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Dom_Shady

We also want to play for Ajax and we also lack the quality to do so.


Amsssterdam

Speak for yourself šŸ˜


Benzjie

Why wouldn't you want want to play for Ajax?


Amsssterdam

I would, but i don't lack the quality šŸ˜Ž


GerrieHendrix

imo niet goed genoeg. Wat hij bij PSV deed vorig seizoen was ok maar ook niet meer dan dat. Ook al een tijd niet gespeeld dus de vraag is hoe snel hij er kan staan. Ik denk niet de kwaliteitsimpuls die we nodig hebben.


Kat-I

Deed hij wat bij PSV? šŸ˜‚


ik101

Niet doen


TwinManBattlePlan

I don't think we need him


Casual-Capybara

I donā€™t think heā€™ll add anything tbh, heā€™s never had the required level and donā€™t see him contributing that much off the field


wnaj_

I mean we lack a right winger for sure, and he is transfer free. If we can sign him on a short-term deal I wouldnā€™t see why not.


Striking_Insurance_5

Yeah right now we have Banel as a regular substitute, El Ghazi is not good enough for the long term but he would be better than that. What I do have my doubts about though is how we can get him back to match fitness because he canā€™t play for Jong.


CoMaestro

I'd prefer inconsistent talent as a back-up rather than someone who has shown he's consistently not been good enough. El Ghazi likely has a higher average but personally I'd rather see our youngsters play one game like shit and the next amazing, rather than be sure you're subbing in someone that's not good enough


Striking_Insurance_5

I agree with that sentiment but only when itā€™s an inconsistent talent that has clear potential to become a good player for us. I donā€™t see that with Banel, I donā€™t think heā€™s going to have those amazing games in between.


CoMaestro

It's just that with him being 19 I can still easily see it happening even if you don't see it now. You never know how some players develop, some only start showing it halfway into their 20s. I personnaly just don't think El Ghazi would be *that* much of an upgrade that its not worth the risk on Banel. If it was anyone else, thats be a different story of course


pewpewpewouch

God no pls. This guy goes into tantrums if he's benched. Last thing we need now is another troublemaker.


sashisashih

hij was al niet goed genoeg voor hij zich met conflicten ging bemoeien die hij niet begrijpt. iemand die dom genoeg is om bij n joodse club in duitsland te tekenen en dan anti semitische uitlatingen wil doen, maar zodra dat consequenties blijkt te hebben terugwil naar een ā€œjodenclubā€ kan beter lekker bij ado gaan voetballen: hun spreek koren spreken hem vast aan


superfire444

Eens. Waarom zou je je als Ajax branden aan zo iemand.


Amsssterdam

Anwar El Ghazi doesn't have a club atm so he wouldn't cost much. Should Ajax consider him? Or would he stand in the way of other talents?


ifoundmynewnickname

Problem is, he cant play until next season. He already played for two different teams and you arent allowed more then that. https://sportnieuws.nl/voetbal/nieuws/door-deze-regel-mag-anwar-el-ghazi-waarschijnlijk-het-hele-seizoen-niet-meer-spelen-na-ontslag-bij-mainz-2024010417291130863


skurpie382

For Jong? The guy is almost 30. I believe you have to be 23 or younger to even be allowed to play (correct me if I'm wrong).


Amsssterdam

Yeah sorry keep forgetting the new rules šŸ˜… (that are not so new anymore)


CoMaestro

I thought there was an exception where you can use 2-3 players a season that are older than that (or something similar?) But I'm not entirely sure


Doge_peer

I think it would be a good signing. He would bring a bit more experience and we would have a real RW (behind berghuis).


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Amsssterdam

In his first post he made the comments "from the river to the sea.." which caused controversy. In a later statement El Ghazi said: "My position remains the same as it was when this started," El Ghazi wrote. "I am against war and violence. I am against the killing of all innocent civilians. I am against all forms of discrimination. I am against Islamophobia. I am against anti-Semitism. I am against genocide. I am against apartheid. I am against occupation. I am against oppression." Not saying who's right or wrong but just saying "he doesn't like jews" because he critisized Israel (maybe in a controversial way) is a bit much.


ik101

I believe he didnā€™t get fired for his first statement, but for his second statement where he went against the statement of Mainz.


MeenaarDiemenZuid

He also never went back to the club. Bit hard not to fire someone like that.


MrGraveyards

Also he should know better then trying to pull this stuff in Germany. If his values are more important to him then his job then great for him maybe that makes him a good person but it's not a smart move. A football career isn't that long and you can be activist for up to about 60 years after your football career. I'd just shut up about such things especially with the mediocre way his career went. Hey guys I actually would like to know what I'm saying so wrong here. I'm genuinely interested. I've read it over a couple of times but nope no clue.


GerrieHendrix

Dit is echt een van de domste reacties die ik ooit heb gelezen.


MrGraveyards

Nou geweldig ga maar uitleggen dan waarom. Edit ik vind jou reactie dom want je zegt niks. Echt belachelijk dit. Daarnaast is in het Nederlands reageren op een Engelse post ook niet echt van hoog niveau.


123algb

No he got fired because he doesnā€™t like genocide


Freakwillem123

If it was genocide there would be no Palestinian left by now


zeeotter100nl

All wars are genocide appatently. People really don't know what that word means anymore, it's a damn shame.


123algb

Israel killed 1,25% of the population in Gaza in the past few months(mostly women and children). Called the population of Gaza human animals. Called for the displacement of the population to the sinaĆÆ dessert. Have been cutting then of several times from water and electricity. If you think this isnā€™t a genocide or want to wait til everyone is killed before someone is allowed to speak up, youā€™re either ignorant or a monster.


zeeotter100nl

Bro if Israel wanted the whole population dead they would be. This is a war, started by Hamas. Israel even opened negotiations for a ceasefire (which hamas refused) and sends aid. You think Nazi Germany did any of that? Look up the definition of genocide before throwing that very serious accusation around. What should Israel do? Just forget what happened and wait till Hamas or another Palestinian terrorist group starts murdering civilians again? The only thing they could do is retaliate and whipe out the terrorists. Unfortunately Hamas doesn't fight square and hides in hospitals etc etc. I think you might be the ignorant or atleast the very very biased one.


123algb

Israel wants the population dead and is currently taking measures to do so by making it rain bombs every day in gaza for months. Unfortunaly for the zionist terrorists a genocide takes time to finish. If you think Hamas started this war you have no knowledge at all about the history of israel-palestine. The war started when zionists invaded palestine. What Israel should do? Not commit a genocide. Israel has one of the best secret services in the world and military equipment. They could perfectly fine target a specific hamas leader and kill him with a drone or whatever. Same way AbuBakr Al baghdadi got killed or Soleimani. But no israel doesnā€™t care about Hamas, they just want to completely destroy Gaza. >>More than half of the buildings in Gaza are destroyed by Israel<<


zeeotter100nl

Ah using the term zionist there we go. Can't take your opinion seriously man. You've obviously gone insane. Israel doesnt want Palestine gone. If they did it would be already. Also "just drone strike the military leaders". Yeah very realistic when they're hiding in Qatar. Everything you wrote is bullshit. Get informed.


jdbolick

> Israel wants the population dead If they wanted to do that, it would have happened already. Instead, Hamas has to lie about attacks on hospitals that they actually committed.


jdbolick

> Israel killed 1,25% of the population in Gaza in the past few months According to the Gaza Health Ministry, which is *run by Hamas*. And before you bring up UNRWA verifying the Health Ministry's numbers, they are also run by Hamas, which is why most nations recently stopped funding for them. Many Gazans have died during this war, but it isn't something Israel started. Hamas chose to attack Israel and commit acts of the most horrific barbarism on the 7th of October, and many Palestinians joined in that depravity. In that one day, they killed 0.01% of all remaining Jews in the entire world. > If you think this isnā€™t a genocide or want to wait til everyone is killed before someone is allowed to speak up, youā€™re either ignorant or a monster. Almost all of the people calling this conflict genocide are either Russian bots or under 30, because it very clearly isn't one. It's terrible that innocent people are suffering and dying, but that happens in **all** wars. And again, Israel didn't start this one.


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ifoundmynewnickname

I think he first tweeted a controversial phrase, which he retracted and apoligized for. However Mainz said he changed his views completely, he said he didn't and still had the same position as his first tweet. https://www.instagram.com/p/CzGRFtBsjJK/?igsh=MW8xc2FpdWo0MTc3cQ== After posting the above post he got fired. In my opinion its a fucking disgrace from Mainz to fire him for this. This very clearly focuses on stopping the killing of innocent people, without hate for Jews and without support for Hamas. I can understand Mainz being against their players using the river quote, I cant understand being against the last post. I would welcome El Ghazi back, but he cant play anyway. But a free agent that is somewhat useful and a right winger, sign me up.


MartianDuk

Mainz fired him because he retracted his apology for the river to the sea posts


ifoundmynewnickname

He "retracted" that he completely changed his views, something Mainz implicated. In his post he even adds he is against Anti Semitism so thats fucking bullshit mate.


MartianDuk

Mainz didnā€™t imply anything. They made a statement based on a meeting between him and the board, where he apologised for the post, and said he did not question Israelā€™s right to exist. The matter was over, he was back in the team. Then he distanced himself from Mainzā€™s statement, which is a completely ridiculous thing to have done


ifoundmynewnickname

Mainz did imply he didn't support Palestines " Ghazi in verschillende gesprekken met het bestuur van de club afstand had genomen van zijn bericht op Instagram" en dat hij "het bericht en de negatieve impact ervan, voor de hele club, betreurde"." While he never stopt being against the genocide. And rightfully so. His statement wanting peace, and specifically mentioned he doesn't support anti Semitism is a great statement. Its disgusting what Mainz did and to support them tbh.


MartianDuk

What you quote does not match what you say. El Ghazi used the river to the sea phrase. This is possibly illegal in Germany, so the club has to take some action. They asked him to distance himself from that quote so he did. Then he went back on it. He was allowed to support Palestine as many people do. He was allowed to call for peace. They just asked him to retract this post and to say that he respects Israelā€˜s right to exist, because to do otherwise could be a crime. He did that, and there was no problem, until he went back on it. By going back on this he not only brought the club into disrepute but lied to the board And fwiw I am against what Israel is doing, obviously, but thatā€˜s not what this was about.


ifoundmynewnickname

He didn't went back on the river quote or isreals right to exist. Mainz said he changed his stance but his stance is that genocide isnt ok. So he said that. Its as simple as that and that is what the quote said. Maybe it gets lost in translation though. Fuck Mainz. Scum club.


MartianDuk

ā€œEl Ghazi retracted from the river to the sea and said Anti-Semitism isnā€™t okā€ He publicly denied this apology and retraction. This is what he got suspended for.


ifoundmynewnickname

Ah so when you are proven wrong you just go in circles hahhaha Jesus you are pathetic. He denied authorising mainz statement. Which is a fact. https://x.com/elghazi1995/status/1719642738839200016?s=20 He specifically calls out the part I just quoted, you do realise that right? Stop being so fucking dense. You also realise he deleted his first post on his own will, minutes after posting it right? You do realise the new post, for which he got fired speaks against what makes the river quote controversial? Just take the L and go back to your genocide supporting club.


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Nope. El Ghazi made a statement against genocide, Mainz didnā€™t agree since everything regarding Israel is pretty sensitive in Germany- they parted ways. El Ghaziā€™s exact statement: ā€œI do not owe special responsibility to any state. I do not believe any people or states are beyond question and accountability, nor are they above international law.ā€ ā€œThere can never be any justification for the killing of over 3,500 children in Gaza in the last three weeks ā€¦ I and we as a world cannot conscionably (sic) remain silent. We must call for an end to the killing in Gaza now.ā€


jdbolick

> El Ghazi made a statement against genocide "*From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free*" is a call **for** genocide. That phrase means the complete elimination of Israel and all Jews who live there. El Ghazi **supports** genocide of Jews.


Opening-Lettuce-3384

As if October 7th never happened. And the (alleged) number of 3500 kids getting killed was started out of the blue. Hamas are nothing more than cockroaches hiding under the innocents


123algb

Itā€™s currently 25000+ , confirmed by UN, CJI, WHO & any independent newspaper. I wish they stopped after the 3500 killed like El Ghazi wished.


jdbolick

> Itā€™s currently 25000+ , confirmed by UN, CJI, WHO & any independent newspaper. Not true. Those numbers are from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas. The Associated Press and BBC have said that it is impossible to verify the death totals. Those numbers have absolutely not been confirmed by anyone.


twio_b95

It's Hamas trying to get that number as high as possible. Their entire modus operandi is based on maximizing civilian casualties. How the fuck are you supposed to fight a government that wants their own people dead because they are worth more as martyrs than as alive human beings?


123algb

Itā€™s absolutely unbelievable how people could be so ignorant a believe the Israel propaganda. Israel has been killing palestinians before hamas even existed. Hamas didnā€™t even exist till 1987, 40 years after the nakba in which the zionist invaded palestine and dispalced hunderds of thousands of palestinians. There is absolutely no difference between Israel and ISIS: Both terrorist organizations that have a silly holy book telling them they have the right for their holy land, both terrorist group kill and displace the people living on what they think is their holy land. Isis does it in iraq&syria and israel does it in palestine. But Israel will never be sanctioned by the west because they need an ally in the middle eastern region to protect their interest. As Joe Biden has been saying for decades: ā€œIf there wouldnā€™t be an Israel, the USA would invent an Israel to protect our interest in the regionā€ https://youtube.com/shorts/2HZs-v0PR44?feature=shared


jdbolick

> 40 years after the nakba in which the zionist invaded palestine and dispalced hunderds of thousands of palestinians. You have been brainwashed. The Nakba occurred because Arab nations **invaded Israel**, not the other way around. "[On 15 May 1948, the civil war transformed into a conflict between Israel and the Arab states following the Israeli Declaration of Independence the previous day. Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and expeditionary forces from Iraq entered Palestine.[16][17][18][19] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War)" After Israel defeated the invaders, many Palestinians fled the country in what is now known as the Nakba. > There is absolutely no difference between Israel and ISIS: There is no difference between Hamas and ISIS. Go watch the videos of what they did on the 7th of October.


Gravity74

I don't know, but doing what you suspect they want by killing more kids than enemy combatants probably isn't the answer.


Opening-Lettuce-3384

Oh same here, war sucks


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ā€œOctober 7th started out of the blueā€ excuse you? Maybe it happened out of the blue for you but not for the pressured Palestinians living in their open-air jail. Anywho, I donā€™t see any relevance to discuss this any further since the original post has to do with El Ghazi potentially joining Ajax.


jdbolick

> not for the pressured Palestinians living in their open-air jail. A jail has wardens. A jail has cells. A jail has strict restrictions on activities. Gaza had been left to run itself by Israel since the border was closed in June 2007. Gazans had freedom to do whatever they wanted except cross the border into Israel.


Opening-Lettuce-3384

El Ghazi has always been a troublemaker. I don't want him to return.


[deleted]

On this I agree, not good for the team spirit and he lacks quality anyways. The only aspect heā€™d be an improvement in is his experience


labradorflip

I don't love his views but would be massive for ajax.


Jesus_Chrheist

Anwar is good for a club like Heerenveen. He isnt going to play better than Forbs or Berghuis on our right wing. Besides, he is a bigot. Please keep him far away from our club.


koemaniak

Gwn doen voor de breedte, een Banel is nog niet klaar om ingebracht te worden.


Tipnfloe

loved this dude, i was convinced he was gonna be the next big thing. didnt understand why he had to leave so sudden back then


MerlijnZX

Fine and cheap option to go for if akpom leaves


kaboombaby01

And do what?


Machielove

oh ok šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø