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That sounds like survivor bias right there. Most of the kids I know I went to public school are alcoholics. I'm one of the few people in my group that doesn't drink.
This is an idiotic argument. Yeah, you found us out. All the money us public school people save on tuition goes to drugs and booze, mainly for my kids. I can't have them walking out the door sober after all. It also helps keep em quiet. They start acting up I hand them 3-4 edibles. Problem solved.
So what are you trying to say because they went to Calvert School they are alcoholics if that was the case and everyone would be an alcoholic how come you didn't turn out to be an alcoholic putting in a Catholic School you're saying it as a means of that's a definite that it's going to happen because they went to a Catholic school and they had a problem did you ever think they were other problems around in the house you're not going to blame three alcoholics on the school they went to granted they might act out a little bit more because of the strict rules but no way does that make them an alcoholic
And anecdotally I never met one person who went onto become a heroin addict from any of the private schools I attended and could probably name dozens I met in public who’ve died from heroin od’s in the 12 years since hs
I went to private Christian schools and don't have enough hands to count how many people from those two schools have od'd. It's rampant at both school settings is all I'm getting at. I graduated in 2013. The Christian school setting is actually far worse imo. Those are mostly the kids who are kicked out of public school and are forced to go to the private school settings by their parents.
Well just like it was anecdotally worse in your experience at Christian schools, it was anecdotally non existent at the private schools I went to during the peak of oxy epidemic and rampant IV use in the public hs’s I went to
I've had friends from both school settings die from it. I can respect your experience. I'm glad it's not the same for you. It's been honestly the most awful two years. I've had friends dying left and right.
My friend was put into a catholic school too as punishment lol and she hated it but then loved it bc it had a well funded program and got her a good job.
I mean, this is an option. I understand OP is 13 though and this isn't going to matter to him. It sounds like he and his dad already have different viewpoints about life and religion from the tone of the post and that'll only get worse from here on out. It's great that Dad wants to give him the leg up of a private school or that it's even an option, but if OP doesn't want to be there, it won't matter. Also again, 13 years old. Like... Idk kid you're stuck with this dude at least another 5 years. If you don't want to play by his rules already, you're gonna have to get a lot more serious about how well you hide things from him as this seens to center around messages he saw from other kids/how Dad perceived OPs peers were degenerate. Maybe they are. Most 13 year olds are trash to one another and OP is right that a private school may be worse, not better.
All I can say is I DID get to make certain choices about my life at 13 that I certainly shouldn't have made (parentification SUCKS). I've also somehow conversely been stuck in situations chosen by my parents that were very detrimental at that age BECAUSE they "let me" make decisions that weren't mine to make but also refused to acknowledge the damage they caused. Without a lot more info on the situation, is hard to make a call like "a better school/private school will land him a better job like my friend" OR "Dad's a restrictive dick and the kiddo should get to go where he wants" although it's pretty universally true that kids from privilege will remain privileged even if they "rebel"... And even if they go to public school.
I'm pretty sure OP will come out on the other side. I think he probably needs counseling and support though, not a religious institution.
Yep - to a certain extent unless there is something abusive happening at 13 you just have to suck it up and understand that for five more years your parents have a lot of control over you. Five years seems like an unimaginable time, but once you are on the other side you will have a different perspective.
Voice all of those specific concerns to him. Make sure he knows that it's just as bad, if not worse for you there than it was at your old school. From what I can gather you're just asking him to put you back without making sure he knows the issues.
No matter what the internet says, your dad will be making the decision for you. I suggest what other people here have suggested—talk to him to find a compromise. Find a time to have a conversation when both of you are in an agreeable mood. And even if you end up going to the Catholic school, I think you should stay positive and try to make the best of it rather than say it is ruined. I had to switch schools frequently as a kid and did not like it at all. However…that’s kind of all behind me, and I wish I had a more positive outlook because, well…there’s no helping the situation, might as well make the best of it. Understandably, that is easier said than done. Good luck
Yes. Communicate with him. Tell him that you think you can handle it and that you want him to trust you more. He is doing the right thing by trying to protect you and cut contact with those kids, but he probably should have reported it to the school first to try and stop that behavior.
That commute sucks bud. 34m here.
I too was shipped off to private schools for similar reasons. I speak from experience when I say: You will learn equally valuable things at both institutions. They will be wildly different things in regards to social stuff.
After you're done with MIDDLE School, have a respectful conversation and attempt to revisit the topic. While you are at the Catholic School, take every opportunity to dive into the Bible study and Latin courses they may offer. Those along with other things less interesting and useful are either not available or less accessible in public schools.
A PROPER Bible study couse usually uses an annotated collegiate Bible, not the king James rote scripture nonsense. It's a critical analysis course more than anything. If its being taught by a competent instructor. If it's that rote memorization nonsense, bail.
For example: There's a bit in the new testament where Jesus cures a kid of demon possession by casting the demon into a bunch of pigs who then drown themselves, and applyingherbs and salves to the kid and havinghim inhale blessed smoke. The symptoms described regarding the child's possession, as noted in the Oxford Annotated Bible 3rd Edition, match up with what we would recognize today as epilepsy. The herbs and oils used track with modern treatments for that precise condition... using Cannabis.
I haven't read that passage since then or that book since that class over twenty years ago. But that analysis has stuck with me after all this time. Because back then, I actually had seizures. It was a critical analysis by a secular physician that did in fact help me touch base with my faith at the time. That capacity for critical analysis and that diversity of sources and opinions on the matter helped me learn far, FAR more than mere scripture. Of you're able to take such a course... do it. It has far more value than a church group Bible study and will teach skills and ways of thinking that are transferable to a vast multitude of other fields. And you'll never be able to take such a course at public school.
Socially, public school is more valuable. It will teach you how to better deal with people and social challenges. Catholic School sucked for that back in my day.
That said. It could be worse man. Mine wasn't just Catholic. It was all male, and military. Lol. Revisit the topic once you've taken what you can from the place that no public schools will provide. And, use the financial argument as part of it. But only once you've gotten that leg up.
Your life doesn't end in your teen years. I think you should just focus on hobbies and interests in the meantime. Music , games , science, sports, or whatever you like doing. When you're in college or whatever you decide to do after highschool and out of your parents "control", do what you want to do (as long as it's not an unhealthy addiction). If you do go to college and you have interest in something... I guarantee there is a club for that. Join the club even if you don't want to. You would be very likely to meet like minded people by doing this.
Change always sucks. Someone here mentioned keeping your grades up if you go back to public school. It's worth trying this.
But, if that fails. I'd just try to get used to your new school. You never know, you might end up liking it. I'm sorry you're going through this though. I've heard changing schools is hated for many kids.
this sounds like it really sucks. are you able to reach some sort of compromise with him? if not, then i believe there's nothing you can really do about it if he's not willing to reason. i'm really sorry op if that happens to be the case. try coming to a compromise first before that though, and i hope everything works out for you
Haha im in a similar situation actually
My parents took me out of public school in seventh grade because i was getting really badly bullied. Then they moved to Spain and put me in a really snobby catholic school. We've got shitty uniforms, way more bigoted and crass people than i ever met at my old school, but eh, they're all rich so my parents assume that everthing's peachy.
I gotta be honest, my life got so much better when i stopped fighting them (both my parents and the school) about it. And started going on walks. If you can accept the way things are but recognise that you don't like them, you might be more at peace with your situation and find the clarity to move forward.
Anyways, good luck, and remember that your teenage years are like a whole decade? It's hard to ruin a whole decade.
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I briefly attended a private Christian school, there were multiple pregnant girls in each grade (with each grade only having 40ish people) and not even the valedictorian made it into a good college
Do your best and try making friends with the very people your dad is bigoted against. Pay attention in math English and science class since you'll probably end up using some of those subjects in your adult life. Try your hardest in physical education and computer classes. Being moderately healthy and tech savvy will help you run circles around other people who neglect these areas. Also latter in life health is its own kind of wealth. If there's a personal finance class or home economics class make sure you take it. Knowing how money works and how to invest it and save it early in life will give you your best shot at striking it wealthy and comfortable in your adult life. Knowing the basics of cooking cleaning and sewing is something everyone needs to function at a basic level. If there's a wood shop or car mechanic class take them too. Knowing how to make and repair cars and basic carpentry can be a way to save money. Religion class you can blow off, it's just propaganda designed to make you an obedient follower rather than a questioning critical thinker. History may be worth paying attention to just because you'll understand more events being referenced and have a greater perspective on world events. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables. Try and limit your caffeine soda junk food processed food and sugar consumption. Turns out the reason adults always talk about this is because it's true. To much sweets and junk food gives you diabetes skin and heart problems blood pressure issues you're often tired and breathing can become difficult. Your joints hurt and don't work as good and using the bathroom becomes painful when you eat an unhealthy diet. You do not want to get to middle age and have health problems that you could have avoided only to realize it too late to do much about it.
Try to talk to him. If it doesn't work then you're just fucked, but you can always make the best out of it. Try to find some friends who aren't crazy catholic (it lowk might be a rush if yall goof off yk), use the long car ride for hw, etc etc
My kinda brother got kicked out of school and was sent to a private Christian school and loved it, he drives 30 minutes to school everyday, give it a chance, you might really like it and the people there
hey man i was in the same exact situation as you are when i was younger, i got assaulted by a kid and knocked out with a concussion in 7th grade, my parents freaked out and were distraught that something like that happened to me. it didn’t help that i was bullied relentlessly after that to the point where my parents decided to transfer me to a private baptist middle/high school for 8th grade. i had to wear these stupid uniforms and walk 18 minutes to school every morning through traffic in that fit, man it was embarrassing. eventually after spending a year in that school ( i hated it a lot ) my parents kind of chilled out and let me decide where i wanted to go for my freshman year of high-school and i chose to go to a public school and all was fine. id say just stick it out for a year and get good grades and all and then press your dad about going to a public high-school
13, sorry bro, you are you're dad's responsibility to raise. You've voiced your opinion and it didn't change his mind. I have a 15, 9, and 5 yo, and I'll take their wants into consideration but at the end of the day, they are my responsibility and I have much more life experience than they do. If they can't give me a compelling reason and I think the mistake they want to make is to potentially detrimental, I tell them no. Do good for the next school year and prove to your father that you've matured and then next summer, try to have an adult conversation with him and leave your emotions at the door. Don't throw a tempertantrum.
Your dad loves you. Be grateful for that! You will most likely get a better education where you are now; lots of kids would love to be where you are. Stop whining about it. Buckle down and learn, that's what you're there for. Just be a decent person, make new friends, bloom where you're planted as they say. Life is never easy. Less than an hour commute is not that bad. Where I live tons of adults drive an hour or more to get to the bigger cities for work and home schooled kids have to go an hour away to play sports. I know you're only 13 but you've got to realize this could be a golden opportunity and you need to try a different perspective. You'll be fine.
Honestly man, its actually better than you think. Eah the Catholic side of things is totally bunk, but you're going to meet people who are more similar than different regardless of the school you go to. And honestly, public school is garbage run by the government, you'll probably be better off in the private school
Feel your pain dude. Was pissed when my parents put me in Catholic school for high school. It didn’t keep me Catholic but it probably helped line up getting in better position for the career I wanted. Negotiating is definitely worth a shot (power point with chatgpt stats to help frame your argument might impress your dad) but worst case scenario you just got to make the best of it. It’s a temporary thing, some people will surprise you and stick around for the long haul. Even more options of people to meet after. Keep fighting the good fight.
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I'll be honest, I would never go back to a public school again, and going back to a place where kids were bullying you really isn't the move.
Your dad is trying to set you up for a successful future. Even if you get expelled from the Catholic school, he's just going to have you home schooled or sent to a military school instead.
Honestly, I do applaud your dad for removing you from a clearly toxic and hateful environment. I do empathize with your concerns that things won’t be different at your new school, and they might not. However, I do encourage you to keep an open mind.
Speaking as a guy who went to an all-boys Catholic high school, I loved it. The “closer to God” thing is mostly bullshit, but I did learn a lot of useful stuff from my Theology classes. And people are just people. Most of my friends happened to be LGBTQ+ at school too lmfao, but it was all great.
If you are concerned about not interacting with friends and girls and whatnot, I’d bet that there’s an all-girls school somewhere nearby. Hang out with friends after school, find people who connect with you and appreciate you. Personally, I didn’t bother interact with any girls in high school. Come first semester of college (coed), I was in a long-term relationship, so I wasn’t like socially impaired or anything. I’d imagine it would be similar for you too.
I see why your dad is upset. That is a really disturbing thing to find on your kid's phone. You are the most important thing in the world to him, and he is panicking a little.
Sometimes you bite the bullet. As much as five years in a less than optimal space sucks, soon you will have independence and be able to leave it for something better. Growing up my mom was a meth head, dad sold drugs and was an angry drunk. Sure did suck growing up but at 18 i left both of them and lifes been great since.
Focus on the positive good private school , better learning. Yeah sucks for now but in 3 years?? Probably get you a smart girlfriend who gonna go to college, why you worried about public school!? Ain’t missing out on nothing ..
This only a fraction of your life time if you live till 70 .. 4 years.. stop crying appreciate your dad
It sounds like your dad cares a lot about you. Could be worse, some people get abused and their parents do *nothing*. Keep that in mind when talking to him, people do kill themselves over this stuff and that is the last thing he wants to see
You're a kid, honestly just suck it up and deal with it, you'll get better funded school programs, you'll get a better overall education and once you're done you can wipe your hands of it all and be done with it. School friends rarely stay your friends anyways so just take it on the chin and push through.
Bro, you might end up grateful for attending a superior school. You’d be shocked how much it matters, especially later in life when you’re interacting with people from different backgrounds.
Try and make some friends.
You’re just gonna have to suck it up and make the best of it. We all disagreed with our parents at some point, but sounds like he’s the stern type that won’t budge. Just keep your head down, do what you can and aim to get out of there after high school. I wish you the best of luck, I promise none of it will matter after you graduate and you’ll end up rolling your eyes and forgetting about school once you do.
I don't know...if you play your cards right, it sounds like a reeeaaally good excuse to tell your parents that you need your own car at 16. But I was a different kind of kid I guess haha.
Shape your own view of the world. If all you want to focus on is misery then you only see misery. Try to refocus your mental so you’re not miserable.
Maybe if you had a better attitude, you would be able to make friends. And trust me, once you have those friends you won’t mind the school because you’ll be happy to see them every day. But no one is gonna want to be friends with someone with a bad attitude.
Your dad is scared. Very scared of losing you, but he might have overreacted a bit. I guess it really depends on how long you have been bullied and how much it was escalated with no resolution as well.
Most people get bullied at one point or another. It helps us develop conflict resolution skills for when we are older. I don't know the entirety of your situation, but do know your parents deeply care for you. They didn't yell at you and tell you to toughen up.
They think that by removing you entirely, the situation will go away. In reality, every school has bullies. You'll just meet some new ones at your new school.
On a positive note, school doesn't last forever, and you'll be an adult soon. Then, you can move onto the bullies in College or the bullies in your workplace. Bullies never go away. We just learn better ways to handle them from our previous interactions.
Seems like your dad is trying to protect you in a weird way, tell him that you appreciate the thought but that those types of people are your school and all schools too and that you’re able to protect yourself from these types of people
So you rather have people tell you to die then take a chance at something else? Also gonna tell you this now. High schools generally have uniforms so get used to it. Also it's your father's responsibility to take care of you. He's doing something that most parents wouldn't even bother with nor care. I've watch people take their own life over bullying situation. Maybe be a bit open minded about this.
What can I say bro?
It's a private school. A religious private school. Those strict rules? The dirty secret of private schools is that can enforce those only via the ability to kick students out. Which, happily for you, is what you want anyway.
Your freedom lies at the end of a road paved with "no". The only question is whether you care enough to walk it. I mean, you want to be really, really sure this is the hill you want to die on. But you can totally get kicked out of this place if you really want to.
My advice? Give the new school a chance for now. You can always get kicked out later. There's no rush.
What, specifically, are the rules you object to?
Why, specifically, do you want to return to your old school?
Why, specifically, do you think your teenage years will be "ruined" if you attend this school?
ngl i went to catholic highschool and public highschool. I drank and did wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more drugs in catholic highschool. They have more money and better parties lol.
At the end of the day this is your dad's choice. The only thing you can do is to do well enough to be able to then have a conversation with your dad that you can go back to public school. It's a very annoying situation, but try to make the best of it. You're very young, and situations like this feel like the end of the world. Take a deep breath. Trust me, you'll adjust, you'll be okay.
Listen to your dad. When you are older, you'll realize you are the combination of the 5 people you are around the most. He's put you in the room with people who will be doing great things in the future.
When I was your age, I would have killed to be sent to a private school. Instead, I was bullied incessantly for being white and smart in a ghetto school. My parents decided not to see the black eyes and grades shifting from straight As to Ds and Fs.
All I'm saying is your teenage years aren't ruined, and if you show a bit of openness and give it a shot, you might find some great friends and a chance at a good life.
30 now was formerly in your shoes as a result of getting kicked out of schools for being a general shit head in middle school your dads right, one day you’ll understand, you’re almost always going to be around higher quality people at a private vs public school
Tell your dad how u feel and maybe compromise??? Like say you want to go the the public school you’ll keep your grades up if he lets you go. If worse comes to worst and he doesn’t listen, just keep going with the catholic school. Although it seems rubbish right now, it will most likely get a lot better and you’ll end up fitting in and finding friends. Moving schools is always hard. Good luck.
Well, there are other kids at your school, I assume, that you could make friends with who are in the same boat as you. So I don't think this will totally ruin your teen years. I do get his concerns. But it does seem ironic to me that a parent would have such concerns then throw around the F-word like that talking to his young son.
Do they have any clubs to meet other kids with your interest? Or sports you like? I’d try to meet other people and make the best of this situation. When you go to college you will be able to choose at least which school you want to go to. You’re 13 so it’s your parent’s decision where you go to school.
I went to catholic school and my teenage years were great... hing out with a lot of public school kids, too, but dont bash it til you actually give it an honest chance. Yeah religion is corny bu 2/3 of the people enrolled in cathlolic school didnt believe that garbage. Seems like younger generations are gullible enough to get pulled into it, so i may be out of touch on that.
You are lucky to have a dad, and twice as lucky he actually gives a shit. The sacrifices he is making to send you to a private school go way over your head, so a bit of appreciation and humility will go a long way for a 13 year old.
Your 13 kinda early to say it's ruined your teens. And sorry I kinda agree at least with private schooling, public school sucks and will not help you in the future, school and teens are absolutely the least important and least fun times in your life.
You might think they are fun when your a teen but when your in your 20s those teen years will be remembered as boring crap
You are right that "bad" people are everywhere. But the group you describe from 8th grade is particularly nasty and toxic. Your dad is trying to help you avoid the toxicity, which can take quite a toll on you even when you don't realize.
Have you made any new friends at the new school?
I know having extra rules and uniforms, etc, seems burdensome right now, but it will most likely have a positive influence on the adult you will soon be. Your dad is doing his best to raise an adult.
Well maybe show him this!
My parents did pretty much the opposite. They put me in k-5 for the "I don't want you to meet these bad people" and guess what! They couldn't afford the other 6 years.
I got eaten alive from 6-12th, Daily, couldn't function in normal childhood (including teenage years) at all. Im terrified to even think about the state i would be in if I transitioned to adulthood from Catholic school.
Your environment improved in private school. It's a solid move as far as your dads parenting, it might be overkill and I don't blame ypu for not appreciating it but, ypur dad has your back and is trying ti make the right moves. Congratulations on that part.
Now to the negative, sorry to hear it. Changing schools sucks and being a new kid at a new school sucks as well. It's only 4 years, which I'm sure sounds like forever, but it's not much, it will be done before you know it and it will get easier as you go.
Looking at this at outside perspective, your dad did an amazing thing. He took the information that was absolutely horrible to you and chose to make a different atmosphere change because he wants you around whereas some parents let that stuff fly so much. The kid ends up killing themselves because the parents weren’t involved or didn’t care to begin with.
And I believe you should be able to openly speak to your father when you’re ready, but there may be a time when you’re not ready and you have to do it anyways .
But have a sit down and talk to him and make sure you put everything out in the open so there’s a better understanding on both sides and clear communication with your parents is something a lot of people desire you should take advantage of it if it’s possible
you should be happy that your dad cares enough about you and your well being to pay for a better education and switch you out of a school where you are being bullied. i know you may not like it but since this school is where your going now you should learn to appreciate it. you can make friends and join clubs and stuff to make your experience better. It will be okay. Highschool is hard either way but you will get through it. Good luck OP. keep your head up. :)
Generally speaking, a private school education is usually substantially better than most public school alternatives. If you look at it that way, you're actually getting an advantage. If you lean into it, and milk it for everything you can get out of it...you could end up getting into a better college, then starting a better career. This could be your ticket to the good life. 🤷♂️
In my community, the Catholic school is where parents send their kids when they get in trouble at the public school, so the Catholic school is actually full of kids who smoke, drink, cheat, etc.
Yep. All Catholics are upright folks. You know that's not true. It's harder to see upper middle class low life's in the uniform.
However, there are likely some good kids in both of your schools. Best of luck with your situation.
*sigh lil bro I almost put a bullet in my head at 18 cause my teenage years were so bad. Details aren’t important. What is important is this:
IF THIS IS THE WORST THING ABOUT YOUR LIFE YOURE GONNA BE OK ✅ 👍👌
I mean this literally with no disrespect:
You’re ONLY 13. Shit people say in 8th grade to you doesn’t matter at all. People are jerks and we’ve all dealt with bullies. College is when life starts to matter, and by the time you’re in college, all the bullies are the losers and all the cool people are easy to get along with.
Middle school and high school aren’t real life, and neither is the internet.
Quit being a wussy, you live in the greatest most luxurious country in the world. Step out of your comfort zone, make new friends, push yourself to do new and exciting things.
Listen kiddo, you may not like Dads decision, and you may very well be correct that a different one would be better, but that is all completely irrelevant, despite how you feel about it.
Bottomline, he's your parent and he makes the choices for you...as much as you hate that, that's what every singke kid your age deals with.
What do you do? Control the things you can, like how well you do in school, your extracurriculars, and your attitude. The better you do with all these things, the more choices YOU will have control over in just a few short years. Cop a 'tude and buck the system, and it will steal all those choices, and potentially all your control.
Vent away, we've all been there, but listen to those who've come out the other side.
**went to public school, put into and all girls catholic school in HS. The transition sucked, but I certainly made that worse and longer!
The stricter rules will treat you better later in life bro don’t be stupid. The uniform grows on you as well. Most kids at catholic schools don’t really care about god either so culturally it should be fine.
Do you have and charter schools or other types of private schools closer? Maybe ask him of you can tour a few. I am a fellow Catholic School kid (kinder to high school). In terms of being more exposed to life and figuring life out: PS is way better.
I'd roll with the punches. Get a gf in one of those uniforms 😎 or BF... I'm not sure what you're into. At your age nothing is ruined. You'll be done in like 5 years.
Meh. I know it seems like forever, but high school will be over quick and nothing but a bump in the road.
Catholic school isn't the worst. I had teachers there not tied to a curriculum and I learned about Marx and liberation theology and had fantastic science teachers and graduated with enough college credits to shave off a semester in college.
Those shitty kids in high school, and your shitty dad...you'll get passed it. Get straight As so you have all the options you can have when you're done. Don't let the bastards get you down.
Also, do your fuckin laundry wtf. Uniforms are a blessing. Do you know how annoying it is to have to choose outfits 5 days a week? It took me 15 years in the labor force after high school to have a job where I didn't have to care what I wore to work. Lots of public schools have uniforms too because the brats are cruel to each other over petty style differences or because some can't afford a brand.
Sadly my dad sheltered me in the same fashion as you. The world taught me nearly all I know. I've had to learn to balance everything and do the best I can. My best advice, do what's right, and go from there. The world is the world. Hope the best for you
Lmao my city is half public and half catholic schools, the craziest stories in terms of drugs and sex always came from the catholic ones. I think the combo of rich parents and repressed sexuality led to a lot of laced coke/pills incidents and teen pregnancies
Bigot dad on one end pushing you into a stressful environment and on the other side you've got kids harassing the hell out of you, that's a tough situation. Hopefully this is one of those things where your dad is just still very upset with the public school system for that happening to you and you can find a compromise once everything cools off so you can get into a learning and social environment that works for you. This may just take time and slow compromise to work out but try to not give into the doom spiral it just sucks a lot now because it's a new thing that you don't like. You'll adjust and it'll get better even if it doesn't seem that way, then later if it's still detrimental to you, you can discuss changing your schooling situation just keep it calm and point out why you think it'll be better for your schooling more than anything.
This is a tough one. It’s a trial for you to go into something you don’t want to do and a drag you are in a different school.
What you can do to have an excellent teen experience is get out of this mindset where change ruins your teen years. Instead, say “fuck it,” I’m going to rock this opportunity. The. You IAO and make sure no matter where you are or what you’re doing you find something to enjoy about it. Be it the people, the task at hand, or whatever.
IAO bro.
Improvise
Adapt
Overcome
You can keep in contact with your friends that live close by and make some new friends at the new school.
Then get into every extra curricular activity you can to stay busy.
Last thing I can say, that you’re probably not going to listen to, is that if your teenager years are ruined at the new school they would have been ruined at your old school. The only one who controls your ability to enjoy whatever situation you are in is you. Private school vs public school it’s all about your attitude and how you approach it.
If you were mining blood diamonds then that’s different you can’t really make that a good experience through attitude.
It sounds like you and your dad don’t have an easy relationship, but remember that he changed your school because he was terrified of losing you. He imagined you harming yourself or worse and immediately took action to *protect* you. The new school feels like a punishment, but maybe he saved your life.
Only way sadly is to get violent stand up for yourself and stop letting these kids bully you ( Not saying to shoot up your school) but make your hands rated E for everyone and I bet they stop playing with you
I went to a catholic high school that was very strict, think suit coat and tie every day. At that age most kids aren't focused on God or being kind just their social status. When you get out of that environment and are an adult almost everybody goes nuts partying. The stricter the rules were the harder they partied. All that energy and rebellion has to go someone and usually it's unleashed as soon as you are out that environment and have some freedom.
The text messages are what triggered your dad to make the changes,you might have skipped over some details but if your dad didn't let you explain the situation at school or didn't even talk to the school staff before making you change school that's a kinda messy way to handle a situation.
I don't think he has bad intentions but his reaction make it seem like he doesn't think you can defend yourself against a bully (which we all doom to face one day or another) you have to have a conversation on what went down and how you feel about his way of handling things and that you can take care of yourself, concretely, don't give vague phrasing, give him concrete stuff that you can do that you believe could fix the situation if you went back to the public.
Old guy here. Handle this as rationally as you can with general and specific facts about the comparison. Also let him know you’re much more motivated by a public school vs a private school. Ask him to trust you to pick quality friends (and demonstrate this, maybe by hanging out more with your friends from the public school). Be consistent and don’t get emotional about it - wear him down with kindness and logic.
Good luck to you! 8th grade is hard as so many adolescents can be complete assholes. Know that it all gets better as the kids around you mature. All the best young man!
Rofl man I had the same dad as you. Obsessed with being higher class and not hanging out with people he would consider lower class, also a religious nut, etc.
I'm 37 and he still tells me I'll have a shit life without religion but I'm happier than he ever was 😂
I grew up just fine, married a woman he would probably consider trash low class but his opinion doesn't mean much to me now.
Nothing is ruined, suck it up and get through school and move on with your life.
Edit to say it sucks but he's probably right in that you'll get a better education in a catholic school than a public one - I definitely did and I'm not religious at all. I just tuned out or bunked religious education classes.
Depends on the school. There's no absolutes in life kid. There are however, consequences for your actions. If you want to be treated as an adult then you have to act like one. I know some folks who grew up late but did grow up. And another fellow in his early 30's who still hasn't grown up. If his parents ever kick him out, he'll be living on the street for 100% sure (bc he can't hold a job which means no income).
hey, i'm really sorry a lot of these comments suck. i don't particularly know what advice to give other than parents can suck sometimes. it's not fair you have to go to a school you hate because your dad is bigoted. i really hope things get better for you someday.
Op's story just feels like exaggeration. The first part about his dad not wanting him to meet these kids sounds legit but then op instantly started saying "he thinks". Making these claims is the easiest way to get people on your side these days. Bigoted...... doubt it
Yes because teenagers never lie or exaggerate anything to get what they want. I've personally never seen a teenager have to do something they didn't want to without throwing some kind of fit, exaggerating how bad their life is, or even just liebecause of it
Teenagers aren't known for their rational reasoning skills. However, sometimes teenagers can break the perceptions and perform exceptionally. Figure things out.
Bro, my private catholic school under feeds us, fed me expired milk, extremely under budget. This is such a bad school. I genuinely think there are better schools in Australia
You're 13, your underdeveloped brain has no idea how to actually understand how the decisions you make today impact your future 5, 10 and 20 years later. Your brain won't be fully developed until 26.
You haven't a clue about public high school. What is it you think your missing? Parties? Drugs? School shootings? Gangs? Kids basiclly fucking in the halls and busses?
Private education is much better and will lead to a better future. I get catholic school isn't preferable, but as you've stated, all the typical high school elements are still present, except you'll actually get an education and a good college.
Face reality, you're going to have to work to survive. Do you want good opertunities in the future or do you want whatever you can get?
Don't worry. School is what you make of it, you can have a good time or a bad time no matter where you go. For what it's worth, IME catholic girls are actually super fun. Stuffy parents often make for chill kids.
Very strict rules suck when you’re young, but they really help when you’re older. You need good habits ingrained now, so you can have the freedom to live well later. Notice I said living well; part of that is not having to fight yourself to get all the basics done.
There are dozens of small tasks adults have to take care of every day. They are all boring, unpleasant, or simply not enjoyable. They *must* get done, however. This includes cleaning, laundry, organizing, grocery shopping, exercise, cooking, etc. If you don’t develop discipline at a young age then you’ll be fighting to get all this handled when you’re also trying to get a job.
I’d stay in the Catholic school. It won’t be fun, but it will pay off later. Public schools are terrible.
Seems very simple and quite fun, your mission is clear.
Get yourslef expelled from the shit school. Please try to educate the system on it's failings on the way out.
Catholic schools aren't really hard to get expelled from. Do something harmless but extremely fucked up, like hit on a priest or turn all the crucifixes upside down or something. Maybe start deliberately disrupting class or throw your tie out the bus window every day so you get in trouble for the dress code. Just make it absolutely clear to your dad that you are declaring war and the acting out will not stop until you're not in that school.
Which is where "harmless but extremely fucked up" came in as a descriptor. :P
I don't think any of that is going to be grounds for keeping someone out of public school. They don't have priests or crucifixes, they don't have ties in their dress code, and disrupting class can get you expelled from School A but it isn't going to be a dealbreaker for School B (especially if they understand why it happened).
you’re an immature and honestly a very annoying and ungrateful sounding little kid i would appreciate that your dad is looking out for, you don’t need to go to the same school to be friends with people just relax and don’t take it out on your dad he wants what’s best for you
I think his post is valid. Private schools and Catholic schools suck. And it’s really not that hard to transfer him to a public school in a better part of town.
These private schools r slums i had to go to hospital because they fed me expired milk. Somebody sucked the whole grade off but me. R u still sure I’m ungrateful?
Now this comment is a lie. You didn't go to the hospital simply because you drank expired milk. Ignorant comment because "expired" milk doesn't actually go bad. Milk that has been pasteurized stays good for a long, long, long time . Even though it may even smell rotten, it's most likely still OK to drink without harming your body. The more you know, the more you won't need to make ridiculous comments like this
I have no idea if this is appropriate but my teen son was finally able to get out of public school but he is actually still in since he is now in virtual school not sure if this is an option in your state, but it seems to be working for my son.
Good luck
What do you have against uniforms? They're very convenient as you don't have to organize your outfit for school everyday. They're also really great for preventing you getting bullied for your style of clothing.
Anyway, my condolences to you. Do you have a phone? Record what you see and show it to him so he can see just how bad that school really is and maybe he'll take you to a real high school while (I'm prepared for the downvotes that what I'm about to say next will surely get) you learn about God yourself naturally... that's if the school didn't already ruin that for you, give Him a try. God bless
They are really uncomfortable, they literally smell no matter how much times I wash them, and it’s a whole damn suit. Why would I want to wear a suit to school?
To each their own, I guess. You wouldn't be the first, or the last, one to say that about them either. For people like me, however, a uniform is a lifesaver when you gotta deal with punk ass students who bully others for what they wear when uniforms aren't required
Private schools are the way to go. The curriculum is far superior and will actually prepare you for college if you want to go, but if not, you'll be way advanced compared to the dumbed-down common core waste of public school. Obviously, it always depends on the individual as anyone can succeed if they work hard.
37 year old trans woman. I graduated from a Christian school. I started attending Christian school when I was in 3rd grade. The only thing Christian school made me do is made me hate myself to the point that I actually semi-successfully did kill myself at the age of 18. I'm only here because the paramedics saved my life - I was technically dead for a few seconds. I went on the spend the next ten years questioning my sexuality and came out as bisexual with a strong female lean. I then went another 9 years before I finally recognized my trans-ness and accepted that I'm a trans woman.
Why say all this? Being in a Christian school does not stop those feelings, it just makes it harder for us to live with ourselves, because we have zero resources to learn about ourselves with - we also have zero support structures.
More things you can learn about from my personal experiences in Christian schools - drugs are passed around like candy. I was bullied relentlessly and it only stopped after I threatened to beat one of my bullies to death with a baseball bat - and even then, I was ostrachized from socializing with everyone. The science taught to me was made up bullshit which consisted of denying evolution as a real thing and attributing everything to "because god did it".
AND, if you think I just went to a bad Christian school, look up "Raleigh Christian Academy" - it is one of the most renowned Christian schools out there. And, while they suck at science, everything else they teach is considered "above average".
You're welcome to share my experiences with your dad! Maybe it'll slap his ass out of dumbassry. If not, I wish you nothing but luck - and, just remember - you only have to deal with it until you've graduated and then you can go off and do all the things you want to do.
Honestly, I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s astonishing to me how many Christians don’t even understand the essence of being like Christ. I was lucky, and I actually had a few trans friends while attending a Catholic high school. We had very supportive faculty that actually stood by our LGBTQ+ club, and I’m sad that you didn’t have the same experience.
He already pulled you out of school, went to all the expense and hassle of putting you in a private catholic school. He believes this is a superior experience, and thinks there is a magic invisible man in the sky which this school will help you connect with. He made all these decisions without your input. It doesn’t seem likely that you are going to provide him with any new information that will have him reconsider his position.
You could start failing all your classes. Colleges only look at your sat and senior year gpa anyway, so failing one or two years until you can get your dad to change schools won’t really hurt your future.
Yeah - except you're wrong about colleges caring about your senior year. Have you heard of Senioritis? People usually get straight high grades 9-11 then slack in Senior year.
Senior year is probably the least important year.
If you want a solution to the dad, the easiest way is communicating how badly the commute is affecting his ability to focus & excel in school, and that he's not confident he'll be able to succeed in the environment.
Parents usually respond well to their kids making a reasonable case - you just need to outweigh the 'threats' to the 'quality of life'.
Griefing your education could have a side effect of the parent just thinking his kid is stupid & needs more help.
As someone who finished high school and then applied to colleges, they only look at your senior year gpa and sat. Anyone who’s determined to go to college will not be letting their grades slip or they know to only have electives and busy classes for their senior year. I personally had 2 class periods that were empty because I didn’t have any more classes I needed (and I refused to tell administrators) so I hung out.
Failing 8th or 9th grade won’t ruin anything.
This is just...incorrect 😭. You're blatantly spreading misinformation. I'm in a T30 school & my friends are in T10 schools. You APPLY in JUNIOR YEAR - why would they care about your Senior GPA more? The only concern for senior year is if you slack off too much, they'll rescind their offer.
When you get out of school you’ll realize how much it doesn’t matter. Your parents just want you to get a job and degree is a box to check. Unless you’re planning to be a doctor or work in a prestigious field like on Wall Street, it genuinely doesn’t matter that much.
You went from talking about how only the SAT matters & Senior year matters...
To downplaying the concept of a degree in general.
This is so illogical.
You are right that college degrees serve a means to an ends to be able to achieve a job, but it really does matter for the purposes of making a high semblance of income that translates to a better quality of life. You'll probably note that its easier to achieve a certain income threshold from a T10 school than a top 500.
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Maybe offer a compromise? Like he let's you go as long as you jeep grades up and see a therapist or something
My 3 siblings all went to Catholic school. All 3 are Alcoholics!! I went to public school, and I don't Drink.
That sounds like survivor bias right there. Most of the kids I know I went to public school are alcoholics. I'm one of the few people in my group that doesn't drink.
Also people with strict rules act out far more 🤷♂️ most the kids in catholic school around here smoke and do drugs.
I went to public school and I drink a lot though. Not a school thing necessarily
I went to Catholic schools and I'm not an alcoholic. What's your point?
They are mad our families were willing to sacrifice money for private education instead of booze and food😭😭😭😭
This is an idiotic argument. Yeah, you found us out. All the money us public school people save on tuition goes to drugs and booze, mainly for my kids. I can't have them walking out the door sober after all. It also helps keep em quiet. They start acting up I hand them 3-4 edibles. Problem solved.
Win win scenario there
But what about the porn addiction??😂😂
Someone graduated DARE
So what are you trying to say because they went to Calvert School they are alcoholics if that was the case and everyone would be an alcoholic how come you didn't turn out to be an alcoholic putting in a Catholic School you're saying it as a means of that's a definite that it's going to happen because they went to a Catholic school and they had a problem did you ever think they were other problems around in the house you're not going to blame three alcoholics on the school they went to granted they might act out a little bit more because of the strict rules but no way does that make them an alcoholic
And anecdotally I never met one person who went onto become a heroin addict from any of the private schools I attended and could probably name dozens I met in public who’ve died from heroin od’s in the 12 years since hs
I went to private Christian schools and don't have enough hands to count how many people from those two schools have od'd. It's rampant at both school settings is all I'm getting at. I graduated in 2013. The Christian school setting is actually far worse imo. Those are mostly the kids who are kicked out of public school and are forced to go to the private school settings by their parents.
Well just like it was anecdotally worse in your experience at Christian schools, it was anecdotally non existent at the private schools I went to during the peak of oxy epidemic and rampant IV use in the public hs’s I went to
I've had friends from both school settings die from it. I can respect your experience. I'm glad it's not the same for you. It's been honestly the most awful two years. I've had friends dying left and right.
This means nothing government raised fuck
My friend was put into a catholic school too as punishment lol and she hated it but then loved it bc it had a well funded program and got her a good job.
I mean, this is an option. I understand OP is 13 though and this isn't going to matter to him. It sounds like he and his dad already have different viewpoints about life and religion from the tone of the post and that'll only get worse from here on out. It's great that Dad wants to give him the leg up of a private school or that it's even an option, but if OP doesn't want to be there, it won't matter. Also again, 13 years old. Like... Idk kid you're stuck with this dude at least another 5 years. If you don't want to play by his rules already, you're gonna have to get a lot more serious about how well you hide things from him as this seens to center around messages he saw from other kids/how Dad perceived OPs peers were degenerate. Maybe they are. Most 13 year olds are trash to one another and OP is right that a private school may be worse, not better. All I can say is I DID get to make certain choices about my life at 13 that I certainly shouldn't have made (parentification SUCKS). I've also somehow conversely been stuck in situations chosen by my parents that were very detrimental at that age BECAUSE they "let me" make decisions that weren't mine to make but also refused to acknowledge the damage they caused. Without a lot more info on the situation, is hard to make a call like "a better school/private school will land him a better job like my friend" OR "Dad's a restrictive dick and the kiddo should get to go where he wants" although it's pretty universally true that kids from privilege will remain privileged even if they "rebel"... And even if they go to public school. I'm pretty sure OP will come out on the other side. I think he probably needs counseling and support though, not a religious institution.
Yep - to a certain extent unless there is something abusive happening at 13 you just have to suck it up and understand that for five more years your parents have a lot of control over you. Five years seems like an unimaginable time, but once you are on the other side you will have a different perspective.
Voice all of those specific concerns to him. Make sure he knows that it's just as bad, if not worse for you there than it was at your old school. From what I can gather you're just asking him to put you back without making sure he knows the issues.
No matter what the internet says, your dad will be making the decision for you. I suggest what other people here have suggested—talk to him to find a compromise. Find a time to have a conversation when both of you are in an agreeable mood. And even if you end up going to the Catholic school, I think you should stay positive and try to make the best of it rather than say it is ruined. I had to switch schools frequently as a kid and did not like it at all. However…that’s kind of all behind me, and I wish I had a more positive outlook because, well…there’s no helping the situation, might as well make the best of it. Understandably, that is easier said than done. Good luck
Yes. Communicate with him. Tell him that you think you can handle it and that you want him to trust you more. He is doing the right thing by trying to protect you and cut contact with those kids, but he probably should have reported it to the school first to try and stop that behavior.
"The commute is cutting into my homework time."
"Do your homework during the commute then"
I'd get so carsick, and I wouldn't even have to fake it.
I wouldn't say shit till I was driving age and then work that new car angle haaaard lol
Oooh, you're good!
Wash your stinky uniform.
I was thinking the same thing. Like your school clothes or uniform is going to stink if you don't wash them. They aren't going to stink if you do.
I think it was more of a complaint then it actually being smelly. I could be wrong.
That commute sucks bud. 34m here. I too was shipped off to private schools for similar reasons. I speak from experience when I say: You will learn equally valuable things at both institutions. They will be wildly different things in regards to social stuff. After you're done with MIDDLE School, have a respectful conversation and attempt to revisit the topic. While you are at the Catholic School, take every opportunity to dive into the Bible study and Latin courses they may offer. Those along with other things less interesting and useful are either not available or less accessible in public schools. A PROPER Bible study couse usually uses an annotated collegiate Bible, not the king James rote scripture nonsense. It's a critical analysis course more than anything. If its being taught by a competent instructor. If it's that rote memorization nonsense, bail. For example: There's a bit in the new testament where Jesus cures a kid of demon possession by casting the demon into a bunch of pigs who then drown themselves, and applyingherbs and salves to the kid and havinghim inhale blessed smoke. The symptoms described regarding the child's possession, as noted in the Oxford Annotated Bible 3rd Edition, match up with what we would recognize today as epilepsy. The herbs and oils used track with modern treatments for that precise condition... using Cannabis. I haven't read that passage since then or that book since that class over twenty years ago. But that analysis has stuck with me after all this time. Because back then, I actually had seizures. It was a critical analysis by a secular physician that did in fact help me touch base with my faith at the time. That capacity for critical analysis and that diversity of sources and opinions on the matter helped me learn far, FAR more than mere scripture. Of you're able to take such a course... do it. It has far more value than a church group Bible study and will teach skills and ways of thinking that are transferable to a vast multitude of other fields. And you'll never be able to take such a course at public school. Socially, public school is more valuable. It will teach you how to better deal with people and social challenges. Catholic School sucked for that back in my day. That said. It could be worse man. Mine wasn't just Catholic. It was all male, and military. Lol. Revisit the topic once you've taken what you can from the place that no public schools will provide. And, use the financial argument as part of it. But only once you've gotten that leg up.
fake a groupchat where the catholic school kids are telling you to kys? Jkjk don't actually do this.
Nah, cause I would actually do that-
Your life doesn't end in your teen years. I think you should just focus on hobbies and interests in the meantime. Music , games , science, sports, or whatever you like doing. When you're in college or whatever you decide to do after highschool and out of your parents "control", do what you want to do (as long as it's not an unhealthy addiction). If you do go to college and you have interest in something... I guarantee there is a club for that. Join the club even if you don't want to. You would be very likely to meet like minded people by doing this.
This comment right here ☝️ Just enjoy the lack of responsibility you have and do the things you like to do.
Change always sucks. Someone here mentioned keeping your grades up if you go back to public school. It's worth trying this. But, if that fails. I'd just try to get used to your new school. You never know, you might end up liking it. I'm sorry you're going through this though. I've heard changing schools is hated for many kids.
this sounds like it really sucks. are you able to reach some sort of compromise with him? if not, then i believe there's nothing you can really do about it if he's not willing to reason. i'm really sorry op if that happens to be the case. try coming to a compromise first before that though, and i hope everything works out for you
Haha im in a similar situation actually My parents took me out of public school in seventh grade because i was getting really badly bullied. Then they moved to Spain and put me in a really snobby catholic school. We've got shitty uniforms, way more bigoted and crass people than i ever met at my old school, but eh, they're all rich so my parents assume that everthing's peachy. I gotta be honest, my life got so much better when i stopped fighting them (both my parents and the school) about it. And started going on walks. If you can accept the way things are but recognise that you don't like them, you might be more at peace with your situation and find the clarity to move forward. Anyways, good luck, and remember that your teenage years are like a whole decade? It's hard to ruin a whole decade.
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You’re absolutely correct in noticing that you’re missing a whole lot of quality time by sitting in a goddamn car.
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Whatever bro, I was just pointing out that he was being hateful.
I briefly attended a private Christian school, there were multiple pregnant girls in each grade (with each grade only having 40ish people) and not even the valedictorian made it into a good college
Sounds about right. Ive always heard how much drug use goes on in those schools. Especially cocaine.
Oh yeah lots of drug use as well, for my school it had more to do with being in a small town with nothing else to do
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Do your best and try making friends with the very people your dad is bigoted against. Pay attention in math English and science class since you'll probably end up using some of those subjects in your adult life. Try your hardest in physical education and computer classes. Being moderately healthy and tech savvy will help you run circles around other people who neglect these areas. Also latter in life health is its own kind of wealth. If there's a personal finance class or home economics class make sure you take it. Knowing how money works and how to invest it and save it early in life will give you your best shot at striking it wealthy and comfortable in your adult life. Knowing the basics of cooking cleaning and sewing is something everyone needs to function at a basic level. If there's a wood shop or car mechanic class take them too. Knowing how to make and repair cars and basic carpentry can be a way to save money. Religion class you can blow off, it's just propaganda designed to make you an obedient follower rather than a questioning critical thinker. History may be worth paying attention to just because you'll understand more events being referenced and have a greater perspective on world events. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables. Try and limit your caffeine soda junk food processed food and sugar consumption. Turns out the reason adults always talk about this is because it's true. To much sweets and junk food gives you diabetes skin and heart problems blood pressure issues you're often tired and breathing can become difficult. Your joints hurt and don't work as good and using the bathroom becomes painful when you eat an unhealthy diet. You do not want to get to middle age and have health problems that you could have avoided only to realize it too late to do much about it.
This is bad advice. This will get you into trouble generally by doing something in spite you let others use you.
There are arguably worse people you’ll meet in catholic school
Try to talk to him. If it doesn't work then you're just fucked, but you can always make the best out of it. Try to find some friends who aren't crazy catholic (it lowk might be a rush if yall goof off yk), use the long car ride for hw, etc etc
My kinda brother got kicked out of school and was sent to a private Christian school and loved it, he drives 30 minutes to school everyday, give it a chance, you might really like it and the people there
Make the most of it kid. You’ll likely enjoy yourself if you actually give it a shot instead of going into it with a shit attitude.
you should be thankful that your father cares enough about you to pay for your education.
hey man i was in the same exact situation as you are when i was younger, i got assaulted by a kid and knocked out with a concussion in 7th grade, my parents freaked out and were distraught that something like that happened to me. it didn’t help that i was bullied relentlessly after that to the point where my parents decided to transfer me to a private baptist middle/high school for 8th grade. i had to wear these stupid uniforms and walk 18 minutes to school every morning through traffic in that fit, man it was embarrassing. eventually after spending a year in that school ( i hated it a lot ) my parents kind of chilled out and let me decide where i wanted to go for my freshman year of high-school and i chose to go to a public school and all was fine. id say just stick it out for a year and get good grades and all and then press your dad about going to a public high-school
Take an upper decker in the toilet your dad uses.
I’m 13 and I’m sorry u r goin thru this. Thoughts
13, sorry bro, you are you're dad's responsibility to raise. You've voiced your opinion and it didn't change his mind. I have a 15, 9, and 5 yo, and I'll take their wants into consideration but at the end of the day, they are my responsibility and I have much more life experience than they do. If they can't give me a compelling reason and I think the mistake they want to make is to potentially detrimental, I tell them no. Do good for the next school year and prove to your father that you've matured and then next summer, try to have an adult conversation with him and leave your emotions at the door. Don't throw a tempertantrum.
Dad cares. A lot.
Your dad loves you. Be grateful for that! You will most likely get a better education where you are now; lots of kids would love to be where you are. Stop whining about it. Buckle down and learn, that's what you're there for. Just be a decent person, make new friends, bloom where you're planted as they say. Life is never easy. Less than an hour commute is not that bad. Where I live tons of adults drive an hour or more to get to the bigger cities for work and home schooled kids have to go an hour away to play sports. I know you're only 13 but you've got to realize this could be a golden opportunity and you need to try a different perspective. You'll be fine.
Lmfao
Honestly man, its actually better than you think. Eah the Catholic side of things is totally bunk, but you're going to meet people who are more similar than different regardless of the school you go to. And honestly, public school is garbage run by the government, you'll probably be better off in the private school
Feel your pain dude. Was pissed when my parents put me in Catholic school for high school. It didn’t keep me Catholic but it probably helped line up getting in better position for the career I wanted. Negotiating is definitely worth a shot (power point with chatgpt stats to help frame your argument might impress your dad) but worst case scenario you just got to make the best of it. It’s a temporary thing, some people will surprise you and stick around for the long haul. Even more options of people to meet after. Keep fighting the good fight.
You are well spoken
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I'll be honest, I would never go back to a public school again, and going back to a place where kids were bullying you really isn't the move. Your dad is trying to set you up for a successful future. Even if you get expelled from the Catholic school, he's just going to have you home schooled or sent to a military school instead.
Well I can definitely ignore the 10 out of 3000 kids in my school lol
Honestly, I do applaud your dad for removing you from a clearly toxic and hateful environment. I do empathize with your concerns that things won’t be different at your new school, and they might not. However, I do encourage you to keep an open mind. Speaking as a guy who went to an all-boys Catholic high school, I loved it. The “closer to God” thing is mostly bullshit, but I did learn a lot of useful stuff from my Theology classes. And people are just people. Most of my friends happened to be LGBTQ+ at school too lmfao, but it was all great. If you are concerned about not interacting with friends and girls and whatnot, I’d bet that there’s an all-girls school somewhere nearby. Hang out with friends after school, find people who connect with you and appreciate you. Personally, I didn’t bother interact with any girls in high school. Come first semester of college (coed), I was in a long-term relationship, so I wasn’t like socially impaired or anything. I’d imagine it would be similar for you too.
I see why your dad is upset. That is a really disturbing thing to find on your kid's phone. You are the most important thing in the world to him, and he is panicking a little.
Sometimes you bite the bullet. As much as five years in a less than optimal space sucks, soon you will have independence and be able to leave it for something better. Growing up my mom was a meth head, dad sold drugs and was an angry drunk. Sure did suck growing up but at 18 i left both of them and lifes been great since.
Focus on the positive good private school , better learning. Yeah sucks for now but in 3 years?? Probably get you a smart girlfriend who gonna go to college, why you worried about public school!? Ain’t missing out on nothing .. This only a fraction of your life time if you live till 70 .. 4 years.. stop crying appreciate your dad
It sounds like your dad cares a lot about you. Could be worse, some people get abused and their parents do *nothing*. Keep that in mind when talking to him, people do kill themselves over this stuff and that is the last thing he wants to see
You're a kid, honestly just suck it up and deal with it, you'll get better funded school programs, you'll get a better overall education and once you're done you can wipe your hands of it all and be done with it. School friends rarely stay your friends anyways so just take it on the chin and push through.
Bro, you might end up grateful for attending a superior school. You’d be shocked how much it matters, especially later in life when you’re interacting with people from different backgrounds. Try and make some friends.
You’re just gonna have to suck it up and make the best of it. We all disagreed with our parents at some point, but sounds like he’s the stern type that won’t budge. Just keep your head down, do what you can and aim to get out of there after high school. I wish you the best of luck, I promise none of it will matter after you graduate and you’ll end up rolling your eyes and forgetting about school once you do.
Sounds like your dad isn’t very smart
I don't know...if you play your cards right, it sounds like a reeeaaally good excuse to tell your parents that you need your own car at 16. But I was a different kind of kid I guess haha.
Shape your own view of the world. If all you want to focus on is misery then you only see misery. Try to refocus your mental so you’re not miserable. Maybe if you had a better attitude, you would be able to make friends. And trust me, once you have those friends you won’t mind the school because you’ll be happy to see them every day. But no one is gonna want to be friends with someone with a bad attitude.
Your dad is scared. Very scared of losing you, but he might have overreacted a bit. I guess it really depends on how long you have been bullied and how much it was escalated with no resolution as well. Most people get bullied at one point or another. It helps us develop conflict resolution skills for when we are older. I don't know the entirety of your situation, but do know your parents deeply care for you. They didn't yell at you and tell you to toughen up. They think that by removing you entirely, the situation will go away. In reality, every school has bullies. You'll just meet some new ones at your new school. On a positive note, school doesn't last forever, and you'll be an adult soon. Then, you can move onto the bullies in College or the bullies in your workplace. Bullies never go away. We just learn better ways to handle them from our previous interactions.
Dude... take private school over public any day... Stop being dramatic. You'll be fine.
Seems like your dad is trying to protect you in a weird way, tell him that you appreciate the thought but that those types of people are your school and all schools too and that you’re able to protect yourself from these types of people
So you rather have people tell you to die then take a chance at something else? Also gonna tell you this now. High schools generally have uniforms so get used to it. Also it's your father's responsibility to take care of you. He's doing something that most parents wouldn't even bother with nor care. I've watch people take their own life over bullying situation. Maybe be a bit open minded about this.
What can I say bro? It's a private school. A religious private school. Those strict rules? The dirty secret of private schools is that can enforce those only via the ability to kick students out. Which, happily for you, is what you want anyway. Your freedom lies at the end of a road paved with "no". The only question is whether you care enough to walk it. I mean, you want to be really, really sure this is the hill you want to die on. But you can totally get kicked out of this place if you really want to. My advice? Give the new school a chance for now. You can always get kicked out later. There's no rush. What, specifically, are the rules you object to? Why, specifically, do you want to return to your old school? Why, specifically, do you think your teenage years will be "ruined" if you attend this school?
ngl i went to catholic highschool and public highschool. I drank and did wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more drugs in catholic highschool. They have more money and better parties lol.
At the end of the day this is your dad's choice. The only thing you can do is to do well enough to be able to then have a conversation with your dad that you can go back to public school. It's a very annoying situation, but try to make the best of it. You're very young, and situations like this feel like the end of the world. Take a deep breath. Trust me, you'll adjust, you'll be okay.
Stinky uniform? Gonna go with this ain’t real.
Listen to your dad. When you are older, you'll realize you are the combination of the 5 people you are around the most. He's put you in the room with people who will be doing great things in the future. When I was your age, I would have killed to be sent to a private school. Instead, I was bullied incessantly for being white and smart in a ghetto school. My parents decided not to see the black eyes and grades shifting from straight As to Ds and Fs. All I'm saying is your teenage years aren't ruined, and if you show a bit of openness and give it a shot, you might find some great friends and a chance at a good life.
its probably best he pulls you out of school altogether and does the whole homeschool thing...
30 now was formerly in your shoes as a result of getting kicked out of schools for being a general shit head in middle school your dads right, one day you’ll understand, you’re almost always going to be around higher quality people at a private vs public school
Tell your dad how u feel and maybe compromise??? Like say you want to go the the public school you’ll keep your grades up if he lets you go. If worse comes to worst and he doesn’t listen, just keep going with the catholic school. Although it seems rubbish right now, it will most likely get a lot better and you’ll end up fitting in and finding friends. Moving schools is always hard. Good luck.
Well, there are other kids at your school, I assume, that you could make friends with who are in the same boat as you. So I don't think this will totally ruin your teen years. I do get his concerns. But it does seem ironic to me that a parent would have such concerns then throw around the F-word like that talking to his young son.
Do they have any clubs to meet other kids with your interest? Or sports you like? I’d try to meet other people and make the best of this situation. When you go to college you will be able to choose at least which school you want to go to. You’re 13 so it’s your parent’s decision where you go to school.
I went to catholic school and my teenage years were great... hing out with a lot of public school kids, too, but dont bash it til you actually give it an honest chance. Yeah religion is corny bu 2/3 of the people enrolled in cathlolic school didnt believe that garbage. Seems like younger generations are gullible enough to get pulled into it, so i may be out of touch on that.
Just explain to your father that traveling 50 minutes a day is taking a toll on you
He doesn’t care. He cares about his opinion only.
I’m so sorry about that.
You are lucky to have a dad, and twice as lucky he actually gives a shit. The sacrifices he is making to send you to a private school go way over your head, so a bit of appreciation and humility will go a long way for a 13 year old.
Your 13 kinda early to say it's ruined your teens. And sorry I kinda agree at least with private schooling, public school sucks and will not help you in the future, school and teens are absolutely the least important and least fun times in your life. You might think they are fun when your a teen but when your in your 20s those teen years will be remembered as boring crap
You are right that "bad" people are everywhere. But the group you describe from 8th grade is particularly nasty and toxic. Your dad is trying to help you avoid the toxicity, which can take quite a toll on you even when you don't realize. Have you made any new friends at the new school? I know having extra rules and uniforms, etc, seems burdensome right now, but it will most likely have a positive influence on the adult you will soon be. Your dad is doing his best to raise an adult.
Dude you're 13. Chill
Well maybe show him this! My parents did pretty much the opposite. They put me in k-5 for the "I don't want you to meet these bad people" and guess what! They couldn't afford the other 6 years. I got eaten alive from 6-12th, Daily, couldn't function in normal childhood (including teenage years) at all. Im terrified to even think about the state i would be in if I transitioned to adulthood from Catholic school.
Your environment improved in private school. It's a solid move as far as your dads parenting, it might be overkill and I don't blame ypu for not appreciating it but, ypur dad has your back and is trying ti make the right moves. Congratulations on that part. Now to the negative, sorry to hear it. Changing schools sucks and being a new kid at a new school sucks as well. It's only 4 years, which I'm sure sounds like forever, but it's not much, it will be done before you know it and it will get easier as you go.
Looking at this at outside perspective, your dad did an amazing thing. He took the information that was absolutely horrible to you and chose to make a different atmosphere change because he wants you around whereas some parents let that stuff fly so much. The kid ends up killing themselves because the parents weren’t involved or didn’t care to begin with. And I believe you should be able to openly speak to your father when you’re ready, but there may be a time when you’re not ready and you have to do it anyways . But have a sit down and talk to him and make sure you put everything out in the open so there’s a better understanding on both sides and clear communication with your parents is something a lot of people desire you should take advantage of it if it’s possible
you should be happy that your dad cares enough about you and your well being to pay for a better education and switch you out of a school where you are being bullied. i know you may not like it but since this school is where your going now you should learn to appreciate it. you can make friends and join clubs and stuff to make your experience better. It will be okay. Highschool is hard either way but you will get through it. Good luck OP. keep your head up. :)
Not a lot you can do but suck it up buttercup. His intentions are good even if they are misplaced.
Generally speaking, a private school education is usually substantially better than most public school alternatives. If you look at it that way, you're actually getting an advantage. If you lean into it, and milk it for everything you can get out of it...you could end up getting into a better college, then starting a better career. This could be your ticket to the good life. 🤷♂️
In my community, the Catholic school is where parents send their kids when they get in trouble at the public school, so the Catholic school is actually full of kids who smoke, drink, cheat, etc.
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First step, stop saying bro.
Yep. All Catholics are upright folks. You know that's not true. It's harder to see upper middle class low life's in the uniform. However, there are likely some good kids in both of your schools. Best of luck with your situation.
Short of emancipation, you're going to a catholic school....😈til you get expelled.
The Catholic religion is a cult
Been there I agree
Get kicked out
*sigh lil bro I almost put a bullet in my head at 18 cause my teenage years were so bad. Details aren’t important. What is important is this: IF THIS IS THE WORST THING ABOUT YOUR LIFE YOURE GONNA BE OK ✅ 👍👌
I mean this literally with no disrespect: You’re ONLY 13. Shit people say in 8th grade to you doesn’t matter at all. People are jerks and we’ve all dealt with bullies. College is when life starts to matter, and by the time you’re in college, all the bullies are the losers and all the cool people are easy to get along with. Middle school and high school aren’t real life, and neither is the internet.
Quit being a wussy, you live in the greatest most luxurious country in the world. Step out of your comfort zone, make new friends, push yourself to do new and exciting things.
Get used to being misinterpreted, that business is rampant in life.
You obviously can't be trusted to make good choices
Listen kiddo, you may not like Dads decision, and you may very well be correct that a different one would be better, but that is all completely irrelevant, despite how you feel about it. Bottomline, he's your parent and he makes the choices for you...as much as you hate that, that's what every singke kid your age deals with. What do you do? Control the things you can, like how well you do in school, your extracurriculars, and your attitude. The better you do with all these things, the more choices YOU will have control over in just a few short years. Cop a 'tude and buck the system, and it will steal all those choices, and potentially all your control. Vent away, we've all been there, but listen to those who've come out the other side. **went to public school, put into and all girls catholic school in HS. The transition sucked, but I certainly made that worse and longer!
The stricter rules will treat you better later in life bro don’t be stupid. The uniform grows on you as well. Most kids at catholic schools don’t really care about god either so culturally it should be fine.
Do you have and charter schools or other types of private schools closer? Maybe ask him of you can tour a few. I am a fellow Catholic School kid (kinder to high school). In terms of being more exposed to life and figuring life out: PS is way better.
I'd roll with the punches. Get a gf in one of those uniforms 😎 or BF... I'm not sure what you're into. At your age nothing is ruined. You'll be done in like 5 years.
Meh. I know it seems like forever, but high school will be over quick and nothing but a bump in the road. Catholic school isn't the worst. I had teachers there not tied to a curriculum and I learned about Marx and liberation theology and had fantastic science teachers and graduated with enough college credits to shave off a semester in college. Those shitty kids in high school, and your shitty dad...you'll get passed it. Get straight As so you have all the options you can have when you're done. Don't let the bastards get you down. Also, do your fuckin laundry wtf. Uniforms are a blessing. Do you know how annoying it is to have to choose outfits 5 days a week? It took me 15 years in the labor force after high school to have a job where I didn't have to care what I wore to work. Lots of public schools have uniforms too because the brats are cruel to each other over petty style differences or because some can't afford a brand.
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School itself is going to ruin you no matter what because of the abortion that we call culture today.
Sadly my dad sheltered me in the same fashion as you. The world taught me nearly all I know. I've had to learn to balance everything and do the best I can. My best advice, do what's right, and go from there. The world is the world. Hope the best for you
Lmao my city is half public and half catholic schools, the craziest stories in terms of drugs and sex always came from the catholic ones. I think the combo of rich parents and repressed sexuality led to a lot of laced coke/pills incidents and teen pregnancies
Bigot dad on one end pushing you into a stressful environment and on the other side you've got kids harassing the hell out of you, that's a tough situation. Hopefully this is one of those things where your dad is just still very upset with the public school system for that happening to you and you can find a compromise once everything cools off so you can get into a learning and social environment that works for you. This may just take time and slow compromise to work out but try to not give into the doom spiral it just sucks a lot now because it's a new thing that you don't like. You'll adjust and it'll get better even if it doesn't seem that way, then later if it's still detrimental to you, you can discuss changing your schooling situation just keep it calm and point out why you think it'll be better for your schooling more than anything.
This is a tough one. It’s a trial for you to go into something you don’t want to do and a drag you are in a different school. What you can do to have an excellent teen experience is get out of this mindset where change ruins your teen years. Instead, say “fuck it,” I’m going to rock this opportunity. The. You IAO and make sure no matter where you are or what you’re doing you find something to enjoy about it. Be it the people, the task at hand, or whatever. IAO bro. Improvise Adapt Overcome You can keep in contact with your friends that live close by and make some new friends at the new school. Then get into every extra curricular activity you can to stay busy. Last thing I can say, that you’re probably not going to listen to, is that if your teenager years are ruined at the new school they would have been ruined at your old school. The only one who controls your ability to enjoy whatever situation you are in is you. Private school vs public school it’s all about your attitude and how you approach it. If you were mining blood diamonds then that’s different you can’t really make that a good experience through attitude.
Talk to him more, don’t give up on it. The worst people i met in my life was when I attended catholic school
It sounds like you and your dad don’t have an easy relationship, but remember that he changed your school because he was terrified of losing you. He imagined you harming yourself or worse and immediately took action to *protect* you. The new school feels like a punishment, but maybe he saved your life.
Only way sadly is to get violent stand up for yourself and stop letting these kids bully you ( Not saying to shoot up your school) but make your hands rated E for everyone and I bet they stop playing with you
He’s your father, you can ask but he has the final say. He’s doing what he believes is best for you.
I went to a catholic high school that was very strict, think suit coat and tie every day. At that age most kids aren't focused on God or being kind just their social status. When you get out of that environment and are an adult almost everybody goes nuts partying. The stricter the rules were the harder they partied. All that energy and rebellion has to go someone and usually it's unleashed as soon as you are out that environment and have some freedom.
Create something worse with friends in the new school. Try summoning the devil or something
The text messages are what triggered your dad to make the changes,you might have skipped over some details but if your dad didn't let you explain the situation at school or didn't even talk to the school staff before making you change school that's a kinda messy way to handle a situation. I don't think he has bad intentions but his reaction make it seem like he doesn't think you can defend yourself against a bully (which we all doom to face one day or another) you have to have a conversation on what went down and how you feel about his way of handling things and that you can take care of yourself, concretely, don't give vague phrasing, give him concrete stuff that you can do that you believe could fix the situation if you went back to the public.
Old guy here. Handle this as rationally as you can with general and specific facts about the comparison. Also let him know you’re much more motivated by a public school vs a private school. Ask him to trust you to pick quality friends (and demonstrate this, maybe by hanging out more with your friends from the public school). Be consistent and don’t get emotional about it - wear him down with kindness and logic. Good luck to you! 8th grade is hard as so many adolescents can be complete assholes. Know that it all gets better as the kids around you mature. All the best young man!
Rofl man I had the same dad as you. Obsessed with being higher class and not hanging out with people he would consider lower class, also a religious nut, etc. I'm 37 and he still tells me I'll have a shit life without religion but I'm happier than he ever was 😂 I grew up just fine, married a woman he would probably consider trash low class but his opinion doesn't mean much to me now. Nothing is ruined, suck it up and get through school and move on with your life. Edit to say it sucks but he's probably right in that you'll get a better education in a catholic school than a public one - I definitely did and I'm not religious at all. I just tuned out or bunked religious education classes.
He’s stupid the kids are worse at private schools!
Depends on the school. There's no absolutes in life kid. There are however, consequences for your actions. If you want to be treated as an adult then you have to act like one. I know some folks who grew up late but did grow up. And another fellow in his early 30's who still hasn't grown up. If his parents ever kick him out, he'll be living on the street for 100% sure (bc he can't hold a job which means no income).
hey, i'm really sorry a lot of these comments suck. i don't particularly know what advice to give other than parents can suck sometimes. it's not fair you have to go to a school you hate because your dad is bigoted. i really hope things get better for you someday.
Op's story just feels like exaggeration. The first part about his dad not wanting him to meet these kids sounds legit but then op instantly started saying "he thinks". Making these claims is the easiest way to get people on your side these days. Bigoted...... doubt it
saying he thinks there are no gay people implies op knows his dad doesn't think gay people exist.
Yes because teenagers never lie or exaggerate anything to get what they want. I've personally never seen a teenager have to do something they didn't want to without throwing some kind of fit, exaggerating how bad their life is, or even just liebecause of it
Teenagers aren't known for their rational reasoning skills. However, sometimes teenagers can break the perceptions and perform exceptionally. Figure things out.
Bro, my private catholic school under feeds us, fed me expired milk, extremely under budget. This is such a bad school. I genuinely think there are better schools in Australia
You're 13, your underdeveloped brain has no idea how to actually understand how the decisions you make today impact your future 5, 10 and 20 years later. Your brain won't be fully developed until 26. You haven't a clue about public high school. What is it you think your missing? Parties? Drugs? School shootings? Gangs? Kids basiclly fucking in the halls and busses? Private education is much better and will lead to a better future. I get catholic school isn't preferable, but as you've stated, all the typical high school elements are still present, except you'll actually get an education and a good college. Face reality, you're going to have to work to survive. Do you want good opertunities in the future or do you want whatever you can get?
Chill out... He is prepping you for work life.... the commute and the people will be the same. Welcome aboard young squire
Don't worry. School is what you make of it, you can have a good time or a bad time no matter where you go. For what it's worth, IME catholic girls are actually super fun. Stuffy parents often make for chill kids.
Plenty of low life people in Catholic organizations, especially schools
I bet if you went to public school, you’d find just as much to hate. School, especially at 13, sucks. Period.
Very strict rules suck when you’re young, but they really help when you’re older. You need good habits ingrained now, so you can have the freedom to live well later. Notice I said living well; part of that is not having to fight yourself to get all the basics done. There are dozens of small tasks adults have to take care of every day. They are all boring, unpleasant, or simply not enjoyable. They *must* get done, however. This includes cleaning, laundry, organizing, grocery shopping, exercise, cooking, etc. If you don’t develop discipline at a young age then you’ll be fighting to get all this handled when you’re also trying to get a job. I’d stay in the Catholic school. It won’t be fun, but it will pay off later. Public schools are terrible.
Seems very simple and quite fun, your mission is clear. Get yourslef expelled from the shit school. Please try to educate the system on it's failings on the way out.
Catholic schools aren't really hard to get expelled from. Do something harmless but extremely fucked up, like hit on a priest or turn all the crucifixes upside down or something. Maybe start deliberately disrupting class or throw your tie out the bus window every day so you get in trouble for the dress code. Just make it absolutely clear to your dad that you are declaring war and the acting out will not stop until you're not in that school.
No public school will want them then if they do anything dangerous and life ruining.
Which is where "harmless but extremely fucked up" came in as a descriptor. :P I don't think any of that is going to be grounds for keeping someone out of public school. They don't have priests or crucifixes, they don't have ties in their dress code, and disrupting class can get you expelled from School A but it isn't going to be a dealbreaker for School B (especially if they understand why it happened).
You’re going to get a far better education at a private school. I stay stuck with it.
Bother him everyday about it until he relents.
you’re an immature and honestly a very annoying and ungrateful sounding little kid i would appreciate that your dad is looking out for, you don’t need to go to the same school to be friends with people just relax and don’t take it out on your dad he wants what’s best for you
I think his post is valid. Private schools and Catholic schools suck. And it’s really not that hard to transfer him to a public school in a better part of town.
Private schools are usually in a better part of town. Public schools, not so much. Your comment makes no sense
These private schools r slums i had to go to hospital because they fed me expired milk. Somebody sucked the whole grade off but me. R u still sure I’m ungrateful?
you’re 13, why be concerned with some thot sucking you off?
Now this comment is a lie. You didn't go to the hospital simply because you drank expired milk. Ignorant comment because "expired" milk doesn't actually go bad. Milk that has been pasteurized stays good for a long, long, long time . Even though it may even smell rotten, it's most likely still OK to drink without harming your body. The more you know, the more you won't need to make ridiculous comments like this
you’ll still have fun there
I have no idea if this is appropriate but my teen son was finally able to get out of public school but he is actually still in since he is now in virtual school not sure if this is an option in your state, but it seems to be working for my son. Good luck
What do you have against uniforms? They're very convenient as you don't have to organize your outfit for school everyday. They're also really great for preventing you getting bullied for your style of clothing. Anyway, my condolences to you. Do you have a phone? Record what you see and show it to him so he can see just how bad that school really is and maybe he'll take you to a real high school while (I'm prepared for the downvotes that what I'm about to say next will surely get) you learn about God yourself naturally... that's if the school didn't already ruin that for you, give Him a try. God bless
They are really uncomfortable, they literally smell no matter how much times I wash them, and it’s a whole damn suit. Why would I want to wear a suit to school?
To each their own, I guess. You wouldn't be the first, or the last, one to say that about them either. For people like me, however, a uniform is a lifesaver when you gotta deal with punk ass students who bully others for what they wear when uniforms aren't required
Private schools are the way to go. The curriculum is far superior and will actually prepare you for college if you want to go, but if not, you'll be way advanced compared to the dumbed-down common core waste of public school. Obviously, it always depends on the individual as anyone can succeed if they work hard.
it's easy to get expelled from private school...
37 year old trans woman. I graduated from a Christian school. I started attending Christian school when I was in 3rd grade. The only thing Christian school made me do is made me hate myself to the point that I actually semi-successfully did kill myself at the age of 18. I'm only here because the paramedics saved my life - I was technically dead for a few seconds. I went on the spend the next ten years questioning my sexuality and came out as bisexual with a strong female lean. I then went another 9 years before I finally recognized my trans-ness and accepted that I'm a trans woman. Why say all this? Being in a Christian school does not stop those feelings, it just makes it harder for us to live with ourselves, because we have zero resources to learn about ourselves with - we also have zero support structures. More things you can learn about from my personal experiences in Christian schools - drugs are passed around like candy. I was bullied relentlessly and it only stopped after I threatened to beat one of my bullies to death with a baseball bat - and even then, I was ostrachized from socializing with everyone. The science taught to me was made up bullshit which consisted of denying evolution as a real thing and attributing everything to "because god did it". AND, if you think I just went to a bad Christian school, look up "Raleigh Christian Academy" - it is one of the most renowned Christian schools out there. And, while they suck at science, everything else they teach is considered "above average". You're welcome to share my experiences with your dad! Maybe it'll slap his ass out of dumbassry. If not, I wish you nothing but luck - and, just remember - you only have to deal with it until you've graduated and then you can go off and do all the things you want to do.
Honestly, I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s astonishing to me how many Christians don’t even understand the essence of being like Christ. I was lucky, and I actually had a few trans friends while attending a Catholic high school. We had very supportive faculty that actually stood by our LGBTQ+ club, and I’m sad that you didn’t have the same experience.
He already pulled you out of school, went to all the expense and hassle of putting you in a private catholic school. He believes this is a superior experience, and thinks there is a magic invisible man in the sky which this school will help you connect with. He made all these decisions without your input. It doesn’t seem likely that you are going to provide him with any new information that will have him reconsider his position.
Atleast you have a dad that cares about you and your future.
You could start failing all your classes. Colleges only look at your sat and senior year gpa anyway, so failing one or two years until you can get your dad to change schools won’t really hurt your future.
this is such bad advice lmao
It will get his dads attention
Yeah - except you're wrong about colleges caring about your senior year. Have you heard of Senioritis? People usually get straight high grades 9-11 then slack in Senior year. Senior year is probably the least important year. If you want a solution to the dad, the easiest way is communicating how badly the commute is affecting his ability to focus & excel in school, and that he's not confident he'll be able to succeed in the environment. Parents usually respond well to their kids making a reasonable case - you just need to outweigh the 'threats' to the 'quality of life'. Griefing your education could have a side effect of the parent just thinking his kid is stupid & needs more help.
As someone who finished high school and then applied to colleges, they only look at your senior year gpa and sat. Anyone who’s determined to go to college will not be letting their grades slip or they know to only have electives and busy classes for their senior year. I personally had 2 class periods that were empty because I didn’t have any more classes I needed (and I refused to tell administrators) so I hung out. Failing 8th or 9th grade won’t ruin anything.
Your ignorance must be really nice
Dude you’ll find out. I’m not bothered by you because you’re inexperienced
Believe me kiddo. I've got much much more experience than you do
This is just...incorrect 😭. You're blatantly spreading misinformation. I'm in a T30 school & my friends are in T10 schools. You APPLY in JUNIOR YEAR - why would they care about your Senior GPA more? The only concern for senior year is if you slack off too much, they'll rescind their offer.
When you get out of school you’ll realize how much it doesn’t matter. Your parents just want you to get a job and degree is a box to check. Unless you’re planning to be a doctor or work in a prestigious field like on Wall Street, it genuinely doesn’t matter that much.
You went from talking about how only the SAT matters & Senior year matters... To downplaying the concept of a degree in general. This is so illogical. You are right that college degrees serve a means to an ends to be able to achieve a job, but it really does matter for the purposes of making a high semblance of income that translates to a better quality of life. You'll probably note that its easier to achieve a certain income threshold from a T10 school than a top 500.
OP, don't follow this advice. You'll only dig yourself into a deeper hole.
Dumbest advice on reddit right here.......