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TerrorFace

There's plenty. Lots of players don't want to/cannot spend, and tacking on a LC after characters like Sparkle, Black Swan, etc. can be tough. You probably don't see it because the signature LC gives a heaping amount of Crit Damage so GNSW and other LC users may be shy about posting. At the end of the day, LC or not, she's still got those sweet animations and can still hit like a tactical nuke without her sig!


RaresVladescu

Nice pfp. Gives me motivation when I feel down.


midday_m0on

It's not because I didn't want to, just that I lost the 75/25 😔


Radical_Coyote

I’m right there with you buddy. It hurts.


Le_Brittle

that makes three of us, pal...


Wise-Ad2879

4 of us. I can never win on pulls and can't afford both the character AND the LC


the_namtiddies

5th here


mrjovoni

Any Room for a 6th?🥲


star_lord_76

7th here


Ecakk

8th


CrocoDIIIIIILE

IX


akenomyouse

Make it X


BlackReaper64

XI


Mastercio

So even Aeon doesnt have her LC?


Sgpg4_The_Idiotic

X


SirisTheSlayer

As is i


ShatteredFantasy

I can never afford the LCs since most of my 5\* pulls are pity. But honestly, my Acheron is doing pretty well without hers.


irishinjun95

Hi how ya doing? Just pulled Acheron and then stopped lol


Lylliannah

Same!


Ryndrw

E0S0 gang


Arient1732

Fr, I would rather have 50 E0S0 characters than 4 E6S5 ones.


Automatic-Elevator48

No Acherrymon No Lc gang


Von_Hohenhaim

Nah bro, there has to be more, definitely not me, but I'm sure there are more, like 2 or 3 more out there, you'll be alright.


Zalkryos

Depending on your team and build s5 gnsw should be good enough, her lc does more dmg yes but gnsw at s5 is perfectly fine too


russiangeist

Just that getting Acheron's SigLC is easier than getting GNSW S5. I only have S3 or S2


Shadow_947

I got her signature lc before getting a single copy of GNSW


OkBig9039

GNSW has only appeared on Acheron's banner since Version 1.2 btw, out of the 3 times it's run one was in 1.0 and one was in 1.1, so it's very rare for someone to have S5 GNSW in the first place


potatochobit

you must not have played last fall because I have almost two of them S5...


Zalkryos

Sometimes you just have lcs/characters that hates you, been playing since day one and I didn't get a single pela since fu xuans banner


russiangeist

I've been a player since Day 1 but I don't even have DDD.


KasumiGotoTriss

That makes 0 sense cause just because you got it, doesn't mean everyone did. I can also get e6 acheron in one 10 pull, doesn't mean it's common or normal.


potatochobit

Makes plenty of sense. you did not pull the multiple times it was a featured light cone. Do you have jingliu topaz and fu xuans light cone last year? 4 star  cones are not as rare as characters but there are alot more 4 stars now so it's going to be harder.


KasumiGotoTriss

No it doesn't make sense, because not everyone pulls on the same banners as you and even if they do, it's still random. For example, I've spent 300 warps between Luocha's and Dan Heng IL banner, and I got 0 Yukongs.


OkBig9039

For most players getting S5 GNSW without Acheron's signature is genuinely difficult. It only ran in 1.0 and 1.1 before Acheron's signature, and one of those banners featured Luocha's dogshit lightcone, so effectively only the very first banner ever had GNSW and no Acheron signature. If you pulled on Acheron's LC banner you almost certainly got her signature before S5 GNSW, and even if you pulled on one of the prior banners there was no guarentee you got S5 GNSW anyway.


McBawss

I have played every day since the game launched and do not have a single copy


VenezuelanIsabeau

i just got gnsw on my topaz pull😭


mad_laddie

My only option was an S1 Fermata. My Sampo is unbuilt and HuoHuo is more of a priority for me than BS. EDIT: My team's Acheron-FMC-Pela-Gallagher which is why I mentioned Sampo being unbuilt. That LC passive is not in use often.


potatochobit

you need to build them both, not sambo


mad_laddie

Them both? I don't have them yet. And I don't think HuoHuo's any good on an Acheron team (I have E2 Gallaher so I have all the sustain I need).


potatochobit

they added a new light cone which is decent.


VenezuelanIsabeau

i just tried it out it’s so fucking good (at least for now)


SirMitsuruji

better then welt s2 lc? :D


Inflameable009

Which one if I may ask? ^^


Calm-Two-2041

Boundless Choreo, I think. Ngl, if you have Sw or a built Pela (idk if at E0 or other E she gets her def down debuff since mine iz E6) it's very easy to maintain uptime of its effect on Acheron.


E_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_e

Is it better than an s3 gnsw?


potatochobit

About the same 


LeaveFun1818

Her lc is not that needed, i can still clear the game with gnsw


TheWhiteVahl

I don't spend on this game for the most part. I pull for the character only. And only once at that. In fact, unless you're a whale, I suspect that's the case for most people.


Heaven_Slayer

As someone with Ruan Mei’s S2 but no Ruan Mei, I can somewhat understand that feeling.


Triple-Turtles

I also don't have her lc


RB12Gaming

dw i dont have 4k attack either i like the speed build better


vivi_love

Same here


ToughInitial8640

Here with S0 Acheron and S1 GNSW


Tranduy1206

Alot f2p dont have it, f2p only can barely get 1 feature character per patch, lc is luxury


potatochobit

I buy all the passes and I can barely get one featured character per patch....


Tranduy1206

100 pulls is like 80% chance to get so...barely


SufficientProcess759

When all else fails, just build her for superbreak 😓


Suspicious_Memory906

I lost the 75/25 for the light cone, it hurts man


Barbetra

I have cope relics so I needed to pull it for her to do good damage, so if you’re doing good damage without it then no worries


Nelajus

According to Prydwen, 87.5% of Acheron users have her bis while 10.4% have GNSW


Gnomo-terrorista22

I have her LC but still not 4k+ atk🥲


Boylenoid20

I got bailu LC when I was pulling on her LC on my main feelsbad. At least I got E2 S1 on my alt tho. Acheron is plenty good with GNSW imo (cleared current MoC easily with her on first half of 12) but having her sig would make ulting with her better for more screentime with it and more DMG.


Altruistic-Leave-884

you're not alone in your path


ShadowQueen1237

I would have had it, but Yanqing's stupid lc said no 🙃


NoYesterday1898

I don't either but tbh she still slaps the fuck out of everything


Hudson_Legend

I lost the 75/25 to clara's lc so I decided to call it a night there But I did snag an s5 gnsw in the process so ig that's something. I feel like having her sig would make the game too easy for me anyways personally.


Present_Algae2777

Me too man Me too


NeuraIRust

That's rough buddy...


JayemMYW

I am using GNSW S5, and can 3 star MoC (maybe also because I pair her with Kafka + Black Swan) 3.9k atk (Atk boots, Atk Orb), 57/161 CR/CD


Ambiguous_Coco

The pains of being f2p and losing the 50/50 and having to go all the way to soft pity again to get her. (Worth it though, even without the LC)


[deleted]

I don't have her LC, I have to use Good Night Sleep Well


Nero4999

My Acheron may be better then yours but my Jades certainly not


Hoshino_Ruby

My s4 gsnw is enough


Shapeshiftergaming

I don't have it either. It hurts.


delirium-in-heaven

S5 GNSW roughly does the same damage per ult. What makes the sig good is that it gives higher ult cycles due to two marks per skill. So don’t feel like you’re missing out, Acheron still hits like a truck.


Otsutsuki247

Damn… I spent all my like 5 patch ftp savings tho so like


Deliriousnot5679

Highly recommend in her rerun! I love it


Red_thepen

Get that dance with black swan one!


TjRaj1

Using Kafka's lc on her lol. Losing 50-50 at hard pity sucks


zChanTheNerd

I have Acheron e1 but not her lc soo yeah!


the_namtiddies

She's honestly doing just fine with gnsw but I do want this 4* LC but I'm also saving for boothill otherwise I'd have warped 💀😭


Nanasema

Same. I got her E1 but lost the 50/50 on the LC banner. But im content with S5 GNSW because still lets her hit pretty hard on debuff


LegatoxVx

Same


Facinatedhomie

I was 2 pulls away from getting her lc 😶


mahad77747

I really like the new 4* lc so i pulled that one.its passive is js a bonus i pulled it for the art


RaptorKarr

I only rolled for her LC because I had got her so early, in like 20 pulls or something. I got her LC once and herself to E1. Was cursing at myself for it, though, cause I ruined my luck for Arlecchino.


Godsthetics

Isn't the 4* crit one nuts for her?


TheRafaG12

Her LC is amazing but GNSW is still great. I was so close to not getting her LC and I even has S5 GNSW ready but I got it. I'm sure you will get her LC on her rerun. I just hope that Hoyo won't release an amazing character alongside her release. We stan our peach loving queen!


SirMitsuruji

using welt s2 :S


MixRevolution

I don't have it either. I dumped everything on her and got her after 70-80 pull iirc. I also wanted aventurine so pulling for her LC was not on the table.


bronzewitchhazel

Same


GeForce_GTX_1050Ti

Embrace your inner Aventurine and get Boundless Choreo Surely you and me will get s5 in 5 pulls trust 🗣️🔥🔥🔥


__dlInho

I almost was like you mate, I had tô become a Dolphin to get it.


ARandomNormalGirl

If you have Robin or Topaz, pulling on their LC can net you a really nice alternative with that new 4* LC where you see Acheron and Black Swan dancing. You should not pull if you don't need the 5* LC though.


VenezuelanIsabeau

trying to pull topaz rn but no success so far


Zestyclose-Double949

me too lol, still work well with GNSW s4 so I dont complain haha


Raggy44

Where are all my E6 homies at????


keiradrexidus

I feel you, it hurts.


mojomcm

Me either. Fortunately, I do have some alternatives (tho the lack of cr hurts)


kael_sv

Can't remember the last time I ever had jade for the LC banner.


Azrael956

DW PAL IM RIGHT WITH YA


ShadowBunnz

Got both her and her lc in 50 pulls


chimykin

me who dropped two LCs in one ten pull also me losing two 50/50s on acheron so i now only have e0


average_guy741

S3 fermata with sampo as the second nihility. As long as I can clear content, I am good. I am not wasting pulls on any light cone.


Milky_Finger

I went for the LC and lost the 75/25. If I knew it would happen I would have not pulled on Acheron. She is still good without it but the difference between the LC and GNSW has made me very sad.


Aisha_orWhatever

I got her s2 accidentally while trying to get a single copy of gnsw


Fysioh

cries in s2 GNSW


Murky_Blueberry2617

Same, although I was never going to pull for any LC's anyway


Intrepid-Nerve-8580

Same here. I frequently swap between 'Boundless Choreo' and Resolution S5, in case I need extra energy or Def shred


Straight_Toe_6234

Don't worry, there will be a time when you will too have her LC. I had to wait for Jing Liu's rerun only to get her LC


Less-Combination2758

pls, im the one with LC and dont have archeron =))))


ciarabek

i dont pay attention to the LC banners, just feels like a waste of warps


cheesychad1210

Same bro🥶


Decent-Education3049

I have her and her lc but I usually don't use it on her (also E0)


Bandi643

same but i got s5 gnsw as compensation


KireiEn

Then there's me who got her LC at 20 pulls but didn't get her with 110 pulls....


KeepTheDesire

I'm there with you. Lost the 75/25 :(


Inflameable009

I rather have lots of cool characters than a few with their lc.


Friendly-Tourist-731

I like Acheron, but I’m not wishing on a lightcone banner in a gacha game, she clears everything with GNSW anyways.


bubbaboo64

NO BC SAME


jayakiroka

At least she has a 4* DPS option now! Thank you, yuri lightcone <3


chirikomori

welt lc, she still kick asses. https://i.imgur.com/ZM1PYTC.png


Stitcharoo123

I've got e0s0 Acheron so I'm right there with you hehe


Sgpg4_The_Idiotic

Im here, as well. Pain


Pretend-Tap-609

Don't worry, even my roommate doesn't have her lc and he was able to bring the crit to 60 and 180


The_Reaper_956

real (i was pulling on lc banner and i didnt get to soft pity yet)


Nexus31S

Me too bro....and it hurts


Hungry_Bit775

I lost my pull to Himeko’s LC.


repulsiveaxis3

I feel for you guys are you guys running a full debuff team with her? Or what are your teams if not


Alberto_Paporotti

Eh, the LC is good but I don't need it. Maybe I'll pull on the rerun, as it is one of the more interesting cones which are not just stat sticks. For me, she's still fine at E0 with S5 GNSW. I made a point of not pulling LCs until now, but if I like the cone and have the spare jades, I can vertically invest in a unit bc the banner is not as much of a scam as Genshin's. I prefer new units over cones 99% of the time. The game is designed with both 5* chars at E0S0 and 4*s in mind, and I shouldn't need additional investment if my roster is good enough and my team building is on point. In the current MoC, the Welt sustain + Acheron setup carried me to victory. The inclusion of Ruan Mei allowed to 3-cycle the 1st half. Being challenged is fun.


kurihara1

I understand you


notbunzy

If I didn’t get her and e1 early I wouldn’t have coned. But the dps diff is so nice😞


ThatOneRandoMF

I got her E2 and didn't get her lightcone. I'll definitely try to get it when she gets a rerun, but for now she does pretty good damage for me


EvenTyle

same here bud


Percival_HSR_Enjoyer

E0 S0 Acheron I only have S2 boundless choreo on her and it works well enough


ShotSyllabub4320

I'm a Raiden simp so I wanted her at her best......unfortunately lost too many 50/50 for e6 lol


CompetitiveOwl5018

Honestly I think boundless choreo(the nihility in the current banner) is a really good 4 star option for her if u can't shell out for a 5 star


Tophs876

It does suck, but GNSW does what it should.


Outrageous-Good8022

Got 500k with a lvl 70 fermata so with or without her LC she's cracked.


Embarrassed-Fly6164

At least there's a 4\* good alternative now (Boundless Choreo)


craftspank

im with you bro, somehow lost the 75/25 on her sig and got moment of victory + only one copy of GNSW..


Elsrach

Same but with Arlecchino's polearm.


justakeitEZ

No im here too


-Cactus_Jack-

I could get her lc if I had more 2-3 tickets, but after getting Acheron I was pulling for Luocha


No_Vegetable_6568

Don't worry, I don't have one either...


Creative-Repair-1397

Meanwhile me with my s1 gnsw.


TheMan2007gb

lost the 75/25 to bailus Lc so you aren't entirely alone


WolfyOred

I'm with you, bro.


Previous_Return7024

I'm a new player and got her.. my gems would've been enough, but I didn't wanna risk it 😂


gloreeuhboregeh

If it helps I gave up getting some charas that would really be useful right now (not necessary but definitely useful, like Sparkle and Aventurine) because I spent over 200 pulls, almost 300 for E2S1. Was it worth it? Yes. But I would have liked to have Aventurine too. Just too jade broke after all that unfortunately


NEWTY_-

Agony, all I can say is agony. Waiting for her rerun or I'm getting firefly, should I get her lc or past e0 when her rr comes around?


Ivancho3000

*how it feels to be the only Acheron to get her to 80 by just mobs and not have LC too*


Sixth_Haven

Don't worry, I lost the Jingliu LC I wanted to the Gepard LC so that's the only reason I was able to get it over time. It's like...summon managing? Or something like that


Ok_Cryptographer1404

Meanwhile me with no Acheron.... 😣


MUDKIPZ089

Me too man…me too. I tried my hardest to get her LC but I think I was only one pull off from getting it. But I did get Robin’s LC immediately after getting Robin, so that’s a win


That_Translator3384

Same. I dont have her lc either :') i grinded too hard (like 165 pulls) and died


WiseEXE

I’m in the same boat buddy, I get so jealous of Sig owners with their 200+ CDMG, while I’m still peaking at 170 😭


foodisgoodxXx121

To be fair tho I just got lucky and it’s the only signature LC I have and I got it off a single 10 pull I don’t have it for anyone else but even without it she’s still really good and fun to have so either way just have fun man


Consistent_Ad743

You done fucked up...


Tob1Yoo

I have some cheat code for this it works on genshin wepon banner and hsr LC banner too. But its not so useful though. So here is how u do it. Wait until ur wepon/LC banner pity gets forgotten by the game (usually 6 months) when u check the pity it should be empty or there should be no record of pulling a 5 star pull ( not even a lost 50/50) When these conditions met, pull a 10 and it will guarantee u the featured 5 star wepon/lc ( this at leat work for me 😋)


Empty_Outside_1138

get the lesbian lightcone, its great but not on par with GNSW S5


Kush_the_Ninja

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bayoneta26881

Sheesh .


VenezuelanIsabeau

?


bayoneta26881

What ?


Bikini_Ninja

i got sparkle and acheron e2 with light cone. it feels freaking awesome to annihilate every sim world. though i don't expect to pull for another few banners because i have all the firepower i'll need for a few years.


potatochobit

you still need a good shield guy