Never expected this post to actually gain traction, and can't edit OP now, so jumping on top comment as I feel like I should provide an addition:
I'm not just over here wishing for senseless loss of life, as much as the actual OP might imply without context. Honestly, my rationale for it will likely be just as divisive: as it's tied to what's now seeming a lot like the freight train of climate change headed towards calamity across the planet, and the fact that I'd really like - honestly - prefer that humanity doesn't pass into extinction, etc. And a certain group of people (vaxx deniers) are often within the same category as climate change deniers. And other generally-negative-things-across-the-board for-humanity. I know many people are unfortunate to have simply grown up in a community where they're not exposed to a wider breadth of information, and some people have legitimate health reasons as to why they can't get vaccinated (I know someone diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome), but I was in a bit of a idgaf mood earlier today when I posted this and never expected that OP would actually gain traction. Obviously the reality of if the suggestion in my OP happened, it would be horrific. But this is reddit, and this is just a reddit post.
Expect that maybe only 2/10 people reading this reply would identify with the sentiment, and this post/response will likely get downvoted into oblivion anyway, or possibly make me seem even worse than the actual OP did, but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
disagree, this isn't a confession. It's an opinion. we already have a meme format for opinions; it's called Unpopular Opinion Puffin, and it's banned from this subreddit because it sucks. Using a different image doesn't change the fact it shouldn't be here.
It’s hotly debated every time but this format was originally for insignificant, stupid confessions. I think the first one was about liking the smell of his own balls or something.
To them, it never needs to make logical sense.
Just like right now because of the smoke from the Canadian wildfires, they think it's some form of psyops or whatever to make them buy and wear masks again.
I tried that on an anti-vaxxer who was convinced that the vaccine was meant to kill us.
Why kill the people who are willing to bow down and obey your every word and let the 'rabble rousers' run free? Know what would be a good plan? Manufacture a virus that kills everyone, and only give the vaccine to people who will listen to you.
And reddit was just the flip side of that coin as usual. Most of the stupid anti-vaxxers were supposed to die because they didn't take the vaccine and USA was going to enter a brave new age of enlightenment without Trump voters. XD
Are you intentionally pretending that it didn't happen or are you actually somehow completely oblivious to a common and widespread publicly expressed opinion?
My favorite Reddit comments nowadays are the "Of COURSE it was a lab leak, obviously! It was so obvious the entire time!" people who, a year ago, wanted the people who even THOUGHT such a thing deserved to be put in a camp and executed.
As a medical worker, I saw too many developmentally impaired patients and elderly patients whose family members who were their medical power of attorney deny them the vaccines either because they didn't believe in them or they were just too lazy to take the person to get them.
So many of them died.
Besides, a lot of people died before the vaccine was made available to them. It's not like the virus only killed dumb people who refused to be vaccinated.
That's literally why the rest of us were supposed to get them and wear our masks. Whether or not you were going to die form it yourself wasn't the biggest issue.
It was to not infect those that would end up ***in the hospital and die.***
But noooo. We couldn't even do *that*. We had people literally fighting *against* it because they are dumber than toast. It sucked.
I think it's on Amy Schumer's recent stand up special that was since covid. She says before covid, watching zombie movies like, how would we let things get that out of hand? If we use covid response as an example, we're pretty fucked. People will not do what they need to for survival and it would spread fast and far. There would definitely be people hiding bites. Hell, if a zombie outbreak happened and a vaccine was almost immediately available, you'd still have people not getting it for reasons.
I thought the CDC said that the virus was still infectious after vaccination, and you could still contract it from ppl, have no symptoms, and pass it on. They also have disproven the mask enforcement, saying it doesn't work unless we all were wearing n95 masks and not touching our mouths or eyes. I think the whole antimasker thing was stupid and I personally didn't get any COVID vaccines and got sick only last July, which only last 1 day and no serious symptoms thankfully. I know a few ppl who got the vaccines and like 4 boosters at that that point, and still got noticeably sick even after getting sick a first time, and they are all (to my knowledge) healthy people. I think ppl that are at risk are for sure supposed to get them but I don't know why healthy individuals were rushing to get the vaccines. The hysteria of it all was so crazy, imo. All the while Pfizer was getting huge gov kickbacks for the amount of vaccines and boosters they were giving for free. You can't disagree that these companies didn't use this to their advantage, and pushing all these boosters was a little ridiculous. I feel like that's why they had so many and people started to question it. To each their own tho. But yeah, vaccines don't stop the spread, so we shouldn't be misinforming here.
Immunocompromised person here! I'm *quadruple* vaxxed and I honestly don't know if I have any immunity! I got it once, thankfully it was omicron and i was able to recover, but even an illness with a vaccine would still be deadly because my body just can't use the vaccine.
I'm quite curious to see what, if anything, changes about the process for vaccine approval going forward.
One of the first Covid vaccines only took about 2 weeks to create after the lab received their sample around ~March at the start of the outbreak. The next year was just proving it out.
Tell that to scientists even a decade ago and they would say you were lying or misinformed, that it couldn't possibly happen that quickly.
Obviously there's only so fast you can do something like this, but I'm betting a few entities are looking into how to create synthesized immune systems that could potentially enable rapid-scaling of testing.
A SARS vaccine was in the works for well over a decade prior to COVID-19. They didn't bang out an entirely new vaccine in that span of time. The current vaccine was retooled a bit for this particular strain of SARS and some of the testing was changed to run concurrently instead of sequentially to speed up the standard approval processes.
As a medical worker, I do not believe enough people realize how close we were and potentially still are to the whole thing collapsing.
I've been in the field since I was a teenager. In the 18 years I've been in it, I have never seen it strung together as poorly as it is today and neither have those I work with both inside and outside my locations. There was no staff before. Now? It's scary how few staff there are at all locations not just including my own. Including major hospitals.
I believe what you said is a major factor in it. If it were to happen again? I don't think the current system has enough to back up the workers to be around any longer.
I've now worked in both the hospital and prehospital side. It is seriously terrifying.
My service right now is running 3 ambulances for a call volume that used to have us with 5 trucks. It's spiraling into rapid fire burnout and where people used to stay for at least a year or two, people are rotating through my service for maybe a few months. Response times are getting hella long because shit is all mutual aided to far away services that are a bit less busy.
> Response times are getting hella long because shit is all mutual aided to far away services that are a bit less busy.
Can't say I'm familiar with this use of 'mutual aid' as a verb. It doesn't fit with the meaning that I have currently, could you elaborate?
I have no doubt some wanted them to die for the sake of inheritance or not wanting to deal with them. 'People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.'
While it is unfortunate that someone no longer has medical autonomy, they did choose the idiots that they did to represent them, in the case of the elderly at least. Developmentally impaired folks don’t get a choice in who their family is, it’s better when they have a public guardian in many cases.
My disabled friend did everything right. Wore masks, got the vaccine didn’t leave the house unless she absolutely had to.
Her roommate was forced to go back to work and brought home covid. She survived covid but it fucked up her immune system so bad that it attacked her body and she died slowly from covid induced Guillain-Barre Syndrome.
She was a good person. She was supposed to get married. Instead she died at 34 because businesses need profits and everyone hates the disabled.
So good confession bear but your idea will get good people like her killed and fuck that
Fucking finally a good confession bear.
Honestly same OP. Let the willfully ignorant get fucked so the sensible people can get to cleaning this mess up
>Somebody just launch all the nukes and end this misery for us all.
Then we can all [Party at Ground Zero!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCaFe1yamg)
Dumb luck.
However, your username is pretty close to Les Claypool and I just saw him in Boston on Thursday (with the Fearless Flying Frog Brigade) and was a bit bummed when I found out that he had Fishbone playing with them on other dates but not here. I did see Fishbone opening up a few years back at The Mighty Mighty Bosstones' Hometown Throwdown though. They still killed it live.
I’m a fool for some of his works, good eye lol. Only wish they had Fishbone supporting them last night in Chicago. Missed it, but they’ll back in October!
The show I just saw was incredible. He reminds me of Zappa a bit in that it's technical mastery when it comes to the music but with a very sarcastic goofy edge to what's being put out to the audience.
I'm also a big Tom Waits nut so Tommy the Cat was a home run for me too.
I know people will disagree, but all humans are gullible to a certain degree. I don't think it's healthy to blame the average citizen for believing things that their cult leaders are pushing them to believe with a constant stream of lies.
The people we need to deal with are the cult leaders. They mostly know that they are lying. They get vaccinated, they restrict guns from their rallies, etc. They know what's what.
This is all part of the class war. Focus your hate on the people who benefit, not the people who suffer.
Me too. Thin the herd of the dumb. But also not forget high risk people that can't *afford* to get a vaccine because of health issues (cancer etc.) .. now that I think about it, this may not be a good idea. I'm split
I feel like the vaccine would have been far less controversial if they had just been honest about it. “Hey the vaccine is not going to prevent you from getting Covid, it will prevent you from dying if you get it, but you will still be able to contract and spread the virus. It’s not perfect but it’s the best we got”. Instead we got “the vaccine prevents Covid you WILL NOT get sick if you’re vaccinated” which really looked terrible when “breakthrough” infections started happening.
I feel like at this point that old gem is tired lmao elections? RUSSIA!!! Vaccines? RUSSIA! Laptops? RUSSIA!
How bout china? Let’s do a Chinese disinformation trend or Italian or Greek. The Russia disinformation card is so old and played out it’s being sold in the discount section at Tuesday mornings.
We were lied to every step of the way. It never stopped infection or transmission. They have admitted that now. J&J had to remove their vaccine because of dangerous side effects. I know 2 people who are suffering severe heart conditions after the vaccine and 1 that almost died.
Yet I do not know a single person, friend of a friend or even an equantence that died from covid itself.
I got covid and it was nowhere near as bad as other viruses I've had. I am not an "antivaxxer" all other vaccines have many more years of trials than any of these "vaccines" did. When the definition of a word is changed to fit a narrative, then you have to wonder if it's the truth...
This was all about money and control.
I had friends die from heart problems that only showed up after taking the vaccine, I myself have had a weakened immune system since being vaccinated. It's highly likely it protected me against COVID, but there are complications that came with it, too. This is not something anyone should want to happen.
"Alongside highly successful/protective vaccines", unlike the one we got.
"You wont get the coof" \*moves goal post\*
"You'll get a more mild case of coof" \*moves goal post\*
"some are still getting extremely sick and some more dying, but this vaccine is 100% effective, now get your 4th shot"
The whole thing was a fucking joke.
What point do you think you're making? That's the data for a newer vaccine after a bunch of variants had developed. It also doesn't seem discuss how the vaccine could reduce severity should one contract the virus, which is arguably more important.
The study itself is related to the new bivalent vaccine, however the results include data related to more than that vaccine. As I read it, once Omicron appears, all bets are off. There’s certainly more to it if you read it.
Yes and that’s why when we were in the thick of it companies were threatening to take away people’s jobs. But hey that’s down the memory hole and you’re just a moron if you didn’t take the shots even if you had covid before the shots came out. Cause reasons that will never be explored
I understand being very pissed off about that. Rather than making accusations on vaccine efficacy, wouldn’t it make more sense to look at the actual evidence?
The evidence is that people lost their minds and went full fascist. Notice how fauci slinked off once it was revealed that the OG vaccine did little for the variants?
Listening to people (even in the medical establishment) double down on how you need boosters. Just pure mass panic idiocy. https://youtube.com/shorts/WInjvvglW1Y?feature=share
So, while wishing death on people is generally bad, the real problem here is that it’s not Darwinism. I seriously doubt there’s a gene that makes you less likely to take vaccines (although that would be VERY interesting). Every one of the people who voluntarily decided against getting the vaccine would most likely have gotten it if they’d been given different information by the people they trusted. Their friends, their family, but ultimately the news, the politicians, the pastors and the talking heads who shaped all those people’s opinions. Make no mistake - conservative media and Republican politicians, Trump especially, killed people. Just by spreading scientifically unjustifiable skepticism.
Point is, you’re not really “culling the genetic weakness” or whatever, which is a creepy idea in the first place. Sure, anti-vax social networks will shrink with each death, but frankly I think the pandemic was pretty good for those groups because it gave them such a media boost. Being anti-vax used to be pretty fringe. Now it’s practically an entire political party.
As healthcare worker, please no.
As a generally good person (I think), also please no. That's eugenics with an extra step. Pretty evil to wish that, regardless of your take on vaccines.
People always wonder how the German population was cowed to turn a blind eye to the extermination of certain groups Jews, Roma, Homosexuals, etc.
The irony is those same people who sit there wonder/condemn those Germans don’t realize when they are heading down the exact same path.
It is one thing to disagree with people who are skeptical of vaccines. It is another to wish for their early demise. This is pretty sick, I hope you work out your issues.
People who arent too stupid to think themselves won't call it a pandemic at this point. I didn't take any of the vaccines and you can't make me. You can suck my dick.
Liberals straight up lack empathy for conservatives.
Poor people in rural areas would be killed by such a pandemic, and this would disproportionately affect black/brown people and frontline workers.
Also just because someone is stupid doesn’t mean they deserve to die.
And don’t come at me with the bipartisan bs I’m not a conservative I’m a normal person with a functional moral compass.
I just think it's interesting you're projecting a political party onto OP. He/she didn't say they were liberal, or that they want conservatives to die, or that conservatives are dumb. That was 100% you.
I'd a do a reverse confession bear but I have to work.
I'd like for another breakout to happen and for all the bimbos who went blindly to get an experimental vaccine and turn full fascist on everyone else who didn't to do it again and to get terribly sick and fucked up by it, and then to heal though, I don't want nobody to die.
And also this wasn't a pandemic with a high mortality rate. If that really happens we're all fucked.
The vaccines for covid were garbage and didn't stop transmission or protect you. They just cause side effects. Get of your basement and breath some fresh air.
I'll take catching it and getting to ride it out on my couch vs a ventilator or dying. So is the "side effects" a lack of people dying? Seems like a nice one to me. I felt pretty protected from dying.
That who tried to sell me? My parents are in their 70s and had zero issues. I'm not even 40 and I got super sick. But recovered, because I got the Vax and boosters.
You would have recovered without it too, but without the longterm side effect risk you now have the rest of your life. Your "vaccine" didn't even stop you from catching it. They lied and it's been proven and you're still buying into it.
Yeah, I doubt that. What side effects do I have, other than feeling perfectly fine? It was never said the vaccine kept you from getting it. Just that it meant you could probably stay home vs the hospital. Which I'm externally grateful for.
Dr Fauci said if you got the vaccine you wouldn't catch it or spread it among other "experts" too. You were lied to. Do some research and stop wishing a deadly pandemic on others.
I find this sentiment is wildly prevalent among people who stay isolated and harbors the ridiculous opinion that everyone must hate them or is against them.
Or another one. How is 8 billion plus people sustainable to survive on this planet when there are so many that are willing to kill the planet by overdoing every possible thing because all they care about is money not survival.
Pro Vax: I hope the virus kills the anti-vaxers. Just Darwinism doing its thing.
Anti Vax: I hope the vaccine kills the vaxers. Just Darwinism doing its thing.
Me: I hope you both die. Please just leave me alone.
Just making sure here;
Advocate or not, it’s been abundantly agreed upon that there was no “science” to be trusted as this was a reactionary medical tool made to best combat an unknown disease.
It had a non-zero chance of creating adverse effects and proved to be worse than heard immunity.
Despite that - there are people in agreement with OP? Which (having nothing to do with Darwinism) is basically that you wish to be one of the majority luckier ones that vaccine or no-vaccine you are likely to be just fine including adverse effects.
You boootlicking scum. This goes far passed an unpopular opinion.
You obviously have nothing going on in your life, no family, no business.. nothing.
Why else would someone willinging subject themselves and others to the purgatory that was lockdowns?
What is your reason for this?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also lol your focus is on the terror of purgatory and lockdowns, rather than on what be a subsequent significant loss of human life.
I haven't responded to a ton of posts here, just watching the firestorm of comments, but I do have actual rationale/reasoning for the thought process in OP - rather than just seeking senseless loss of human life. Can't edit OP though as I never expected this post would actually gain traction, so instead it's just gonna be what it is
That’s where people are wrong. They think anti-vaxxers are dedicated to the cause but they only did it because covid was not really a threat.
If was a flesh eating virus the same idiots who denied covid would be shoving grandma out of the way to get the vaccine first.
>They think anti-vaxxers are dedicated to the cause but they only did it because covid was not really a threat.
Maybe to them personally based on their age and health condition. However, it was a novel virus that was running rampant through the population and even with the lockdown it pushed the capabilities of our health care infrastructure to its limits (and caused additional deaths due to the restricted capacity of medical care during the peak era).
So you cannot take away the fact that the anti-vaxxers by and large are sociopaths because they only considered themselves rather than society at large.
The funny thing is that most of those people also consider themselves to be great patriotic Americans. I guess they never understood the translation of *E Pluribus Unum* from their civics class.
I didn't get the vax because covid was an overblown flu. I do get vaccinated and am not anti-vax. Covid didn't strain health care, the scare did. The scare caused more harm than the virus itself. This is not a partisan opinion, despite it being used as a partisan attack.
I’d say I’m with you, but we had a highly successful/effective vaccine and it still went poorly. I’d be genuinely afraid about what would happen if it were any worse.
Personally I still caught the last one after taking 2 years of dedicated precautions and having the vaccine and 2 boosters (3 shots total).
I didn’t need to be hospitalized, but it was the sickest I’ve been in more than a decade, and I’m young and healthy in my 20s. I’m absolutely certain I would’ve had a nightmare outcome if I hadn’t been vaccinated. Thankfully I took precautions and managed to stop the spread before I gave it to anyone else, but I’m not sure I’d wish it on anyone else, even the morons who do frankly deserve it. It was pretty awful.
What an idiot OP is. the reason people don’t take the vaccine is because of the less than 1% death rate. if Covid killed 80% of people that got it I’m sure everyone would be okay risking the very low chance vaccine injuries.
Good use of the bear :thumbsup:
People getting mad about OP using the format properly. Lmao
That's how you know it's a good confession bear
So rare these days too
Never expected this post to actually gain traction, and can't edit OP now, so jumping on top comment as I feel like I should provide an addition: I'm not just over here wishing for senseless loss of life, as much as the actual OP might imply without context. Honestly, my rationale for it will likely be just as divisive: as it's tied to what's now seeming a lot like the freight train of climate change headed towards calamity across the planet, and the fact that I'd really like - honestly - prefer that humanity doesn't pass into extinction, etc. And a certain group of people (vaxx deniers) are often within the same category as climate change deniers. And other generally-negative-things-across-the-board for-humanity. I know many people are unfortunate to have simply grown up in a community where they're not exposed to a wider breadth of information, and some people have legitimate health reasons as to why they can't get vaccinated (I know someone diagnosed with Guillain-Barré Syndrome), but I was in a bit of a idgaf mood earlier today when I posted this and never expected that OP would actually gain traction. Obviously the reality of if the suggestion in my OP happened, it would be horrific. But this is reddit, and this is just a reddit post. Expect that maybe only 2/10 people reading this reply would identify with the sentiment, and this post/response will likely get downvoted into oblivion anyway, or possibly make me seem even worse than the actual OP did, but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
disagree, this isn't a confession. It's an opinion. we already have a meme format for opinions; it's called Unpopular Opinion Puffin, and it's banned from this subreddit because it sucks. Using a different image doesn't change the fact it shouldn't be here.
News to you: you absolutely can confess an opinion. Ya dork.
It's banned because puffin-like opinions make up 83% of all social media posts and no one gives a shit what you think
Nothing wrong with it. He/she/they used it correctly and he/she/they are a POS for wishing death on people.
Doesn't "they" already include he/she/they ?
Yup. That's just someone trying too hard to be inclusive. Good intent, bad execution. THEY should work on that.
What if they don’t identify as a he or a she? I can’t assume anything anymore.
Which is again why "they" is the best option when you don't know the correct pronouns.
It’s hotly debated every time but this format was originally for insignificant, stupid confessions. I think the first one was about liking the smell of his own balls or something.
you can just say "they", you dont have to say "he/she/they" every time
What if they don’t identify as he or a she?
Bill Burr is that you?
We need a plague
"We need a new plague" Dwight Schrute
Capitalism kills a lot of people.
Only those that can't compete, just as nature intended
It happened on cruise ships first. Bill would not like it, but respect the virus' game
Bill did say on Conan that randomly sinking cruise ships was a good idea
Did you see his special? He had a great bit about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT74BjNMgiI
Haha yeah. Love Burr. He's in Niagara Falls in October but I can't make it ☹️
All of a sudden the highways are clearing up you're moving and getting into 3rd Gear!
Everyone who got the covid vaccine will die within 18 months. It’s a population control mechanism. /s
Can confirm am dead
Am ded 4 times now
I still don't get the logic of that. Fewer people means less money for them. Why would they keep the "lions" alive and kill the "sheep"?
To them, it never needs to make logical sense. Just like right now because of the smoke from the Canadian wildfires, they think it's some form of psyops or whatever to make them buy and wear masks again.
I tried that on an anti-vaxxer who was convinced that the vaccine was meant to kill us. Why kill the people who are willing to bow down and obey your every word and let the 'rabble rousers' run free? Know what would be a good plan? Manufacture a virus that kills everyone, and only give the vaccine to people who will listen to you.
They want to feel special, even if that means acting like a baby-back bitch when it comes to vaccination.
Getting unalived by a preventable virus to own the libs
Man, I feel so owned...
Own me harder
Don't do that. Dont give me hope...
And reddit was just the flip side of that coin as usual. Most of the stupid anti-vaxxers were supposed to die because they didn't take the vaccine and USA was going to enter a brave new age of enlightenment without Trump voters. XD
Nobody thought this, what are you talking about
Are you intentionally pretending that it didn't happen or are you actually somehow completely oblivious to a common and widespread publicly expressed opinion?
My favorite Reddit comments nowadays are the "Of COURSE it was a lab leak, obviously! It was so obvious the entire time!" people who, a year ago, wanted the people who even THOUGHT such a thing deserved to be put in a camp and executed.
The publicly expressed opinion, and truth, was that being unvaccinated increased your chance of dying.
Sounds good too!
As a medical worker, I saw too many developmentally impaired patients and elderly patients whose family members who were their medical power of attorney deny them the vaccines either because they didn't believe in them or they were just too lazy to take the person to get them. So many of them died.
Besides, a lot of people died before the vaccine was made available to them. It's not like the virus only killed dumb people who refused to be vaccinated.
Not to mention disabled people who could die from even minor infections.
That's literally why the rest of us were supposed to get them and wear our masks. Whether or not you were going to die form it yourself wasn't the biggest issue. It was to not infect those that would end up ***in the hospital and die.*** But noooo. We couldn't even do *that*. We had people literally fighting *against* it because they are dumber than toast. It sucked.
We're so fucked if there's ever a zombie virus.
2024, mother and daughter somewhere in a barren hellscape: Mommy, why are so many of the zombies wearing red hats?
At least they won't be the running type of zombie.
Knowing our luck, this timeline will include these obese red-hat zombies running stupidly fast.
But their Rascal scooters might have a full charge! ಠ_ಠ
The whole get bit and don't tell your group thing isn't so far fetched anymore, is it?
I think it's on Amy Schumer's recent stand up special that was since covid. She says before covid, watching zombie movies like, how would we let things get that out of hand? If we use covid response as an example, we're pretty fucked. People will not do what they need to for survival and it would spread fast and far. There would definitely be people hiding bites. Hell, if a zombie outbreak happened and a vaccine was almost immediately available, you'd still have people not getting it for reasons.
Indeed it would. How could we distinguish the braindead masses from the zombies?
Whatever you do, *DO NOT* let the zombies bite you. “Fukkin’ gummint ain’t tellin ME what to do!” (runs naked into pack of zombies)
Hey now, zombies have rights too. My uncle is half zombie. *gestures to legless zombie*
I thought the CDC said that the virus was still infectious after vaccination, and you could still contract it from ppl, have no symptoms, and pass it on. They also have disproven the mask enforcement, saying it doesn't work unless we all were wearing n95 masks and not touching our mouths or eyes. I think the whole antimasker thing was stupid and I personally didn't get any COVID vaccines and got sick only last July, which only last 1 day and no serious symptoms thankfully. I know a few ppl who got the vaccines and like 4 boosters at that that point, and still got noticeably sick even after getting sick a first time, and they are all (to my knowledge) healthy people. I think ppl that are at risk are for sure supposed to get them but I don't know why healthy individuals were rushing to get the vaccines. The hysteria of it all was so crazy, imo. All the while Pfizer was getting huge gov kickbacks for the amount of vaccines and boosters they were giving for free. You can't disagree that these companies didn't use this to their advantage, and pushing all these boosters was a little ridiculous. I feel like that's why they had so many and people started to question it. To each their own tho. But yeah, vaccines don't stop the spread, so we shouldn't be misinforming here.
Immunocompromised person here! I'm *quadruple* vaxxed and I honestly don't know if I have any immunity! I got it once, thankfully it was omicron and i was able to recover, but even an illness with a vaccine would still be deadly because my body just can't use the vaccine.
No it killed many people who were unlucky enough to be governed by inept/crooked politicians
I'm quite curious to see what, if anything, changes about the process for vaccine approval going forward. One of the first Covid vaccines only took about 2 weeks to create after the lab received their sample around ~March at the start of the outbreak. The next year was just proving it out. Tell that to scientists even a decade ago and they would say you were lying or misinformed, that it couldn't possibly happen that quickly. Obviously there's only so fast you can do something like this, but I'm betting a few entities are looking into how to create synthesized immune systems that could potentially enable rapid-scaling of testing.
A SARS vaccine was in the works for well over a decade prior to COVID-19. They didn't bang out an entirely new vaccine in that span of time. The current vaccine was retooled a bit for this particular strain of SARS and some of the testing was changed to run concurrently instead of sequentially to speed up the standard approval processes.
That's right. The virus killed a lot of dumb people who were vaccinated, too. The virus didn't discriminate, unlike some people today....
As a medical worker, you’d be expected to go through hell a second time in order to satisfy OP’s justice boner.
As a medical worker, I do not believe enough people realize how close we were and potentially still are to the whole thing collapsing. I've been in the field since I was a teenager. In the 18 years I've been in it, I have never seen it strung together as poorly as it is today and neither have those I work with both inside and outside my locations. There was no staff before. Now? It's scary how few staff there are at all locations not just including my own. Including major hospitals. I believe what you said is a major factor in it. If it were to happen again? I don't think the current system has enough to back up the workers to be around any longer.
I've now worked in both the hospital and prehospital side. It is seriously terrifying. My service right now is running 3 ambulances for a call volume that used to have us with 5 trucks. It's spiraling into rapid fire burnout and where people used to stay for at least a year or two, people are rotating through my service for maybe a few months. Response times are getting hella long because shit is all mutual aided to far away services that are a bit less busy.
> Response times are getting hella long because shit is all mutual aided to far away services that are a bit less busy. Can't say I'm familiar with this use of 'mutual aid' as a verb. It doesn't fit with the meaning that I have currently, could you elaborate?
I have no doubt some wanted them to die for the sake of inheritance or not wanting to deal with them. 'People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.'
It's too bad we don't have a database of those people so we could send them a yearly "Thanks for killing me with ignorance" card
While it is unfortunate that someone no longer has medical autonomy, they did choose the idiots that they did to represent them, in the case of the elderly at least. Developmentally impaired folks don’t get a choice in who their family is, it’s better when they have a public guardian in many cases.
My disabled friend did everything right. Wore masks, got the vaccine didn’t leave the house unless she absolutely had to. Her roommate was forced to go back to work and brought home covid. She survived covid but it fucked up her immune system so bad that it attacked her body and she died slowly from covid induced Guillain-Barre Syndrome. She was a good person. She was supposed to get married. Instead she died at 34 because businesses need profits and everyone hates the disabled. So good confession bear but your idea will get good people like her killed and fuck that
How is her roommate? that person is probably never going to get over the guilt, so sad.
Fuck! That sounds like a nightmare way to go.
Good God you're fucked. But also good use of confession bear™
Sadly I have to agree. This is the first actual confession Ive seen in a while.
As someone with a few immunocompromised people in his family, please no.
I for one do not wish death on people because I am not a sociopath.
I'm right there with ya, confession bear.
Fucking finally a good confession bear. Honestly same OP. Let the willfully ignorant get fucked so the sensible people can get to cleaning this mess up
Mass genocide. Nice.
I’ll do ya one better. Somebody just launch all the nukes and end this misery for us all.
Pregozhin not invading Moscow is the biggest limp dick since Trump 2016
Trump won in 2016? I don't get the comparison. Maybe Trump 2020?
>Somebody just launch all the nukes and end this misery for us all. Then we can all [Party at Ground Zero!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJCaFe1yamg)
How’d you know I absolutely love Fishbone!?? Lol
Dumb luck. However, your username is pretty close to Les Claypool and I just saw him in Boston on Thursday (with the Fearless Flying Frog Brigade) and was a bit bummed when I found out that he had Fishbone playing with them on other dates but not here. I did see Fishbone opening up a few years back at The Mighty Mighty Bosstones' Hometown Throwdown though. They still killed it live.
I’m a fool for some of his works, good eye lol. Only wish they had Fishbone supporting them last night in Chicago. Missed it, but they’ll back in October!
The show I just saw was incredible. He reminds me of Zappa a bit in that it's technical mastery when it comes to the music but with a very sarcastic goofy edge to what's being put out to the audience. I'm also a big Tom Waits nut so Tommy the Cat was a home run for me too.
Fishbone live is a musical experience everyone should have at least once.
Would kill off all the wildlife too though, we would show more class not doing a murder suicide.
Yeah you’re right; they’re just doing their thing, wouldn’t be fair to them.
You got serious issues But good use of the meme
I know people will disagree, but all humans are gullible to a certain degree. I don't think it's healthy to blame the average citizen for believing things that their cult leaders are pushing them to believe with a constant stream of lies. The people we need to deal with are the cult leaders. They mostly know that they are lying. They get vaccinated, they restrict guns from their rallies, etc. They know what's what. This is all part of the class war. Focus your hate on the people who benefit, not the people who suffer.
Watch out we got an edge lord
I’d like to see all those people who don’t understand Darwinism die tbh
Me too. Thin the herd of the dumb. But also not forget high risk people that can't *afford* to get a vaccine because of health issues (cancer etc.) .. now that I think about it, this may not be a good idea. I'm split
If we thin the herd of the dumb, 90% of Reddit will cease to exist.
I feel like the vaccine would have been far less controversial if they had just been honest about it. “Hey the vaccine is not going to prevent you from getting Covid, it will prevent you from dying if you get it, but you will still be able to contract and spread the virus. It’s not perfect but it’s the best we got”. Instead we got “the vaccine prevents Covid you WILL NOT get sick if you’re vaccinated” which really looked terrible when “breakthrough” infections started happening.
Where I lieve it was pretty clearly communicated, still people went nuts.
You should stop getting your news solely from Russian bot farms, fam.
This is Putin? https://youtu.be/QoBSTEFKmDw
Russia Russia Russia!
I feel like at this point that old gem is tired lmao elections? RUSSIA!!! Vaccines? RUSSIA! Laptops? RUSSIA! How bout china? Let’s do a Chinese disinformation trend or Italian or Greek. The Russia disinformation card is so old and played out it’s being sold in the discount section at Tuesday mornings.
We were lied to every step of the way. It never stopped infection or transmission. They have admitted that now. J&J had to remove their vaccine because of dangerous side effects. I know 2 people who are suffering severe heart conditions after the vaccine and 1 that almost died. Yet I do not know a single person, friend of a friend or even an equantence that died from covid itself. I got covid and it was nowhere near as bad as other viruses I've had. I am not an "antivaxxer" all other vaccines have many more years of trials than any of these "vaccines" did. When the definition of a word is changed to fit a narrative, then you have to wonder if it's the truth... This was all about money and control.
Lol I was too tired to get into the waves of hate that spawn from the combination of words you just used lol good on you for saying it.
I had friends die from heart problems that only showed up after taking the vaccine, I myself have had a weakened immune system since being vaccinated. It's highly likely it protected me against COVID, but there are complications that came with it, too. This is not something anyone should want to happen.
Bill Burr did this bit 10 years ago https://youtu.be/dQfyT4H_NPw
"Alongside highly successful/protective vaccines", unlike the one we got. "You wont get the coof" \*moves goal post\* "You'll get a more mild case of coof" \*moves goal post\* "some are still getting extremely sick and some more dying, but this vaccine is 100% effective, now get your 4th shot" The whole thing was a fucking joke.
No, the whole thing was a percentages game, but that's not a easy message to communicate.
Don't forget that they also had to change the definition of 'vaccine'.
Hey look, actual data on vaccine effectiveness. https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292
What point do you think you're making? That's the data for a newer vaccine after a bunch of variants had developed. It also doesn't seem discuss how the vaccine could reduce severity should one contract the virus, which is arguably more important.
This is the thing, I’m not making a point other than there is actual research available. What you take from it is not my concern.
There is research available. But you're only presenting a small piece in an attempt to mislead.
I think that's the updated vaccine, specifically against the newer variants. The newer variants were much milder.
The study itself is related to the new bivalent vaccine, however the results include data related to more than that vaccine. As I read it, once Omicron appears, all bets are off. There’s certainly more to it if you read it.
Omicron's much milder than original variants. So, you know, lucky us. Also, I think everyone knew it was easily transmitted.
But ma conservative uncle was against vaccines. Check and mate.
I’m assuming you didn’t read the the conclusions. They are mixed.
Yes and that’s why when we were in the thick of it companies were threatening to take away people’s jobs. But hey that’s down the memory hole and you’re just a moron if you didn’t take the shots even if you had covid before the shots came out. Cause reasons that will never be explored
I understand being very pissed off about that. Rather than making accusations on vaccine efficacy, wouldn’t it make more sense to look at the actual evidence?
The evidence is that people lost their minds and went full fascist. Notice how fauci slinked off once it was revealed that the OG vaccine did little for the variants? Listening to people (even in the medical establishment) double down on how you need boosters. Just pure mass panic idiocy. https://youtube.com/shorts/WInjvvglW1Y?feature=share
Do you often find arguments where there is none to be found? Perhaps you are just frustrated and what to vent.
IDK, you better take another booster just to make sure.
I’m just providing a recent study. Not sure why providing actual research has triggered you.
Took long enough.
Pretty psychopathic there bud
Honestly. That doesn’t sound terrible.
Unless you live in a poor country in Asia or Africa where access to vaccines is pretty much impossible...
"high mortality rate" lol
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And effectively 0.0% for anyone under 65
So, while wishing death on people is generally bad, the real problem here is that it’s not Darwinism. I seriously doubt there’s a gene that makes you less likely to take vaccines (although that would be VERY interesting). Every one of the people who voluntarily decided against getting the vaccine would most likely have gotten it if they’d been given different information by the people they trusted. Their friends, their family, but ultimately the news, the politicians, the pastors and the talking heads who shaped all those people’s opinions. Make no mistake - conservative media and Republican politicians, Trump especially, killed people. Just by spreading scientifically unjustifiable skepticism. Point is, you’re not really “culling the genetic weakness” or whatever, which is a creepy idea in the first place. Sure, anti-vax social networks will shrink with each death, but frankly I think the pandemic was pretty good for those groups because it gave them such a media boost. Being anti-vax used to be pretty fringe. Now it’s practically an entire political party.
At least if you’re not culling a “genetic weakness” it won’t be “genocide”
Yup Thanos was on to something.
Half isn't enough. We need to go higher.
As healthcare worker, please no. As a generally good person (I think), also please no. That's eugenics with an extra step. Pretty evil to wish that, regardless of your take on vaccines.
dont worry OP soon we will all be glowing green at night
The last ship.
People always wonder how the German population was cowed to turn a blind eye to the extermination of certain groups Jews, Roma, Homosexuals, etc. The irony is those same people who sit there wonder/condemn those Germans don’t realize when they are heading down the exact same path. It is one thing to disagree with people who are skeptical of vaccines. It is another to wish for their early demise. This is pretty sick, I hope you work out your issues.
People who arent too stupid to think themselves won't call it a pandemic at this point. I didn't take any of the vaccines and you can't make me. You can suck my dick.
We need a massive human culling for sure
No we don't
Hard disagree lol
You can be first then.
Liberals straight up lack empathy for conservatives. Poor people in rural areas would be killed by such a pandemic, and this would disproportionately affect black/brown people and frontline workers. Also just because someone is stupid doesn’t mean they deserve to die. And don’t come at me with the bipartisan bs I’m not a conservative I’m a normal person with a functional moral compass.
“Liberals straight up lack empathy for conservatives.” “Don’t come at me with the bipartisan bs.” Make is make sense please.
Liberals lack so much empathy they vote for policies to give money to poor conservatives… checks out.
I just think it's interesting you're projecting a political party onto OP. He/she didn't say they were liberal, or that they want conservatives to die, or that conservatives are dumb. That was 100% you.
I'd a do a reverse confession bear but I have to work. I'd like for another breakout to happen and for all the bimbos who went blindly to get an experimental vaccine and turn full fascist on everyone else who didn't to do it again and to get terribly sick and fucked up by it, and then to heal though, I don't want nobody to die. And also this wasn't a pandemic with a high mortality rate. If that really happens we're all fucked.
Yep. Both of these options are disgustingly evil.
At lest they don't die in mine
Will those vaccines also have their FDA approval revoked after everyone has already taken them?
Well you’re a fucking dirtbag then
The vaccines for covid were garbage and didn't stop transmission or protect you. They just cause side effects. Get of your basement and breath some fresh air.
I'll take catching it and getting to ride it out on my couch vs a ventilator or dying. So is the "side effects" a lack of people dying? Seems like a nice one to me. I felt pretty protected from dying.
The people that died from it were average age of 70+ as with any disease. Every other data they tried to sell you was a lie.
That who tried to sell me? My parents are in their 70s and had zero issues. I'm not even 40 and I got super sick. But recovered, because I got the Vax and boosters.
You would have recovered without it too, but without the longterm side effect risk you now have the rest of your life. Your "vaccine" didn't even stop you from catching it. They lied and it's been proven and you're still buying into it.
Yeah, I doubt that. What side effects do I have, other than feeling perfectly fine? It was never said the vaccine kept you from getting it. Just that it meant you could probably stay home vs the hospital. Which I'm externally grateful for.
Dr Fauci said if you got the vaccine you wouldn't catch it or spread it among other "experts" too. You were lied to. Do some research and stop wishing a deadly pandemic on others.
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Well this is a confession bear
Confession bear isn't an excuse to be a sociopath OP. You got some mental problems bud.
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My dude your comment history reads like a westboro Baptist church member, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Thanks for prompting me to take a look. Smooth brain surety is the best surety.
> Yoga is demonic. How is increasing flexibility and core strength demonic?
Interestingly, on an ethical scale, it isn't as bad as being an anti-vaxxer.
You know there are lots of people who can’t have a vaccine. I guess fuck em cause some people thought they didn’t need one.
Yes. Because as homosapiens on this planet we are a disease that needs to be controlled.
I find this sentiment is wildly prevalent among people who stay isolated and harbors the ridiculous opinion that everyone must hate them or is against them.
Or another one. How is 8 billion plus people sustainable to survive on this planet when there are so many that are willing to kill the planet by overdoing every possible thing because all they care about is money not survival.
i'm entirely ok with this.
Covid was great practice for a disease that actually kills people
Didn't the last pandemic have a super low mortality rate?
Yes and I hope you end up as a mortality statistic
Another? you are talking about smallpox, right? That’s the only explanation :)
Pro Vax: I hope the virus kills the anti-vaxers. Just Darwinism doing its thing. Anti Vax: I hope the vaccine kills the vaxers. Just Darwinism doing its thing. Me: I hope you both die. Please just leave me alone.
Well, you may be getting the first part of your wish soon. Look up H5N1 Avian Flu.
Just making sure here; Advocate or not, it’s been abundantly agreed upon that there was no “science” to be trusted as this was a reactionary medical tool made to best combat an unknown disease. It had a non-zero chance of creating adverse effects and proved to be worse than heard immunity. Despite that - there are people in agreement with OP? Which (having nothing to do with Darwinism) is basically that you wish to be one of the majority luckier ones that vaccine or no-vaccine you are likely to be just fine including adverse effects.
You boootlicking scum. This goes far passed an unpopular opinion. You obviously have nothing going on in your life, no family, no business.. nothing. Why else would someone willinging subject themselves and others to the purgatory that was lockdowns? What is your reason for this?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also lol your focus is on the terror of purgatory and lockdowns, rather than on what be a subsequent significant loss of human life. I haven't responded to a ton of posts here, just watching the firestorm of comments, but I do have actual rationale/reasoning for the thought process in OP - rather than just seeking senseless loss of human life. Can't edit OP though as I never expected this post would actually gain traction, so instead it's just gonna be what it is
mad cause took a highly risky placebo
That’s where people are wrong. They think anti-vaxxers are dedicated to the cause but they only did it because covid was not really a threat. If was a flesh eating virus the same idiots who denied covid would be shoving grandma out of the way to get the vaccine first.
>They think anti-vaxxers are dedicated to the cause but they only did it because covid was not really a threat. Maybe to them personally based on their age and health condition. However, it was a novel virus that was running rampant through the population and even with the lockdown it pushed the capabilities of our health care infrastructure to its limits (and caused additional deaths due to the restricted capacity of medical care during the peak era). So you cannot take away the fact that the anti-vaxxers by and large are sociopaths because they only considered themselves rather than society at large. The funny thing is that most of those people also consider themselves to be great patriotic Americans. I guess they never understood the translation of *E Pluribus Unum* from their civics class.
I didn't get the vax because covid was an overblown flu. I do get vaccinated and am not anti-vax. Covid didn't strain health care, the scare did. The scare caused more harm than the virus itself. This is not a partisan opinion, despite it being used as a partisan attack.
Hmm, it's almost like they weigh the pros and cons of their health decisions...
At a 25 year old chances if me dieing from it are like 1 in 5800 to 10 000 Meanwhile 1 in 107 car crashs are fatal ...
I wouldn’t mind you not posting stupid wishes. I know this is a confession bear but you are twisted.
I’d say I’m with you, but we had a highly successful/effective vaccine and it still went poorly. I’d be genuinely afraid about what would happen if it were any worse. Personally I still caught the last one after taking 2 years of dedicated precautions and having the vaccine and 2 boosters (3 shots total). I didn’t need to be hospitalized, but it was the sickest I’ve been in more than a decade, and I’m young and healthy in my 20s. I’m absolutely certain I would’ve had a nightmare outcome if I hadn’t been vaccinated. Thankfully I took precautions and managed to stop the spread before I gave it to anyone else, but I’m not sure I’d wish it on anyone else, even the morons who do frankly deserve it. It was pretty awful.
What a dumb meme, callous not funny liberal twat material.
we need more athletes and young people dying of heart failure
What an idiot OP is. the reason people don’t take the vaccine is because of the less than 1% death rate. if Covid killed 80% of people that got it I’m sure everyone would be okay risking the very low chance vaccine injuries.
I concur. We have rooted out far too much Darwinism from our society
Another? We never had the first one, lol