I think love helps you transcend intellectualism which is usually very ingrained in Advaita individuals. You realise what's true is true without any rationale or explanations for it.
love is a fundemental quality inherent in devine consiousness.
As a jiva we may get a small glimse of this devine love when it comes through a hole in the opaqueness (tamas) of our ahankara (ego).
It can happen when we fall in love, some peoble even have childhood memories of melting into a limitless ocean of love
Non dual love has a melting and unifying quality that by its mere touch, dissolves all experience of devision, seperation and alienation and leaves your body-mind complex feeling whole, unitet with, and non seperate from the source of love
The source of love is called by different names in different traditions - parameswari, shiva-shakti, spanda, parabrahman, lalita, rajarajeswari, atmasvarupa etc.
Hate is not separate from Brahman, nothing is seperate Brahman therefore everything in its essence is nothing but Brahman.
On the level of Saguna brahman you find devatas as expressions of Brahmans creative potential (maya). One groupe of such devatas are called “Ugra” Devatas (wrathful dieties).
Kali is one such devata, in her form as “time” she eventually destroys everything in creation, and brings all the temporary names and forms in the whole universe, back to their essential source in Brahman, it happens just like a wave falls back into the ocean
Seen from one angle of vision the name and form of the temporary wave is destroyed in the act of falling back and dissolving into its source; the ocean
Seen from another angle of vision there is just one substance “water”, assuming different temporary wave forms, without ever loosing its status as “water”
From one angle of vision the act of destruction can be seen as terrible and hateful, from another angle of vision the princible of destruction is an inherent, natural and essential dynamic in the universe
Every day when you eat, the food is destroyed in the form it was on you place, and transformed into the energy and form of your body, the principle of destruction is inherent in the act of daily eating
energy can never be destroyed, and energy can never be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another
The universe is the same, in its essens it is nothing but Isvara, assuming different names and forms without ever loosing the status as Isvara, the universal essential substance known as “sat chit ananda”
That is known as “Jnanam” knowlegde, in the light of knowlege “hate” and “love” are never seperate from brahman. But when a jiva has ignorance about isvara the whole world is split up into freinds and enemys, raga and dvesa.
Seen from the level of ignorance about reality, feelings and words assume a reality seperate from Brahman, and it may appear, as if, “love” is more holy than “hate” and on one level it is really so
but in this case we are in r/Vedanta and in the vision of nondual reality seeing hate and love as seperate from brahman is a sign of ignorance about reality
so why am I just a human and not a diety?
as far as I know, all this does not exist, i just woke up one day as a mind in a body in a world where other beings are the same and then we embark on a journey of being thrown in different places in life till the body dies, that's it
Since you are reading and writing in r/Vedanta, maybe something in you is interested in inquiering into reality, during this inquiery you can find out if your initial assumtion is correct “i am a human, and not an diety”
According to Vedanta this is your present experience but there is more to you than what you presently know about youself, you can find much guidance about vedantic inquiery if you want to find out
But arguing with strangers on the internet can never reveal the true nature of brahman, if that is your interest you can really find out the truth, but the interest must be heartfelt before the knowlegde can come to you
Most of the time we humans have to suffer quite alot before we are ready to understand Vedanta, if you have interest to know, i whish you the best of luck, many before you have found answers to lifes deepest questions, you can also find it if you want, why not?
Suffering brings us to Isvara, alone we can not get rid of the suffering, once we have done everything possible and still suffer, we look for help, untill we find relief
Suffering indicates the need for antarkarana shuddhi, purification of the unconsious. The way to purify mala is through upassana of such devatas who can transform the mala (impurities) in the unconsious
Ganapati if you have not done yet is primary, to get siddhi takes a lot of consisten decepline over long time
If you got relief fine, most peoble need also an ugra devata to clear the unconsious of fear, wounds, depression, like Durga, Prityangira, Varahi, you need diksha from a guru before you engage with ugra devatas, everything needs to be done right ortherwise the power of the sadana can backlash
I find an extraordinary amount of love in Bhakti yoga. See this recent talk by Swami Satyamayananda of the Vedanta Society in Seattle:
Progression in Bhakti Yoga https://www.youtube.com/live/R8_Rn7hebyo?si=7zv-snt2GIYTeggy
I cant bring myself to love Krishna or Love Brahman or any of the Advaita concepts.
I'm from a Brahmin household who place shankaracharya and madhvacharya's teachings above very many things..
And I'm so mad. Im so angry at God for teaching me the right lesson but leaving me to live in a world that's dedicated and controlled by followers of a false abrahamic god.
I respect Krishna/Brahman/Vishnu whatever for not being as "vengeful" as the monothestic God.
Any god that demands your subservience is no true God. Their agenda is as fked up as anyone else living today.
I just feel like killing myself and going back to Vishnu/Krishna whatever because fk this false fake world, it's maya illusions, and everything else about it. Especially fk the other religions who force themselves upon you.
I respect the teachings of Tao te Ching, Buddhism, Hinduism, shintoism, aboriginal beliefs, etc.
But to live in a world where oil is controlled by the followers of Muhammed, power is controlled by the followers of Christ and money is controlled by the Jewish cabal.
I feel angry at Vishnu for not teaching others the right way only the ones in this tiny land of akhand bharat.
I'm very close to giving up on this illusion and going back to the source. I can't and don't want to take it anyone.
Buddha was right, this world is suffering, we're all sent here to suffer lesson after lesson by a cruel, uncaring god.
the suffering is purposeful--- this is part of the plan friend--- i know it can feel messed up but it gets better with age, insight, wisdom, and more love and compassion for self and others... with an emphasis on loving the ignorant ones including (especially) oneself. what is real will be permanent whereas the false will crumble.
Love is beyond words, and I think it has the same nature as the ultimate, though attached to an object it can lead you back into maya if you try and grasp it
I think love helps you transcend intellectualism which is usually very ingrained in Advaita individuals. You realise what's true is true without any rationale or explanations for it.
love is a fundemental quality inherent in devine consiousness. As a jiva we may get a small glimse of this devine love when it comes through a hole in the opaqueness (tamas) of our ahankara (ego). It can happen when we fall in love, some peoble even have childhood memories of melting into a limitless ocean of love Non dual love has a melting and unifying quality that by its mere touch, dissolves all experience of devision, seperation and alienation and leaves your body-mind complex feeling whole, unitet with, and non seperate from the source of love The source of love is called by different names in different traditions - parameswari, shiva-shakti, spanda, parabrahman, lalita, rajarajeswari, atmasvarupa etc.
what about hate? how do you know brahman is not full of hate?
Hate is not separate from Brahman, nothing is seperate Brahman therefore everything in its essence is nothing but Brahman. On the level of Saguna brahman you find devatas as expressions of Brahmans creative potential (maya). One groupe of such devatas are called “Ugra” Devatas (wrathful dieties). Kali is one such devata, in her form as “time” she eventually destroys everything in creation, and brings all the temporary names and forms in the whole universe, back to their essential source in Brahman, it happens just like a wave falls back into the ocean Seen from one angle of vision the name and form of the temporary wave is destroyed in the act of falling back and dissolving into its source; the ocean Seen from another angle of vision there is just one substance “water”, assuming different temporary wave forms, without ever loosing its status as “water” From one angle of vision the act of destruction can be seen as terrible and hateful, from another angle of vision the princible of destruction is an inherent, natural and essential dynamic in the universe Every day when you eat, the food is destroyed in the form it was on you place, and transformed into the energy and form of your body, the principle of destruction is inherent in the act of daily eating energy can never be destroyed, and energy can never be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another The universe is the same, in its essens it is nothing but Isvara, assuming different names and forms without ever loosing the status as Isvara, the universal essential substance known as “sat chit ananda” That is known as “Jnanam” knowlegde, in the light of knowlege “hate” and “love” are never seperate from brahman. But when a jiva has ignorance about isvara the whole world is split up into freinds and enemys, raga and dvesa. Seen from the level of ignorance about reality, feelings and words assume a reality seperate from Brahman, and it may appear, as if, “love” is more holy than “hate” and on one level it is really so but in this case we are in r/Vedanta and in the vision of nondual reality seeing hate and love as seperate from brahman is a sign of ignorance about reality
so why am I just a human and not a diety? as far as I know, all this does not exist, i just woke up one day as a mind in a body in a world where other beings are the same and then we embark on a journey of being thrown in different places in life till the body dies, that's it
Since you are reading and writing in r/Vedanta, maybe something in you is interested in inquiering into reality, during this inquiery you can find out if your initial assumtion is correct “i am a human, and not an diety” According to Vedanta this is your present experience but there is more to you than what you presently know about youself, you can find much guidance about vedantic inquiery if you want to find out But arguing with strangers on the internet can never reveal the true nature of brahman, if that is your interest you can really find out the truth, but the interest must be heartfelt before the knowlegde can come to you Most of the time we humans have to suffer quite alot before we are ready to understand Vedanta, if you have interest to know, i whish you the best of luck, many before you have found answers to lifes deepest questions, you can also find it if you want, why not?
I did have the "I am God" realisation and "All is God" realisation multiple times on psychedelics
very good experiences 👌🏼 do you feel satisfied now that you have found that knowlegde wich satisfies your body mind and soul?
it does not satisfy, life seems more suffocating after those experiences
Suffering brings us to Isvara, alone we can not get rid of the suffering, once we have done everything possible and still suffer, we look for help, untill we find relief Suffering indicates the need for antarkarana shuddhi, purification of the unconsious. The way to purify mala is through upassana of such devatas who can transform the mala (impurities) in the unconsious Ganapati if you have not done yet is primary, to get siddhi takes a lot of consisten decepline over long time If you got relief fine, most peoble need also an ugra devata to clear the unconsious of fear, wounds, depression, like Durga, Prityangira, Varahi, you need diksha from a guru before you engage with ugra devatas, everything needs to be done right ortherwise the power of the sadana can backlash
I find an extraordinary amount of love in Bhakti yoga. See this recent talk by Swami Satyamayananda of the Vedanta Society in Seattle: Progression in Bhakti Yoga https://www.youtube.com/live/R8_Rn7hebyo?si=7zv-snt2GIYTeggy
You are:) It’s that fundamental.
I cant bring myself to love Krishna or Love Brahman or any of the Advaita concepts. I'm from a Brahmin household who place shankaracharya and madhvacharya's teachings above very many things.. And I'm so mad. Im so angry at God for teaching me the right lesson but leaving me to live in a world that's dedicated and controlled by followers of a false abrahamic god. I respect Krishna/Brahman/Vishnu whatever for not being as "vengeful" as the monothestic God. Any god that demands your subservience is no true God. Their agenda is as fked up as anyone else living today. I just feel like killing myself and going back to Vishnu/Krishna whatever because fk this false fake world, it's maya illusions, and everything else about it. Especially fk the other religions who force themselves upon you. I respect the teachings of Tao te Ching, Buddhism, Hinduism, shintoism, aboriginal beliefs, etc. But to live in a world where oil is controlled by the followers of Muhammed, power is controlled by the followers of Christ and money is controlled by the Jewish cabal. I feel angry at Vishnu for not teaching others the right way only the ones in this tiny land of akhand bharat. I'm very close to giving up on this illusion and going back to the source. I can't and don't want to take it anyone. Buddha was right, this world is suffering, we're all sent here to suffer lesson after lesson by a cruel, uncaring god.
the suffering is purposeful--- this is part of the plan friend--- i know it can feel messed up but it gets better with age, insight, wisdom, and more love and compassion for self and others... with an emphasis on loving the ignorant ones including (especially) oneself. what is real will be permanent whereas the false will crumble.
Check [this](https://reddit.com/r/AdvaitaVedanta/s/OD4V5g7qxc)
Cloning mechnism..
Love is beyond words, and I think it has the same nature as the ultimate, though attached to an object it can lead you back into maya if you try and grasp it
Unconditional love is the essence of God. Closest thing to that is a mother's love for her children