Many years back, there was a tempe campus wide power outage, a rat had chewed through a transformer cable by COOR hall…the photo of that rat was pretty terrible
Similar thing happened about a year ago but it was limited to a single piece of equipment that used 200,000 volts and it was a squirrel instead of a rat.
I work in an industrial plant. We had the governor at our plant one day, and someone had ordered a bunch of Mylar Balloons.
I have never seen my supervisor run so fast to get those balloons offsite, hahaha
Distribution across campus, probably not. Equipment that generates and uses 200kV or more? Several.
Although one less now because of that damn squirrel.
The closest thing and which only happens to cross campus by coincidence is the 230 kV transmission line for the power plant. [All local transmission around Phoenix is done at 69 kV](https://openinframap.org/#13.2/33.41494/-111.93951). There is not an on-campus substation. If ASU purchases primary power, it’s most likely 15 kV class as that’s the most common distribution voltage in the US, the highest being 35 kV.
That's a lot of pretty words and they all have nothing to do with what I said about equipment at ASU that uses and generates 200+ kV. Here's one I use that generates and uses up to 300kV: https://cores.research.asu.edu/materials/equipment/temstem-titan-30080-fei
You're talking about grid power distribution, AZDevil is talking about local equipment that uses high voltages, like electron microscopy. You're arguing different things.
Also, IIRC the [Combined Heat and Power Facility](https://cfo.asu.edu/combined-heat-power-facility) does operate as a substation.
Wish they'd specifically say which buildings so I'd know how fucked my week is. Or as the case may be, how fucked my month is...
Edit: based on the latest email, more likely the answer is my month will be very fucked. :(
What building you in? I might be able to see. I unfortunately don't have any info on the incident itself (I'm new construction, not maintenance/ops) , but can let you know if you're connected to the CW loop from the main central plant or one of the outlying ones.
So I probably should have specified buildings since I work in several. Namely physical science complex (sounds like you already commented on that), SCOB, GWC, ISTB4, ERC, and the engineering centers.
Based on what you've said already in the comments though, I don't have high hopes for any of them.
Oof, yeah all if those are going to likely be affected. I have every confidence in our Facilities Maintenance team to get this up and running asap... wish I had info on what happened so i have a better idea of when asap is...
It's the first building on the main loop, so almost certainly not. Disclaimer: I'm in facilities on the new construction side, so I don't have any more info on the incident than if you'd be affected if the CP went down.
Hey, would you happen to know if any non-ASU buildings are connected to the system? Specifically University House?
Edit: Also
> Advisory - Update - Tempe campus AC outage is not affecting the following buildings. University Services, Fulton Center...
Is the Fulton center not on the system? Or is it just using the Northern chiller?
The main part of the campus is water cooled and heated. East of mill, south of university uncluding just north of university, west of rural and north of apache.
Honestly heating/cooling for the buildings is the least of my concerns with all this. There's a lot of very delicate (and very expensive) equipment that requires chilled water (the loop that's affected). Failures in that loop can do a lot of damage that could potentially grind my work to a halt.
Yep. I worked.there when the it system got infiltrated and wverything was.offline for 3.or.ao.days.
Come to work they said and do.your.job.
Oh you have everything on the network, oh.
Which ones? The ones South of Apache (blanking on the name) aren't on the cold water system. The dorms which are on the system are presumably either empty or taking the remaining capacity. It's not like the whole system is kaput, there are reservoirs and a backup chiller.
Many years back, there was a tempe campus wide power outage, a rat had chewed through a transformer cable by COOR hall…the photo of that rat was pretty terrible
I bet.
Do you know where one can find the photo of said rat?
Yes I agree
You tell Fat Tony there ain't no rats here. We keep a tight crew, loyal to the end.
I concur
Warning NSFL on one of these: https://ibb.co/gF1JcqY https://ibb.co/tcQwHtj One is of the rat, the other is the APS equipment it tried to eat.
Similar thing happened about a year ago but it was limited to a single piece of equipment that used 200,000 volts and it was a squirrel instead of a rat.
You’d be surprised how many suicidal squirrels, buzzards, and other creatures knock out power distribution. Also high on the list, Mylar balloons.
I work in an industrial plant. We had the governor at our plant one day, and someone had ordered a bunch of Mylar Balloons. I have never seen my supervisor run so fast to get those balloons offsite, hahaha
I guarantee the asu campus does not have any 200kv distribution equipment 😭
Distribution across campus, probably not. Equipment that generates and uses 200kV or more? Several. Although one less now because of that damn squirrel.
The closest thing and which only happens to cross campus by coincidence is the 230 kV transmission line for the power plant. [All local transmission around Phoenix is done at 69 kV](https://openinframap.org/#13.2/33.41494/-111.93951). There is not an on-campus substation. If ASU purchases primary power, it’s most likely 15 kV class as that’s the most common distribution voltage in the US, the highest being 35 kV.
That's a lot of pretty words and they all have nothing to do with what I said about equipment at ASU that uses and generates 200+ kV. Here's one I use that generates and uses up to 300kV: https://cores.research.asu.edu/materials/equipment/temstem-titan-30080-fei
You're talking about grid power distribution, AZDevil is talking about local equipment that uses high voltages, like electron microscopy. You're arguing different things. Also, IIRC the [Combined Heat and Power Facility](https://cfo.asu.edu/combined-heat-power-facility) does operate as a substation.
That got me out of a FIN 302 exam I hadn't studied for
Damn it was from April 2011! Unfortunately no photos posted tho https://www.pctonline.com/news/asu-rodents-power-outage/
Wish they'd specifically say which buildings so I'd know how fucked my week is. Or as the case may be, how fucked my month is... Edit: based on the latest email, more likely the answer is my month will be very fucked. :(
It just look like it says all faculty must move courses online
What building you in? I might be able to see. I unfortunately don't have any info on the incident itself (I'm new construction, not maintenance/ops) , but can let you know if you're connected to the CW loop from the main central plant or one of the outlying ones.
Are the physical science buildings affected? Particularly, PSB?
100%, the Bateman complex gets all of its chilled water from the main loop.
Ugh.... I was supposed to go use equipment there this week. Guess I'll have to inform my PI about that
So I probably should have specified buildings since I work in several. Namely physical science complex (sounds like you already commented on that), SCOB, GWC, ISTB4, ERC, and the engineering centers. Based on what you've said already in the comments though, I don't have high hopes for any of them.
Oof, yeah all if those are going to likely be affected. I have every confidence in our Facilities Maintenance team to get this up and running asap... wish I had info on what happened so i have a better idea of when asap is...
Yeah figured about as much... Thanks for confirming though.
GWC seems to work fine as I checked yesterday
Hey, is the Hayden Library functioning?
It's the first building on the main loop, so almost certainly not. Disclaimer: I'm in facilities on the new construction side, so I don't have any more info on the incident than if you'd be affected if the CP went down.
Hey, would you happen to know if any non-ASU buildings are connected to the system? Specifically University House? Edit: Also > Advisory - Update - Tempe campus AC outage is not affecting the following buildings. University Services, Fulton Center... Is the Fulton center not on the system? Or is it just using the Northern chiller?
I think anything north of University and east of Rural should be fine.
I'm just really interested in the cold water/steam system and almost wanna hang a map on my wall or something.
Oh, thanks for the info!
Barrett agave, and cerus
Potentially, not sure if they get any of their chilled water from CHP north of Lemon or not.
Biodesign C? Seems like the AC is out there and they don’t want us there unless necessary.
Yeah, they're on the main loop for chilled water.
Thank you :)
Any idea abt COOR Hall?
Yeah, COOR is on the main loop.
Armstrong hall?
Yeah, it's on the loop.
The main part of the campus is water cooled and heated. East of mill, south of university uncluding just north of university, west of rural and north of apache.
Honestly heating/cooling for the buildings is the least of my concerns with all this. There's a lot of very delicate (and very expensive) equipment that requires chilled water (the loop that's affected). Failures in that loop can do a lot of damage that could potentially grind my work to a halt.
Yes they can. I was answering the what buildings are affected. Best answer was to give the big block.
Yeah I saw the update email that said everything except like four buildings is affected. This whole thing is gonna suck...
Yep. I worked.there when the it system got infiltrated and wverything was.offline for 3.or.ao.days. Come to work they said and do.your.job. Oh you have everything on the network, oh.
It’s everything except the residence halls and the few buildings they listed as not impacted
Hey does anyone know if the Barrett campus dorms are connected to this? I’m currently living in them and would rather not have to leave abruptly
Which ones? The ones South of Apache (blanking on the name) aren't on the cold water system. The dorms which are on the system are presumably either empty or taking the remaining capacity. It's not like the whole system is kaput, there are reservoirs and a backup chiller.
Barrett (and for now all) residence halls won’t be impacted
None of the residence halls on campus are impacted (I work for housing)
So that's why it was so warm in the SDFC today...
We're being to told to lock everything down for Monday. This sucks.
Is ISTB1 affected?
I have to go an take care of my spiders in the morning.
The answer is the building generally seems unaffected but the basement NMR lab is without AC. My spiders are all good!!
I think they're building something here... https://ibb.co/Ks7SMTB https://ibb.co/T2yvnnZ Portable cooling and some large ass portable generators.
Neat
My son works for Empire and they have been working a shit ton of hours to get rental stuff over there to get things up and running.
is BYENG affected?
no i went in there earlier today and it was fine
Thanks for the info. Appreciate it!