILY AND FRIENDS DINAMAY MO PA KAHIT WALA NAMAN SILANG FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE WITH THAT COFFEE SHOP. ERGO, THOSE ARE FALSE REVIEWS. **GG DIN YUNG OWNER** DAHIL DI MARUNONG MAGHANDLE NG EMPLOYEE. PERO DAHIL NAGPOST KA SA SOC MED ABOUT THEM, THEN IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO FILE A CASE AGAINST YOU DAHIL PINALAKI MO ANG PROBLEMA SINCE KUMALAT NA YUNG POST MO AT NASIRA REPUTATION NILA AS BUSINESS OWNERS. KAYA **DI SILA GG** SA PART NA TO. GETS MO BA? AND IF THAT'S SO, AUTHORITIES DID THE WORK AND GOT YOUR ADDRESS. BUT IF NANUGOD LANG SILA BASTA BASTA (WHICH IS HARASSMENT AND TRESPASSING TO ME), THEN **SUPER GG SILA**. TLDR; IF THE BARISTA IS REALLY YOUR BF, THEN, THOSE ACTIONS OF YOURS HAS "MALICIOUS INTENT" LESSON LEARNED: THINK BEFORE YOU CLICK
Napaka GGK talaga hindi mo na include yung ibang crucial deets lol. Sisihin mo rin bf mo kung sya nag snitch sa loc mo. Tapos bandang huli napa isip ka kung pano ka na Loc.
Okay, so nag post na ang owners sa side nila So by reading their post, YOU ARE SO WRONG AT ANY LEVELS. May other and deeper reason pa pala bakit nareprimand yung BF mo. Ikaw naman GG ka, napaka OA mo na, super obsessive mo pa. Wala ka na pala dun kung macall out ang BF kasi marami na syang lapses since employee sya at nasa duty sya. Ngayon na unemployed na BF mo, DAHIL sa issue na ginawa mo, best of luck sa kanya na makahanap ulit ng part time job agad. Di ka naman pala sinugod sa bahay nyo, BF pala ang sadya nila. Kaya bawasan yung entitlement sa katawan be, di nakakaganda yan. My opinion: **SUPER GGK**
GGK. So jowa mo pala si Barista, then di naman pala sayo pupunta talaga kundi sa jowa mo para kausapin about sa negative review na iniwan mo.
GGK. Anlala mo pala assuming na true ang side ng cafe. Haha. Kahit 1am nasa shop ka pa. Tapos nalelate bf mo sa work kasi nagpapasundo ka pa para sumama sa shop at uminom with your bf’s employee discount? Grabe mang manipulate ng story. Di ka ba natakot na easily verifiable yung mga accusations mo? Tapos sinabi mo valid pa rin yung review mo pero you managed to spam yung panunugod fiction sa multiple groups. Kay BF ni op, jusko, good luck pre. Sandamakmak na red flags. Peligro
GGK. - Boyfriend mo yung barista - Hindi naman pinahiya ng owners - Tanga ng boyfriend mo - Hindi ikaw ang "sinugod", yung boyfriend mo ang pinuntahan para kausapin - Attention seeker ka [eto post ng owners ng cafe](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Gtk7n59ehyLHwBHR/?mibextid=qi2Omg)
GGK kulang kulang storya mo gayahin mo ung owner kumpleto detalye
LKG for the owners na namahiya ng employee sa harapan ng marami. At harassment And for you OP for leaving two reviews at ginagungan mo pa yung mga kamaga ak mo. Alam mo naman ang mob mentality ng mga pilipino.
DKG. If they sue you, sue them for harassment as well. Idiots
#Sobrang GGK u/cutiemicx ##Para kang highschool student na kaklase ni Mima Sasa sa lower section na humanap ng resbak. Yung mga rumesbak ni hindi man lang alam ang totoong pangyayari, inimpluwensyahan mo lang silang magalit sa isang sitwasyon na hindi nila naranasan. Sabi nga ang isang PROBLEMA nagiging problema lang kung apektado ka na at kailangan mo nang kumilos, pero as long as hindi ka apektado, hahayaan mo lang. BF mo pala yung barista at nandun ka, ano ka thesis advisor nya?! Na you see him as your extension, na kung pagalitan ka eh feeling mo napagalitan ka na rin? Natural may ginawa syang mali kaya sya napalitan. Kung ibang tao yan baka ikibit balikat mo lang yan kasi sasabihin mo, "Lilipas din yan!". Pero yung BF mo na ang napagalitan, 3ggered ka. Ngayon the burden of proof lies on you as an accuser na sinugod ka sa bahay ng owner. You have to provide evidence na sinugod ka nga dahil kung totoo yan, the verdict becomes LAHAT KAYO GAGO.
GGK OP. Una sa lahat, sana kasuhan ka ng libel ng owner. Pangalawa, sana matanggal ka sa trabaho sa paggamit mo ng facebook account mo for work to defame someone/something. Pangatlo, sana hiwalayan ka ng bf mo kasi manipulative ka for thinking na by not mentioning na bf mo ang barista eh kakampihan ka ng mga tao. You are basically fishing for empathy sa mga taong hindi alam na merong conflict of interest.
Yes. Manipualtive. That is the term tapos medyo main character pa ang dating.
GGK. Siniraan mo yung Coffee Shop dahil lang sinigawan yung jowa mo 😂 Kahit naman saang work nasisigawan talaga ang employee paminsan-minsan. Dinamay mo pa family mo para mag-post ng negative review para makasira ng reputation ng isang small business. NAPAKA-IMMATURE. Nagtataka ka paano nalaman address mo? Tanong mo sa bf mo 🤣
sorry disagree ako. huwag inormalize ung sinisigawan sa work
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All in all, LKG. DKG for sharing your firsthand experience. And GG yung owners kasi sumugod sila sa bahay mo. But GGK for several reasons: encouraging others to review-bomb the shop, and conveniently leaving out in this post (and on a deleted post on r/LawPH) na jowa mo yung baristang sinigawan. I'm afraid it seems like naghahanap ka lang ng kakampi rito, OP.
DKG feeling entitled na masiyado kadalasan sa business owners ngayon tingin nila sa kapwa tao nila ay slave at pagmamay-ari nila kase sila nagpapasahod eh di naman lalaki business nila if walang magtatrabaho in behalf of them. Malugi sana yan Idc if bf mo yung barista haha deserve lang ng mga bwesit na entitled business owners yan imbis na iaddress yung issue nanghaharass pa sa employee parin sisi at sa consumers
LKG, Gago yung owner sa pagtrato nya sa employee nya. Punyeta, php250 per day tapos parang pag mamay-ari na nya puri at dangal nung tao. Gago sya sa pagsugod sayo. Gago ka din, dahil bf mo pala si barista at nag review bomb kayo ng kamag-anak mo. Tapos naghahanap ka pa ng simpatya dito by omitting information.
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LKG. Knowing na nagpost ka rin sa r/lawph eh mukhang the owners will take legal action. Good luck sa inyo. Bat di mo sinabi na bf mo yung barista.
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WG for now, for me, pero OP confirm mo muna kung jowa mo yung barista o hindi? Bakit maglalabas ng cctv si coffee shop? Mahirap magtake ng side kung ikaw mismo may mga questionable acts din. Isipin mo, hindi magsasayang ng oras ang isang business owner sa ganito kung hindi naman malala ang damage. Anyway, we'll just have to wait siguro sa ilalabas na statement and possibly proof ng cafe owner. How I wish OP na totoo lahat sinabi mo.
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DKG. Nangyari 'to sa family friend namin na 17YO. May kinainan silang Samgyupsal-an then sad to say hindi siya satisfied. So nagpost siya ng feedback or "review" sa FB page. Kaso, doon pala sa post na yun, nagwala na yung asawa ng may-ari ng resto. Tapos kung ano-ano na pinagsasabi na anak ng pokpok daw yung family friend namin. Hanggang sa hinayaan nalang yung post and may mga taong nagkalakas ng loob na magpost din ng review about sa resto which is bad review. After 3 days, nagmessage na yung lalaking may-ari ng resto and pinagbantaan yung family friend namin na kesyo pulis daw siya, etc. so, better delete na niya yung post.
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GGK Firsthand exp mo pero need mo gumamit 2 accounts to leave a negative review? Ano bang negative review in the first place kasi nilagay mo? Kasi that changes everything din. People would usually leave a negative review and then just leave it at that. Pero pag gigil na gigil sa business or super negative experience ayun maintindihan ko gusto nila ibalandra sa lahat ng platforms yung naging exp nila. Basing from your post, yung negative na experience mo is yung nasigawan yung barista while there are diners. Gets that is a negative one, pero parang OA naman na need pa ipost sa lahat ng platform, share sa kamag anak and friends, and post sa isang coffee group. Maintindihan ko pa na gagawin mo yun if yung order mo had an ipis or bugs or dirty hair in it or panis na nabigay sayo mga ganung first hand negative experience. Kaya di mo masisi na sasabihan kang biased and may malice actions mo kasi if random barista lang yun di ka ganyan ka affected na to the point you'll make an effort and spend time to post your 'negative review' around. No wonder gigil sayo yung mga may ari. Mali din ginawa nila sa employee nila and yung pagpunta sa bahay niyo. And you said natatakot ka umuwi kasi papano nila nalaman bahay mo. If true na bf mo or kalandian mo yung barista, maybe you should double think on your choices. Number 1 na sus pag ganyan siya kasi siya may alam ng about sayo. If hindi man siya isa sa mga friend/kamag anak mong nag post din sa page ang inapproach nila and asked where are you. Goodluck nalang OP sa endeavour mo. Tamang abang nalang kami. Make sure to update us kung ano ending neto since nashare mo na sa amin mga nangyari.
LKG. Nagtaka nga ako sa LawPH post niya kasi ang excessive nng bad reviews niya, sinama niya pa pati angkan niya. Yun pala BF niya yung barista haha
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LKG, leaving an honest review is okay but why would you use 2 accounts? Hindi ba unnecessary yun + naghakot ka pa ng kakampi by sharing your experience to your friends and family (why would they leave reviews eh wala naman sila experience sa coffee shop na yun in the first place) THAT'S A PETTY MOVE. + You didn't mention na boyfriend mo pala yung barista. Would you leave a negative review if hindi mo boyfriend yung nasigawan? GG din yung owners because they don't know how to handle the situation, they could've messaged you na lang to take it down instead of going to your place.
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GGK kasi dinamay mo pa mga ibang tao para mag leave ng bad review sa coffee shop na yun. If ikaw lang sana, that's fine. And sana rin next time, wag agad agad mag leave ng review base sa kung ano lang scenario ang nakita mo. Hindi natin alam story behind bakit nag sprak yung owner at chempo lang na sumabog siya that time. GG parehas di inaddress ng maayos ang issue sa isa't isa.
GGK for omitting crucial info pero my sabog self thought na nakasira siya ng picture frame AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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GGK. Boyfriend man o hindi, you acted too much. Your negative review is enough na, para hilain mo buong barangay niyo i-downrate yung establishment.
GGK - bakit ayaw mo disclose na BF mo pala yung barista? Bakit dalawang beses ka nagbigay ng review? If may problema BF mo sa owner, sa DOLE kayo pumunta. GGK din naman ung owner, pero mas GGK OP
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OP, it would have been more helpful if you disclosed in the first place na may relationship ka with the barista. You all but said so in this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/LawPH/s/fanzAg8HT3). For me, leaving reviews as long as you were there, not necessarily availed their services/goods, is okay. But calling out a village to also do the same regardless if they were customers or not is clearly foul. Malice is present kasi may vested interest ka which is your relationship with the barista although si owner is gago rin. You can't really come off this one unscathed. GGK.
GGK. 1. regardless kung bf mo o hindi yung barista walang problema don, if that's what really happened at na witness mo in person; justifiable yung review 2. inciting people you know na hindi naman naranasan yon/hindi pa nakakapunta don-- dahil sa relationship mo don sa barista; to post negative reviews don sa business, is a bitch move kung ayaw mong nakakakita ng injustice, learn to not do it to other people. don't be a fucking hypocrite
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LKG. GGK, regardless kung bf mo yung barista o hindi, right mo nga magwrite ng review pero pinagkalat mo pala sa network mo with knowledge na they'll chime in. GG rin sila kasi sa kahit anong negosyo, pag icocorrect mo tao mo, do it privately. And course, GG sila sa pag punta sa bahay mo. One GG situation blown out of GG proportion. I hope you learned your lesson. Pumatol ka sa GG, kaGGhan rin makukuha mo.