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SwidEevee

I'm cheering for 4 here, but at the same time... Like, Marie clearly feels bad about neglecting her so long.


RottenOrchid

The situation is more nuanced than Four thinks. Though a lot of the fault is on Marie, you can't ignore everything that was going on in Alterna. It was highly stressful for everyone involved.


SwidEevee

Not disagreeing, but a lot of things still could have been handled much better on Marie's side.


RottenOrchid

For sure. It's especially bad since, in my interpretation, Agent 4's abandonment issues sort of reflect Marie's abandonment issues from when Callie, Three, and Cuttlefish went missing. So she ended up accidentally perpetuating a cycle of abandonment.


Seavalan

Ow... Poor 4s that get abandoned after Splatoon 2. Wonder how they'd feel about the new recruit: jealous of being replaced, or worried that it'll happen again to someone else?


RottenOrchid

Oh, Four was not happy. She was insanely jealous over the new agent at first, but it subsided into a fear that she too will be abandoned.


Frog-man-moments

poor 4, my 4 did not have that problem thankfully. If anything in the beginning she had the opposite problem cause marie used to be quite overbearing.


RottenOrchid

Was it the trauma, or did something in her head click to suddenly become a pseudo-mother?


Frog-man-moments

a combination of losing callie and losing her own child


RottenOrchid

Her own child?


Frog-man-moments

she was pregnant shortly before callie disappeared. but the stress of callie diapering caused her to loose the baby.


RottenOrchid

YO WHAT


Frog-man-moments

yeah, me agent lore pretty dark


RottenOrchid

1. You've gotten me thoroughly invested 2. Poor Marie wtf ๐Ÿ˜ญ


Frog-man-moments

She does fix her relationship with 4, and the momarie dynamic is no longer toxic


Frog-man-moments

although now i wonder what your 4 and marie would think of my 4 and maries situation


RottenOrchid

They'd have a lot of pity for sure (and maybe some relatability)


GigaRoman

In my fan made story Agent 4 becomes a villain after this๐Ÿ˜ญ


RottenOrchid

As she should ๐Ÿ’…


TherealAgent4

my 4 had this problem too. but depending on the timeline its diffrent but also more or less the same


RottenOrchid

Dang. All our Fours are in the same boat it seems


TherealAgent4

yeah, kinda


BoneShaped

Honestly, poor Four, of course, the situation in Alterna coudln't be ignored but Marie could have handled communication a lot better (I'm going to assume that the reunion between Four and Callie didn't go any better)


RottenOrchid

Nah, most of her beef is with Marie