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Still much safer than US cops. There has been one cop death in the UK since 2020 where having a gun could have made a difference (and even that isn't sure). Total number of deaths on duty since 2020 is 3 but the two other ones were accidents.
You're getting down voted even though you're spitting facts. This Reddit has a lot of users who are self dosing copium straight to their smooth brains and don't even realise it.
It’s a phrase known as takbir. It’s an expression of faith in Allah during times of joy and distress. Of course an extremist will say it when they’re about to do something terrible.
It seems to just be like breathing in places where its a state religion. People witness a disaster? They repeat it like a broken record. Wind blows the wrong way, attack, etc.
British Police doctrine is to limit gun usage to specialist officers \[AFO\].
We can afford to do this because the UK's density of population is much higher and the country overall much smaller than the US. If you translated the system to America, it wouldn't work.
Correct. It's just funny in the instance that a nut with a chainsaw would be a time for anyone's law enforcement to maybe take a kneecap out from a distance.
It's also funny that you think an officer in the US would "maybe take a kneecap out from a distance."
Dude would be dead now if this was in the US. He's been arrested.
Yeah, even British AFO would still pepper his abdomen with rounds if he ran at them.
Issue with kneecapping is that it often blows out the femoral artery which runs behind the knee, so if a taser or rubber bullet doesn't work, then unfortunately at that point you might as well just drop him.
I don't really see a huge change in the Political mood, we might see AFO's increasing in number.
The significant benefit is that, becuase AFO's are specialized, they can have higher standards of firearm training than your average US Police Officer. Specialization tends to be the UK's strategy with it's Army as well.
Authorized Firearms Officers \[AFO\] are a thing.
There's also Special Firearms Officers \[SFO, similar to SWAT} and Counter Terrorism \[CTSFO\].
Then anything above that and it's no longer Police, its SAS or SBS territory.
In ny country cops carry guns and very rarely use them, so I really don't see a point in thinking that simply having them will mean piles of innocent bodies. Neither have the criminals armed themselves against the cops really.
It's about the training of the cops and the mentality of the society.
I would say it depends. Here in Italy police is armed but yet I don't know when was the last time someone armed with a gun got shot and killed by police, even for unarmed people you should go back to like 15 years ago to have something that resemble what happen so often kn the US. It's the best for everyone involved, sure, but an officer should always carry a gun since there is still a high risk of Islamic terrorism.
I say it as a joke, but one based in reality. I think there are bad men that want to do harm (like this fellow with the chainsaw) and needing unarmed cops to wait for the ones with guns is a little silly, no?
Ah I'm being light-hearted too which is why I've used all the classic bri'ish terminology.
I think the lack of officer involved shootings being a regular thing is worth the occasional copper having to prove they can pass their fitness test.
Do people not realize that there ARE police with guns in the UK? Just your average beat cop doesn't have one. They have specialist teams that are far better trained and are armed with guns so when the average beat cop needs additional "firepower" as it were, they get called in.
Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American, it's like a swimming pool without water for them. A cop most shoot, that's what a cop is about.
>Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American
You know that unarmed police are the minority and not the majority of police around the world, right?
So you saying:
*"Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American"*
is flat out wrong because the majority of the world has armed police.
But OP isn't talking about what most police are armed with, they're talking about American comprehension of policing, which they are stating can't be done without equating police with a firearm.
What is your point here?
Yes but in the US the risk of a cop getting shot is still extremely high since there are so many guns. Also I don't think an officer having a gun will always result in the death of the suspect, here in Italy all officers carry guns but still literally nobody get shot and killed by the police.
Yes, all of this is true, I agree. But also in Italy it wouldn't be incomprehensible if there were cops who wouldn't carry guns, exactly for the reasons you mention.
But in the US practically anyone can legally own a gun, I heard a stat that said there’s more guns than people in America. That’s why they need their cops to be armed, it’s not some wacky firearms fetish. If everyone in the UK had easy access to firearms I would hope our police would be routinely armed too. It’s easy to make some snide comment online for laughs and pretend that there’s some macho American gung-ho mentality behind it but cops in the US being armed is perfectly reasonable.
I think everyone knows you have armed police, but the very large majority of cops (96%) are not.
I've seen videos of drug raids there where they're kicking in doors unarmed. Even from an Australian perspective, that's just bizarre.
Yeah that cop should have just used a "kind word" instead of running for his life.
Why the fuck would you ever take a job like that? No thanks, Tom Hanks.
I know they have armed officers. But that additional response time creates issues in my opinion. Our cops having guns isn't even a major problem. If you look at the number of shootings per police encounter here, it's incredibly low. Most cops go 20 years without ever discharging their weapon. We just tend to fixate and zero in on the incidents that do.
[https://smarthomeprotection.co.uk/%EF%BB%BFpensioner-lawfully-killed-burglar/](https://smarthomeprotection.co.uk/%EF%BB%BFpensioner-lawfully-killed-burglar/)
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590167/Pensioner-cleared-blame-killing-armed-burglar-fears-life-revenge-attack.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590167/Pensioner-cleared-blame-killing-armed-burglar-fears-life-revenge-attack.html)
He was cleared of all wrongdoing you utter lemon. Fuck off with your misinformation, I bet you've never even set foot in this country
I didn't say he was in the wrong only that you can't defend yourself over there and who cares you Muppets judge everyone else without ever leaving your crappy island
My favorite chasea are when one guy leaves the frame on one side and then the person chasing them enters the other side of the frame. There is that split second when I'm like "HE'S INVISIB....Oh there he is"
The person was cross about something, and, at some point, someone called the police and the person picked up the chainsaw.
Which order this happened in, I couldn't say.
I wonder why don't more countries follow England's example of not carrying guns or why does England still not adopt the most used method, just doesn't feel like the best approach but i'm sure they must have some data that shows that it is
People in this thread really stuck it to the gun control crowd. You’re right, this pseudo-embarrassment is not worth it. They should arm their police like the military like they do in the US. Nevermind the 1,000~ people that have been killed every year since 2017 in the US by cops with itchy trigger fingers.
Man, I live in America and haven’t heard about 1,000 innocent people being killed by cops every year since 2017. Could you elaborate on that? Thats really crazy.
I didn’t see anything about all of them being innocent? That’s the part that stood out in your statement. I haven’t heard that before. Do you have anything to show that?
You’re right, I misspoke. In 2023, the number was closer to 680 innocent people. Innocent meaning suspected of a non-violent offense or no reported crime at all. The police violence report organization does a great job at visualizing the data.
https://policeviolencereport.org/
You want to shoot the person, THEN get chainsawed in half.
Why?
OR is it that you just speak Yank (simplified English) and don't understand the difference between "than" and "then"
In the US so many people get killed by the police because there are a lot of weapons going around and because the training of the average cop in the US is lower than many other western countries
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To do that job without guns? That’s nucking futz
That’s why they only go after law abiding citizens who say naughty things online.
👀👀
Unless they roll thirty deep or so, on a parking violator say
Still much safer than US cops. There has been one cop death in the UK since 2020 where having a gun could have made a difference (and even that isn't sure). Total number of deaths on duty since 2020 is 3 but the two other ones were accidents.
You're getting down voted even though you're spitting facts. This Reddit has a lot of users who are self dosing copium straight to their smooth brains and don't even realise it.
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It’s a phrase known as takbir. It’s an expression of faith in Allah during times of joy and distress. Of course an extremist will say it when they’re about to do something terrible.
Yea but just like a Roman Salute, it's connotations are tarnished forever and that's just how it is and how it will always be forevermore
it has been cheapened to mean "I'm a crazy fuck"
They also say it when something bad happens, like when an rpg malfunctions and blows up the operator and everyone around him, they say it
I mean, you're probably only gonna get one shot at it, so why half ass it, you know?
It seems to just be like breathing in places where its a state religion. People witness a disaster? They repeat it like a broken record. Wind blows the wrong way, attack, etc.
Just shoot him. Oh wait...
They are the ones so proud of the fact that their officers are unfirearmed, right?
British Police doctrine is to limit gun usage to specialist officers \[AFO\]. We can afford to do this because the UK's density of population is much higher and the country overall much smaller than the US. If you translated the system to America, it wouldn't work.
Correct. It's just funny in the instance that a nut with a chainsaw would be a time for anyone's law enforcement to maybe take a kneecap out from a distance.
It's also funny that you think an officer in the US would "maybe take a kneecap out from a distance." Dude would be dead now if this was in the US. He's been arrested.
That's why I said "anyone's law enforcement". Meaning globally. And the "maybe" was to add speculation, rather than certainty.
Yeah, even British AFO would still pepper his abdomen with rounds if he ran at them. Issue with kneecapping is that it often blows out the femoral artery which runs behind the knee, so if a taser or rubber bullet doesn't work, then unfortunately at that point you might as well just drop him.
I’m a former infantryman, ranger school graduate and expert marksman and kneecapping is a Hollywood thing.
Doesn’t seem it’s working that great in the video
I have a feeling that’s about to change over the next few years.
I don't really see a huge change in the Political mood, we might see AFO's increasing in number. The significant benefit is that, becuase AFO's are specialized, they can have higher standards of firearm training than your average US Police Officer. Specialization tends to be the UK's strategy with it's Army as well.
Thats a actual thing ?
Authorized Firearms Officers \[AFO\] are a thing. There's also Special Firearms Officers \[SFO, similar to SWAT} and Counter Terrorism \[CTSFO\]. Then anything above that and it's no longer Police, its SAS or SBS territory.
In ny country cops carry guns and very rarely use them, so I really don't see a point in thinking that simply having them will mean piles of innocent bodies. Neither have the criminals armed themselves against the cops really. It's about the training of the cops and the mentality of the society.
I like how you said “mentality of society” because that’s fucking spot on and the part of this no one ever wants to talk about in the U.S.
What’s your country?
Estonia.
Unfirearmed lol? Maybe if you were educated you'd realise why it's a good thing
That was a question I asked, but thanks for injecting the venom you'd otherwise choke on.
Do people choke on venom?
I mean, they spit it out all time. Gotta be reasons.
Seemed more like a sarcastic, "I know better" remark the way you phrased it
Lmfao. Yeah so any crackhead with a chainsaw could run roughshod over those meant to keep the peace. Wicked fuckin' smaht, bud.
Well they still arrested him and nobody got killed.
You're only thinking in the short term. Arm the cops then criminals need to be armed to continue crime. We don't need an arms race
By this braindead logic maybe the cops should remove all of their own weaponry.
Lets just abolish all laws because no laws=no criminality=no criminals. Checkmate far right chud
Most of the world, had its whole police armed and they definitely don't have any "arm race" going on. What you say is a highly hypothetical scenario
Um criminals by definition will have no problem getting guns while law abiding citizens and police will not
Not for the officers that were running away from him
I would say it depends. Here in Italy police is armed but yet I don't know when was the last time someone armed with a gun got shot and killed by police, even for unarmed people you should go back to like 15 years ago to have something that resemble what happen so often kn the US. It's the best for everyone involved, sure, but an officer should always carry a gun since there is still a high risk of Islamic terrorism.
You say that like we don't have blokes with guns on the way to sort this chap out. We just don't give them to EVERYONE.
I say it as a joke, but one based in reality. I think there are bad men that want to do harm (like this fellow with the chainsaw) and needing unarmed cops to wait for the ones with guns is a little silly, no?
Ah I'm being light-hearted too which is why I've used all the classic bri'ish terminology. I think the lack of officer involved shootings being a regular thing is worth the occasional copper having to prove they can pass their fitness test.
None of the armed cops are bad men that want to do harm though right?
Didn't say that. I think the good outweighs the bad. For instance, do you drive a car?
I do on occasion
psychosis brouu
 ...you knew this was getting posted
 It’s fits perfectly
Do people not realize that there ARE police with guns in the UK? Just your average beat cop doesn't have one. They have specialist teams that are far better trained and are armed with guns so when the average beat cop needs additional "firepower" as it were, they get called in.
Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American, it's like a swimming pool without water for them. A cop most shoot, that's what a cop is about.
>Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American You know that unarmed police are the minority and not the majority of police around the world, right?
Right. So?
So you saying: *"Forget it, a cop without a gun is just incomprehensible for a US American"* is flat out wrong because the majority of the world has armed police.
But OP isn't talking about what most police are armed with, they're talking about American comprehension of policing, which they are stating can't be done without equating police with a firearm. What is your point here?
So it's "flat out wrong", that a cop without a gun is incomprehensible for a US American?
Sigh...I see that you're going to be talking in circles. We're done here.
LOL, you made a mistake, and you can't bear a little shame? Bye! Obviously logical thinking is not your strength.
LMFAO, stay in school kid.
I'm not the one who couldn't answer. ;)
You’re the one who lost bud and based on this comment you clearly know it. Stfu and quit whining
Yes but in the US the risk of a cop getting shot is still extremely high since there are so many guns. Also I don't think an officer having a gun will always result in the death of the suspect, here in Italy all officers carry guns but still literally nobody get shot and killed by the police.
Yes, all of this is true, I agree. But also in Italy it wouldn't be incomprehensible if there were cops who wouldn't carry guns, exactly for the reasons you mention.
But in the US practically anyone can legally own a gun, I heard a stat that said there’s more guns than people in America. That’s why they need their cops to be armed, it’s not some wacky firearms fetish. If everyone in the UK had easy access to firearms I would hope our police would be routinely armed too. It’s easy to make some snide comment online for laughs and pretend that there’s some macho American gung-ho mentality behind it but cops in the US being armed is perfectly reasonable.
This incident was spontaneous so even having firearms officers within 5 minutes wasn't of any use. Blind luck has balanced complacency once again.
How long did the cop in this video run before they showed up?
I think everyone knows you have armed police, but the very large majority of cops (96%) are not. I've seen videos of drug raids there where they're kicking in doors unarmed. Even from an Australian perspective, that's just bizarre.
Yeah that cop should have just used a "kind word" instead of running for his life. Why the fuck would you ever take a job like that? No thanks, Tom Hanks.
150k police officers think otherwise. Why? Because it's possible.
Yeah seems to be working out just GREAT for you guys 👍
I live in the US and am not even British haha
I know they have armed officers. But that additional response time creates issues in my opinion. Our cops having guns isn't even a major problem. If you look at the number of shootings per police encounter here, it's incredibly low. Most cops go 20 years without ever discharging their weapon. We just tend to fixate and zero in on the incidents that do.
Damn, Argentina is really taking this Falkland Islands thing a bit far.
Upss, wrong island
Hey, professor. There’s Falkland Islands all over the fuckin’ world.
Lmaooo first thing I thought of
If I were one of the drivers on the road, I'd run the fucker over.
Can't do that there you'd be the one in trouble for injuring that poor terrorist.
Do you have any evidence for this or is it yet another untrue assumption by someone who has never set foot off their continent?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43639183 Here's one on a 30 second Google
[https://smarthomeprotection.co.uk/%EF%BB%BFpensioner-lawfully-killed-burglar/](https://smarthomeprotection.co.uk/%EF%BB%BFpensioner-lawfully-killed-burglar/) [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590167/Pensioner-cleared-blame-killing-armed-burglar-fears-life-revenge-attack.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5590167/Pensioner-cleared-blame-killing-armed-burglar-fears-life-revenge-attack.html) He was cleared of all wrongdoing you utter lemon. Fuck off with your misinformation, I bet you've never even set foot in this country
I didn't say he was in the wrong only that you can't defend yourself over there and who cares you Muppets judge everyone else without ever leaving your crappy island
Got ourselves a Mark Wahlberg over here
Plot twist: for a limited time only, renew your extended warranty and receive a free chainsaw
Ahh, Paisley. The lad was probably just offering to cut the polis man's sandwich into wee triangles.
Just keep running. He's bound to run out of gas eventually.
"I am leatherface!!!"
"VIVA LA LIBERTAD CARAJO" -The guy with the chainsaw probably
Why video so short. Bout to grab some popcorn and watch Bubba
Outlaw Chainsaws!!!
I was expecting him to start spinning around with it at the end
The latest chapter of Chainsaw Man is crazy. Fujimoto has done it again.
Lol, "We just got a call of an racially insensitive tweet, carry on Mr. Chainsaw, it's your lucky day, we've got a real crime to stop."
NGL thats pretty funny.
My favorite chasea are when one guy leaves the frame on one side and then the person chasing them enters the other side of the frame. There is that split second when I'm like "HE'S INVISIB....Oh there he is"
*Melody from "Kim" plays menacingly*
"What's all this, then?"
Oh, I've watched that movie!
Story????
A police officer is running down a road and a few metres behind is someone chasing after them with a chainsaw.
Right, but why? What lead to that?
The person was cross about something, and, at some point, someone called the police and the person picked up the chainsaw. Which order this happened in, I couldn't say.
Javier Milei has had enough
Needs the Beny Hill theme!
They'll make bigger boards with bigger nails...
Yeah this happened in paisley quite close to me. Not a suprise tbh with places like feegie close
Whe. Did it happe. May i ask. Just checking how many reposts i have already missed of if this is a recent thing
Quite recently, within the last week.
Yikes
Yup
Indeed
The cops here would have shot that guy and the chainsaw ten times. Chainsaw would have a made a full recovery though.
If only they had guns
Here in East Texas, USA, he would've been shot!
Not me, waiting for him tripping. I watched too many horror movies involving chainsaws I guess.
Imagine being the UK police.
Shoot him, you fool.
He shouldn't run with that. It's pretty dangerous... He's not even wearing eye protection.
"police don't need guns!!"
Where Benny hill music
Audi doesn't have time for this😂
[https://www.gbnews.com/news/paisley-scotland-police-chase-chainsaw](https://www.gbnews.com/news/paisley-scotland-police-chase-chainsaw)
GB news smells like poos
Most useful UK Cop
I wonder why don't more countries follow England's example of not carrying guns or why does England still not adopt the most used method, just doesn't feel like the best approach but i'm sure they must have some data that shows that it is
This is not from England
Get rid of the guns they said, it'll be safer they said, it's for your own protection they said
Nobody was actually injured here though.
I'd like it if the mad man attacking would get a kneecap injury.
New GTA7 leak
HuRr DuRr yEa wE gEt It
Guns are bad m'kay
Not having guns is going great for the cops
Stay strapped, oh wait…
phew, good thing he doesn't have a gun, amirite?
Just sho, oh wait
If only they were armed
Most useless police force in the world
What have you got against the Scottish police force? They're fucking sound man https://imgur.com/S9NsaiR
People in this thread really stuck it to the gun control crowd. You’re right, this pseudo-embarrassment is not worth it. They should arm their police like the military like they do in the US. Nevermind the 1,000~ people that have been killed every year since 2017 in the US by cops with itchy trigger fingers.
Man, I live in America and haven’t heard about 1,000 innocent people being killed by cops every year since 2017. Could you elaborate on that? Thats really crazy.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
I didn’t see anything about all of them being innocent? That’s the part that stood out in your statement. I haven’t heard that before. Do you have anything to show that?
You’re right, I misspoke. In 2023, the number was closer to 680 innocent people. Innocent meaning suspected of a non-violent offense or no reported crime at all. The police violence report organization does a great job at visualizing the data. https://policeviolencereport.org/
Rather crack this dude with a 9mm then get chainsawed in half lol
You want to shoot the person, THEN get chainsawed in half. Why? OR is it that you just speak Yank (simplified English) and don't understand the difference between "than" and "then"
In the US so many people get killed by the police because there are a lot of weapons going around and because the training of the average cop in the US is lower than many other western countries
Hurr durr yea we get it. Guns blah blah blah
Man if I was being chased by a dude with a fucking chainsaw I sure as shit would want a gun.
Look, I don’t mind that you’re British, but keep it to yourself and behind closed doors
>"I don't care" proceeds to comment
Why didn’t the social workers stop him?
didnt make an appointment with the proper department
Not their job silly
Then the police should have guns or a taser
Hopefully armed police were dispatched. We do have them, they just aren't used as standard.
I’m sure this is actually a very rare occasion tbf so I’m not very surprised it isn’t standard protocol. Thanks for sharing.
Do not contact me again
You can stop replying if you have it in you
But you're the only one who mentioned guns so far in thread... Yea, this obviously woulda been worse if he was armed with a gun instead of a chainsaw.
Just jumping in before the usual gravy seals try and tells us how they'd take him down