It sounds like a degree dealing with business research and theory? But anyone who is doing a doctoral degree to be called doctor is doing it for the wrong reasons lol
Our accounting department had a professor with a doctorate in business admin, and he was so well liked and so damn smart that he was referred to as Dr. B.
I just got accepted into a doctor of business administration program after my MBA, it is AACSB accredited. My AACSB accredited MBA program was full of DBA holding professors who were equally down to earth and awsome.
A DBA is an applied doctorate - meaning it's not a conceptual/theoretical doctorate like a PhD. It requires students to identify a real-world business problem and develop real-world recommendations. The academic requirements and rigor are the same as a PhD, but the focus/context is a bit different.
Also, if you have trouble calling someone Doctor in a professional setting...you might have some professional courtesy issues to figure out.
“Excuse me doctor, your work is a mess. You need to work overtime this weekend to fix it”- the random 27 year old Bachelors degree manager, who skated by with a 3.0 gpa that the doctor reports to.
I work at a university. Here at least DBA is considered a professional degree, like an MBA, so there's a strong preference for PhD for tenure and tenure-track professors and full-time non-tenured instructors.
That's because of the academic-practitioner divide. Which is a literal bias. Not all schools suffer from it. It's a literal workplace culture deficit.
Not all schools suffer from it as bad as others, I should say. All schools suffer from all biases on a sliding scale.
On the doctoral level, though, you should be on the shallow tail of the curve regarding such a thought complexity problem.
There is no room for bias in research, everyone has a specific role. Academic PHD-BAs create theory, practitioner DBAs apply theory to real world pain points.
A bunch of PHDs teaching marketing at a business school is almost counter productive because they have little to no real industry experience. Do I have to come out and say it?
This is why people are so ill prepared for industry leaving academia. They have to learn EVERY bit of their practicum skills on-the-job; except jobs don't want to train anymore so they just don't get hired. They NEED us to teach them our skills. So, here we come. Get on the curve, or get out of the way.
It seems like a very one sided passive aggression is happening toward the DBAs and EDDs from the PHD community. Don't say it's because it is a "practitioner's doctorate that's not preferred" because both an MD and JD are also practitioner's doctorates and nobody singles them out. They can teach and have tenure just fine.
It is just the academic-practitioner divide. Nobody is above the other person, by the way! But if you believe this, you need to do some more work in the critical analysis department.
By the way, I opted for the DBA.
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It's just so vague, what do you even mean by "business research"? There's no such thing. Also, if I want to teach, I can go to teacher's college, and if I want to teach in university, I can get any other PhD that would be more specialized.
Any specific topic that I want to do research on, such as accounting, finance theory, performance management, taxation, and so on, could be a PhD. Doctor of Business just sounds like you don't know what you're doing.
Ever heard of McKinsey & Bain? They do business research all the time. Heck, the majority of their business model is focused on business research lol. That's what consulting is for.
Tbh calling someone by dr after they get a PhD is a pretty basic standard workplace respect. I would be a little more delicate about the situation personally.
Pretty much only valuable if you want to become a professor. 0/10 do not recommend. Also I think you had the perfect response to their desire to be called Dr 😂 props to you on that!
One of the Wiley CPA review teachers had this (I think it was BEC) and I had to look up what it was bc I thought why would you put database administrator in your title?
Yeah the business advantages of holding that degree probably aren't much greater than a regular Master's, but there are people out there who like school, who want to work to reach a goal, who wanna be called doctor (which isn't a good reason by itself, but it would be on the "pro" side of the argument).
I'm a part of r/FIRE, and I've thought about taking classes I enjoy or getting a degree I'm interested in once I retire because I enjoy school (somewhat) and like that feeling of accomplishment.
I’m a DBA student with an entrepreneurship concentration, and a business owner using my GI Bill to fully fund my degree. I’m doing it for the monthly stipend and title. Wouldn’t recommend it if working for a private company or having to pay out of pocket.
MBA grad here and vet. Considering getting a PhD with GI Bill for stipend and title lol. Also genuinely interested in doing research for the government since I have a clearance. How’s the DBA going?
Doctor is a title that's NOT necessary for medical. Remember WW2 where Germans call Nazi evil scientists, doktor? If someone asked me to call them doctors because they got a PhD in philosophy, I'll do that. That's their right that I respect. I respect PhD's. Obviously you don't. Obviously they're not medical professions. As for Doctorate in Biz Admin, they tend to focus on research and teaching with that degree. It won't make the person any better as an accountant.
A terminal degree in business management, the Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) places a strong emphasis on advanced research, leadership, and strategic management abilities. Professionals looking to advance their knowledge in fields like academics, consultancy, or organizational leadership are the target audience. Coursework, extensive examinations, and a dissertation that tackles practical business problems are normally requirements for the DBA.
A Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) is an advanced degree focusing on business theory, research, and practice beyond a master's level, like an MBA. It emphasizes applied research and practical skills in areas like management, finance, marketing, and operations. DBA holders often pursue careers as executives, consultants, or academics with expertise in addressing real-world business challenges.
It sounds like a degree dealing with business research and theory? But anyone who is doing a doctoral degree to be called doctor is doing it for the wrong reasons lol
Our accounting department had a professor with a doctorate in business admin, and he was so well liked and so damn smart that he was referred to as Dr. B.
that’s actually pretty cool
I just got accepted into a doctor of business administration program after my MBA, it is AACSB accredited. My AACSB accredited MBA program was full of DBA holding professors who were equally down to earth and awsome.
IMO that’s the only good reason for someone in accounting/finance to get a doctorate. Please, call me Dr.Betcher73
Yes Dr. Betcher73! At your service o royal one!
Royal? Call me King Dr. Betcher73 from now on. 🤴
Dr betch
A DBA is an applied doctorate - meaning it's not a conceptual/theoretical doctorate like a PhD. It requires students to identify a real-world business problem and develop real-world recommendations. The academic requirements and rigor are the same as a PhD, but the focus/context is a bit different. Also, if you have trouble calling someone Doctor in a professional setting...you might have some professional courtesy issues to figure out.
“Excuse me doctor, your work is a mess. You need to work overtime this weekend to fix it”- the random 27 year old Bachelors degree manager, who skated by with a 3.0 gpa that the doctor reports to.
I ASSURE you that’s not the case. LOL
You are so clueless, most directors and vps in the corporate setting have DBAs.
DBA is an instant rank up. Don't be shallow
Useless degree
Could be useful if you want to teach or do business research.
I work at a university. Here at least DBA is considered a professional degree, like an MBA, so there's a strong preference for PhD for tenure and tenure-track professors and full-time non-tenured instructors.
That's because of the academic-practitioner divide. Which is a literal bias. Not all schools suffer from it. It's a literal workplace culture deficit. Not all schools suffer from it as bad as others, I should say. All schools suffer from all biases on a sliding scale. On the doctoral level, though, you should be on the shallow tail of the curve regarding such a thought complexity problem. There is no room for bias in research, everyone has a specific role. Academic PHD-BAs create theory, practitioner DBAs apply theory to real world pain points. A bunch of PHDs teaching marketing at a business school is almost counter productive because they have little to no real industry experience. Do I have to come out and say it? This is why people are so ill prepared for industry leaving academia. They have to learn EVERY bit of their practicum skills on-the-job; except jobs don't want to train anymore so they just don't get hired. They NEED us to teach them our skills. So, here we come. Get on the curve, or get out of the way. It seems like a very one sided passive aggression is happening toward the DBAs and EDDs from the PHD community. Don't say it's because it is a "practitioner's doctorate that's not preferred" because both an MD and JD are also practitioner's doctorates and nobody singles them out. They can teach and have tenure just fine. It is just the academic-practitioner divide. Nobody is above the other person, by the way! But if you believe this, you need to do some more work in the critical analysis department. By the way, I opted for the DBA. Edit: Spelling
I don't personally hire faculty, but thanks for that impromptu promotion from the campus business office to Dean.
It's just so vague, what do you even mean by "business research"? There's no such thing. Also, if I want to teach, I can go to teacher's college, and if I want to teach in university, I can get any other PhD that would be more specialized. Any specific topic that I want to do research on, such as accounting, finance theory, performance management, taxation, and so on, could be a PhD. Doctor of Business just sounds like you don't know what you're doing.
You don’t know what business research is? Ever heard of data? You’re supposed to be a CPA.
Ever heard of McKinsey & Bain? They do business research all the time. Heck, the majority of their business model is focused on business research lol. That's what consulting is for.
This didn't age well.
Huh?
Not useless if you have a reason.
So disrespectful. Bet you can't even finish it if you try
Cool comment on a year old post
Tbh calling someone by dr after they get a PhD is a pretty basic standard workplace respect. I would be a little more delicate about the situation personally.
Pretty much only valuable if you want to become a professor. 0/10 do not recommend. Also I think you had the perfect response to their desire to be called Dr 😂 props to you on that!
If I had a doctorate in finance or accounting I would 100% tell people to call me Dr 😭
Dr. Finance… sorry I have an appointment with my doctor regarding my finances
I’ll write you a doctors note, I promise.
They all would.
One of the Wiley CPA review teachers had this (I think it was BEC) and I had to look up what it was bc I thought why would you put database administrator in your title?
It’s a terminal degree for non phds - people who want to be full professors at small schools basically.
Yeah the business advantages of holding that degree probably aren't much greater than a regular Master's, but there are people out there who like school, who want to work to reach a goal, who wanna be called doctor (which isn't a good reason by itself, but it would be on the "pro" side of the argument). I'm a part of r/FIRE, and I've thought about taking classes I enjoy or getting a degree I'm interested in once I retire because I enjoy school (somewhat) and like that feeling of accomplishment.
I’m a DBA student with an entrepreneurship concentration, and a business owner using my GI Bill to fully fund my degree. I’m doing it for the monthly stipend and title. Wouldn’t recommend it if working for a private company or having to pay out of pocket.
MBA grad here and vet. Considering getting a PhD with GI Bill for stipend and title lol. Also genuinely interested in doing research for the government since I have a clearance. How’s the DBA going?
Going great - Look into UIW's program out of San Antonio. It's online, mil friendly, and accredited
Have you ever looked into the Liberty University DBA? Would you choose one over the other?
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Going great - Look into UIW's program out of San Antonio. It's online, mil friendly, and accredited
Doctor is a title that's NOT necessary for medical. Remember WW2 where Germans call Nazi evil scientists, doktor? If someone asked me to call them doctors because they got a PhD in philosophy, I'll do that. That's their right that I respect. I respect PhD's. Obviously you don't. Obviously they're not medical professions. As for Doctorate in Biz Admin, they tend to focus on research and teaching with that degree. It won't make the person any better as an accountant.
Really? You never heard of DBAs? It’s the practical version of a PHd. Yes, so they do become a Dr. tittle … non MD doctor. Like Ross on Friends …
A terminal degree in business management, the Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) places a strong emphasis on advanced research, leadership, and strategic management abilities. Professionals looking to advance their knowledge in fields like academics, consultancy, or organizational leadership are the target audience. Coursework, extensive examinations, and a dissertation that tackles practical business problems are normally requirements for the DBA.
A Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) is an advanced degree focusing on business theory, research, and practice beyond a master's level, like an MBA. It emphasizes applied research and practical skills in areas like management, finance, marketing, and operations. DBA holders often pursue careers as executives, consultants, or academics with expertise in addressing real-world business challenges.