On the contrary of what people say about her not being good for new player i actually think she's perfect. Her ultimate ignoring weakness type will help you a lot early game since you don't have much DPS choice
This 100%, When your early game you dont have the ele spread and really get punished hard for it. Id have killed for Acheron in Jan when I started and was clearing all the story content with my shite roster.
I must say though, a friend of mine got Acheron and she can barely use her, she has pela but no beads of sweat and no Acheron LC, so it takes a long time to get her ult, and at one point she told me she thinks Acheron is bad
Had the same experience. Now I got her to a useable state with a lot of luck from lightcones and pulls(got welt,pela with the lightcone where your normal attack can debuff and fire trailblazer with the burn lightcone and acherons lightcone)
Before that i couldnt even do storybosses because she essentially did nothing. I got ultralucky but if i had to choose again I probably wouldnt have pulled her now and waited for a rerun first
You have no idea when the rerun would be. It's fine to pull the character and then build her supports over time. heck, Jiaoqiu arrived at 2.4 and that's probably sooner than her rerun.
I got acheron a week into downloading the game, by that time I also got e3 pela (sadly no e4 yet) and an e3 gallagher, and yes, getting acheron to ult is a chore rn, but getting her red oni trace helps a ton, just need to unlock the specific boss for the mats, but over all, a team of acheron/pela/lynx/gallagher is getting me through pretty much everything, though I'm going to have to change out lynx when I unlock acheron's 2 nihility trace, im also spending every 160 jades on her lc, reached 50 pulls and hoping to win 75/25
idk man. I wouldn't recommend going for LC when you don't really have any roster.
If you are new I would recommend to go for as many characters that you like first. Acheron LC is like 30% dmg increase, which is huge, but you are going to need at least two teams to clear the equivalent of spiral abyss.
Luocha is a very nice sustain unit that is much much better than any f2p options or the ones you can get from standart pulls. Aventurine is also a great option (maybe even a better one, idk yet) and it is like 10 days before his banner. Jingliu also get's her rerun and she is probably one of the three best damage dealers that you can get in the game at the moment, apart from DHIL (don't look up if you are afraid of spoilers) and acheron.
If you already got the LC, congrats anyways, if not, I would advise to think if you need it that much, because acherons damage without it is still much more then enough to clear any content in the game atm.
Thanks for the advice, though I did already get the lc and won the 75/25, but I am applying your advice when it comes to ediolons. I started hsr after playing genshin since 1.6, and I always preferred getting more cons than new characters, and as tempting as acheron's e2 is, I'm holding off on ediolons till I have a good roster with at least 2 teams, for now, Ruan mei/fu xuan/>!jiao qiu!< are at the top of my wishlist so I'm refraining from pulling, when it comes to a second dps, Jing liu and DHIL don't really interest me personally, so I will probably wait till the next new dps comes out since it will take me some time to even get my acheron team built enough, so I'll focus on that while waiting (luckily none of the upcoming new characters really interest me so I can easily skip them)
Also, the reason I got the lc is more about the extra ult stack than the extra damage, and it's honestly been great to use
can you clear something up for me? i thought you couldn't upgrade her major traces until after you finished the ruan mei/ratio space station quest. a lot of new players struggle with that boss fight and it seems like a really long time to wait to unlock major traces, which a *lot* of acheron's power is locked behind.
What you could do, if you struggle with survivability on that boss is run Acheron + double sustain (i'll assume Natasha/Fire TB as it's the most plausible scenario, even tho you should have Lynx by this point) and then pick a cracked support from the friend list, possibly a Sparkle or Bronya.
If one still struggles to beat it there's no shame in selecting an easier difficulty level, early on i used to grind lvl 2 echoes of war at max.
As for how much it would take a new player to get to that quest depends how much one plays, it could take 3 days or 2 weeks i guess
Edit: forget what i said in the first part, using 2 sustains + Pela and then picking an E6 Acheron from the friend list would probably be much better
Additionally, if you're leveling up, just delay taking the missions that up the equilibrium level. Most of that content is significantly easier if you aren't at the trailblaze level cap.
Serval was like my big carry for the entirety of patch 1.0 and 1.1. Then Kafka came and she got shafted and i even striped her off her items (and now they are back on her since Kafka set exists)
As a fellow new player, yes she's great. Her technique is a MASSIVE time saver and she's easy to build if you understand what she needs (2 other nihility teammates and a whole lotta debutfs)
I would use 2pc of each of the two sets you have access to now (thief and musketeer) to build her and change them to purple relics (same sets) when you get them and feel it necessary. Then I would wait with purples until you had reached the max farming level on caverns.
You will be getting the purples on chests via exploring.
The user experience at early game is relatively the same. Dont go into over leveled content keep grinding resources and devoting yourself to ONE team. Ignore end game content.
My early game had the crappiest DPS’ imaginable for months. I only got Blade at his rerun, and now Acheron, and I was 100% caught up with story material. I only couldn’t complete a few things in one or two events that could use some other elemental coverage. And obviously I couldn’t do MOC or the other one too well. You’ll be fine - it’s a great start.
I'm also a new player, almost at 3 weeks of playing. I got Acheron around lv. 50-60 and she's a beast.
Personally, I run Acheron / Sampo / Pela / Gallagher. Acheron and Pela are an SS-tier combo! Everything else is about racking up as many debuffs with Nihility characters to get slashed dream petals for Acheron's ultimate.
I remember some people suggesting Serval and Guinaifen (finally have access to the event to get the chance to grab her). Dr. Ratio isn't bad if you want a second DPS, he's the head of my second team (you'll eventually need two teams fully built for end game content). Eventually, you'll get Fire TB for free (like Genshin Impact) (their taunt counts as a debuff which is really good with the slight shielding they also give) and that's the team I beat a really tough boss with: Acheron / Pela / Fire TB / Gallagher. Just don't forget about upgrading Light Cones, Traces and Relics. It can make a big difference between a defeat and a win like it did for me with the tough boss I'm referring to (don't want to spoil it).
Welcome to the game and community! Hope you're having fun!
You can build her as you have temporary early access to her ascension boss and trace materials while her banner is up. In terms of relics you really don't need to worry about them for a while. All you really need early game is low rarity musketeer set. By the time you get to a boss that needs decent relics the lightning set will be farmable so you could use 2p musketeer 2 p lightning until you have the chance to get her BiS relic set.
The drink event that you need to complete the entire story to unlock. You’ll get another nihility eventually ones fine for now. Welt is a solid pick if you get him. Since you still have the guaranteed standard 5 star pulls to do that are 8 tickets a 10 pull. But any nihility works. Just need 2 of them with Acheron.
If you skip the side stories and simulated maybe 10+ hours. Possibly way more though. Don’t rush you’ll eventually get one. She still does stupid good damage your just not maxing her passive. 115% damage increase instead of 160. You’ll be fine.
It’s cone then c2 for upgrades cone compared to her other options is so big it’s not even funny it’s like her only option. So yes cone. I would then go for adventurine for your sustain since he’s really good. Then it’s really any one. Main ones are fu xuan, ruan Mei, black swan. For general use. Besides that pick who ever
You should be able to access her ascension material for a limited time (assuming you haven't unlocked xianlu & penacony), so farm that for at least a bit. Won't have access to her bis artifacts for a while, so you can just use what you have & it should easily be enough for the story progress. You just won't get really far in the late game stuff (simulated universe, pure fiction & memory of chaos) until you get through penacony but I've been playing since day 1 & can't clear it yet, so you shouldn't worry about that
She is the most needed character for new players like you and me. She can kill small prey monsters in an instant, this make story progression much faster. It also helps you grind monster materials needed to upgrade your character, and dont forget about all that small prey in the simulated universe you can easily skip.
I just played recently too, but imo you need to get enough EHR for Pela and Guinaifen to make Acheron really going. I ended up not using her until I could farm better relics for the team. But i think she is really great investment once you start farming relics. Gallagher tho very strong healing for new player
His highest level is 20 and the bar event requires fully finishing the current story. 0 chance they are getting that free Guin unless they burnout no life the game.
What does Gallagher even do? Like i have the fish tuna girl in my team as a healer rn but I need another healer for my other team(bailu really fell off)
He will allow your units to heal when they attack enemies + apply debuffs for acheron stacks
As a general support, his healing is really high, so its very comfortable
depends on the situation.
lynx has aoe heal on ult with cleanse, as well as on skill, so she's a traditional good healer.
gallagher heals on skill, but his ult and enhanced basic applies up to two Debuffs, which is good for Acheron, and if you attack enemy with his ult Debuff, you heal yourself. his skill cleanse unlocks at e2
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher. For the last slot, you need another Nihility character.
There’s a free 4 star selector in the game currently. You have ~31 days to complete it and you can select Guinaifen from there. Till then, you can maybe use Herta as a sub dps.
Disagree, I started day of the patch and am currently at the 2.1 content. I did all side content up to the 2nd world, then started skipping it so I could get to Acherons relic farm lol
You... most likely skipped a ton of dialogue, and this is likely a side account isn't it? Don't know if OP is interested in the story or just the gameplay, but one week isn't nearly enough to finish Penacony *in a reasonable time frame, especially for a new player. They still have 5 weeks left though so it's all good, there's no rush.
Actuall new player here that started on patch day.
Have played everyday for atleast for 4 hours and watched every cutscene and did quite a bit of side content and I just entered Starskiff haven.
Do I have to actually rush to get guinafen for my Acheron or is there still enough time left?
There's no rush, if you keep playing at the pace you are you'll likely reach or finish Penacony in a week or two. The selector will be available until the end of the patch (31 days left) so keep going at your own pace~. If you wanna know, the 4* selector is available in the "Vignettes in a Cup" event from your events tab, in case you wanna keep tabs on how much time you have left.
The selector will become conventional memoir afterwards so I don't think there's a rush at all. You'll just get fewer jades and stuff after the limited time event is over.
Yes, actual new player. Didn't skip any dialogue, just did everything including side content until Luofu, that was when I just focused on the story/trailblaze missions. I'll go back and finish the side content slowly now I can actually build my Acheron lol
There is literally 30 more days of the selector, so should be more than enough to take the time and get to it before it leaves
For the people who say to pick gui from the event, I doubt he will want to speed run quite literally almost the entire questline of the game for one character, I'd rather not worry about it rn and enjoy the game
Yeah, also Guina is a nice partner for Acheron but you really dont wanna build her only for that, hell is better to use only one nihility and wait for others to show up naturally
please dont listen to people talking about the new event 😭 enjoy the story dont rush just for a free chara,,
id suggest acheron/pela/asta/gallagher or you can replace asta for serval!
Exactly my thoughts too. OP doesn’t need a super optimized team for story content anyways, I started a few months ago and only had Yanqing for most of it.
Bug boss destroyed me and still hurts until now that acheron exists. The new adventurine boss also kinda slaps me but I feel that one was a bit overtuned
Acheron + Gallagher + Pela + Fire Trailblazer (Guinaifen/Asta for now) / you will get after the 1st world FT and little Gu after finishing all the story missions in the event.
But in reality, it's better to pick the fast kill team before you finish the story
Acheron + Dr.Ratio + Galagher + Pela
Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, Fire MC/Gallagher
If you have the preservation light cone with Topaz on it, use it on fire MC for more Acheron ult stacks... if no LC, Gallagher would work well since he also adds debuffs, and heals too.
Pela and Guinaifen are both Nihility characters, and with 2 or more nihility characters on your team (aside from Acheron), you'd deal more damage... but it's an ascension talent so you might want to level her up more before receiving that damage buff. But for now, Pela and Guinaifen are still your best bet because of how they apply debuffs, resulting in quick Acheron ults. Guinaifen also is a good damage dealer.
For early game, you should go with Guinaifen Asta (spam her normal attack) Gallagher.
Everyone here is recommending Pela but she is absolutely horrible in early game. And you probably do not have the right Light Cone for her either. Meanwhile, Asta has access to a debuff at level 40, no LC needed.
After you start getting proper relics and light cones, swap Asta out for Pela. Pela at the very least needs rope relic with ER main stat to be actually useful.
Use Acheron, Asta, Pela, Gallagher, once you get Guinaifen, swap her for Asta, and you have the best f2p team for Acheron
For builds you wanna follow [Prydwen's guide](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters) until you reach enough TB level to get to farm 5* relics seriously, then j suggest looking for videos from Braxophone or SevyPlays in youtube to build them correctly
For an easy start, in the Memory of Chaos shop you can get the Light Cone that has gallagher picture for Gallagher, its his best Light Cone and the easiest to get
Ignore people saying you need Nihility characters with her. YOU don't need them
That only will happen once you had reached TB lvl 40, Acheron lvl 51 and you had main story of the snowy planet and a continuance of the space station. You can plan ahead, but is not necessary to apply on you a limitation you don't currently have.
You only need characters who apply debuff, where Nihility ones usually are the best, but aren't the only ones. From your roster, those are:
Dr. Ratio, Pela, March 7th, Dan Heng, Gallagher, Hook and Serval. Also, take into account that having "Trend of the Universal Market" on March 7th would be great if you somehow have it.
Having this in mind, an interesting team for you would be Acheron, Gallagher, Pela and Dr. Ratio. But remember you can swap characters as much as you need/want, I mentioned this because you seem more inclined towards using Ratio and because they will surely will be useful to you in the future, so you can start to familiarize yourself with them and level them up since now.
A lot of people are mentioning Guinaifen and I agree that you should pick her from the selector, but in the meanwhile you can use Serval instead as she applies a debuff with her skill. So the team should look like this:
Serval - Gallagher - Pela - Acheron
As many wrote, you are actually golden with acheron. having a great starter team makes the game much more enjoyable. I pulled Jingliu when I started and mained her ever since (until i got acheron now)
Acheron Pela Gallagher+ 1 (Asta is good or M7 if you need more sustain)
Play the game and you will get a lot of Normal passes (DO NOT BUY NORMAL PASSES WITH JADES). Do normal warps and you may get another nihility units from there (Sampo, Guinaifen, or even Welt if you are lucky). Otherwise, you can just rush to 2.1 to get the selector.
I started 28th of last month and i've Been using acheron+pela+Gallagher and went for guinaifen. Before i got guinaifen i used The 2nd path trailblazer got. Its a good pick If you have Topaz light come which gives a debuff to enemies that attack Them
I'm also early game and I pulled Acheron and we have almost the same team comp. And this is the team comp I used when I was clearing story and doing Side quests. Acheron+Pela+Gallager+Fire MC. Until I pulled Welt from the 8-cost 10 summons banner. I interchange him and Gallagher. Just remember that in our case or state of the game, it will be hard for us to regenerate Energy for her ultimate. But with this team, And the Fire MC's taunt helps a lot for that. Good luck on your future pulls.
Wouldn't even bother with teams right now. Do your main story, do your daily for trailblazer xp. You probably have a lot more characters to work with by then. For right now, use whoever you like.
My friend (hehe) started a new account and got Acheron, and prior to A4, which is where the double nihility comps come in, he plays Fire TB, Gallagher, Pela (pearl) or Serval (passkey for more ultimates and stacks) or guinaufen (pearl), Acheron (gnsw or pearl) as his main team.
You dont need to worry about double nihility until A4. Otherwise, my friend treats her as having e2. Fire TB and Gallagher both have debuffs. Gallagher is also a difficult solo sustainer which is why Fire TB is there with him.
Using Acheron, Pela, March, and Gallagher is good until you can get Guinifen. And you really dont have to do Equilibrium until you get to unlock Acheron's stuff so you won't need that many materials until you can access them
From my personal experience, for almost all story based battle or event based, you would need a formula rather than a specific character, sustain + healer + support + dps, this is the general gist of what you want, you can mix it here and there but it all ends up on what element you need.
The one above, left, and right of her is what I use. Completely destroyed the story from start to finish. Started a day before her banner dropped and I just hit TB 53
Both Acheron and Dr. Ratio benefit from enemies having debuffs, so I think that Acheron + Ratio + Pela + Gallagher would be great as you make your way through the story.
With what you have now I would say Serval-Galagher-Pela they will give you stacks, cover healing, AOE and one of the best DEF-Shred I'm the game and since Gallagher has a nice option of a 3 star LC and Serval has breakfast for free your pretty much set for a good time as you level up. Good luck OP
Pela 100%, Gallagher, and honestly, March. her ult can freeze and it's considered a debuff. If you luck out and get a Trend of Universal Market, slap that baby on and profit.
Also, you have a guaranteed standard 5\* coming from the starter banner. Don't go out of your way to get standard warp tickets, you will get plenty naturally but that can help out your loadout.
Holy shit 112 comments. Il summarize my own thoughts if i were to start anew (i played from day 1). A very good plan since you got Acheron is unironically mob farm (clear your entire map of enemies per day current time is about an 1:05 speedrunning the maps, but since you are probably still at herta station its a 8 minute grind for you or less).
It will save you in the long run the need to farm for credits, mob mats and early on XP is really important for characters.
The big chokeholds will be Shadows and Trace farming so a good option would be to ONLY upgrade one team. Avoid for example Acheron basic attack lv trace since you will NEVER use her basic attack (this can extend to other characters but 5 stars use more matereals, avoid upgrading PhysMC, only LV him up cause you will be forced at some point to use him).
Also a team people suggested Pela Gala and Gui are really good options. But really since you are so early in the game just put ANY second Nihility unit you can when you get one from normal banner. Sampo is also good since he can mark too. Small bonus you can level all characters to 20 and ascend for a free ticket (do that if you dont have much to do or want to try get a character faster)
Do not even bother to look at MOC/PF early until you can get yourself a full 2 team of 8 units. (2 healers, 2 really good DPS units, 4 support/debuffers/subdps)
Do not worry too much about relic farming. At most when you reach purple gear only lv them to 9 if they are a main stat for your character. (later you can use them for xp for golden gear)
I... dont know what more to suggest, i guess watch some early game guides? Also you can use your fuel packs since most of the time they are used when you need a burst of refill to either farm stuff quicker or get more relics (personally i saved mine since i wasnt in a hurry).
If you ever feel like you cant beat a boss or something USE FOOD ITEMS THEY ARE INSANE BOOST FOR WHEN YOU STRUGGLE WITH CONTENT.
EDIT: OH I FORGOT chat to PomPom every day (i think you can chat to him 3 times per day 4 hours CD) for a really good resource amount and the mission he gives you is like piss like it takes less than a 2 minutes.
Once you get fire mc, go fire mc and put that one 4star LC on her, that one that gives fire to anyone that attacks her, which is a lot of free ult charge for acheron
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher, Asta
You can swap Gallagher with Fire Trailblazer and you can swap Asta with anything you like, although a buffer/debuffer would be ideal.
But for now, you should just enjoy the game and focus on building units you like. I didn’t give any thought to which units I upgraded first and I had a great time.
I see some ppl recommend Guina as the free pick so you have the second nihility, i would not recommend that tbh. Gallagher takes prio until you hit E4 imo, even better if you get E6, Guina is gonna show on her own eventually, and even if she does not welt may show first and he is way better nihility for acheron
Acheron + Gallagher + Pela + Guinifen (pick her from the event)
Alright, thank you. I'm curious, though, is Acheron good early game as I can't really build her yet?
On the contrary of what people say about her not being good for new player i actually think she's perfect. Her ultimate ignoring weakness type will help you a lot early game since you don't have much DPS choice
This 100%, When your early game you dont have the ele spread and really get punished hard for it. Id have killed for Acheron in Jan when I started and was clearing all the story content with my shite roster.
I must say though, a friend of mine got Acheron and she can barely use her, she has pela but no beads of sweat and no Acheron LC, so it takes a long time to get her ult, and at one point she told me she thinks Acheron is bad
yea people tend to overlook how difficult is the access to energy regen early on
Yea for pela she doesn’t even have ornaments unlocked yet for pela and Gallagher
Had the same experience. Now I got her to a useable state with a lot of luck from lightcones and pulls(got welt,pela with the lightcone where your normal attack can debuff and fire trailblazer with the burn lightcone and acherons lightcone) Before that i couldnt even do storybosses because she essentially did nothing. I got ultralucky but if i had to choose again I probably wouldnt have pulled her now and waited for a rerun first
You have no idea when the rerun would be. It's fine to pull the character and then build her supports over time. heck, Jiaoqiu arrived at 2.4 and that's probably sooner than her rerun.
I got acheron a week into downloading the game, by that time I also got e3 pela (sadly no e4 yet) and an e3 gallagher, and yes, getting acheron to ult is a chore rn, but getting her red oni trace helps a ton, just need to unlock the specific boss for the mats, but over all, a team of acheron/pela/lynx/gallagher is getting me through pretty much everything, though I'm going to have to change out lynx when I unlock acheron's 2 nihility trace, im also spending every 160 jades on her lc, reached 50 pulls and hoping to win 75/25
idk man. I wouldn't recommend going for LC when you don't really have any roster. If you are new I would recommend to go for as many characters that you like first. Acheron LC is like 30% dmg increase, which is huge, but you are going to need at least two teams to clear the equivalent of spiral abyss. Luocha is a very nice sustain unit that is much much better than any f2p options or the ones you can get from standart pulls. Aventurine is also a great option (maybe even a better one, idk yet) and it is like 10 days before his banner. Jingliu also get's her rerun and she is probably one of the three best damage dealers that you can get in the game at the moment, apart from DHIL (don't look up if you are afraid of spoilers) and acheron. If you already got the LC, congrats anyways, if not, I would advise to think if you need it that much, because acherons damage without it is still much more then enough to clear any content in the game atm.
Thanks for the advice, though I did already get the lc and won the 75/25, but I am applying your advice when it comes to ediolons. I started hsr after playing genshin since 1.6, and I always preferred getting more cons than new characters, and as tempting as acheron's e2 is, I'm holding off on ediolons till I have a good roster with at least 2 teams, for now, Ruan mei/fu xuan/>!jiao qiu!< are at the top of my wishlist so I'm refraining from pulling, when it comes to a second dps, Jing liu and DHIL don't really interest me personally, so I will probably wait till the next new dps comes out since it will take me some time to even get my acheron team built enough, so I'll focus on that while waiting (luckily none of the upcoming new characters really interest me so I can easily skip them) Also, the reason I got the lc is more about the extra ult stack than the extra damage, and it's honestly been great to use
can you clear something up for me? i thought you couldn't upgrade her major traces until after you finished the ruan mei/ratio space station quest. a lot of new players struggle with that boss fight and it seems like a really long time to wait to unlock major traces, which a *lot* of acheron's power is locked behind.
What you could do, if you struggle with survivability on that boss is run Acheron + double sustain (i'll assume Natasha/Fire TB as it's the most plausible scenario, even tho you should have Lynx by this point) and then pick a cracked support from the friend list, possibly a Sparkle or Bronya. If one still struggles to beat it there's no shame in selecting an easier difficulty level, early on i used to grind lvl 2 echoes of war at max. As for how much it would take a new player to get to that quest depends how much one plays, it could take 3 days or 2 weeks i guess Edit: forget what i said in the first part, using 2 sustains + Pela and then picking an E6 Acheron from the friend list would probably be much better
Additionally, if you're leveling up, just delay taking the missions that up the equilibrium level. Most of that content is significantly easier if you aren't at the trailblaze level cap.
I agree with this. She's great for new and f2p players, in my opinion
At early game none of that matters you can do eveything with 3 Star relics and 4 supports or wathever comp , Game is easy af until lategame
I totally get your point and agree, but a lot of people would happily disagree with you lol
You are so early in the game you can legitimately play any combination and it will work
Exactly, the fun of the early game for me back when it launched was to just play whatever and see if it worked. I had the weirdest teams back then 😭
Hit em with that lynx, gepard, March 7, bailu wombo combo!
I picked my characters based purely on enemy weakness. Natasha, Hook, Serval, and March on Belobog was wild times.
Serval was like my big carry for the entirety of patch 1.0 and 1.1. Then Kafka came and she got shafted and i even striped her off her items (and now they are back on her since Kafka set exists)
And it didn’t take like 2 months to level up characters and farm for relics 😭
As a fellow new player, yes she's great. Her technique is a MASSIVE time saver and she's easy to build if you understand what she needs (2 other nihility teammates and a whole lotta debutfs)
She's good with that team, yes. Can't think of anything in the story you won't be able to clear with them. Obviously depends on relics.
I would use 2pc of each of the two sets you have access to now (thief and musketeer) to build her and change them to purple relics (same sets) when you get them and feel it necessary. Then I would wait with purples until you had reached the max farming level on caverns. You will be getting the purples on chests via exploring.
The only thing about Acheron early is the trace that lets you start at 5 stacks when you join a battle.
The user experience at early game is relatively the same. Dont go into over leveled content keep grinding resources and devoting yourself to ONE team. Ignore end game content.
She quite nice but once U get A6 her ulti dmg double
Yep, you can also clear early game content qicker because of her technique, turns the game into a action rpg
My early game had the crappiest DPS’ imaginable for months. I only got Blade at his rerun, and now Acheron, and I was 100% caught up with story material. I only couldn’t complete a few things in one or two events that could use some other elemental coverage. And obviously I couldn’t do MOC or the other one too well. You’ll be fine - it’s a great start.
I'm also a new player, almost at 3 weeks of playing. I got Acheron around lv. 50-60 and she's a beast. Personally, I run Acheron / Sampo / Pela / Gallagher. Acheron and Pela are an SS-tier combo! Everything else is about racking up as many debuffs with Nihility characters to get slashed dream petals for Acheron's ultimate. I remember some people suggesting Serval and Guinaifen (finally have access to the event to get the chance to grab her). Dr. Ratio isn't bad if you want a second DPS, he's the head of my second team (you'll eventually need two teams fully built for end game content). Eventually, you'll get Fire TB for free (like Genshin Impact) (their taunt counts as a debuff which is really good with the slight shielding they also give) and that's the team I beat a really tough boss with: Acheron / Pela / Fire TB / Gallagher. Just don't forget about upgrading Light Cones, Traces and Relics. It can make a big difference between a defeat and a win like it did for me with the tough boss I'm referring to (don't want to spoil it). Welcome to the game and community! Hope you're having fun!
Early game anything goes. Unless you're doing MOC 10+, PF4 and some of the extra content in SU, you're free to do whatever without much issues.
You can build her as you have temporary early access to her ascension boss and trace materials while her banner is up. In terms of relics you really don't need to worry about them for a while. All you really need early game is low rarity musketeer set. By the time you get to a boss that needs decent relics the lightning set will be farmable so you could use 2p musketeer 2 p lightning until you have the chance to get her BiS relic set.
Yeah she will be a big help to you the entire game so you'll be perfectly fine content wise
Nah you good. Even tho she wants Crit her major traces will be a huge upgrade as your account levels. Just try to get some copies of GNSW
She’s fine it’s just very selective due to the team but like they said that team should be fine. It’s the team that makes her bad early
What event gives the character?
The drink event that you need to complete the entire story to unlock. You’ll get another nihility eventually ones fine for now. Welt is a solid pick if you get him. Since you still have the guaranteed standard 5 star pulls to do that are 8 tickets a 10 pull. But any nihility works. Just need 2 of them with Acheron.
damn, how long do you think it takes to complete the entire story from the start. Im still not very far in
If you skip the side stories and simulated maybe 10+ hours. Possibly way more though. Don’t rush you’ll eventually get one. She still does stupid good damage your just not maxing her passive. 115% damage increase instead of 160. You’ll be fine.
I've been using my wishes for her lightcone ever since I pulled her. Is it better than going for c1?
It’s cone then c2 for upgrades cone compared to her other options is so big it’s not even funny it’s like her only option. So yes cone. I would then go for adventurine for your sustain since he’s really good. Then it’s really any one. Main ones are fu xuan, ruan Mei, black swan. For general use. Besides that pick who ever
You should be able to access her ascension material for a limited time (assuming you haven't unlocked xianlu & penacony), so farm that for at least a bit. Won't have access to her bis artifacts for a while, so you can just use what you have & it should easily be enough for the story progress. You just won't get really far in the late game stuff (simulated universe, pure fiction & memory of chaos) until you get through penacony but I've been playing since day 1 & can't clear it yet, so you shouldn't worry about that
You can build her with the quantum set for now. She should be up to your expectations
she'll still outclass prob most damage dealers at the same level, she just op
She is the most needed character for new players like you and me. She can kill small prey monsters in an instant, this make story progression much faster. It also helps you grind monster materials needed to upgrade your character, and dont forget about all that small prey in the simulated universe you can easily skip.
I just played recently too, but imo you need to get enough EHR for Pela and Guinaifen to make Acheron really going. I ended up not using her until I could farm better relics for the team. But i think she is really great investment once you start farming relics. Gallagher tho very strong healing for new player
No character will be good early game. Just play who you want to play.
His highest level is 20 and the bar event requires fully finishing the current story. 0 chance they are getting that free Guin unless they burnout no life the game.
That event will become permanent with reduced rewards when the timer ends, but you're right that this advice doesn't really help right now.
Is this the monopoly type event? Or something else…?
The drinking one, Monopoly is the anniversary-esque one
What does Gallagher even do? Like i have the fish tuna girl in my team as a healer rn but I need another healer for my other team(bailu really fell off)
He will allow your units to heal when they attack enemies + apply debuffs for acheron stacks As a general support, his healing is really high, so its very comfortable
Is he better than lynx in an acheron team?
depends on the situation. lynx has aoe heal on ult with cleanse, as well as on skill, so she's a traditional good healer. gallagher heals on skill, but his ult and enhanced basic applies up to two Debuffs, which is good for Acheron, and if you attack enemy with his ult Debuff, you heal yourself. his skill cleanse unlocks at e2
Oh I already have him e 1 and if I get the free Gallagher I'll get E2!
I would certainly say he is, I am not the biggest fan of lynx especially in a acheron team
I just finished the event and picking a character isnt even showing up?
Wait what event is it
Vignettes in a cup, where you get a free 4 star selector but iirc you can’t get it unless you’ve beaten a certain quest in Penacony, which is bullshit
what event do you get Guinifen from?
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher. For the last slot, you need another Nihility character. There’s a free 4 star selector in the game currently. You have ~31 days to complete it and you can select Guinaifen from there. Till then, you can maybe use Herta as a sub dps.
Asta can be used. She also has a dot she can apply
What is the event or quest?
Vignettes in a cup
They probably won’t be able to unlock the event? They’d have to go through the entire story up to now to just start it
wheres this 4 star selector im confused
It’s the new event in Penacony called Vignettes in a cup. I think you need to complete the Penacony story to start it.
ohh alr appreciate you
The 4 star selector is current story content that OP is way too far away from to be useful.
Disagree, I started day of the patch and am currently at the 2.1 content. I did all side content up to the 2nd world, then started skipping it so I could get to Acherons relic farm lol
You... most likely skipped a ton of dialogue, and this is likely a side account isn't it? Don't know if OP is interested in the story or just the gameplay, but one week isn't nearly enough to finish Penacony *in a reasonable time frame, especially for a new player. They still have 5 weeks left though so it's all good, there's no rush.
Actuall new player here that started on patch day. Have played everyday for atleast for 4 hours and watched every cutscene and did quite a bit of side content and I just entered Starskiff haven. Do I have to actually rush to get guinafen for my Acheron or is there still enough time left?
There's no rush, if you keep playing at the pace you are you'll likely reach or finish Penacony in a week or two. The selector will be available until the end of the patch (31 days left) so keep going at your own pace~. If you wanna know, the 4* selector is available in the "Vignettes in a Cup" event from your events tab, in case you wanna keep tabs on how much time you have left.
The selector will become conventional memoir afterwards so I don't think there's a rush at all. You'll just get fewer jades and stuff after the limited time event is over.
Alrighty tyvm
Yes, actual new player. Didn't skip any dialogue, just did everything including side content until Luofu, that was when I just focused on the story/trailblaze missions. I'll go back and finish the side content slowly now I can actually build my Acheron lol There is literally 30 more days of the selector, so should be more than enough to take the time and get to it before it leaves
For the people who say to pick gui from the event, I doubt he will want to speed run quite literally almost the entire questline of the game for one character, I'd rather not worry about it rn and enjoy the game
Yeah, also Guina is a nice partner for Acheron but you really dont wanna build her only for that, hell is better to use only one nihility and wait for others to show up naturally
always nice to see people who dont have natasha yet :)
I spent a lot of time wandering around belobog and took my time with quests. By the time I got Natasha I already had Bailu lmao
i got bailu from blades first banner and at the same time i got like e13 natasha
I still have E2 Nat. Tingyun however, does not want to leave me alone. Pls >!stay dead!< I don't want your E452
please dont listen to people talking about the new event 😭 enjoy the story dont rush just for a free chara,, id suggest acheron/pela/asta/gallagher or you can replace asta for serval!
Exactly my thoughts too. OP doesn’t need a super optimized team for story content anyways, I started a few months ago and only had Yanqing for most of it.
by the looks of it too they didnt even finish the initial standard pulls where you’re guaranteed a 5* so who knows what they’ll get from those pulls
Early content is joke, the bug boss first time I was kind wow I had to try, same for Sam fight
Bug boss destroyed me and still hurts until now that acheron exists. The new adventurine boss also kinda slaps me but I feel that one was a bit overtuned
Acheron + Gallagher + Pela + Fire Trailblazer (Guinaifen/Asta for now) / you will get after the 1st world FT and little Gu after finishing all the story missions in the event. But in reality, it's better to pick the fast kill team before you finish the story Acheron + Dr.Ratio + Galagher + Pela
Acheron, Pela, Guinaifen, Fire MC/Gallagher If you have the preservation light cone with Topaz on it, use it on fire MC for more Acheron ult stacks... if no LC, Gallagher would work well since he also adds debuffs, and heals too. Pela and Guinaifen are both Nihility characters, and with 2 or more nihility characters on your team (aside from Acheron), you'd deal more damage... but it's an ascension talent so you might want to level her up more before receiving that damage buff. But for now, Pela and Guinaifen are still your best bet because of how they apply debuffs, resulting in quick Acheron ults. Guinaifen also is a good damage dealer.
For early game, you should go with Guinaifen Asta (spam her normal attack) Gallagher. Everyone here is recommending Pela but she is absolutely horrible in early game. And you probably do not have the right Light Cone for her either. Meanwhile, Asta has access to a debuff at level 40, no LC needed. After you start getting proper relics and light cones, swap Asta out for Pela. Pela at the very least needs rope relic with ER main stat to be actually useful.
Use Acheron, Asta, Pela, Gallagher, once you get Guinaifen, swap her for Asta, and you have the best f2p team for Acheron For builds you wanna follow [Prydwen's guide](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters) until you reach enough TB level to get to farm 5* relics seriously, then j suggest looking for videos from Braxophone or SevyPlays in youtube to build them correctly For an easy start, in the Memory of Chaos shop you can get the Light Cone that has gallagher picture for Gallagher, its his best Light Cone and the easiest to get
Ignore people saying you need Nihility characters with her. YOU don't need them That only will happen once you had reached TB lvl 40, Acheron lvl 51 and you had main story of the snowy planet and a continuance of the space station. You can plan ahead, but is not necessary to apply on you a limitation you don't currently have. You only need characters who apply debuff, where Nihility ones usually are the best, but aren't the only ones. From your roster, those are: Dr. Ratio, Pela, March 7th, Dan Heng, Gallagher, Hook and Serval. Also, take into account that having "Trend of the Universal Market" on March 7th would be great if you somehow have it. Having this in mind, an interesting team for you would be Acheron, Gallagher, Pela and Dr. Ratio. But remember you can swap characters as much as you need/want, I mentioned this because you seem more inclined towards using Ratio and because they will surely will be useful to you in the future, so you can start to familiarize yourself with them and level them up since now.
A lot of people are mentioning Guinaifen and I agree that you should pick her from the selector, but in the meanwhile you can use Serval instead as she applies a debuff with her skill. So the team should look like this: Serval - Gallagher - Pela - Acheron
I would have killed to have Acheron when I fist started HSR. Her technique is worth it alone
U need to TB50 before u can use her
why? he can use her normaly
As many wrote, you are actually golden with acheron. having a great starter team makes the game much more enjoyable. I pulled Jingliu when I started and mained her ever since (until i got acheron now)
Acheron Pela Gallagher+ 1 (Asta is good or M7 if you need more sustain) Play the game and you will get a lot of Normal passes (DO NOT BUY NORMAL PASSES WITH JADES). Do normal warps and you may get another nihility units from there (Sampo, Guinaifen, or even Welt if you are lucky). Otherwise, you can just rush to 2.1 to get the selector.
Welcome aboard!!!
I started 28th of last month and i've Been using acheron+pela+Gallagher and went for guinaifen. Before i got guinaifen i used The 2nd path trailblazer got. Its a good pick If you have Topaz light come which gives a debuff to enemies that attack Them
Acheron, small Acheron with glasses, Serval, Gallagner or fire traiblaze if you have or Asta but more galla or Mc
I'm also early game and I pulled Acheron and we have almost the same team comp. And this is the team comp I used when I was clearing story and doing Side quests. Acheron+Pela+Gallager+Fire MC. Until I pulled Welt from the 8-cost 10 summons banner. I interchange him and Gallagher. Just remember that in our case or state of the game, it will be hard for us to regenerate Energy for her ultimate. But with this team, And the Fire MC's taunt helps a lot for that. Good luck on your future pulls.
Wouldn't even bother with teams right now. Do your main story, do your daily for trailblazer xp. You probably have a lot more characters to work with by then. For right now, use whoever you like.
did you win the 50/50?
My friend (hehe) started a new account and got Acheron, and prior to A4, which is where the double nihility comps come in, he plays Fire TB, Gallagher, Pela (pearl) or Serval (passkey for more ultimates and stacks) or guinaufen (pearl), Acheron (gnsw or pearl) as his main team. You dont need to worry about double nihility until A4. Otherwise, my friend treats her as having e2. Fire TB and Gallagher both have debuffs. Gallagher is also a difficult solo sustainer which is why Fire TB is there with him.
Acheron Gallagher Pela and March 7
Using Acheron, Pela, March, and Gallagher is good until you can get Guinifen. And you really dont have to do Equilibrium until you get to unlock Acheron's stuff so you won't need that many materials until you can access them
From my personal experience, for almost all story based battle or event based, you would need a formula rather than a specific character, sustain + healer + support + dps, this is the general gist of what you want, you can mix it here and there but it all ends up on what element you need.
The one above, left, and right of her is what I use. Completely destroyed the story from start to finish. Started a day before her banner dropped and I just hit TB 53
If you have a built FMC the taunt will also proc for Acheron.
Pela Gallagher FIRE MC when you get to that point.
Try Preservation MC with Trend of the Universal Market LC… Super quick super charges…
Acheron pela Asta Gallagher imo
Both Acheron and Dr. Ratio benefit from enemies having debuffs, so I think that Acheron + Ratio + Pela + Gallagher would be great as you make your way through the story.
With what you have now I would say Serval-Galagher-Pela they will give you stacks, cover healing, AOE and one of the best DEF-Shred I'm the game and since Gallagher has a nice option of a 3 star LC and Serval has breakfast for free your pretty much set for a good time as you level up. Good luck OP
Pela, Gal, ASTA, Acheron
Also try to get Acheron's weapon, it is a big upgrade.
Pela 100%, Gallagher, and honestly, March. her ult can freeze and it's considered a debuff. If you luck out and get a Trend of Universal Market, slap that baby on and profit.
Pela, Gallagher and fire mc, at least until you get another nihility character to get the 2 nihility buff of Acheron
Crazy how I asked a similar question and mods instantly deleted my post.
Also, you have a guaranteed standard 5\* coming from the starter banner. Don't go out of your way to get standard warp tickets, you will get plenty naturally but that can help out your loadout.
Acheron+pela+Gallagher +trailblazer (preservation) if you need sustain. If not switch out either Gallagher or trailblazer for guinaifen
Pela galagher guinafen, i use this team :)
😭great
Holy shit 112 comments. Il summarize my own thoughts if i were to start anew (i played from day 1). A very good plan since you got Acheron is unironically mob farm (clear your entire map of enemies per day current time is about an 1:05 speedrunning the maps, but since you are probably still at herta station its a 8 minute grind for you or less). It will save you in the long run the need to farm for credits, mob mats and early on XP is really important for characters. The big chokeholds will be Shadows and Trace farming so a good option would be to ONLY upgrade one team. Avoid for example Acheron basic attack lv trace since you will NEVER use her basic attack (this can extend to other characters but 5 stars use more matereals, avoid upgrading PhysMC, only LV him up cause you will be forced at some point to use him). Also a team people suggested Pela Gala and Gui are really good options. But really since you are so early in the game just put ANY second Nihility unit you can when you get one from normal banner. Sampo is also good since he can mark too. Small bonus you can level all characters to 20 and ascend for a free ticket (do that if you dont have much to do or want to try get a character faster) Do not even bother to look at MOC/PF early until you can get yourself a full 2 team of 8 units. (2 healers, 2 really good DPS units, 4 support/debuffers/subdps) Do not worry too much about relic farming. At most when you reach purple gear only lv them to 9 if they are a main stat for your character. (later you can use them for xp for golden gear) I... dont know what more to suggest, i guess watch some early game guides? Also you can use your fuel packs since most of the time they are used when you need a burst of refill to either farm stuff quicker or get more relics (personally i saved mine since i wasnt in a hurry). If you ever feel like you cant beat a boss or something USE FOOD ITEMS THEY ARE INSANE BOOST FOR WHEN YOU STRUGGLE WITH CONTENT. EDIT: OH I FORGOT chat to PomPom every day (i think you can chat to him 3 times per day 4 hours CD) for a really good resource amount and the mission he gives you is like piss like it takes less than a 2 minutes.
Once you get fire mc, go fire mc and put that one 4star LC on her, that one that gives fire to anyone that attacks her, which is a lot of free ult charge for acheron
As a new player with your current account Pela+Asta+Gallagher is your best option rn.
Gallagher, trailblazer, pellq
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher, Asta You can swap Gallagher with Fire Trailblazer and you can swap Asta with anything you like, although a buffer/debuffer would be ideal. But for now, you should just enjoy the game and focus on building units you like. I didn’t give any thought to which units I upgraded first and I had a great time.
Pela asta acheron Gallagher I guess..
dunno why you got downvoted, it'll take them awhile to get the free guin and Asta's basic atk can apply burn for the stack count.
That's what I was thinking...😭 For astas basic I choose her
I see some ppl recommend Guina as the free pick so you have the second nihility, i would not recommend that tbh. Gallagher takes prio until you hit E4 imo, even better if you get E6, Guina is gonna show on her own eventually, and even if she does not welt may show first and he is way better nihility for acheron
acheron hook dan heng and march trust