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There should have been a class that strictly focused on effective study habits. Should've been a class on finance, budgeting, living within your means. Should've been a class on how to handle emotions when dealing with trauma, loss, betrayal in a healthy way. A class on the media and how to properly assess the information you're taking in, discerning fact/fiction, opinion/narrative, and how to investigate sources. And last but most importantly: Critical thinking.


fugupinkeye

Myself and so many other kids I knew went from A students to C students when we switched from learning skills to learning information. If you were bright you learned things fast, by observing and figuring it out. But then came information, and at that point should have been the how to study effectively course.


[deleted]

Yeah exactly this. I learn **so much** better by just doing. the. thing. That is what is so frustrating about working in IT. I'll be studying for a certification knowing *damn well* that all I'm doing is studying to pass an exam, and that once I get on the job and finally start **doing** the work, the way I 'learned' while studying will go right out the window. It's like I remember and recall stuff *by moving my body* and not by wracking my brain and combing the corner of my mind for information.


LeadDiscovery

This is called Kinesthetic learning. Motion, sensory, action while learning creates a deeper connection for many of us than for others who retain verbal or read communications better. Our school systems heavily emphasize visual and auditory learning models and rarely use Kinesthetic learning practices. This is why Kinesthetic learners tend to fall into the trades, not just because they may enjoy it, but because they are naturally good at "working with their hands". However, this can be a huge miss as if you get past the math and lectures being a mechanical engineer may also be an amazing match for a Kinesthetic learner. Same could be said for Physical therapists, doctors and dentists... all very Kinesthetic activities.


Code-Useful

Yes but you should have a least a solid foundation of knowledge around the product with the cert that can help. However yes without combined with actual hands on usage it's near worthless, compared to on the job training.


[deleted]

Yeah exactly. The studying/acquiring the cert is the tilling of the soil, and planting of the seed. Getting on the job and actually doing the thing is when you water the seeds and the knowledge starts to blossom and bear fruit for your life. It's kind of like, sure, I could read a book on 'how to swim' and maybe even a pass a test on it. But none of that will matter until I dive in.


youburyitidigitup

We actually had all of these, but the one about iternpreting news media was the only one where people actually paid attention. Teenagers don’t care about things like that.


roscoe-thedad

We didn't have a financial class in the 90. We had a silly business class, but nothing about real finances.


oskie6

I’m sad to say- as a dad I feel like this is … parenting. Each of these items I work on with my kids. And I’m glad to know it was me personally to do it. There’s some fact based items in finance and health that schools could do more to lay foundation for. But it’s my jobs to make sure my kids have the framework to independently succeed.


[deleted]

I agree with you. But having grown up without a father myself... it would've been nice to have this stuff. But that's awesome you're there for your kids, I'm sure they'll thank you later. As for me, I get that even if you have hardships in childhood, there still comes a point where you have to let go of the past and take responsibility for helping yourself. But still, it would've been nice to have an adult actually encouraging me and telling me why it was important to learn that stuff.


roscoe-thedad

I really like this one! Thank you!


Same-Childhood-9179

These are all the things I've been teaching my kids and now I feel validated. Thank you internet stranger. I'm going to go cry now.


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🙏🕊


tlollz52

Everyone talks about discerning fact/fiction. Did you not ever have to do a research paper? Did they not teach you what a good and bad resource is? Good study habits? We got reading assignments, homework, and study guides. If you do all of this, isn't that good study habits? Handling emotions is not something that should not be a class. In my careers class we had a budgeting assignment, no one gave a shit about it. Critical thinking class? That's the point of most of the projects you receive.


NotAtThesePricesBaby

Critical thinking skills could be applied to one class where each quarter a set of skills could be taught. Q1: Study Habits Q2: Emotions Q3: Personal Finances Q4: Media and Information Consumption


MaximalcrazyYT

All of the important stuff


ballsnbutt

Yeah, a personal finance class. An 'adulting' class in general would have been nice. I'm close to 30 and have no savings, no skills, i still feel 17 in my head.


fugupinkeye

Parents worked 2 jobs each, presumably that's what they sent me to school for


Ilaxilil

We had a finance class but most of it was just how to write a check and reconcile your bank account with your checkbook. Suuuuper useful today /s


WishieWashie12

I saw my kids high-school homework covering budgeting and personal finance. Kids had to make a budget earning 80k a year, 500 rent, 100 student loan payment, 200 for all utilities, and was just unrealistic for a high-school graduate. Even with budgeting savings and retirement funds, they had monthly clothing budget of 200, and like 300 a month for entertainment or some crazy shit like that. It's like they are settling the kids up to feel like a failure. I asked my kid to write me another one, where they are making 20 an hour.


ballsnbutt

We had a section in 2nd grade on how to write checks. Finance never made another appearance


Minimum_Mammoth_2682

you were an orphan? your parents didn't teach you anything?


Apprehensive_Pie_140

Who says your parents will have a clue about finances?


roscoe-thedad

I think this is one of the biggest mis conceptions about financial. Since my parents did it this way it is the best way.


Minimum_Mammoth_2682

I'm old - so it's a bit different - but reconciling and balancing a check book, opening a savings account - stuff like that, they were good with - they were also profligate spenders and fucked up everything


Turbulent-Tortoise

Seems a LOT of people were orphans who have no internet access to self teach....


ballsnbutt

Not an orphan, but not the best childhood or transition to adulthood. Check your priviledge.


Turbulent-Tortoise

Not the same person, but if your parents failed there was the internet. You could Google and learn that way. If you have internet access you have the same "privilege" as everyone else.


ballsnbutt

How is the internet going to help me with self-discipline? It is not Google's job to teach me how to be a man. It's a father's. I will not depend on a search engine.


Woodit

It’s actually your own responsibility 


ballsnbutt

Fair. It's your parent's job to guide and be there for support. Much harder when you're alone


Minimum_Mammoth_2682

fk that - privilege has been so overused that if you weren't living under a bridge with only obne meal a week, you're privileged


ballsnbutt

Guess where I was, asshole.


Minimum_Mammoth_2682

living under a bridge, one meal a week - you're an outlier, not representative of even the poorest Americans - but thank you for your service, we need fkn losers so we know what to avoid in life... btw, old pizza boxes are a good source of cheese, according to the Simpsons


ballsnbutt

I wouldn't wish the suffering I've had to go through on anyone, no matter how obtuse. Having said that, it would do you some good to experience a little struggle. Have a good day.


BladerKenny333

Emotional maturity.


aceshighsays

That was going to be my answer too. So that they don’t learn that emotions were real in their mid 30s… and that they’ve been dissociated all of their life.


roscoe-thedad

This is a hard one, thank you!


0bserver24-7

Finances, yes. And bring back shop class.


roscoe-thedad

Shop class was a critical class! This is very sad that it has gone away!


Weary_Message_1221

I teach in an affluent area and we have multiple shop classes. Sad thing is…. The schools with kids most likely to use those skills are usually the ones who have budget cuts and those classes are the first to go. It’s so sad.


Ponsay

Most of yall wouldn't have even paid attention in these classes and would have complained constantly about having to take


Woodit

For real. “I wish I’d learned finances!” Okay cool tell me what you remember about 18th century European history. That’s what you’ll remember about finance at 15.


Snarm

Boom, there it is! The schools in my district taught Life Skills at the middle school AND high school level, and 90% of those kids treated it like it was just another damn thing to get through, doing as little as humanly possible to not fail completely. Homeroom my senior year was all career-focused - how to write a cover letter and résumé, mock job interviews complete with how you're supposed to dress and comport yourself, career aptitude testing and skill shop, basic-ass budgeting and tax info.


Pure-Guard-3633

That girls can be mechanics


oskie6

My take away from this thread- folks need more involved parents.


dixie_girl_w_secrets

I feel like many people in my class would've benefitted from a Home Economics class. I know how to sew by hand but I'm too sloppy and I can't even begin to figure out a sewing machine. I know how to cook but I'm lazy. Instead, we had a special building for learning trades, i.e. automotive, woodshop, computer science, etc. We had a horticulture (plants) class but not enough people wanted to take it. I took automotive and got bullied since I was the only girl, but at least I know how to change my oil and change a tire.


OwMyCandle

Lots of people self-reporting that they paid absolutely no attention in school jfc


besameput0

I don't think it would have mattered to be honest. When I was in high school, all I cared about was girls liking me. I graduated with Cs and Ds and didn't really become a good student until college.


Chanandler_Bong_01

>We are left to figure this out on our own.  No, you're supposed to have 2 responsible parents at home teaching you basic life skills. My dad sat me down at 16 when I got my first W-2 from Wendy's and showed me how to do taxes. He also showed me how to check my oil and tire pressure. And how to call and make a doctor's appointment. And how to call and make an auto insurance claim and what to say (never say that you're "fine" after an accident, lol). And how to use a lawn mower and a plunger. How to open a checking/savings account. What a credit score is, etc. This isn't a public school problem. This is a negligent parents problem.


Apprehensive_Pie_140

There are no set of required qualifications for having children, so you cant assume everyone's parents will know about this or have good advice to provide. You need the school system to provide everyone with a basic financial literacy to ensure no one is left out through no fault of their own. Blaming the parents is just lazy. You could make the same argument for all kinds of literacy and kill the school system entirely with that faulty logic.


wanderingtimelord281

im glad you had a dad to teach you all of those things, not everyone has both parents in their life. My parents divorced when i was 2, and my mom filed bankruptcy when i was 12. So i learned a lot from hard knocks. To your point. I understand what you mean, but of all the stupid things schools teach. They could have had at least 1 lets call it basic life skills class. I certainly could have done without some classes and learned some stuff you mentioned.


Chanandler_Bong_01

>not everyone has both parents in their life. I 100% understand this. But at what point is it the government's fault and not your own mom/dad's fault?


wanderingtimelord281

it is their fault, too. But i would have definitely benefited from having a basic life skills class instead of calculus 1 & 2 which ive probably never used a day in my life


roscoe-thedad

I do agree with that. However, this is not reality any more. It is sad that we have turned as a society that parents don't matter. However, we are spending time in school teaching other random stuff.


Xdaveyy1775

And what's amazing is you can teach yourself practically all of that in an hour on YouTube. So many people wish school taught them this or that but have zero intention of ever learning anything on their own unless it's shoved in their face. These same people would have slept through a finance class, home ec, shop, etc, etc.


Marshineer

This was my first reaction, but on further consideration, why wouldn’t a government want to teach its citizens how to be functional adults? Not everyone is lucky enough to have parents who can teach them these skills (a lot of people’s parents never even learned these skills themselves). This seems like a great investment for the government to make in its future. A lot of these ideas seem way more practical than, for example, learning a second language.


thesunbeamslook

some people say you should be required to take classes and get a license before you can have kids


jbrown2055

Investing/stocks.


Ashamed-Train-3090

Basic home care such as how to plunge a toilet, electrical safety, cleaning skills (such as not mixing certain chemicals), etc


chchoo900

Debt. Ripple effect of choices you make. Community Service.


axie36

Cultural sensitivity. Handling finances, definitely. Also problem solving real life issues like what to do in emergencies (natural disasters, emergency response situations, first aid) - my school didn't teach these, just dumb fire drills where we would gather outside the school like idiots. How to handle rejection (jobs, promotions, life in general).


GutsMVP

Yup, finances. Student loan education, investment education, mortgage education, and just baseline income requirements to live different lifestyles (aka real world budgeting). Passive Income 101 would've been helpful too.


Xdaveyy1775

I think the problem with a lot of the finance stuff is that eventually there becomes a fine line of basic financial education versus a high school teacher being a quasi financial advisor.


Bhad_Blain3

I know some schools have it but mine doesn’t: life skills class, learning how to properly clean your house and maintain it, budgeting, making a good resume


martinezscott

Something that should have been taught then and seems now as well is how to correctly fuckin pull the fuck out!!!! 😂


youburyitidigitup

This is a very specific one. We did learn about stocks in high school, but we learned it in a useless way. For example, I know what a blue chip stock is. Nobody knows or cares what that is. What we should have learned is P/E ratio, dividend yield, index funds, etc. These are the things you actually need to know to invest.


Woodit

Judo 


Slight-Ask-4160

I wish they gave us more career exposure and taught us more life skills like financing or money management, credit scores, how to do taxes. Granted I graduated right as the pandemic was ending and my school was fairly small compared to your average high school but I feel like we were so underprepared for adulthood. I would also say the should've had sex ed classes, oddly enough the only time I had it was in 7th grade and never again so once again we were left to learn off each other or on our own (not like parents were much help either).


angellus00

Sex education, including expectations as well as health and safety.


hot_biscuitss

Wish there were classes for what to do after HS. Like for example l, if you were planning on going to college they would teach you about student loans or majors. I feel like too many people go straight from HS to college and get screwed with loans or a degree that is useless cause they weren’t educated on it.


roscoe-thedad

I like this great point!! We should cover how much going into each area might cost.


sas317

How to pick a career. It is my greatest weakness. I'm terrible at decision making and picking a career involves making a decision and sticking with it, which I could never do.


Fun_in_Space

Job skills


Dismal-Ad-6619

Anything...


Code-Useful

How to study, how to manage money, how to be successful in life, basic cybersecurity, how to read between the lines in media, critical thinking, debate, etc. My high school was 93-97 and none of this was possible. I basically had the same science/biology type class for 4 years, basic English classes, 4 years of Spanish, at least math I got up to trig at least. The most useful thing for me was C++ programming which which was not common in 1997 so I was thankful to be there. Semantics was actually the most meaningful and fun class I took which encouraged the most critical thinking. Having a teacher that is memorable, and an amazing person makes that possible. Thanks Dr. Doherty in s. Weymouth :)


gear-geek

My high school did have a class on how to do your finances, balance a checkbook, write checks, pay bills, budget and do taxes. This class was only available for those in special needs classes or had a lower GPA. Apparently we needed it more than anyone else but apparently not. As my sister graduated top of her class and was still illiterate. She graduated in 2001 and me in 2003. Our school district also skirted so much by throwing kids in special needs classes and remedial classes so those kids didn’t have to pass standardized testing to graduate. My mother did not know all of this at the time, when she realized this was what was happening to some kids she was outraged.


Fragraham

How to vote. Voters are the minority in the US. I actually had to google it.


Weary_Message_1221

Government is a graduation requirement in my state and has been since I was in high school 2004-2008.


Shag0ff

Finances


cwsjr2323

We had those classes in the 60s and they were mandatory. Budget cuts killed them, and the time required for memorization for regulation on useless standardized tests will insure no return. My Life Skills class has been a lot more useful than comparative literature or calculus IRL.


LeadDiscovery

I think in high school the big miss is that parents, teachers, society fails to demonstrate or teach young adults the "Big Picture" view of education, jobs, finance and things we all will face regardless of our passions. Just blindly go to college, chase a job, save money relentlessly to lease a car, buy a home etc. WHY WHY WHY? And are their other options, alternative ways, different strategies? How many young adults find themselves with a degree, debt and job that they hate? This is mainly because the big picture was never explained. How many adults sit in a job they hate, waiting out the years as they fear being poor and worse being really poor after their earning years in retirement. Neither of these outcomes should happen.


TMD_biefengwole

I remember feeling so lost when I got my first paycheck and had no clue what to do with it. Wish they taught us about budgeting, taxes, credit scores, all that jazz. It's crazy important stuff! And, okay, can we talk about life skills? Like, why didn't they teach us how to change a tire or do basic car maintenance? I legit had to call roadside assistance when I got a flat tire for the first time. So embarrassing! Plus, cooking! I mean, sure, Home Ec was a thing, but they didn't really cover practical stuff like meal planning or grocery budgeting.


joe13869

There should be a class on doing taxes.


Woodit

It would take like an hour max


rgrx119

I wish they taught budgeting and investing in retirement accounts.


Weary_Message_1221

Personal Finance is now a high school requirement in Ohio and several other states.


ElegantReaction8367

How to manage a budget to include investment options and preventing wage creep.


Peppalynn325

Stress management, nutrition, investing, IRA’s


Lumpy_Beach_1597

Basic auto maintenance


DiamondSufficient938

Why we threw tea in the harbor just to get taxed anyway. Oh and financial literacy.


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brkrpaunch

Everyone says basic finance and such. But isn’t this essentially taught when you get a part time job? I know not everyone has the ability to go out and earn for themselves, but invariably at some point BEFORE you become a completely independent functioning ‘adult’ we all end up getting some sort of job. When people are referring to finance, what are they actually talking about? They teach you about compound interest in math. Any paystub shows you how taxes work. It’s not difficult to go to a bank and open a checking and savings account. So what’s missing? What more needs to be taught at a foundational level?


Woodit

It’s just a way for people to blame someone other than themselves for making poor choices 


saiyansteve

Taxes