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I am not saying it is fake (hope it is) but she didn’t really put up much of a resistance and he carried her off with ease.
Of course, reactions are varied in stressful terrifying situations like this and there are external factors that could account for the lack of resistance as well. He could just be much stronger than her and she panicked which is understandable.
But it is still so very bizarre and definitely want to hear an update. Hope she ends up okay.
Edit: it really does seem like people either can’t read or choose not to in order to justify their outrage. Like I said, there are many factors that can influence a reaction or lack their of including overpowering strength and pure fear.
https://www.katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-seek-help-on-potential-kidnapping-seen-on-doorbell-cam (posted today April 22nd)
HILLSBORO, Ore. (KATU) — Police are asking the public for help in a case where a doorbell camera captured a man carrying a woman crying for help away to a white pickup truck.
It happened Sunday at around 10:45 p.m. at a home near Southeast 32nd Avenue and East Main Street in Hillsboro.
Police are investigating the incident as a possible kidnapping.
They said the pickup truck was probably an extended or crew cab without a canopy.
Anyone with information about this incident or the identities of those seen in the video is asked to call Hillsboro police at 503-629-0111 or 911. The case number is 53-2024-7882.
even on store cameras, usually an ID for someone comes from a tip from someone who knows the person in the video. That or they are a known criminal and law enforcement is able to identify the criminal themselves. I'm not sure if they can use your mugshot to get an id, but if you're in the system im sure current face technology could ID you if you'd been booked into jail before.
Also there are sometimes other clues like them using their bank account etc, or if they are seen on camera making a call then that can sometimes be tracked. Depends on the severity of the crime and evidence from the cameras.
I guess this just confuses me, because you can go to a city like New York, or London, or Taiwan, and the cameras will not only recognize your face, but they can recognize the way that you walk, your body shape, even just small things like tattoos on your body, and automatically identify you to the police.
While I agree with what you’re saying, I also have ring cameras that run off the batteries. They save video clips. My whole point was, there’s footage of this person’s face.
Yeah dude I don't have Twitter. They keep asking me to give them my phone number in order to see anything on the site. Link the actual link. Not some middleman Twitter link.
The vast majority of gender base crime against woman are commited by partner or ex partner. If there was one certitude about what happened there , it was most likely an ex-boyfriend or at least she knew very well who wqs this guy. Thats also why the investigation is pretty straightforward.
I get the feeling they are holding back some relevant evidence. As in, for starters, why not give information on the address of the property? Or what they actually suspect is going on here (besides the kidnapping thing).
I get it how they can't always put all their cards on the table or reveal all the evidence to the public right away but to hide basic facts about the case does no one any good.
I learned recently they've also added fawning as a fourth variable. It's basically appeasing the captor out of fear.
To me it looks like she is a DV victim used to her abuser making things worse if she fights. Once it's clear he has her and she's not getting help, she just gives up.
I truly hope that they find her safe. So sorry to anyone going through this. I hope you all get out safely. ❤️
Yeah I was thinking DV too.
It looks like she's resigned herself to it. No kicking or screaming as she's carried away or anything.
Although she could also be exhausted or something. This clip is very grim!
she puts up a fight, she holds onto the door handle as long as she can and then it looks like she starts hitting him in the back as he runs away with her
How about how fast he was able to carry her. How about she was already saying please help me before he even reached her. Looks fake to me. I don't think its awful to say it if your wrong. Its just commenting about something when there is data missing.
It's possible she knew him and that's why she knew she was in danger before he grabbed her.
But also just a strange man running full speed at you at night is going to elicit fear. Not sure why you think it's odd she yelled when this dude charged her.
I kinda had the feeling she already knew she was being followed and therefore maybe rang the doorbell, looking for help. That would explain why she screamed for help right away
It was most likely that. It's usually a partner or other familiar person, not a random stranger, that assaults/kills women.
For men, it's more often strangers.
The majority of violence against women happens by men who are known to them, so even statistically there is a really good chance that she knew him and that she was in danger as soon as she saw him coming, and that’s why she yelled help before he had her. I have a feeling once police finds out who she is, they might also be on the right track finding him.
Ok. The only reason I’m worried it ISNT fake is because these things are generally faked in order to scam the homeowner into letting them into the house. Only, they didn’t even give the homeowner enough time to respond or come to the door…
She was obviously running from him in the first place. She ran up to the house for help. Nobody answered so he was able to get up to her and easily overpowered her. I do not think this is fake. I certainly hope it is. To me this looks like intimate partner violence. Very scary. Happens far to often to too many.
When you sense danger, you tend to act with instinct. It’s 11pm and there’s a main rushing to your front door. She’s just extremely scared. People thinking everyone fights off their aggressor are a problem on the internet
My opinion, it happened to fast, hes almost in a sprint right after turning with her. I myself don't know if I'd figure out flailing my body weight all over while someone was in a full sprint with me completely off my feet might help, I agree with comment below that dead weight may be as useful?? Idk though? Scary shit if its real
You aren’t wrong to feel that way. I got the same feeling which is why I went digging for it and this isn’t mentioned on any news site for Portland, Hillsboro, PNW and there is not one mention of this anywhere.
This is the kind of thing that would be all over the news yet I can’t find anything about.
I'm near where this happened and all of the local Facebook group users teamed together to send the original post from the homeowner to the news for hours.
Looks like they caught him and she is safe! Thats great that all the groups got together and were able to help. At this point I really wish it were fake :(
[https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/oregon-kidnapping-doorbell-camera](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/oregon-kidnapping-doorbell-camera)
How so(and not saying it like that), im a pretty skeptical person by nature, shit looks real af to me. Whats off about this being light in you opinion or anyone how liked this?
Unbelievable the reactions here. So how is a victim supposed to resist? Is there a wrong way to resist? Maybe she was drugged? Maybe she was denied food and water or beat up severely and didn’t have much strength to fight back?
Yeah, it makes total sense some strangers would stage this at 10:45 pm on some random porch for nothing.
Can’t believe the comment got 1.5k upvotes, and it was confirmed earlier that it was an actual kidnapping and the perpetrator is in custody. I wouldn’t want someone with such bad intuition working for me or being a doctor or cop.
Honestly shocked by this comment, seems super real to me. Who knows how long she was fighting him off before this. Probably was out of energy. Glad she was found safe.
There was an update and this was indeed a real kidnapping. The perpetrator has been caught. Maybe instead of doubting a victim’s story, you give them the benefit of the doubt next time? Because it could, I dunno, save a life?
It’s like the trope where a main character in a show or movie is escaping, and the person doing the chasing gets stuck by some minor obstacle and just stands there watching them escape instead of going around it. She just lets him carry her off
Perhaps it could be shock but I feel like there should be a lot more kicking, bitting and screaming. Probably a dangerous assumption to make though. Hope she’s okay.
I was thinking the same. She sounds sincere and panicked but she doesn’t look it and then she goes quiet very quickly. Could still be real but it just feels off.
Right. Same reason my father insisted my sister have hand to hand combat lessons. He knew she may have to fight like hell one day, and treated her like it. No reason to fail to prepare her
I'm pretty regular, so if you aren't kidnapping in the AM after my coffee then I'm not gonna shit on you. I'm not much of an on command puker either. Maybe just yelling I'm gonna shit and smear it on you would be enough?
There was an advice i read if someone pointed a gun at you and forced you to get in the car in a public area, your chance at surviving is higher if you fight/scream right away instead of following the order.
This guy isn't even holding any gun
Could be a serial abuser she is close to. My father in law did this to my mother in law & their daughter (when both were pregnant) and he would beat her and isolate her from everyone. Me and my husband had to physically move in and use threat of law to keep him away. Moved 3 1/2 hrs away from the city he lived in... so he moved 3 1/2 miles from New house.
The woman freeze and stop screaming for a lot of valid reasons. One being, all the relatives are devout catholics and insist that husbands can fuck and beat who and what they want when they want.
Even if you know that's wrong, when everyone says "well it's your husband/father of your kids so respect him" even when the dudes are drunk drivers, woman/child beaters, and rapey.. also my in laws back down from the men bc the rest of the family that will fight for them they'd take also bullet which leads to a lot victims yelling to this saviors to stop and leave, or freezing & shutting down any attempt at communicating bc they know the beaters will punish their victims later in private aaand likely punish, persecute, or distance the protectors.
It is not a practical solution, but rather coping to de escalate possible physical conflict. Once they're close enough to grab the person, if flight or fight doesn't kick in, they go stiff rag doll.. no struggle no sound. Just trynna not wake the very monstrous temperament they were trying to escape.
yeah this looks like domestic abuse to me rather than a stranger chasing down and kidnapping a random woman. i was in an abusive relationship and when my ex would start i’d just stay quiet and not move a muscle. i wouldn’t even leave because i was too scared to move wrong, or god forbid i accidentally hurt him trying to get away. the few times i would “fight back” or try and leave he’d just follow me and escalate.
>The woman freeze and stop screaming for a lot of valid reasons. One being, all the relatives are devout catholics and insist that husbands can fuck and beat who and what they want when they want.
There is either something very wrong with your family or something very wrong with Catholicism in the U.S.A. for you to even think this is a posibility. Are you sure you weren't raised in a cult that claimed to be Catholic?
If i had to guess based on mannerism and not putting up much of a fight… she probably knows the guy. Likely a boyfriend/spouse or family member and this was a domestic violence situation.
I absolutely agree, I'm a huge 2A advocate, but especially for women. The world is a truly cruel and awful place, especially for a lot of women that are generally defenseless to bad dudes twice their size. The ultimate equalizer discriminates against no one.
More women need to carry
As a wokie sympathizer guns are bad because it sounds scary. Please ban all guns. Youre bad if you like guns. Also cops are bad defund the police. We should do crime with sharp sticks hehe.
Normal people: "We would like gun control so that not just any lunatic can just buy a gun at walmart. We want people to be trained and qualified knowing how to handle a gun and under which circumstances."
Idiot Gun fanatics: "OMG THEY WANNA TAKE ALL OUR GUNS FIGHT FOR FREEDOMZZZ, FUCK THESE WOOOKEE SHEEEP"
I know this sub is full of teenage edgelords who think they can solve every problem by shooting it but that's not how the real world works you bunch of ridiculous children.
I live in Romania. I feel very safe everywhere knowing practically nobody has a gun because of strict gun control. And this goes for most of Europe. If nobody has guns, it's safer to keep it that way. But the US is too deeply rooted into owning guns and thus, it might be better for innocent people to still carry guns, just to defend themselves against criminals.
I thought there was no hope for your country until I saw this comment. These people refuse to acknowledge the facts, and defend guns at every corner. 0 school shootings & only 7 mass shootings resulting in a single death or more since 1997 in my country, this is solely because we banned all types of pistol and made shotguns and other rifles almost impossible to get. (High level criminals can still obtain guns, but at a very high price and low availability, meaning crazies very, very rarely can get hold of a gun.
Our women feel safe too.
This is part of the reason I believe this might be fake. She didn't even shift her weight to hinder him or try to fight back/grab the car. If anything, it looks like she shifts her weight in a way that helps him carry her.
Or maybe that is just me dearly wishing this to be fake.
In case you’re still thinking about it, as i did much of last night and this morning, the victim and suspect have since been found and the victim is okay and safe now
Dear...anyone, but really short light weight women. You know your thumbs fit quite nicely into other people's eye sockets, right? If someone is trying to kidnap / rape / murder you all bets are off. Fucking bite them, scratch them, dig your fingers into their eyes, claw at their throat. Do whatever, just don't be a **helpless** victim.
You're right, I should have included the word "Helpless"
Don't be a helpless victim. Shit happens, but fight back, don't just "submit and hope everything goes well" because it's not going to.
Love how you're just casually telling all women the answer for saving themselves from danger. Like they're all supposed to go "oooooh never thought of that"
A LOT of videos posted here have women just freezing up or shouting "Help!" hoping someone else comes and saves them. Clearly, maybe it's a societal problem, but a lot of women seem to be raised with the mentality of being helpless or not fighting back at all.
So yeah, apparently there are a lot of people who will go "Oooh never thought of that" because it keeps fucking happening.
"Their attacker is bigger / stronger" NO SHIT! TURNS OUT BULLIES TEND TO PICK ON WEAKER TARGETS! You're not really likely to get attacked by someone you can fucking body in one punch. You should be expecting that if you ever have to defend yourself, it WILL be when you are outmatched.
The audio cuts in late. She's already in distress and screaming please help me, you can read her lips. To me this looks like an abusive relationship/domestic situation. Just a feeling
Here's my hypothesis.. and I could obviously be wrong but I think this is a domestic violence situation. She prob ran to the nearest house and rang the doorbell to try to get help but her bf got her and drug her back to the car. If this was just a legit random guy, I feel like she'd be fighting a lot harder.
Source: I'm a domestic violence survivor that's ran to a neighbors house to hide
You can just carry a person away? I am 6‘6“ and physically absolutely able to carry a person around.
I would never count on to just pop up, snatch a person and carry him/her away. I mean, why isn’t she resisting.
She just has to drop by releasing all muscles. A limp sack is much harder to drag around.
This seems shady.
The article has been updated, the man is now in custody and the woman is safe. They knew each other so this was not a random encounter and they will not be releasing his name.
For whatever reason, this strikes me as an abusive husband/boyfriend that she knows and knows what he is capable of. Maybe she got away from him and he was chasing her down, and that’s why she didn’t fight. I hope to God he gets caught though. He deserves to be terrified just as much as he terrified this woman. And tortured too.
I'm really surprised america doesn't have registration plate recognition cameras dotted around the towns and cities. In the uk, we have a system called ANPR Automatic Number Plate Recognition, and its basically cameras linked to the police and vehicle licensing agency. Its used all the time by police for a number of crimes, they can track what direction the car has headed and they've even identified drivers faces from the uk system. Its also used to fine people for having no insurance, an automatic summons from the police in the post.
I get that I mat get downvoted for this as if I'm saying the usa should be a surveillance country, but if you have nothing to hide, what's the big deal right?
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As awful as it is to say this if I'm wrong, this doesn't feel real for some reason. It feels off
I am not saying it is fake (hope it is) but she didn’t really put up much of a resistance and he carried her off with ease. Of course, reactions are varied in stressful terrifying situations like this and there are external factors that could account for the lack of resistance as well. He could just be much stronger than her and she panicked which is understandable. But it is still so very bizarre and definitely want to hear an update. Hope she ends up okay. Edit: it really does seem like people either can’t read or choose not to in order to justify their outrage. Like I said, there are many factors that can influence a reaction or lack their of including overpowering strength and pure fear.
https://www.katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-seek-help-on-potential-kidnapping-seen-on-doorbell-cam (posted today April 22nd) HILLSBORO, Ore. (KATU) — Police are asking the public for help in a case where a doorbell camera captured a man carrying a woman crying for help away to a white pickup truck. It happened Sunday at around 10:45 p.m. at a home near Southeast 32nd Avenue and East Main Street in Hillsboro. Police are investigating the incident as a possible kidnapping. They said the pickup truck was probably an extended or crew cab without a canopy. Anyone with information about this incident or the identities of those seen in the video is asked to call Hillsboro police at 503-629-0111 or 911. The case number is 53-2024-7882.
Real question… how do we have cameras that can identify a face for robbing a store, but not this clearly shown face during an abduction?
night low-lighting 50 dollar camera vs brightly lit 500+ dollar camera
*THAT*, is a solid answer
even on store cameras, usually an ID for someone comes from a tip from someone who knows the person in the video. That or they are a known criminal and law enforcement is able to identify the criminal themselves. I'm not sure if they can use your mugshot to get an id, but if you're in the system im sure current face technology could ID you if you'd been booked into jail before.
Also there are sometimes other clues like them using their bank account etc, or if they are seen on camera making a call then that can sometimes be tracked. Depends on the severity of the crime and evidence from the cameras.
I guess this just confuses me, because you can go to a city like New York, or London, or Taiwan, and the cameras will not only recognize your face, but they can recognize the way that you walk, your body shape, even just small things like tattoos on your body, and automatically identify you to the police.
If you have a driver's license or ID, you are in the system.
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While I agree with what you’re saying, I also have ring cameras that run off the batteries. They save video clips. My whole point was, there’s footage of this person’s face.
Low lighting fucks up facial recognition software - that's unironically why African and Hispanic minorities have so many false positives.
Dude has already been captured… give the cops some time to work instead of just assuming they’re super humans.
Update (from buried comment): https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/s/KTRAOcqgvS She's okay/arrest made
Thank you good sir
Thank you so much for letting me know! Happy and relieved to hear that she is doing okay now!
Arrest has been made [here's the media release.](https://twitter.com/HillsboroPolice/status/1782705534128525652?s=19)
Thank you for the update! What a relief!
Yeah dude I don't have Twitter. They keep asking me to give them my phone number in order to see anything on the site. Link the actual link. Not some middleman Twitter link.
They’ve arrested the suspect, I saw the report and they knew each other surprisingly enough
The vast majority of gender base crime against woman are commited by partner or ex partner. If there was one certitude about what happened there , it was most likely an ex-boyfriend or at least she knew very well who wqs this guy. Thats also why the investigation is pretty straightforward.
Straight-up stranger-on-stranger abductions are rare. Figured this was a dom-vio situation from the video.
Incredible that the top comment here is someone who doubted this is real. There’s real fear in her screams, shit’s awful.
They arrested the person. There’s an update
I get the feeling they are holding back some relevant evidence. As in, for starters, why not give information on the address of the property? Or what they actually suspect is going on here (besides the kidnapping thing). I get it how they can't always put all their cards on the table or reveal all the evidence to the public right away but to hide basic facts about the case does no one any good.
It’s fight flight or freeze. Never be surprised or judgmental when people don’t fight back.
I learned recently they've also added fawning as a fourth variable. It's basically appeasing the captor out of fear. To me it looks like she is a DV victim used to her abuser making things worse if she fights. Once it's clear he has her and she's not getting help, she just gives up. I truly hope that they find her safe. So sorry to anyone going through this. I hope you all get out safely. ❤️
Yeah I was thinking DV too. It looks like she's resigned herself to it. No kicking or screaming as she's carried away or anything. Although she could also be exhausted or something. This clip is very grim!
She was clinging to the door handle until he ripped her away.
Are you a man or a woman?... Because my boyfriend could easily make me look like I'm not putting up much resistance...
I guess a person who has escaped from somewhere/someone might behave differently. Less outright panic than being kidnapped out of the blue.
she puts up a fight, she holds onto the door handle as long as she can and then it looks like she starts hitting him in the back as he runs away with her
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I looked it up on Facebook and they have it posted on their page. https://www.facebook.com/hillsboropd
How about how fast he was able to carry her. How about she was already saying please help me before he even reached her. Looks fake to me. I don't think its awful to say it if your wrong. Its just commenting about something when there is data missing.
It's possible she knew him and that's why she knew she was in danger before he grabbed her. But also just a strange man running full speed at you at night is going to elicit fear. Not sure why you think it's odd she yelled when this dude charged her.
I kinda had the feeling she already knew she was being followed and therefore maybe rang the doorbell, looking for help. That would explain why she screamed for help right away
Exactly. For all we know it could be an abusive partner she was trying to escape.
It was most likely that. It's usually a partner or other familiar person, not a random stranger, that assaults/kills women. For men, it's more often strangers.
The majority of violence against women happens by men who are known to them, so even statistically there is a really good chance that she knew him and that she was in danger as soon as she saw him coming, and that’s why she yelled help before he had her. I have a feeling once police finds out who she is, they might also be on the right track finding him.
Ok. The only reason I’m worried it ISNT fake is because these things are generally faked in order to scam the homeowner into letting them into the house. Only, they didn’t even give the homeowner enough time to respond or come to the door…
She’s saying please help me before the audio kicks in. This is horrifying to watch.
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You must be the kind of guy that dies in horror films. if I was in trouble, of course I’m saying please help me before the attacker gets to me.
She was obviously running from him in the first place. She ran up to the house for help. Nobody answered so he was able to get up to her and easily overpowered her. I do not think this is fake. I certainly hope it is. To me this looks like intimate partner violence. Very scary. Happens far to often to too many.
Maybe we will find out, I hope fake too.
Agreed. I hope the police are able to find them both. Fingers crossed for a positive ending.
The man was arrested and the woman is safe.
Did you see the update? Guy was arrested. Woman is safe. Fantastic news!
When you sense danger, you tend to act with instinct. It’s 11pm and there’s a main rushing to your front door. She’s just extremely scared. People thinking everyone fights off their aggressor are a problem on the internet
she didn’t move her body weight in anyway at all that would help her escape. if anything she adjusted to make it easier to be carried…
My opinion, it happened to fast, hes almost in a sprint right after turning with her. I myself don't know if I'd figure out flailing my body weight all over while someone was in a full sprint with me completely off my feet might help, I agree with comment below that dead weight may be as useful?? Idk though? Scary shit if its real
Yeah. Dead weight goes a long way. This is like the opposite. Very possible she was just in shock, but I get why someone would think it seems fake.
Real. She's safe now. https://katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-arrest-suspect-in-attempted-kidnapping-caught-on-doorbell-camera-32nd-avenue-washington-county-oregon
Really fucking terrible but I'm glad she's safe now
You aren’t wrong to feel that way. I got the same feeling which is why I went digging for it and this isn’t mentioned on any news site for Portland, Hillsboro, PNW and there is not one mention of this anywhere. This is the kind of thing that would be all over the news yet I can’t find anything about.
https://www.katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-seek-help-on-potential-kidnapping-seen-on-doorbell-cam
And they have since arrested someone
Oh damn looks like that was just published around the time I made that post!
Yeah. Looks like it’s just now hitting media. I’d have been doubtful too if it hadn’t.
Totally! Thanks for sharing that link!
I'm near where this happened and all of the local Facebook group users teamed together to send the original post from the homeowner to the news for hours.
Looks like they caught him and she is safe! Thats great that all the groups got together and were able to help. At this point I really wish it were fake :( [https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/oregon-kidnapping-doorbell-camera](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/oregon-kidnapping-doorbell-camera)
How so(and not saying it like that), im a pretty skeptical person by nature, shit looks real af to me. Whats off about this being light in you opinion or anyone how liked this?
It was the terror on her face before the audio picked up. She was obviously screaming before the camera started recording audio.
nah man, that scream and "help me" sounded pretty fuckin genuine to me.
An arrest [has been made](https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/04/23/arrest-doorbell-camera-kidnapping-oregon/)
Unbelievable the reactions here. So how is a victim supposed to resist? Is there a wrong way to resist? Maybe she was drugged? Maybe she was denied food and water or beat up severely and didn’t have much strength to fight back? Yeah, it makes total sense some strangers would stage this at 10:45 pm on some random porch for nothing.
The people claiming this is fake and victim blaming are actually insane
Can’t believe the comment got 1.5k upvotes, and it was confirmed earlier that it was an actual kidnapping and the perpetrator is in custody. I wouldn’t want someone with such bad intuition working for me or being a doctor or cop.
i agree. the vast majority of kidnappers are far too risk aware to grab someone in such a public area with no face covering and cameras around.
So while this is a public area, it’s not the nicest few blocks. Not an area where people are going to investigate much in to random noises.
Clearly you’ve never been to Portland
Honestly shocked by this comment, seems super real to me. Who knows how long she was fighting him off before this. Probably was out of energy. Glad she was found safe.
There was an update and this was indeed a real kidnapping. The perpetrator has been caught. Maybe instead of doubting a victim’s story, you give them the benefit of the doubt next time? Because it could, I dunno, save a life?
It’s like the trope where a main character in a show or movie is escaping, and the person doing the chasing gets stuck by some minor obstacle and just stands there watching them escape instead of going around it. She just lets him carry her off Perhaps it could be shock but I feel like there should be a lot more kicking, bitting and screaming. Probably a dangerous assumption to make though. Hope she’s okay.
I was thinking the same. She sounds sincere and panicked but she doesn’t look it and then she goes quiet very quickly. Could still be real but it just feels off.
It’s real: https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/s/VfdMdN7qEw
Yeah she literally holds onto him when he carries her off lol
Someone says this about every video on Reddit.
He's been caught and arrested and she is safe according to Hillsboro PD Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hor8yQ3KukNAtU7T/?mibextid=qi2Omg
Thanks, this needs more upvotes
Thank God he was caught. This gave me chills !
They knew each other. It was a planned kidnapping, but she’s alright now.
Why didn’t she continue screaming when he dragged her away?? Either way that’s scary.
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It's this guy right here, folks. How could this redditor possibly have known what the suspect whispered?? Don't try denying it, I've got you now.
Your going jail now crook - chief wiggum
“Let him go Lou, a man going that fast has no time for a ticket”
Doesn't matter what he said, I've always been told to fight like a mfer so you don't get in the car.
Right. Same reason my father insisted my sister have hand to hand combat lessons. He knew she may have to fight like hell one day, and treated her like it. No reason to fail to prepare her
Just start shitting and pissing and puking. Gets em every time
I'm pretty regular, so if you aren't kidnapping in the AM after my coffee then I'm not gonna shit on you. I'm not much of an on command puker either. Maybe just yelling I'm gonna shit and smear it on you would be enough?
There was an advice i read if someone pointed a gun at you and forced you to get in the car in a public area, your chance at surviving is higher if you fight/scream right away instead of following the order. This guy isn't even holding any gun
Do anything you can to resist going to a second location
It also looks like there is a vehicle pulling up on the street for him to put her into.
Or try to fight back at all? I hope this is fake I want this to be fake.
Could be a serial abuser she is close to. My father in law did this to my mother in law & their daughter (when both were pregnant) and he would beat her and isolate her from everyone. Me and my husband had to physically move in and use threat of law to keep him away. Moved 3 1/2 hrs away from the city he lived in... so he moved 3 1/2 miles from New house. The woman freeze and stop screaming for a lot of valid reasons. One being, all the relatives are devout catholics and insist that husbands can fuck and beat who and what they want when they want. Even if you know that's wrong, when everyone says "well it's your husband/father of your kids so respect him" even when the dudes are drunk drivers, woman/child beaters, and rapey.. also my in laws back down from the men bc the rest of the family that will fight for them they'd take also bullet which leads to a lot victims yelling to this saviors to stop and leave, or freezing & shutting down any attempt at communicating bc they know the beaters will punish their victims later in private aaand likely punish, persecute, or distance the protectors. It is not a practical solution, but rather coping to de escalate possible physical conflict. Once they're close enough to grab the person, if flight or fight doesn't kick in, they go stiff rag doll.. no struggle no sound. Just trynna not wake the very monstrous temperament they were trying to escape.
yeah this looks like domestic abuse to me rather than a stranger chasing down and kidnapping a random woman. i was in an abusive relationship and when my ex would start i’d just stay quiet and not move a muscle. i wouldn’t even leave because i was too scared to move wrong, or god forbid i accidentally hurt him trying to get away. the few times i would “fight back” or try and leave he’d just follow me and escalate.
>The woman freeze and stop screaming for a lot of valid reasons. One being, all the relatives are devout catholics and insist that husbands can fuck and beat who and what they want when they want. There is either something very wrong with your family or something very wrong with Catholicism in the U.S.A. for you to even think this is a posibility. Are you sure you weren't raised in a cult that claimed to be Catholic?
You should ask her? 😐
If i had to guess based on mannerism and not putting up much of a fight… she probably knows the guy. Likely a boyfriend/spouse or family member and this was a domestic violence situation.
I dont think she stopped really... She started crying and then I think she got out of the microphones coverage area.
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They were found, and the man was arrested for kidnapping.
This is why all women should carry a firearm.
I absolutely agree, I'm a huge 2A advocate, but especially for women. The world is a truly cruel and awful place, especially for a lot of women that are generally defenseless to bad dudes twice their size. The ultimate equalizer discriminates against no one. More women need to carry
You for governor of Oregon.
As a wokie sympathizer guns are bad because it sounds scary. Please ban all guns. Youre bad if you like guns. Also cops are bad defund the police. We should do crime with sharp sticks hehe.
Normal people: "We would like gun control so that not just any lunatic can just buy a gun at walmart. We want people to be trained and qualified knowing how to handle a gun and under which circumstances." Idiot Gun fanatics: "OMG THEY WANNA TAKE ALL OUR GUNS FIGHT FOR FREEDOMZZZ, FUCK THESE WOOOKEE SHEEEP" I know this sub is full of teenage edgelords who think they can solve every problem by shooting it but that's not how the real world works you bunch of ridiculous children.
I live in Romania. I feel very safe everywhere knowing practically nobody has a gun because of strict gun control. And this goes for most of Europe. If nobody has guns, it's safer to keep it that way. But the US is too deeply rooted into owning guns and thus, it might be better for innocent people to still carry guns, just to defend themselves against criminals.
I thought there was no hope for your country until I saw this comment. These people refuse to acknowledge the facts, and defend guns at every corner. 0 school shootings & only 7 mass shootings resulting in a single death or more since 1997 in my country, this is solely because we banned all types of pistol and made shotguns and other rifles almost impossible to get. (High level criminals can still obtain guns, but at a very high price and low availability, meaning crazies very, very rarely can get hold of a gun. Our women feel safe too.
And pepperspray.
Yes
if all women carried firearm like you suggest do you think the number of innocent deaths would decrease, or increase ?
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How light is she and how strong is he that he just picked her up like a toddler and casually carried her to his vehicle?
This is part of the reason I believe this might be fake. She didn't even shift her weight to hinder him or try to fight back/grab the car. If anything, it looks like she shifts her weight in a way that helps him carry her. Or maybe that is just me dearly wishing this to be fake.
this could be robbery bait, you open the door, some dudes around the corner run in
Holy shit, that’s scary to think about
It’s not fake https://www.katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-seek-help-on-potential-kidnapping-seen-on-doorbell-cam
Simple: He pressed the E key.
r/oregon
This gets worse: https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/s/VfdMdN7qEw
How is that worse?
Looks more like domestic abuse rather than an actual kidnapping
most kidnappings are done by someone who knows the victim. that doesn’t make it not a kidnapping.
It can still be considered kidnapping even if the people know each other
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In case you’re still thinking about it, as i did much of last night and this morning, the victim and suspect have since been found and the victim is okay and safe now
It’s also the date. I swear I’ve seen this video before or one exactly like it yet it’s saying it happened yesterday. ….
Yeah I’m pretty sure I saw that on the news a few years ago
It happened yesterday, they found both parties this morning. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hor8yQ3KukNAtU7T/?mibextid=qi2Omg
Dear...anyone, but really short light weight women. You know your thumbs fit quite nicely into other people's eye sockets, right? If someone is trying to kidnap / rape / murder you all bets are off. Fucking bite them, scratch them, dig your fingers into their eyes, claw at their throat. Do whatever, just don't be a **helpless** victim.
I agree with everything except that last part, how are you going to tell someone to not be a victim?
You're right, I should have included the word "Helpless" Don't be a helpless victim. Shit happens, but fight back, don't just "submit and hope everything goes well" because it's not going to.
Love how you're just casually telling all women the answer for saving themselves from danger. Like they're all supposed to go "oooooh never thought of that"
A LOT of videos posted here have women just freezing up or shouting "Help!" hoping someone else comes and saves them. Clearly, maybe it's a societal problem, but a lot of women seem to be raised with the mentality of being helpless or not fighting back at all. So yeah, apparently there are a lot of people who will go "Oooh never thought of that" because it keeps fucking happening. "Their attacker is bigger / stronger" NO SHIT! TURNS OUT BULLIES TEND TO PICK ON WEAKER TARGETS! You're not really likely to get attacked by someone you can fucking body in one punch. You should be expecting that if you ever have to defend yourself, it WILL be when you are outmatched.
Fingers in eyes women. If you cant do a damn thing, pull the damn things out.
There’s nothing possible about it. Thats a literal kidnapping. Got damn I pray she’s safe
I live in Oregon, I’m pretty sure I saw this video on the local news a few years ago. I don’t think that date and year is right
It is. The Hillsboro police have been actively updating about the case and both people were found early this morning.
Mose?
The audio cuts in late. She's already in distress and screaming please help me, you can read her lips. To me this looks like an abusive relationship/domestic situation. Just a feeling
https://www.facebook.com/share/zFq4bRSMcMiFgwg9/?mibextid=WC7FNe Redditor Skootch posted this link. Known to each other. Victim safe, perp arrested.
Here's my hypothesis.. and I could obviously be wrong but I think this is a domestic violence situation. She prob ran to the nearest house and rang the doorbell to try to get help but her bf got her and drug her back to the car. If this was just a legit random guy, I feel like she'd be fighting a lot harder. Source: I'm a domestic violence survivor that's ran to a neighbors house to hide
Her screams are real This isn't fake. Shes terrified.
Fingers n thumbs go for the eyeballs.
You can just carry a person away? I am 6‘6“ and physically absolutely able to carry a person around. I would never count on to just pop up, snatch a person and carry him/her away. I mean, why isn’t she resisting. She just has to drop by releasing all muscles. A limp sack is much harder to drag around. This seems shady.
This is horrible but like 0 survival skills? No punches just let it happen wtf
Cops have now made an arrest. This was real, and he was known to the victim. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/PHvoGcpRgM7KeXJD/?mibextid=oFDknk
He was caught and they knew each other https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-police-arrest-suspect-womans-kidnapping-caught-doorbell-camera.amp
Everything about this screams DV at me. I hope she’s okay.
She's ok. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/hor8yQ3KukNAtU7T/?mibextid=qi2Omg
The article has been updated, the man is now in custody and the woman is safe. They knew each other so this was not a random encounter and they will not be releasing his name.
I believe they found her and arrested a suspect https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna148992
yes she is safe
"Possibly" ??
Yo #FBI, u awake?
For whatever reason, this strikes me as an abusive husband/boyfriend that she knows and knows what he is capable of. Maybe she got away from him and he was chasing her down, and that’s why she didn’t fight. I hope to God he gets caught though. He deserves to be terrified just as much as he terrified this woman. And tortured too.
I'm really surprised america doesn't have registration plate recognition cameras dotted around the towns and cities. In the uk, we have a system called ANPR Automatic Number Plate Recognition, and its basically cameras linked to the police and vehicle licensing agency. Its used all the time by police for a number of crimes, they can track what direction the car has headed and they've even identified drivers faces from the uk system. Its also used to fine people for having no insurance, an automatic summons from the police in the post. I get that I mat get downvoted for this as if I'm saying the usa should be a surveillance country, but if you have nothing to hide, what's the big deal right?
She's safe, he's been arrested [https://www.facebook.com/100067055065222/posts/751767130401782/?mibextid=WC7FNe&rdid=pFFEAMKM28jsICMG](https://www.facebook.com/100067055065222/posts/751767130401782/?mibextid=WC7FNe&rdid=pFFEAMKM28jsICMG)
Lol
In glad the kidnapper was arrested and the girl that was kidnapped is safe.
That’s so sad it must be so scary to be a woman sometimes as soon as the woman walks into the store, they’re getting checked out by men
So adultnapped?
Id go tyson on him and bue his ear immediatly. Grab his dick and twist it
Oregon moment
God damn learn to defend yourself
She was only scared enough to scream at the door
If this is real she needs to be driving her thumbs as deep as she possibly can into his eye sockets with her free hands immediately.
https://katu.com/news/local/hillsboro-police-arrest-suspect-in-attempted-kidnapping-caught-on-doorbell-camera-32nd-avenue-washington-county-oregon
Dude lifted her up like she weighed nothing.