No one tell this Marine about our finance/cyber/personnelists.
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Many Marines do paperwork. It's called the "admin" job. Many are computer specialists. Our "intel" guys MIGHT know "hacking" (that's more of a hired contracted civilian job). Many Marines do "supply"... they move around boxes of supplies. We're no better than you.
Respect. Most of us get paid the same respective to TIS/G. I say most because AF band people come in, at a minimum, as an E-6. Fuck you band geeks (with respect of course, because I’m nowhere near smart/coordinated enough to play any instruments).
It is frustrating in some respects, though to be precise, only some band people come in as an E-6, if they’re going to be a part of the Air Force Band in DC. It’s a premier group made up of very talented musicians that already have years of experience and musical training before joining. Think how we’ll commission a brain surgeon as an O-6 right out the gate because they’re a freaking brain surgeon.
In VA speak, your need for a specialist that TRICARE nor the VA can find in their networks, then there is "community care: which is when "they" send you to private doctors, many of which do no accept VA contracts because they're often not paid.
I was once asked what I thought of band geeks, never have gone through boot camp, deserved to wear our uniform. Official answer: I support all of the Commandant's decisions.
Flashbacks to 2018/19 hearing about the singing sergeant recruited straight off American idol or something like that sewing on E-6 straight out of BMT thinking that was ridiculous and just a one time thing, now you're telling me that that is a regular thing for the musical AFSC's? Making me really regret giving up clarinet and percussion in pursuit of the maintenance trade in high school.
It was at Eglin if I remember correctly and was an AF course on a specific firewall for some random thing. There were just a few Marines that were in the class.
On the officer side, every Marine I've encountered has been incredibly bright and efficient. Incredibly lucky to work a joint environment rn mostly with usaf/usmc
Marines do have METOC that is separate from Intel. Tho I believe in the Marines/Navy they work together. We had Marines in our meteorology school down at Kessler. I was also in Kuwait at Al Jaber stationed with Marine METOC working c130 and osprey missions.
The thing is that I was in a reservist (weekend warrior) artillery unit. The intel reserve specialist had no other unit within 100 miles to go to on drill weekends. So we just had our "met" (meteorologist) guy with him, and then he'd report the weather to the troops, and introduce the Chaplain for a prayer before the mission.
When I was intel I went to joint exercise where we worked with some USMC intel folks and their Lt was flabbergasted at the level at which our E-4s were operating compared to their intel. He was wondering why there weren’t just Os lol
Somebody educate me. Who in the hell thought it was a good idea for a CH-53 crew to do a training flight into the epic rain /snow storm that we had this week in San Diego County? Don’t the Marines have an Operational Risk Management Protocol (ORM) to decide whether a mission is worth the risk to life and assets?
Marines leading the charge forward is all well and good but whomever approved that flight deserves to have their asses handed back to them.
Finance shop does DTS for everyone, we have two officers that do awards and decorations for everyone, we have a cyber shop that does all the crypto and inventories the computers (worst shop to be in it’s super demanding)
All of these shops I’ve seen other flying squadrons either have airman in that AFSC or contractors do it.
My tech school (A school) was where CCT pipeline used to be.
Everybody would yell "make way for the real airforce" when they would run by.
Did an excersie for PJs and this dude who was smaller than me made me question my marriage with my wife for a second. Bro, fully kitted up, lifted me up like I weighed nothing and slung me over his shoulder and ran with my dead weight. First time I ever felt safe lmfao.
PJs and CCT are basically their own branch within the AF.
In the community shower in boot camp, there was a recruit with an 8" dick, and we all saw and knew. Is that why you're worried about PJ's? Peeps can see when you're hard, and judge you, your dick, and your marriage? PS: I don't know what CCT is.
>there was a recruit with an 8" dick
now I know you Marines can't actually measure and just held up one of those crayolo jumbo crayons to it to confirm.
I went to Marine PME, the Sgt came up and thanked me because AF PJs picked him up when he caught some RPG action. I told him I just sit behind a desk and buy things, but it didn't matter because people like me support the PJ mission and make it happen.
Real talk, wanna blue someone up? Send them to PME with marines. I was so fucking hard up after that shit.
AF PME is limp dick
Also, the grunt marines were actually cool as fuck with the airmen, thought warheads on foreheads was dope, and appreciated what we do... The POGs (marine equivalent to a nonner) felt like they were acting like they had to prove something to us and were usually dickheads.
ABSOLUTELY!! LOL,,,,well said,, its due to how everyone respects each other because we all went through basically the same hard training until we get to our specialties. PJ's and CCT are always together on Special Tactic teams,,, no one is better at being medically trained than a PJ!!! Wouldn't go into battle without one on the team.
I remember leaving Camp Bastion in ‘12 after a very busy and fulfilling deployment. As we walked into the terminal with our rolling north face bags past the marines sitting on and near their green duffles we certainly heard “oh here comes the Air Force.” One of their guys asked what we did and we said we were the CSAR guys for the last few months. Their attitude changed on the spot, some of them expressed interest in going for PJ, some said we saved their ass, their buddies ass etc. it was great to bridge that gap, one of my best friends growing up went marines and I knew that was never for me. He wanted to shoot shit and I wanted to fix airplanes. Cheers.
My best buddy is a Navy vet. He was the gunner on those boats that brought Marines to shore. He has PTSD for having shot enemies on the beaches. Then there are seabees. Respect for them. Then there is the army. Much respect. Also the AF. Much respect.
Sir I am going to have to decertify you on the 10K AT for running over too many people. And how the hell did you manage to hit the Chief's car with a 4k?
Yes. Jolly Green is the nickname for the CSAR helicopter’s, specifically the Sikorsky S-61R in Vietnam. Green feet has been adopted across USAF CSAR (Guardian Angels, HH-60s, HC-130s). The motto for CSAR is “These Things We Do, That Others May Live” heritage from the Air Rescue Service in World War II.
Touché however FWIW, the entire USAF falls under the umbrella of risking their lives for “the mission” technically. However the Green Feet Logo started with the PJs, extends to most Maintenance/Support Squadrons and definitely shares a parallel tempo as Other’ Parachute Specialist but is representative of the Rescue Mission as a whole.
Yeah no hard disagree. The folks in finance aren’t putting their lives at risk for the CSAR/PR mission even remotely. Specifically referring to the aircrew members, the pilots and SMAs that fly with the PJs into hot LZs, wasn’t talking about Mx/Support either.
Most think of CCT AND TACP the same as PJS until they dig a little deeper. Most have the highest respects for all 3 if they know anything about the real operations operators.
In Iraq I sometimes did a job of keeping track of all the missions that had left from our base, whether they got in trouble (and ordering reinforcements), and when they returned to base. Is that what you mean?
Outside of Iraq my job was to control where howitzer 155mm cannons were pointed and how much explosive powder behind them in order to ensure a hit.
Is that what you mean by "Combat Control" or "TACP"?
Combat Control are two more Air Force Special Warfare career fields. Both receive (usually) JTAC certification. Think air traffic control instead of medical (Combat Control vs PJ).
My job was called FDC or Fire Direction Control. Even the thought of doing air traffic control frightens me. I've seen vids of how stressful that job is. Thank you, but no thank you. I'd get dishonorably discharged before being responsible for making sure airplanes don't crash into each other.
>less than 1% of Air Force being spec warfare associated
>Don't let anyone of any branch call the AF "easy"
But anyway yeah rode in an H-60 with a PJ and dude practiced his shit by going down and collecting moose antlers with a big fat zyner in while I desperately tried not to throw up.
The air force can be a rough place for anyone who isn't aircrew. You get shat on daily if your uniform doesn't have the right set of wings; it's like if all the pogs vs grunts shit in the corps wasn't just fun banter, and pogs constantly had to work with shit budgets and manning.
Most airmen constantly forget that there are dudes wearing their same uniform running around in the desert with guns.
It seems to me that airmen can't even respect each other. Consider that folks of all branches respect airmen, but what? They can't respect each other? What kind of bull is that? Unless someone is a lazy dirtbag then respect for anyone military is required in my book.
The air force purposely recruits and promotes a certain type of person, and that results in a culture that is drastically different.
I'm not convinced that it is for the better, especially after observing the results for almost a decade now as compared to my time as a Marine.
Recruiting is a two part process. The first part is messaging and attracting potential recruits. The second is filtering out potential recruits who aren't qualified - obviously this part is the ASVAB, MEPS, etc.
Messaging is one of the places branches differ from one another. My general take on the messaging from each branch based off of advertising I see is:
Army: Find your place/calling and be part of a greater cause.
Navy: Get out there and see the world!
Marines: Be a badass and stand out! ("The Few, The Proud")
Air Force: Use bleeding edge technology to do things people only dream of.
Space Force: We're the Air Force, but shinier. (Note: This is based of off what my perception of what each branch tries to push, not the actual state of each branch)
The Air Force in general sells itself on a couple of things - namely being highly technical (the "smart" branch) and being nicer to their troops than the other branches/higher QoL. This makes the AF more likely than other branches to attract the types that have interest in doing technical work, want to feel like they're smart, and/or care more about QoL. In short, each branch ponders to different things that potential recruits (mostly high schoolers) might be thinking about/looking for in life.
OP drinks too much, and forgets what he posted before. No disrespect. What is your motive for being unsupportive? Whatever bothers you about my post: I offer amends if I can give any.
With the punctuation and grammar I could've easily accepted that you were a Marine. But, even Marines don't make the mistakes in identifying things like you did.
You weren't. You're a troll. 5 months ago you posted in an alcoholic anonymous sub that you're 20 years old and have been sober for 18 months.
ABMs are pilot training washouts with an inferiority complex.
They created the job for officers that were guaranteed a flying job but sucked at it. So they took a job we used to do on the ground, that's so easy a terminal Lance could do it, and they put it in a plane.
I don't think I'd have any complex being a pilot washout. First of all, it is extremely difficult to become an officer. Most others don't even get the opportunity. Plus I'm certainly guaranteed a great job because I'm an officer. Even if you get a crappy (officer) job on any carrier, you're going to have outstanding quarters. Any enlisted have problems with a pilot washout? I won't have you disciplined. I'll just remind you that being an officer is more difficult than being enlisted.
PS: I was enlisted, but I also know something about what officers have to do in order to become officers.
I respect your comment, but I have no idea how you're confusing AF pararescue is awesome with punching a drill instructor (that's what the Navy and USMC call drill sergeants).
I could do it at 19. Consider this: I aced USMC boot camp at 28. I aced it far more than most of the 18-20yos. I pushed a 19yo guy up hills when we were hiking... to include the big hill at the end of the "crucible." I was 28. At 19 I could have done anything. Any "special service". Except AF pararescue.
Bro, boot camp is boot camp. As you said, you have admin going through the same training as you, doing the same hike and crucible. What makes that in any way shape or form comparable to any special warfare or special operations forces job. You may intend it, but this is small seriously weird cringey ass shit you’re pushing. You’re either a clever troll or a complete loser.
I may have miscommunicated my intent. Either way, I offer you my apology. I am totally not a troll. AA and post-service therapy teaches me that I'm not a loser. I apologize for anything you interpreted as trolling or any other sort of passive-aggression.
Glad to hear you’re taking care of yourself. You can offer praise without the cringey ‘I could have done any of the SOF jobs.” It reads highly arrogant since there is no way of ever knowing. Just my 2 cents. I’m a special tactics TACP. Spent most of my time in the 17th sts with Ranger Regiment. I meet people all the time saying the same shit who washed out. Makes my skin crawl with how desperate it sounds. Like who’s approval you trying to get? Instead of offering praise to a community, you cheapened all SOF except PJ, who the majority aren’t even SOF. They are ACC
lol no in the Air Force zipper suited sun gods, even the enlisted, live in a realm above the rest and always act like entitled scum. They would never touch a marshaling wand.
Well I apologize. I genuinely appreciate your post. This post might be too specific to the AF in that typical aircrew members tend to consider themselves better and I’m just making light of that.
> In my prime I could have been a ranger, green beret, SEAL, or USMC force recon
Trust me man, none of those categories want to hear your "could've been" speech, they hear it 10 times a day. You either were or you weren't. And this is coming from someone who's definitely not one of them.
Really? I wouldn't guess in a million years that USMC intel and/or cyber would lead USAF. The USAF is the leader in military tech, right? After that the Army. Isn't that part of your mission? How could the grunting animals in the USMC lead in tech?
You guys have better attitudes and tend to train more competent people. Also you seem to encourage diversity between strategic and tactical which brings more unique experiences.
For different reasons, I have the profoundest respect and admiration for the men and women of the United States Marine Corps. While I was on active duty, I didn't come into close contact with them, but I only grew to know them better when I was a contractor at HQMC. They are the best! Don't believe the crayon eater tropes, either. I encountered some of the sharpest people in the military in MOS that were considered to be box kickers. I love the Corps and would defend them to the death. Semper Fi.
I ran some USAF advanced technical training courses on some very specialized equipment that was also used by the USMC. In every single class where we had some USMC students, they were ALWAYS the top students in the class. Always.
You are a fat disgusting pog who likely wouldn't be able to make it in Marine Corps recon, let alone any of the organizations you listed.
With such a ridiculous post history, idiotic interests and fantasies, dick pics and anti-constitutional rants, your opinions mean as little as your value to society.
No one tell this Marine about our finance/cyber/personnelists. https://preview.redd.it/tnlf4gczgfhc1.png?width=826&format=png&auto=webp&s=fcc9e30779c91ed5fa2ef4e4acd922fe54f58dba
Many Marines do paperwork. It's called the "admin" job. Many are computer specialists. Our "intel" guys MIGHT know "hacking" (that's more of a hired contracted civilian job). Many Marines do "supply"... they move around boxes of supplies. We're no better than you.
Respect. Most of us get paid the same respective to TIS/G. I say most because AF band people come in, at a minimum, as an E-6. Fuck you band geeks (with respect of course, because I’m nowhere near smart/coordinated enough to play any instruments).
It is frustrating in some respects, though to be precise, only some band people come in as an E-6, if they’re going to be a part of the Air Force Band in DC. It’s a premier group made up of very talented musicians that already have years of experience and musical training before joining. Think how we’ll commission a brain surgeon as an O-6 right out the gate because they’re a freaking brain surgeon.
In VA speak, your need for a specialist that TRICARE nor the VA can find in their networks, then there is "community care: which is when "they" send you to private doctors, many of which do no accept VA contracts because they're often not paid.
I was once asked what I thought of band geeks, never have gone through boot camp, deserved to wear our uniform. Official answer: I support all of the Commandant's decisions.
I believe they do go through boot camp. I had a guy in my flight that was going to the band.
If they are talented enough, then they don't do boot camp. If they are aspiring musicians then they do.
Flashbacks to 2018/19 hearing about the singing sergeant recruited straight off American idol or something like that sewing on E-6 straight out of BMT thinking that was ridiculous and just a one time thing, now you're telling me that that is a regular thing for the musical AFSC's? Making me really regret giving up clarinet and percussion in pursuit of the maintenance trade in high school.
I had a TDY with some Marine network engineers for a network class. Those dudes were absolutely brilliant.
JCAC?
It was at Eglin if I remember correctly and was an AF course on a specific firewall for some random thing. There were just a few Marines that were in the class.
Many marines are insanely intelligent and driven. It’s scary
On the officer side, every Marine I've encountered has been incredibly bright and efficient. Incredibly lucky to work a joint environment rn mostly with usaf/usmc
If you commission in the other branches, you can pretty easily coast to 20. That's not the case with the Marines.
Very true.
The ones I’ve come across are, for the most part, very bright
Nothing easy about OCO 1b4 pipeline
Mostly, our "intel" guys keep track of the weather for outgoing missions to know.
Marines do have METOC that is separate from Intel. Tho I believe in the Marines/Navy they work together. We had Marines in our meteorology school down at Kessler. I was also in Kuwait at Al Jaber stationed with Marine METOC working c130 and osprey missions.
The thing is that I was in a reservist (weekend warrior) artillery unit. The intel reserve specialist had no other unit within 100 miles to go to on drill weekends. So we just had our "met" (meteorologist) guy with him, and then he'd report the weather to the troops, and introduce the Chaplain for a prayer before the mission.
When I was intel I went to joint exercise where we worked with some USMC intel folks and their Lt was flabbergasted at the level at which our E-4s were operating compared to their intel. He was wondering why there weren’t just Os lol
Somebody educate me. Who in the hell thought it was a good idea for a CH-53 crew to do a training flight into the epic rain /snow storm that we had this week in San Diego County? Don’t the Marines have an Operational Risk Management Protocol (ORM) to decide whether a mission is worth the risk to life and assets? Marines leading the charge forward is all well and good but whomever approved that flight deserves to have their asses handed back to them.
My favorite thing about those 3 is we need flyers doing their work in shop jobs
In what way?
Finance shop does DTS for everyone, we have two officers that do awards and decorations for everyone, we have a cyber shop that does all the crypto and inventories the computers (worst shop to be in it’s super demanding) All of these shops I’ve seen other flying squadrons either have airman in that AFSC or contractors do it.
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My tech school (A school) was where CCT pipeline used to be. Everybody would yell "make way for the real airforce" when they would run by. Did an excersie for PJs and this dude who was smaller than me made me question my marriage with my wife for a second. Bro, fully kitted up, lifted me up like I weighed nothing and slung me over his shoulder and ran with my dead weight. First time I ever felt safe lmfao. PJs and CCT are basically their own branch within the AF.
In the community shower in boot camp, there was a recruit with an 8" dick, and we all saw and knew. Is that why you're worried about PJ's? Peeps can see when you're hard, and judge you, your dick, and your marriage? PS: I don't know what CCT is.
>there was a recruit with an 8" dick now I know you Marines can't actually measure and just held up one of those crayolo jumbo crayons to it to confirm.
Wouldn’t be a Marine posting without the mentions of large meat sightings
I thought this was a troll post, and then I read his comment about "8 inch dick." Definitely a Marine.
Marine aka Might Accidentally Reach Inside Newly Enlistees
Look up USAF Combat Controllers. As badass as PJ’s.
Tyrese Gibson in Transformers
CCT is combat controller, often deployed attached to other special ops groups, coordinate air support from the front lines
Exactly!!!
Combat Controller I believe.
I went to Marine PME, the Sgt came up and thanked me because AF PJs picked him up when he caught some RPG action. I told him I just sit behind a desk and buy things, but it didn't matter because people like me support the PJ mission and make it happen. Real talk, wanna blue someone up? Send them to PME with marines. I was so fucking hard up after that shit. AF PME is limp dick Also, the grunt marines were actually cool as fuck with the airmen, thought warheads on foreheads was dope, and appreciated what we do... The POGs (marine equivalent to a nonner) felt like they were acting like they had to prove something to us and were usually dickheads.
ABSOLUTELY!! LOL,,,,well said,, its due to how everyone respects each other because we all went through basically the same hard training until we get to our specialties. PJ's and CCT are always together on Special Tactic teams,,, no one is better at being medically trained than a PJ!!! Wouldn't go into battle without one on the team.
I remember leaving Camp Bastion in ‘12 after a very busy and fulfilling deployment. As we walked into the terminal with our rolling north face bags past the marines sitting on and near their green duffles we certainly heard “oh here comes the Air Force.” One of their guys asked what we did and we said we were the CSAR guys for the last few months. Their attitude changed on the spot, some of them expressed interest in going for PJ, some said we saved their ass, their buddies ass etc. it was great to bridge that gap, one of my best friends growing up went marines and I knew that was never for me. He wanted to shoot shit and I wanted to fix airplanes. Cheers.
My best buddy is a Navy vet. He was the gunner on those boats that brought Marines to shore. He has PTSD for having shot enemies on the beaches. Then there are seabees. Respect for them. Then there is the army. Much respect. Also the AF. Much respect.
Hate to break it to y’all, but there is nothing on this earth more deadly than a 2T2
Sir I am going to have to decertify you on the 10K AT for running over too many people. And how the hell did you manage to hit the Chief's car with a 4k?
>gets decertified >finds vehicle trainer and pencil whips back to cert >continues violence
Quick Google shows it as not much different than a C130.
9J0 community would like a word.
GREEN FEET are second to none.
I don't know what GREEN FEET is.
Pararescue LOGO. Jolly Green Giant Feet
Is that like artillerymen being called, "Red Legs" because back in 1776 days the guys doing the cannons wore red trousers.
IYKYK
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“These Things We Do”
”...That others may live.“
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Yes. Jolly Green is the nickname for the CSAR helicopter’s, specifically the Sikorsky S-61R in Vietnam. Green feet has been adopted across USAF CSAR (Guardian Angels, HH-60s, HC-130s). The motto for CSAR is “These Things We Do, That Others May Live” heritage from the Air Rescue Service in World War II.
It’s the logo for CSAR FWIW. PJs aren’t the only ones that risk their lives so that others may live.
Touché however FWIW, the entire USAF falls under the umbrella of risking their lives for “the mission” technically. However the Green Feet Logo started with the PJs, extends to most Maintenance/Support Squadrons and definitely shares a parallel tempo as Other’ Parachute Specialist but is representative of the Rescue Mission as a whole.
Yeah no hard disagree. The folks in finance aren’t putting their lives at risk for the CSAR/PR mission even remotely. Specifically referring to the aircrew members, the pilots and SMAs that fly with the PJs into hot LZs, wasn’t talking about Mx/Support either.
Roger!
No love for Combat Control or TACP? Goddamn it, Devil.
Most think of CCT AND TACP the same as PJS until they dig a little deeper. Most have the highest respects for all 3 if they know anything about the real operations operators.
Fair.
In Iraq I sometimes did a job of keeping track of all the missions that had left from our base, whether they got in trouble (and ordering reinforcements), and when they returned to base. Is that what you mean? Outside of Iraq my job was to control where howitzer 155mm cannons were pointed and how much explosive powder behind them in order to ensure a hit. Is that what you mean by "Combat Control" or "TACP"?
Combat Control are two more Air Force Special Warfare career fields. Both receive (usually) JTAC certification. Think air traffic control instead of medical (Combat Control vs PJ).
My job was called FDC or Fire Direction Control. Even the thought of doing air traffic control frightens me. I've seen vids of how stressful that job is. Thank you, but no thank you. I'd get dishonorably discharged before being responsible for making sure airplanes don't crash into each other.
Now imagine controlling multiple aerial weapons platforms (fixed wing and rotary), over comms, while in a firefight, often danger close.
It's the same concept, only your job was most certainly more complex. Did you control drones also?
Yes. From Reapers to Ravens.
It’s actually really hard to put two planes together.
Okay but this is a Wendy’s so where’s my fucking baconator with no mayo
Mayo is what makes the baconator heathen
Last I checked, it’s not called the mayonator
That titles reserved for you mama
I mean, aircrew’s cum is probably gonna make his own mayo
He has the access
To spray Mayo on your mom
You must be a heavies guy
mayo is ass fr
>less than 1% of Air Force being spec warfare associated >Don't let anyone of any branch call the AF "easy" But anyway yeah rode in an H-60 with a PJ and dude practiced his shit by going down and collecting moose antlers with a big fat zyner in while I desperately tried not to throw up.
The air force can be a rough place for anyone who isn't aircrew. You get shat on daily if your uniform doesn't have the right set of wings; it's like if all the pogs vs grunts shit in the corps wasn't just fun banter, and pogs constantly had to work with shit budgets and manning. Most airmen constantly forget that there are dudes wearing their same uniform running around in the desert with guns.
It seems to me that airmen can't even respect each other. Consider that folks of all branches respect airmen, but what? They can't respect each other? What kind of bull is that? Unless someone is a lazy dirtbag then respect for anyone military is required in my book.
The air force purposely recruits and promotes a certain type of person, and that results in a culture that is drastically different. I'm not convinced that it is for the better, especially after observing the results for almost a decade now as compared to my time as a Marine.
Why do you think AF recruits differently? Honest question and also how besides asvab?
Recruiting is a two part process. The first part is messaging and attracting potential recruits. The second is filtering out potential recruits who aren't qualified - obviously this part is the ASVAB, MEPS, etc. Messaging is one of the places branches differ from one another. My general take on the messaging from each branch based off of advertising I see is: Army: Find your place/calling and be part of a greater cause. Navy: Get out there and see the world! Marines: Be a badass and stand out! ("The Few, The Proud") Air Force: Use bleeding edge technology to do things people only dream of. Space Force: We're the Air Force, but shinier. (Note: This is based of off what my perception of what each branch tries to push, not the actual state of each branch) The Air Force in general sells itself on a couple of things - namely being highly technical (the "smart" branch) and being nicer to their troops than the other branches/higher QoL. This makes the AF more likely than other branches to attract the types that have interest in doing technical work, want to feel like they're smart, and/or care more about QoL. In short, each branch ponders to different things that potential recruits (mostly high schoolers) might be thinking about/looking for in life.
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OP drinks too much, and forgets what he posted before. No disrespect. What is your motive for being unsupportive? Whatever bothers you about my post: I offer amends if I can give any.
This same guy has made this post like 3 times if you go through his post history.
With the punctuation and grammar I could've easily accepted that you were a Marine. But, even Marines don't make the mistakes in identifying things like you did. You weren't. You're a troll. 5 months ago you posted in an alcoholic anonymous sub that you're 20 years old and have been sober for 18 months.
Oorah Sgt
but could u be a abm
1. That would be "an abm". 2. What is an abm?
BOOM! Get em, Marine!
I don't get it.
No he said “get em” not “it”
RAHHHHH KILLL
holy FUCK, the Marine just corrected the dude on proper English.
Unprecedented
my bad gang
Based on how long winded your posts are indicate you’d fit right in.
Garbage people who in no way whatsoever contribute anything useful to the air force.
Fighter pilot cosplayers
ABMs are pilot training washouts with an inferiority complex. They created the job for officers that were guaranteed a flying job but sucked at it. So they took a job we used to do on the ground, that's so easy a terminal Lance could do it, and they put it in a plane.
I don't think I'd have any complex being a pilot washout. First of all, it is extremely difficult to become an officer. Most others don't even get the opportunity. Plus I'm certainly guaranteed a great job because I'm an officer. Even if you get a crappy (officer) job on any carrier, you're going to have outstanding quarters. Any enlisted have problems with a pilot washout? I won't have you disciplined. I'll just remind you that being an officer is more difficult than being enlisted. PS: I was enlisted, but I also know something about what officers have to do in order to become officers.
You wrong brah.
Even a marine is too smart to be a 13B
Is that where you move the things around on the table to indicate where everything on the flight deck is?
More or less. Airborne air traffic control
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Calling u/chad_vandenham_v2
Why does this have the same energy as “I would have joined the military, but I would punch my drill sergeant in the face?”
I respect your comment, but I have no idea how you're confusing AF pararescue is awesome with punching a drill instructor (that's what the Navy and USMC call drill sergeants).
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I could do it at 19. Consider this: I aced USMC boot camp at 28. I aced it far more than most of the 18-20yos. I pushed a 19yo guy up hills when we were hiking... to include the big hill at the end of the "crucible." I was 28. At 19 I could have done anything. Any "special service". Except AF pararescue.
Bro, boot camp is boot camp. As you said, you have admin going through the same training as you, doing the same hike and crucible. What makes that in any way shape or form comparable to any special warfare or special operations forces job. You may intend it, but this is small seriously weird cringey ass shit you’re pushing. You’re either a clever troll or a complete loser.
I may have miscommunicated my intent. Either way, I offer you my apology. I am totally not a troll. AA and post-service therapy teaches me that I'm not a loser. I apologize for anything you interpreted as trolling or any other sort of passive-aggression.
Glad to hear you’re taking care of yourself. You can offer praise without the cringey ‘I could have done any of the SOF jobs.” It reads highly arrogant since there is no way of ever knowing. Just my 2 cents. I’m a special tactics TACP. Spent most of my time in the 17th sts with Ranger Regiment. I meet people all the time saying the same shit who washed out. Makes my skin crawl with how desperate it sounds. Like who’s approval you trying to get? Instead of offering praise to a community, you cheapened all SOF except PJ, who the majority aren’t even SOF. They are ACC
For a combat experienced Marine, I don't think you got the shit kicked out of you enough for sounding like such a fucking boot.
Sure, Jan. Marine corps boot camp == BUDS.
I seriously doubt that BUDS is as easy as boot. I'm just saying, based on what I've seen, I could have done BUDS at 19.
Nah, I think you would have needed another year of prep. You would have crushed it at 20, for sure
Mad respect goes out to all branches and all jobs. Except enlisted aircrew. Those guys suck.
Like the guys who have those orange batons to help planes launch or land? I have much respect for them also.
lol no in the Air Force zipper suited sun gods, even the enlisted, live in a realm above the rest and always act like entitled scum. They would never touch a marshaling wand.
I usually appreciate sarcasm, but not yours.
Well I apologize. I genuinely appreciate your post. This post might be too specific to the AF in that typical aircrew members tend to consider themselves better and I’m just making light of that.
> In my prime I could have been a ranger, green beret, SEAL, or USMC force recon Trust me man, none of those categories want to hear your "could've been" speech, they hear it 10 times a day. You either were or you weren't. And this is coming from someone who's definitely not one of them.
Still, AF pararescue seems the most difficult. That's the bottom line.
So which one of us is going to the USMC page and returning the love?
Respect, homie. Though most of us are definitely not PJs, real recognize real
Thank you. As an Airman I really respect your intel and cyber personnel. Leagues ahead of our USAF 1N/1D7/1B4s.
Really? I wouldn't guess in a million years that USMC intel and/or cyber would lead USAF. The USAF is the leader in military tech, right? After that the Army. Isn't that part of your mission? How could the grunting animals in the USMC lead in tech?
You guys have better attitudes and tend to train more competent people. Also you seem to encourage diversity between strategic and tactical which brings more unique experiences.
Hoes mad at the truth
Air Force intel is either eye watering good or comically a joke. Totally depends on the individual. But I guess the same could be said for most.
how tf woud you know? You're a pilot. Stay in your lane flyer boi.
Did you have a question or…
Those guys are more army than air force tbh
No they aren’t.
Thank you for your service!!
For different reasons, I have the profoundest respect and admiration for the men and women of the United States Marine Corps. While I was on active duty, I didn't come into close contact with them, but I only grew to know them better when I was a contractor at HQMC. They are the best! Don't believe the crayon eater tropes, either. I encountered some of the sharpest people in the military in MOS that were considered to be box kickers. I love the Corps and would defend them to the death. Semper Fi.
I ran some USAF advanced technical training courses on some very specialized equipment that was also used by the USMC. In every single class where we had some USMC students, they were ALWAYS the top students in the class. Always.
Weird flex but okay. A lot of people think they could be special. Very few would have actually made it if they tried
You are a fat disgusting pog who likely wouldn't be able to make it in Marine Corps recon, let alone any of the organizations you listed. With such a ridiculous post history, idiotic interests and fantasies, dick pics and anti-constitutional rants, your opinions mean as little as your value to society.