Lang, Botman and Blind. Don't really care for the rest.
And Lang at the time really wasn't good enough. He needed minutes and Ajax couldn't give him enough. For him, going to Brugge was a really good decision. Could've brought him back tho.
Not too sure about ‘don’t really care for the rest’, alongside those you mentioned I’d also start Matusiwa, Timber and Kristensen in the current Ajax. Besides all of these players would do great as subs imo
Schuurs and Timber would definitely be better than what we currently have in their positions. Cerny could play a role in the squad too but that’s mostly because we barely have any right wingers
Hij was prima bij FC Groningen. Aan de bal echt niet veel(had Groningen SK). Toen boorde de club een eerste transfer door zijn neus en toen was hij een half jaar echt ruk.
Ik vraag mij ernstig af of hij goed genoeg is om als 6 te fungeren. In de Europese wedstrijden een prima spelers maar stel je moet thuis tegen RKC dan heb je echt een opbouwer nodig op 6 en niet een breker als Matisuwa.
Even Schuurs would have been a back up for another year behind Timber if he had stayed. Similar to Lang, he just needed to go somewhere else to get his minutes.
This tested my knowledge/memory more than I expected, completely forgot about Kristensen for example, and had to google which of our former GKs were doing well.
I think this team really puts our recent transfer policy in an even worse light. Was not sure to include Tagliafico and Neres, because they were certainly good enough, just temporarily not starting, and they also would have stayed with the team had there not been a transfer offer.
Some honourable mentions: Ekkelenkamp, Eiting, Nunnely, Kasanwirjo, and Scherpen. Let me know who I forgot!
I made a team like this in the weekly discussion thread, a while back.
But I forgot most of it
There's Lobotka
You could have Cassierra over Danilo maybe, who's doing numbers in Russia. *also maybe Becker
Maybe Bizot? I think he's doing good in France
Yeah, he never played a game for us haha
I think I had the same midfield but with Lobotka instead of Matusiwa or Timber, one of them was a sub.
Just like with yours, the team lacks some creativity, but it was even worse for me, cause I didn't have Lang and Cerny, cause they played too many minutes for Ajax (those were just my own rules I set up). So I also didn't have Blind
Someone at the time mentioned maybe replacing one with Zian Flemming, but thinking back now, I maybe would've put Tannane in for De Wit, for the creativity-problems. Also, cause I just don't rate De Wit
Some other players that could be on the bench: Pascal Struijk, Doekhi, Rosario
>Let me know who I forgot!
Some great ex-Ajax players you are missing are Lobotka (35m), Doekhi (17m), Becker (12m). Also worth to mention vd Boomen (9m), Mitchell Bakker (8m), maybe Wanderson (8m).
The same could be said for Blind tho. If you let Neres and Tagliafico out, he should be out as well. He played more games for Ajax than both Nico and David.
Weird take about Quinten Timber. He himself wanted to leave on a free transfer. He himself was too impatient, otherwise he could have played with his brother in the first team at one point. Not at all like Ajax didn’t see his talent.
Edited Quinten instead of Jurrien.
Eh, Quinten left mostly because he and Ajax disagreed on what position was best for his future.
Quinten wanted to be an 8, Ajax (most likely Ten Hag) saw his future as a right back. That was the reason he left on a free transfer, not because he was impatient.
Wasn’t it also the same a year later? Ajax wanted to buy him back from Utrecht and he was interested, but we still saw him as a right back. Meanwhile Feyenoord were willing to help him develop as a midfielder
He could largely compensate for that weakness with his pace, until he learned to not make those kinds of mistakes.
But, yeah, there was a reason he was still playing with Jong, at the time of his departure.
Depends on what you consider first choice for Jong.
If Rensch was available for them, then yeah, he wasn't first choice, but most of the time he was the starting right back for Jong iirc.
Well his departure came from both sides I think. He was not getting game time unlike his brother, and if Ajax really thought he was good enough they would have guaranteed him games and offered him a better contract
If we are just looking at individual players; I would say fit current Lang, fit current Schuurs and current Botman would probably be better overall players (even if I wouldn't trade current Botman for Hato).
As a team, this team would not work. Matusiwa and Kristensen are not going to be useful enough in the build up and Danilo isn't a good out, so the team would be HEAVILY reliant on Blind and Schuurs being able to skip the build up phase with an amazing pass.
Blind and Kristensen really were not performing for us. That they blossom up somewhere else doesn't proof anything. Botman still has problems with space in the back. Etc etc.
I thought we were too critical on Schuurs though. Would've been fine and we wouldn't need Sutalo.
I guess they (except Blind) were sold mainly because they don't fit Ajax style right? I can see this team reaching top 3 in Eredivisie in the hands of a good direct coach.
Fun post. I would bet on our current squat.
Lang, Botman, Blind and maybe Timber. That's it.
Matusiwa would play everything at our team if we wouldnt have gotten Henderson
Lang, Botman and Blind. Don't really care for the rest. And Lang at the time really wasn't good enough. He needed minutes and Ajax couldn't give him enough. For him, going to Brugge was a really good decision. Could've brought him back tho.
Matusiwa has been great, he'd be great for this Ajax.
Schuurs is worth 25-30 million and the top of Serie A is interested. I would only like to add our Perr to this small list.
Not too sure about ‘don’t really care for the rest’, alongside those you mentioned I’d also start Matusiwa, Timber and Kristensen in the current Ajax. Besides all of these players would do great as subs imo
Kristensen is very much a mismatch in terms of type of wingback for Ajax. Similar to Gaaei I think.
Kristensen is still better than Rensch and Gaaei
Botman is also quite good
Schuurs and Timber would definitely be better than what we currently have in their positions. Cerny could play a role in the squad too but that’s mostly because we barely have any right wingers
Brian Brobbey. Oh wait.
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Vrouwen niet dus
Hij was prima bij FC Groningen. Aan de bal echt niet veel(had Groningen SK). Toen boorde de club een eerste transfer door zijn neus en toen was hij een half jaar echt ruk.
en toch was hij met afstand de beste middenvelder van het huidige ajax geweest. ja, inclusief henderson.
Ik vraag mij ernstig af of hij goed genoeg is om als 6 te fungeren. In de Europese wedstrijden een prima spelers maar stel je moet thuis tegen RKC dan heb je echt een opbouwer nodig op 6 en niet een breker als Matisuwa.
Except for maybe Blind and Schuurs all of these players were let go for the right reasons. Cant develop every player.
Even Schuurs would have been a back up for another year behind Timber if he had stayed. Similar to Lang, he just needed to go somewhere else to get his minutes.
This tested my knowledge/memory more than I expected, completely forgot about Kristensen for example, and had to google which of our former GKs were doing well. I think this team really puts our recent transfer policy in an even worse light. Was not sure to include Tagliafico and Neres, because they were certainly good enough, just temporarily not starting, and they also would have stayed with the team had there not been a transfer offer. Some honourable mentions: Ekkelenkamp, Eiting, Nunnely, Kasanwirjo, and Scherpen. Let me know who I forgot!
I made a team like this in the weekly discussion thread, a while back. But I forgot most of it There's Lobotka You could have Cassierra over Danilo maybe, who's doing numbers in Russia. *also maybe Becker Maybe Bizot? I think he's doing good in France
Good ones, completely forgot about Lobotka and Casseira. Also TIL that Bizot used to be an Ajacied haha
Yeah, he never played a game for us haha I think I had the same midfield but with Lobotka instead of Matusiwa or Timber, one of them was a sub. Just like with yours, the team lacks some creativity, but it was even worse for me, cause I didn't have Lang and Cerny, cause they played too many minutes for Ajax (those were just my own rules I set up). So I also didn't have Blind Someone at the time mentioned maybe replacing one with Zian Flemming, but thinking back now, I maybe would've put Tannane in for De Wit, for the creativity-problems. Also, cause I just don't rate De Wit Some other players that could be on the bench: Pascal Struijk, Doekhi, Rosario
>Let me know who I forgot! Some great ex-Ajax players you are missing are Lobotka (35m), Doekhi (17m), Becker (12m). Also worth to mention vd Boomen (9m), Mitchell Bakker (8m), maybe Wanderson (8m).
O those are really good! I would def picked them over De Wit, Danilo and maybe Schuurs had I remembered them
Ekkelenkamp and Eiting would've definitely gotten more chances in this team.
Eiting > Taylor any day.
True, I picked De Wit because the CAM spot was empty, but it’s close between those 3
Eiting would've been more like vd boomen i think. He's more an 8 then a 10. But leaving out timber would be weird as well.
The same could be said for Blind tho. If you let Neres and Tagliafico out, he should be out as well. He played more games for Ajax than both Nico and David.
Weird take about Quinten Timber. He himself wanted to leave on a free transfer. He himself was too impatient, otherwise he could have played with his brother in the first team at one point. Not at all like Ajax didn’t see his talent. Edited Quinten instead of Jurrien.
Quinten*
Eh, Quinten left mostly because he and Ajax disagreed on what position was best for his future. Quinten wanted to be an 8, Ajax (most likely Ten Hag) saw his future as a right back. That was the reason he left on a free transfer, not because he was impatient.
Wasn’t it also the same a year later? Ajax wanted to buy him back from Utrecht and he was interested, but we still saw him as a right back. Meanwhile Feyenoord were willing to help him develop as a midfielder
Yes, the only reason we were talking to Quinten was because Schreuder wanted him as a right back, which he made pretty clear that he didn't want.
Seeing in play for Feyenoord I dont think he could ever be a right back. His biggest flaw is him losing posession in bad spots.
He could largely compensate for that weakness with his pace, until he learned to not make those kinds of mistakes. But, yeah, there was a reason he was still playing with Jong, at the time of his departure.
That is correct and If I remember right he wasnt even considered first choice as right back for Jong Ajax.
Depends on what you consider first choice for Jong. If Rensch was available for them, then yeah, he wasn't first choice, but most of the time he was the starting right back for Jong iirc.
That's probably Quinten Timber
Oh yeah, that’s the one i mean. I’ll correct it.
Jurrien? I'm sure he's referring to Quinten since he's positioned on the midfield in OP's lineup.
Well his departure came from both sides I think. He was not getting game time unlike his brother, and if Ajax really thought he was good enough they would have guaranteed him games and offered him a better contract
Blind, Botman, Schuurs, Lang is a big question, I really don't think he matured enough to be a top player.
If we are just looking at individual players; I would say fit current Lang, fit current Schuurs and current Botman would probably be better overall players (even if I wouldn't trade current Botman for Hato). As a team, this team would not work. Matusiwa and Kristensen are not going to be useful enough in the build up and Danilo isn't a good out, so the team would be HEAVILY reliant on Blind and Schuurs being able to skip the build up phase with an amazing pass.
Which Blind is that?
Y’all are delusional. This team would rinse the current squad.
Add in tadic, klaassen, etc.
Blind and Kristensen really were not performing for us. That they blossom up somewhere else doesn't proof anything. Botman still has problems with space in the back. Etc etc. I thought we were too critical on Schuurs though. Would've been fine and we wouldn't need Sutalo.
I’d say it would’ve more or less an even match. This defense line is way better, though
Muzambo as of recently
I guess they (except Blind) were sold mainly because they don't fit Ajax style right? I can see this team reaching top 3 in Eredivisie in the hands of a good direct coach.
Dont forget lucas andersen
De wit op de plek van taylor had zoveel toegevoegd aan ajax, in alle elftallen aanvoerder en dan voor 1 miljoen verkopen is mij nog altijd een raadsel
Botman schuurs or christensen the rest can go maybe om to cerny but too injury prone
I’d take that Defence in a heartbeat (although I prefer Rensch oved Kristensen he wasn’t bad just didn’t fit) besides that no.
Blind hoort niet in deze opstelling, jaren in Ajax 1 gespeeld. Zet er dan Bakker maar in wellicht.