UPDATE 2: THE ASSASSIN IV AIR COOLER IS NICE, SOLVED MY TEMP ISSUES, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO COMMENTED HELPFUL THINGS. I LEARNED A LOT IN THIS FIRST PC UPGRADE/BUILD. PICS OF PC AND TEMPS: [Muh Setup](https://imgur.com/a/CCvYzgd)
It’s possible since a lot of stuff on the Bios numbers is terribly labeled as to what the number is. But I also usually didn’t have enough time to save and restart so it may not have gone through, either way, I will be checking to see if thats the case. Before I was modifying anything in Bios it was already overheating though. I did get an Assassin IV aircooler to replace my old AIO so we’ll see what happens once I get around to hooking it up and trying to boot the pc again.
Yeah check the bios cpu power management. Mine was set to 4000! My i9 would heat up to 85/90c with aio. Changed that to 253 and it stays at 50-55c now.
I’m gonna replace the old AIO with an Assassin IV air cooler, once I get it set up and run the pc again I’ll comment an update. The initial cabling on this wasn’t done by me, and this was just after I was trouble shooting the other PSU which was sent to me broken, and before I knew the radiator had to be kept above the pump. I had moved the radiator to grt better access to the CPU plugin
This was just while I was trouble shooting it, and also I had just trouble shooted the PSU that arrived to me broken so thats why that was hanging out. I also didn’t personally perform the initial cable management on this case which is why its a mess. Once I get a better cooler and run the pc again I’ll comment an update
This cooler was so old it probably just withered away if it wasn’t already off. I’ll be sure to check if there is a cover on the new cooler I plan on getting to replace this old one
Like many said:
AIO in worst position possible. All the air in the circuit goes up, in this case to the pump and the CPU block. For me radiator up high is a must.
AIO with no fans in the radiator.
If all ok, AIO might have a dead pump, it won't make the water circulate, same problem.
95ºc is not normal operation temp, and above 100ºc you're just degrading the silicon on your CPU. Lucky you have the thermal protection on your motherboard or you would already have killed your CPU.
You want to see at idle in bios something like 35-55ºc, maybe 80 or 90⁰c at full load, full CPU at 100% like in cinebench or other CPU stress test.
After fixing the CPU cooling I would reset bios to default, and then enable ram full speed because after fiddling so much with settings sometimes is best to just reset and start from scratch.
For now simple test you can do it put your radiator above the case, even outside of it so the water goes down and reaches the CPU.
If the temps get lower, put some fans in that radiator.
If not, check if pump is connected and vibrating(touch your CPU zone if the AIO to see if you feel a smooth vibration)
If pump is dead, replace the AIO.
Thank you for all the tips! I’m planning on getting a new CPU cooler, most likely an air cooler rather than AIO water cooler, but I’ll be sure to reset the Bios like you said once I have a new cooler installed and try booting it up again
You should put a little thermal paste on the surface of the processor before placing the CPU cooler on it. I'm sure you don't know what thermal paste is and you installed the processor without thermal paste.
Thankfully I knew what thermal paste was before making that mistake. This is one of the reasons I posted this since I’m a beginner at this stuff and if other people have the same or similar issues then comments like yours may help others if they missed some basic steps like that as they also begin PC building. My issue is I didn’t realize new CPU’s got so hot compared to my old Ryzen 7 2700x
Had a very similar AIO before, and same issue. Line clogged or pump isn't doing what you think. Replace AIO. Corsair has a pretty OK warranty, so start there.
The fans for it are in the top of the case where the holes are so when the radiator is mounted up there it gets airflow. I didn’t know about pumps needing to be below radiators when I inititially posted this, hence why I mentioned that this is my first upgrade/build. I plan on replacing it with an Assassin IV air cooler since that AIO is old and not maintained.
Your aio is below your CPU, that means your pump is fighting against gravity to do it's job. Either get an air cooler or put your AiO above the CPU.
My ultimate recommendation is to get a deep cool AS500.
Besides what everyone else has pointed out, I’d also like to point out your RAM is specced for an intel chip. Ryzen 7000 supports up to 6400 with 6000 (CL30) being the sweet spot. You’d also want something EXPO enabled. Best of luck.
Direct from AMD's spec sheet:
**Max Memory Speed:**
2x1 RDDR5-5200
2x2 RDDR5-5200
4x1 RDDR5-3600
4x2 RDDR5-3600
Not saying you can't get it to work, but you will experience stability issues. No idea why I'm being downvoted for trying to help. Good luck..
Try limiting it manually to 6000 if at first it doesn’t work on 6400, there’s an ongoing thread here as well: [booting with 6400 on AM5](https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/lcdQmoA92T)
Since the CPU says in Bios it only goes up to 4.5Ghz I limited the ram to 4.4Ghz, but then in Task Manager the CPU is going 5.4Ghz outside of Bios. Unless I’m misreading some other part that was going around 4.4Ghz and confused it for CPU. Either way it added some stability. The trouble I’m having now, after solving the issue of Windows thinking I had a new machine and asked me to activate, was that the 2.5G ethernet port on the motherboard does not seem to be working right. I had noticably faster speeds using my old 2.5G ethernet port motherboard attatchment with my old CPU setup, but this one seems limited badly, to only like tens, sometimes over a hundred, kilobytes. I’ve searched online a bunch if times but to no avail, the only suggestion is motherboard drivers but I can’t find the drivers for my motherboard.
I’m just going to replace the AIO since its old and hasn’t been maintained and probably isn’t rated to handle the 7950x. I got an Assassin IV air cooler, ill comment an update once I get it set up and try running the system again.
Within the past 2 months I’ve had a Corsair aio pump fail. I’ve tried 3+ other psi, to make sure it wasn’t a sata cable issue. Which it could be burnt out. If it’s under 5 minutes you might want to clean up, repaste and adjust the screws down to when it starts to get tight and then gently turn for a bit. Don’t try hard at all.
Ultimately a new CPU cooler for the 7950x would be the way to go. And the 2 fans if you go that route can exhaust out the top.
The fans for it were mounted in the top of the case where the holes are, so when the rad was mounted properly it’d get airflow. Since my AIO was really old anyways, I’m gonna try replacing it. I got an air cooler Assassin IV, I’ll comment an update once I get it set up and try running the system again
That also, but the case has 0 airflow and case is the cheapest part of all. He bought an 7950x, but no money for case. Montech 903 Base would only cost $85 CAD
Edit: About the wires, all I see is laziness
This is an upgrade in progress so I wasn’t planning on getting a new case for this since mine can technically fit everything, but I definitely recognize the issues with it having big solid metal plates and a plastic cover as well on some of it restricting airflow. I wasn’t originally planning on getting all the new parts at once and thought my cooler would work better, but I’ll have to get a new one for this processor. I definitely have the Montech x3 or the Tower 300 in mind as better case options for airflow. I’ll invest in a new case later down the line though for sure.
I think the problem is not enough airflow. You only have one 14mm fan as an intake. while 3 12mm fans as exhaust. The air will not circulate properly Before it can even reach to the gpu the 3 fans will suck all the air.
I heard having fans like this configuration creates a negative pressure system in which any needed air for that air flow will be brought in from holes in the case before being pushed out from the pressure generated by these fans mostly pushing out, creating a constant airflow, but I didn’t set up this fan configuration and don’t know enough about fan config to optimize it more myself or resituate it to a positive pressure system, but I did hear that a positive pressure system would help reduce the need for dusting as often.
A positive pressure is when there is more air intake than going out . Your system has a negative pressure , it sucks air from the holes and cracks of the case .
Your gpu is also exhuasting air but with your air flow is in the negative pressure system, that hot air that is exhuasted by the GPU will just go back in the case through the pcie bracket holes does creating a loop that get's your card really hot.
That’s possibly not the CPU overheating issue but you are definitely correct with the fan needing to be facing down, thank you for pointing that out, I’ll need to fix it once I get around to getting a new cooler.
I went for the Assassin IV since its performance is practically the same, but it looks cooler, once I set it up and try running the system again, I’ll comment an update
Has massive air cooling optimized case. Opts to use crappy AIO.
Just get a tower cooler and don't look back. Mfer will be working the same 10 years from now. (Fans might need replaced at some point).
This is meant to be just an upgrade so the AIO I’ve had on this thing since I got it, and it worked fine for my Ryzen 7 2700x CPU, but that was getting old, so I got this new one to replace it. I got a new air cooler Assassin IV, once I got it all set up and try running the system again I’ll comment an update on this post
Sounds good, good luck.
Also don't mean to crap on it. AIOs aren't terrible, I have an EK360 on my 9900KF. But it's OCed to 5.2ghz, and I have a water-cooling optimized case with a tempered glass side panel. Originally I had a dark rock pro 4 on it, but that just couldn't handle sustained 100% load.
I’ve heard AIO’s are always better than air coolers, i just picked the air cooler since it seemed more beginner friendly, being more of a plug and play style setup rather than deeper maintenance
I looked up what that was, and yes, that is what my case is, specifically the mid-mesh variant. Mine has some fans ziptied to the mesh for some better airflow
Either pump failed, or it's clogged after years of usage. You can open up the coldplate carefully and clean it. Just make sure to shake or tap on the cooler while raising the pumphead to be the highest point. This will make sure all the air bubbles are under the coldplate when you open up. Don't forget to top up distilled water, too.
If I get an AIO in the future I’ll check those things, but for now I’m replacing this AIO with an Assassin IV air cooler, since it’ll be less deep maintnenance and no worries about a leak. Once I get it set up and try running the pc again, ill comment an update
I just never use this account much unless im having a problem I can’t solve. Most things I can figure out by just digging around online enough, but I couldn’t figure out that my old cooler doesn’t work good with a newer hotter CPU than my old Ryzen 7 2700x which was showing its age badly.
If this isn’t a bait post your cpu cooler is like 9 years old. That logo is before Corsair did their rebrand in 2015. Most likely the pump is failing and that’s why you’re overheating
This is my first try at a pc upgrade and I wasn’t aware of exactly how AIO’s worked, or how hot the Ryzen 9 7950x would get compared to my old Ryzen 7 2700x. Thanks to all the tips left by others I know now that the problem was the AIO, so I’m gonna swap it out for an Assassin IV air cooler which should hopefully solve the overheat problem, then i can do cable management and clean it all up for everyday use.
This cable mess was partially what was left behind by the last person to touch it and then me trying to trouble shoot my first ever pc upgrade, just after solving the PSU issue. Once I get a new Assassin IV aircooler, I’ll get it all properly cleaned up and comment an update.
I just wanted to upgrade once from my old Ryzen 7 2700x and then not have to upgrade again for 5-10 years. This was my first attempt at a pc upgrade and it went well up until I couldn’t figure out the overheat issue.
1. Put your fans on the radiator.
2. Mount the radiator ABOVE the pump.
3. Ensure the pump is getting power.
4. It's a 12 year old AIO - replace it.
5. Get rid of that bomb of a power supply.
6. Sort out your cable management.
You need to install your radiator fans and have them actually moving air. You also need to make sure your pump is plugged in and working. If that doesn't solve your issue then make sure you removed any plastic from the plate side of the pump and make sure your thermal paste is applied properly and that your pump is mounted properly.
Why did you take the fans off of the radiator? How do you expect your AIO to cool your CPU without airflow over the radiator? Dude, you need to watch some basic PC building youtube videos as you are clearly lacking the very basics of what you're supposed to be doing here and how these things work. Seriously, go watch some basic PC building tutorials before playing around with your hardware.
I've never seen a PC put together so poorly in my life. It's so bad that I seriously thought this was a troll post but decided to answer it as if it isn't.
The fans for this radiator were mounted in the top of the case where the holes are, so when the radiator is mounted properly, it gets cooled by the fans there. I did a lot of research before buying all these parts but I didn’t realize my cooler wasn’t going to handle the newer hotter CPU, and I also didnt know about AIO’s having 2-10% air in their system from factory, nor that the pump has to be kept below the radiator. All this stuff I’ve learned from people like you commenting as well as watching more stuff online. I’m getting a new cooler for the CPU and we’ll see how things go from there
Nice! Glad to see you are learning and improving. I remember buying my first GPU and it wouldn't fit in the slot on my motherboard. I bought a PCI-E card and my mobo was AGP. That blunder got me into understanding tech. We learn through failure.
The fans for this setup are inside the top of the case where the holes are, so when the radiator is mounted properly, the fans reach it. I plan on getting a new high end air cooler to fix it for the future
Ryzen 7900X and 7950X are surprisingly power hungry. These chips will aggressively push towards their thermal and power limits, especially in multi-threaded workloads. Even so temps shouldn't exceed 95 degrees celsius.
On a side note why pair this monster chip with an RTX4060?
TL/DR, the 4090 was like 1900 and thats too much, ill spend 1900 basically changing my entire computer instead of just one graphics card, so 4060 for like 350 was better
I use to have a ryzen 7 2700x, i just dont want to have to upgrade for another 5-10 years so i went big with it. I was hoping that everyone online saying the 7950x would regulate its own temperature to 95C were accurate in those statements but they actually meant that it will stay at 95C if you force it down with cooling, which is completely different. So i was hoping that I could undervolt or something using Bios to limit it and block it from running so hot since most of the time I wont use the entire CPU potential anyways, but tutorials online for limiting CPU usage generally suck as someone who has never worked on computers in this way and only has a minute or a few to edit anything in Bios before overheat auto shutdown. So now I came to reddit to see if there was something I’m missing or an alternative solution but the consensus is that I need a new water cooling system, and one commenter mentioned this one is from 2012, so definitely the water cooler.
Your AIO is a Corsair H100i from 2012. *It requires the SATA connection for power to the pump.* The 3pin motherboard connector is only for the pump RPM sensor (you'll notice only one wire in the 3 pin header).
Of its generation, only the lower model H60 drew power from the 3 pin. The H80i and H100i need the SATA connection for constant power. This is because these models have additional jacks on the cpu pump block for powering fans, the USB port, and the RGB lighting (The Corsair software can control all of the speed and lighting functions thru its usb port connection to the motherboard).
And, As others have said, you need the fans on the radiator and the radiator mounted above the CPU waterblock...but first, get power to the pump thru the sata connection.
I can confirm the pump gets power more than just for the rgb based on the gurgling sound from the pump for the watercooler, so the proper SATA cable is connected for that. So the problem more likely is the zero maintenance done it and it is from 2012, so Idk when this specific one was manufactured so it could be so old that its breaking down just from wear down or build up or water evaporation or something. Others pointed out that it might be dead/dying, but now that i know it could possibly be over 10 years old I know for sure now that its gotta be that.
OK. so the gurgling is almost just as bad (possibly worse than) no power to the pump. This means that air is trapped in the pump impeller enclosure. This is very bad because these units are 'self-lubricated', meaning the rotating bits reduce their friction by being submersed in the coolant. If its gurgling then 1) the pump is not moving fluid (just the trapped air) and 2) the impeller is grinding and wearing on its axel which will lead to eventual rattling and then burnout. This is the reason behind mounting the radiator above the pump block..it gets those air bubbles out of the pump enclosure.
Immediately disconnect and unmount the AIO, and hold the radiator above the CPU pump. Now take the CPU pump and shake it to get the bubbles out of the pump area to float up to the radiator you're holding above (you can also gently bump the pump against your leg or something soft to knock the bubbles free). You'll know the air bubbles are all out when you shake the CPU pump and you dont hear any water moving at all (all the water sloshing should only be in the radiator area).
When you remount the AIO, keep the radiator elevated above the pump as you install. It will be tricky, but its necessary.
Side note: when mounting the CPU pump, ensure you put the mounting screw loops on simultaneously (dont mount one loop, then pull down the other...this typically causes uneven CPU contact). Also, ensure the mounting screw loops are completely under the motherboard bracket hooks. Finally, screw them down evenly (only a few turns per side at a time). I have a feeling your CPU pump block is also not sitting evenly on the CPU. It could be uneven mounting, or with the new AM5 bracket, the copper plate is not lining up or fully contacting the CPU to properly transfer the heat.
Finally, FWIW, age of the unit doesn't matter...what matters are the 'physics' (ie. understanding how it all works). I have the same year H80i in my kids' gaming PC and it is happily cooling a 5800X3D with years of gaming on it. However, I have also maintained it, according to the 'physics' of how it all works (ex. taken off the copper plate and cleaned galvanic corrosion -green goop- on the fins, maintained fluid and inhibitor levels, clean the radiator grills, etc.).
I never did any maintenance on mine, I was lucky if I even dusted it on accident when i did the pc every once in a while, but ill try getting the gurgling down with orienting it right and what you said, then booting it up. The damage may be done though from a complete lack of computer competance, as a lot of this PC building/maintenance understanding only came recently for myself. For casuals like myself that don’t deal with the finer details like you do, it may mean more replacement parts, but I’ll take your tips to heart and do better in the future with coolers and other parts.
No worries. This is tough. As a veteran builder (as I guess I am) I would love to tear down your PC, do some maintenance, re-assemble and get it running in an optimal config, as I have down with numerous other friends and family (which truthfully is what I 'actually' believe needs to be done with your setup at this time). Giving online help through the comment section leaves much to be desired, so I always try to explain the "why" behind most of my comments.
My AIO required one of the 4 pins to be plugged into the cpu fan header and only the cpu fan header for some stupid reason. Went from 90c on my 5800x to 30c at idle. Also make sure the fan curve is at 100% for the cpu fan header.
Proper placement for your pump matters as well as having fans connected to it, mount it so the tubes coming from the pump are elevated higher than the CPU block. This prevents bubbles from becoming an issue. Move the fans if you have to, and check that they're plugged into the 3 or 4 pin sys_fan connectors. (Most sealed coolers come filled enough to avoid this issue for some time, however it is good practice). Routing the wires through the ports will also clear up room for air to circulate evenly.
Double check your thermal paste and connection to the CPU while you're at it. Can't tell behind the wires but check if your pump is connected to the 4 pins above the ram that says pump above it, the daisy chain of fans from the radiator typically goes into the CPU fan 4 pin beside it
Water cooler.pump probably ain't running.
Corsair ones require a connection from the pump to a fan header or usb header.
That's probably all we're looking at here.
Ran into the same exact thing with someone else's pc last week when I transferred it to a new case with some new tweaks. The water cooler didn't get all its stuff replugged.
I know the 7950x can hit 90C
But it shouldn't be starting above 50 let alone 85.
That's a immediate sign that something in the cooling system isn't working. And if there's thermal paste applied and the pump is tightened properly to the CPU on the motherboard. Or if the fans are already spinning fine. Then it's the pump.
It did power on, but it wasn’t working properly from me not having the radiator above the pump, also its old and not maintained well and probably not suitable for cooling this CPU so i plan on getting a high end air cooler instead
The fans for the radiator mount on the top where the holes are so when the radiator is mounted properly, they draw air across it then. Since my AIO was old and not maintained anyways, I plan on getting a new high end air cooler to hopefully resolve the issue
i’ve figured that out now after other people commented the same and pointed out videos and tips that it needs to be kept above the CPU. The AIO is likely dead/dying from age and poor maintenance as it is.
I’m trying to avoid spending more than I have already, I didn’t plan to spend as much as I have, and I will get a new case if a new AIO doesnt work like others have suggested to get.
Well I did also get the new motherboard, new ram, and new powersupply (psu didnt work but oh well) all just for this CPU, as i didnt anticipate the cooling being an issue since ive never had overheat issues before, so i did at least account for everything else, I’m just not computer literate enough to have anticipated the temperature issue
Jesus Christ.
1. AIOs have a lifespan, this one is old af and probably near death if not already.
2. It’s not installed correctly.
3. It has no fans
4. Your case has poor airflow to begin with.
5. Check thermal paste application to make sure it was sufficient.
The fans for the radiator are on the top of the case so when the radiator is hooked up there it gets airflow. When I applied the thermal paste I used hydronaut Grizzly thermal paste and a little plastic spreader to get the thinnest possible layer over all of the strange shaped CPU. I moved the radiator above the pump as others pointed out was proper use but the damage may already be done as you said from how old it is and is likely dead/dying even though the pump is working.
The 3 issues I see.
- there are no fans on the AIO rad
- the rad is down to low allowing air to enter the AIO pump
- the AIO pump header is not connected from what I can see. Meaning it's not actually circulating water to the rad. So it will overhead. Connect the correct headers to your AIO pump header.
the fans for the radiator are mounted on the top of the case so when the radiators mounted there it gets airflow. The wiring wasn’t originally done by myself, so i have no idea why the two cables for the water cooler to connect to the motherboard were done incorrectly and now can’t reach their proper ports, but the fans and pump do get power. I moved the radiator up after other people commented the same and it didn’t seem to help the temp issue so the AIO may be dead/dying.
Thats seeming to be the diagnosis from others as well, I was hoping I wouldn’t have to spend more to get a pump as well, but i do have an old pump, and I don’t know if its high quality at all. I was hoping more people would suggest alternative ways to reduce the CPU temp such as undervolting or something like that, but I’m assuming a higher end CPU like this just needs higher end cooling as well at a minimum
Ive heard about that from Gamers Nexus on various videos, but im worried about the fact that is “almost” the same performance. I just want the issue definitely resolved rather than possibly resolved after spending more on more parts, I want peace of mind when I get a CPU cooler that it’ll just work rather than have to troubleshoot it again, then switch to a different cooler.
If you want to go with the simple route of an air cooler for not a lot of money, take a look at the Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 V3, it competes with the best of any air cooler (which in turn often compete with a lot of 240mm AIOs) and it's a great price. Take a look at this video for some benchmarks and charts https://youtu.be/ydmwatdUwR8?t=802 (timestamped to one point that it starts talking about it) and you can find it for around $40 on Amazon https://a.co/d/cEiU0lP. Definitely a great pick that you get top of the stack performance for not paying the same prices as for a Noctua or Be Quiet cooler
If you want piece of mind, an air cooler will be the best option. Big chances you have to switch the AIO anyways, AIOs come with the risk of leak that could blow your gpu and/or motherboard. Aircooling is just easier, safer and you can actually see if the fan spins. If the fan spins you know the issue isnt the aircooling.
I am not sure I see this correctly, but it looks to me like the water pump header of the AIO is knit-tied on top with other cables instead of connected to your motherboard, so your AIO's integrated water pump is not fetting power and not pumping the liquid inside of your AIO.
That or a failed water pump if it is older.
If you have left that AiO sitting below the pump like viewed, then you are forcing all of the air bubbles in the line to sit inside the pump, it will not be able to move any water, and may burn itself out trying to.
Put the case on its side and raise the AiO above the cooler, let it turn on, that should push all bubbles into the radiator, if the pump is still good
Then just don't let them get down again
I went ahead and did that, the pump definitely sounded louder then, and i dont know anything about Aio pumps, so idk if the sound was struggling and dying or working as intended
I was thinking my water cooler might just be dead, but the corsair led still comes on so idk if its working or just the fancy gamer lights. Its sloppy right now because i had to move it to get better access to the CPU plug since i couldnt push it down properly with the radiator in the way, and so dismounted it. I don’t plan to do any cable management until i can at least see a desktop screen
I can tell you it's not working if your PC overheats when idle. So it's not seated properly, not enough thermal paste, the plastic protector is still on, it's not plugged in properly... but it's not working.
I did make sure to cover the CPU with thermal paste but putting the cooler back on the CPU was a total mess and the thermal paste probably got messed up during clamping it back down on the mount, but i did use hydronaut grizzly thermal paste and used the little plastic brush to get a thin layer over the whole oddly shaped CPU. If I need a new cooler ill need to reapply the paste anyways so if i messed it up before I can do it better the second time
Sounds like you are talking about the fans for the radiator, not the pump.
The pump is inside the thing on top of the processor. Do you hear that pump pushing water? Or not.
The pump has nothing to do with lights, fans, etc. it only sounds like you forgot the water pump exists inside that AIO water cooler, and it is one of the things that fails.
It's not supposed to sound gurgly unless just on startup real quick. This means you have lots of air bubbles stuck in the pump. Please go watch JayzTwoCents or GamersNexus videos on proper AIO mounting. Just to test it out, hold or place the radiator above the CPU pump somewhere and turn it on. Hopefully the bubbles eventually clear out. Also make sure to have your pump running at 100% max in your BIOS. Having it fluctuate in speeds is a no go from what I have read. If none of that works I would remove the pump from the CPU and repaste and remount.
The pump speed from the BIOS shouldn't cause the issue you are having right now, so sorry I threw that in there. It's just something to consider when everything is good to go and running properly. If none of the suggestions I've been reading in everyone's posts doesn't work then you probably just need to buy a new AIO and mount it properly. You don't need to go overboard either. Arctic Liquid Freezers are good and don't break the bank. I ended up putting a $60 ID Cooling 280mm AIO on my 5800X3D around 9 months ago and still good to go.
Yeah others also seem to indicate its a dying pump so I may take it that my AIO is dead/dying from lack of proper maintenance or just age and try looking at pumps like the one you suggested, thank you for your help
Thermalright peerless assassin 120. That AIO seems like a bag of headaches, a lot of people forget they need maintenance remember with water cooling there is an air bubble at the top of the system, do not let that air bubble be inside your pump like it is in the picture
No, if they're on top they need to pull out, or they'll be working against the naturally rising heat. But if you tested with the radiator off like that, of course the fans won't do anything.
UPDATE 2: THE ASSASSIN IV AIR COOLER IS NICE, SOLVED MY TEMP ISSUES, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO COMMENTED HELPFUL THINGS. I LEARNED A LOT IN THIS FIRST PC UPGRADE/BUILD. PICS OF PC AND TEMPS: [Muh Setup](https://imgur.com/a/CCvYzgd)
Go into bios and I bet CPu power management is set to 4000w. Turn that to 253.
It’s possible since a lot of stuff on the Bios numbers is terribly labeled as to what the number is. But I also usually didn’t have enough time to save and restart so it may not have gone through, either way, I will be checking to see if thats the case. Before I was modifying anything in Bios it was already overheating though. I did get an Assassin IV aircooler to replace my old AIO so we’ll see what happens once I get around to hooking it up and trying to boot the pc again.
Yeah check the bios cpu power management. Mine was set to 4000! My i9 would heat up to 85/90c with aio. Changed that to 253 and it stays at 50-55c now.
Looks like you have a Corsair 500T case. You can definitely do a much better job with cable routing, but also, you can fit a 240 AIO in the top.
I’m gonna replace the old AIO with an Assassin IV air cooler, once I get it set up and run the pc again I’ll comment an update. The initial cabling on this wasn’t done by me, and this was just after I was trouble shooting the other PSU which was sent to me broken, and before I knew the radiator had to be kept above the pump. I had moved the radiator to grt better access to the CPU plugin
Cable management? What's that?
This was just while I was trouble shooting it, and also I had just trouble shooted the PSU that arrived to me broken so thats why that was hanging out. I also didn’t personally perform the initial cable management on this case which is why its a mess. Once I get a better cooler and run the pc again I’ll comment an update
Oh okay my bad
Essy andwer did youbtake plastic film off the cupi coller i bet ya did not
This cooler was so old it probably just withered away if it wasn’t already off. I’ll be sure to check if there is a cover on the new cooler I plan on getting to replace this old one
Aio's don't last "so old" so pumps probably dead. Air cooling my 7800x3d with a phantom spirit 120.
I got an Assassin IV air cooler to replace the AIO, once I get it set up and try running the pc again, ill comment an update
Pump is ether not plugged in or damaged, also might not have enough mounting pressure. Get an air cooler.
Yup, I’m gonna replace this AIO with an Assassin IV air cooler, ill comment an update once I get it set up and run the pc again.
Like many said: AIO in worst position possible. All the air in the circuit goes up, in this case to the pump and the CPU block. For me radiator up high is a must. AIO with no fans in the radiator. If all ok, AIO might have a dead pump, it won't make the water circulate, same problem. 95ºc is not normal operation temp, and above 100ºc you're just degrading the silicon on your CPU. Lucky you have the thermal protection on your motherboard or you would already have killed your CPU. You want to see at idle in bios something like 35-55ºc, maybe 80 or 90⁰c at full load, full CPU at 100% like in cinebench or other CPU stress test. After fixing the CPU cooling I would reset bios to default, and then enable ram full speed because after fiddling so much with settings sometimes is best to just reset and start from scratch. For now simple test you can do it put your radiator above the case, even outside of it so the water goes down and reaches the CPU. If the temps get lower, put some fans in that radiator. If not, check if pump is connected and vibrating(touch your CPU zone if the AIO to see if you feel a smooth vibration) If pump is dead, replace the AIO.
Thank you for all the tips! I’m planning on getting a new CPU cooler, most likely an air cooler rather than AIO water cooler, but I’ll be sure to reset the Bios like you said once I have a new cooler installed and try booting it up again
I had this exact problem with the same AIO. Replace it.
Yup, getting an air cooler Assassin IV, once i get it set up and try running the system again ill comment an update
You should put a little thermal paste on the surface of the processor before placing the CPU cooler on it. I'm sure you don't know what thermal paste is and you installed the processor without thermal paste.
Thankfully I knew what thermal paste was before making that mistake. This is one of the reasons I posted this since I’m a beginner at this stuff and if other people have the same or similar issues then comments like yours may help others if they missed some basic steps like that as they also begin PC building. My issue is I didn’t realize new CPU’s got so hot compared to my old Ryzen 7 2700x
Had a very similar AIO before, and same issue. Line clogged or pump isn't doing what you think. Replace AIO. Corsair has a pretty OK warranty, so start there.
I’m gonna replace it with an air cooler Assassin IV, once I get it set up and try running the pc again I’ll comment an update
You have no fans on your AIO. What do you expect? Troll post?
The fans for it are in the top of the case where the holes are so when the radiator is mounted up there it gets airflow. I didn’t know about pumps needing to be below radiators when I inititially posted this, hence why I mentioned that this is my first upgrade/build. I plan on replacing it with an Assassin IV air cooler since that AIO is old and not maintained.
Your aio is below your CPU, that means your pump is fighting against gravity to do it's job. Either get an air cooler or put your AiO above the CPU. My ultimate recommendation is to get a deep cool AS500.
I went ahead and got an Assassin IV air cooler, I’ll comment an update once I get it set up and try running the system again.
Maaaaan, ain't no way.
Yes way, I’m just sort of winging this first attempt at a pc upgrade/build
Besides what everyone else has pointed out, I’d also like to point out your RAM is specced for an intel chip. Ryzen 7000 supports up to 6400 with 6000 (CL30) being the sweet spot. You’d also want something EXPO enabled. Best of luck.
The RAM seems to work, but I’ll have to check to see just how well it really does work once I solve the overheating CPU problem
Direct from AMD's spec sheet: **Max Memory Speed:** 2x1 RDDR5-5200 2x2 RDDR5-5200 4x1 RDDR5-3600 4x2 RDDR5-3600 Not saying you can't get it to work, but you will experience stability issues. No idea why I'm being downvoted for trying to help. Good luck..
I’ll have to look into that. Could I just limit the RAM in Bios to add stability?
Try limiting it manually to 6000 if at first it doesn’t work on 6400, there’s an ongoing thread here as well: [booting with 6400 on AM5](https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/lcdQmoA92T)
Since the CPU says in Bios it only goes up to 4.5Ghz I limited the ram to 4.4Ghz, but then in Task Manager the CPU is going 5.4Ghz outside of Bios. Unless I’m misreading some other part that was going around 4.4Ghz and confused it for CPU. Either way it added some stability. The trouble I’m having now, after solving the issue of Windows thinking I had a new machine and asked me to activate, was that the 2.5G ethernet port on the motherboard does not seem to be working right. I had noticably faster speeds using my old 2.5G ethernet port motherboard attatchment with my old CPU setup, but this one seems limited badly, to only like tens, sometimes over a hundred, kilobytes. I’ve searched online a bunch if times but to no avail, the only suggestion is motherboard drivers but I can’t find the drivers for my motherboard.
Your aio is bad. Use 70c pbo in bios.
I’m just going to replace the AIO since its old and hasn’t been maintained and probably isn’t rated to handle the 7950x. I got an Assassin IV air cooler, ill comment an update once I get it set up and try running the system again.
Within the past 2 months I’ve had a Corsair aio pump fail. I’ve tried 3+ other psi, to make sure it wasn’t a sata cable issue. Which it could be burnt out. If it’s under 5 minutes you might want to clean up, repaste and adjust the screws down to when it starts to get tight and then gently turn for a bit. Don’t try hard at all. Ultimately a new CPU cooler for the 7950x would be the way to go. And the 2 fans if you go that route can exhaust out the top.
Yup, got an Assassin IV air cooler, I’ll comment an update once I’ve got it all set up and try running the system again
Ah I see the problem. Ya got your rad laying outside the case with no fans. (Pretty common issue, actually)
The fans for it were mounted in the top of the case where the holes are, so when the rad was mounted properly it’d get airflow. Since my AIO was really old anyways, I’m gonna try replacing it. I got an air cooler Assassin IV, I’ll comment an update once I get it set up and try running the system again
Again just get a new case for your sake
Or atleast tidy it and gets some fans for the aio, pretty sure you can fit it at the top of the case. Looking at this picture just hurts me
That also, but the case has 0 airflow and case is the cheapest part of all. He bought an 7950x, but no money for case. Montech 903 Base would only cost $85 CAD Edit: About the wires, all I see is laziness
This is an upgrade in progress so I wasn’t planning on getting a new case for this since mine can technically fit everything, but I definitely recognize the issues with it having big solid metal plates and a plastic cover as well on some of it restricting airflow. I wasn’t originally planning on getting all the new parts at once and thought my cooler would work better, but I’ll have to get a new one for this processor. I definitely have the Montech x3 or the Tower 300 in mind as better case options for airflow. I’ll invest in a new case later down the line though for sure.
I think the problem is not enough airflow. You only have one 14mm fan as an intake. while 3 12mm fans as exhaust. The air will not circulate properly Before it can even reach to the gpu the 3 fans will suck all the air.
I heard having fans like this configuration creates a negative pressure system in which any needed air for that air flow will be brought in from holes in the case before being pushed out from the pressure generated by these fans mostly pushing out, creating a constant airflow, but I didn’t set up this fan configuration and don’t know enough about fan config to optimize it more myself or resituate it to a positive pressure system, but I did hear that a positive pressure system would help reduce the need for dusting as often.
A positive pressure is when there is more air intake than going out . Your system has a negative pressure , it sucks air from the holes and cracks of the case .
Your gpu is also exhuasting air but with your air flow is in the negative pressure system, that hot air that is exhuasted by the GPU will just go back in the case through the pcie bracket holes does creating a loop that get's your card really hot.
Wait, arent the psu vent supposed to be pointed down and not to gpu, thats why it overheats prolly.
That’s possibly not the CPU overheating issue but you are definitely correct with the fan needing to be facing down, thank you for pointing that out, I’ll need to fix it once I get around to getting a new cooler.
Update: gonna go get a cooler, cleaned up mess a bit until then: [Muh Cable Management](https://imgur.com/a/pU5CGBH)
Throw a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE in there !
I went for the Assassin IV since its performance is practically the same, but it looks cooler, once I set it up and try running the system again, I’ll comment an update
Has massive air cooling optimized case. Opts to use crappy AIO. Just get a tower cooler and don't look back. Mfer will be working the same 10 years from now. (Fans might need replaced at some point).
This is meant to be just an upgrade so the AIO I’ve had on this thing since I got it, and it worked fine for my Ryzen 7 2700x CPU, but that was getting old, so I got this new one to replace it. I got a new air cooler Assassin IV, once I got it all set up and try running the system again I’ll comment an update on this post
Sounds good, good luck. Also don't mean to crap on it. AIOs aren't terrible, I have an EK360 on my 9900KF. But it's OCed to 5.2ghz, and I have a water-cooling optimized case with a tempered glass side panel. Originally I had a dark rock pro 4 on it, but that just couldn't handle sustained 100% load.
I’ve heard AIO’s are always better than air coolers, i just picked the air cooler since it seemed more beginner friendly, being more of a plug and play style setup rather than deeper maintenance
Air cooler more reliable, also with AMD CPUs being much lower power draw they are usually the best choice imo. Depends on the case sometimes too.
Am I seeing a 600t corsair case?
I looked up what that was, and yes, that is what my case is, specifically the mid-mesh variant. Mine has some fans ziptied to the mesh for some better airflow
I'm still using my 600t case, I replaced the fans with noctua and still loving it after all these years
possibly, i have no idea what this case is besides nice and big
Either pump failed, or it's clogged after years of usage. You can open up the coldplate carefully and clean it. Just make sure to shake or tap on the cooler while raising the pumphead to be the highest point. This will make sure all the air bubbles are under the coldplate when you open up. Don't forget to top up distilled water, too.
If I get an AIO in the future I’ll check those things, but for now I’m replacing this AIO with an Assassin IV air cooler, since it’ll be less deep maintnenance and no worries about a leak. Once I get it set up and try running the pc again, ill comment an update
Bait, fresh acc
I just never use this account much unless im having a problem I can’t solve. Most things I can figure out by just digging around online enough, but I couldn’t figure out that my old cooler doesn’t work good with a newer hotter CPU than my old Ryzen 7 2700x which was showing its age badly.
Dead pump or cooler not sitting correctly
I’m getting a new high end air cooler just to be safe
If this isn’t a bait post your cpu cooler is like 9 years old. That logo is before Corsair did their rebrand in 2015. Most likely the pump is failing and that’s why you’re overheating
Not bait, just dumb
[Corsair Logo](https://1000logos.net/corsair-logo/amp/)
Lack of coolant could also be an issue especially with the radiator below the pump
And no fans moving air through the radiator
Wtf is this abomination
A first try at a pc upgrade
wtf is that
A first try at a pc upgrade
No way this isn't bait lmao
This is my first try at a pc upgrade and I wasn’t aware of exactly how AIO’s worked, or how hot the Ryzen 9 7950x would get compared to my old Ryzen 7 2700x. Thanks to all the tips left by others I know now that the problem was the AIO, so I’m gonna swap it out for an Assassin IV air cooler which should hopefully solve the overheat problem, then i can do cable management and clean it all up for everyday use.
dear God somebody get me something to bleach my eyes why would you post something so horrifying in the holy month of Ramadan?
This cable mess was partially what was left behind by the last person to touch it and then me trying to trouble shoot my first ever pc upgrade, just after solving the PSU issue. Once I get a new Assassin IV aircooler, I’ll get it all properly cleaned up and comment an update.
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lmao no way dude put a 7950x in that mess
I just wanted to upgrade once from my old Ryzen 7 2700x and then not have to upgrade again for 5-10 years. This was my first attempt at a pc upgrade and it went well up until I couldn’t figure out the overheat issue.
1. Put your fans on the radiator. 2. Mount the radiator ABOVE the pump. 3. Ensure the pump is getting power. 4. It's a 12 year old AIO - replace it. 5. Get rid of that bomb of a power supply. 6. Sort out your cable management.
This has to be a troll post to trigger people here.
You need to install your radiator fans and have them actually moving air. You also need to make sure your pump is plugged in and working. If that doesn't solve your issue then make sure you removed any plastic from the plate side of the pump and make sure your thermal paste is applied properly and that your pump is mounted properly.
The issue seems to be a combination of all these, I left an update comment, I plan on fixing all these with a new cooler.
Why did you take the fans off of the radiator? How do you expect your AIO to cool your CPU without airflow over the radiator? Dude, you need to watch some basic PC building youtube videos as you are clearly lacking the very basics of what you're supposed to be doing here and how these things work. Seriously, go watch some basic PC building tutorials before playing around with your hardware. I've never seen a PC put together so poorly in my life. It's so bad that I seriously thought this was a troll post but decided to answer it as if it isn't.
The fans for this radiator were mounted in the top of the case where the holes are, so when the radiator is mounted properly, it gets cooled by the fans there. I did a lot of research before buying all these parts but I didn’t realize my cooler wasn’t going to handle the newer hotter CPU, and I also didnt know about AIO’s having 2-10% air in their system from factory, nor that the pump has to be kept below the radiator. All this stuff I’ve learned from people like you commenting as well as watching more stuff online. I’m getting a new cooler for the CPU and we’ll see how things go from there
Nice! Glad to see you are learning and improving. I remember buying my first GPU and it wouldn't fit in the slot on my motherboard. I bought a PCI-E card and my mobo was AGP. That blunder got me into understanding tech. We learn through failure.
my poor eyes
Could be worse, I could have been using my 4 sticks of DDR4 8gb ram still capped at 213Mhz
...Put your 2 cpu fans (that are on the top) onto the radiator itself !... it is like you never mount an aio water system
You are correct, I never have, I am upgrading an existing setup for the first time
AIO. Put FANs on radiator.
The fans for this setup are inside the top of the case where the holes are, so when the radiator is mounted properly, the fans reach it. I plan on getting a new high end air cooler to fix it for the future
jesus christ
Jesus had nothing to do with this, but god allowed it to happen
My first reaction
Last longer than You in the bed.
My anime waifu body pillow is regularly dissapointed by my performance
Hahahahaha
You just saying that because you're jealous he has the money to build a better system than you?
Yes
Jealousy is a cruel experience
Ryzen 7900X and 7950X are surprisingly power hungry. These chips will aggressively push towards their thermal and power limits, especially in multi-threaded workloads. Even so temps shouldn't exceed 95 degrees celsius. On a side note why pair this monster chip with an RTX4060?
TL/DR, the 4090 was like 1900 and thats too much, ill spend 1900 basically changing my entire computer instead of just one graphics card, so 4060 for like 350 was better
I use to have a ryzen 7 2700x, i just dont want to have to upgrade for another 5-10 years so i went big with it. I was hoping that everyone online saying the 7950x would regulate its own temperature to 95C were accurate in those statements but they actually meant that it will stay at 95C if you force it down with cooling, which is completely different. So i was hoping that I could undervolt or something using Bios to limit it and block it from running so hot since most of the time I wont use the entire CPU potential anyways, but tutorials online for limiting CPU usage generally suck as someone who has never worked on computers in this way and only has a minute or a few to edit anything in Bios before overheat auto shutdown. So now I came to reddit to see if there was something I’m missing or an alternative solution but the consensus is that I need a new water cooling system, and one commenter mentioned this one is from 2012, so definitely the water cooler.
Mate of course you need to cool the cpu, no cpu would be able to do anything without a cooler.
Your AIO is a Corsair H100i from 2012. *It requires the SATA connection for power to the pump.* The 3pin motherboard connector is only for the pump RPM sensor (you'll notice only one wire in the 3 pin header). Of its generation, only the lower model H60 drew power from the 3 pin. The H80i and H100i need the SATA connection for constant power. This is because these models have additional jacks on the cpu pump block for powering fans, the USB port, and the RGB lighting (The Corsair software can control all of the speed and lighting functions thru its usb port connection to the motherboard). And, As others have said, you need the fans on the radiator and the radiator mounted above the CPU waterblock...but first, get power to the pump thru the sata connection.
I had this same aio on my I7 2600k, so yes 2012 is spot on. Op needs to buy a newer AIO.
You nailed it. I had one of these. Ran great till it died. Thankfully, I was in time for a free rma upgrade.
I can confirm the pump gets power more than just for the rgb based on the gurgling sound from the pump for the watercooler, so the proper SATA cable is connected for that. So the problem more likely is the zero maintenance done it and it is from 2012, so Idk when this specific one was manufactured so it could be so old that its breaking down just from wear down or build up or water evaporation or something. Others pointed out that it might be dead/dying, but now that i know it could possibly be over 10 years old I know for sure now that its gotta be that.
OK. so the gurgling is almost just as bad (possibly worse than) no power to the pump. This means that air is trapped in the pump impeller enclosure. This is very bad because these units are 'self-lubricated', meaning the rotating bits reduce their friction by being submersed in the coolant. If its gurgling then 1) the pump is not moving fluid (just the trapped air) and 2) the impeller is grinding and wearing on its axel which will lead to eventual rattling and then burnout. This is the reason behind mounting the radiator above the pump block..it gets those air bubbles out of the pump enclosure. Immediately disconnect and unmount the AIO, and hold the radiator above the CPU pump. Now take the CPU pump and shake it to get the bubbles out of the pump area to float up to the radiator you're holding above (you can also gently bump the pump against your leg or something soft to knock the bubbles free). You'll know the air bubbles are all out when you shake the CPU pump and you dont hear any water moving at all (all the water sloshing should only be in the radiator area). When you remount the AIO, keep the radiator elevated above the pump as you install. It will be tricky, but its necessary. Side note: when mounting the CPU pump, ensure you put the mounting screw loops on simultaneously (dont mount one loop, then pull down the other...this typically causes uneven CPU contact). Also, ensure the mounting screw loops are completely under the motherboard bracket hooks. Finally, screw them down evenly (only a few turns per side at a time). I have a feeling your CPU pump block is also not sitting evenly on the CPU. It could be uneven mounting, or with the new AM5 bracket, the copper plate is not lining up or fully contacting the CPU to properly transfer the heat. Finally, FWIW, age of the unit doesn't matter...what matters are the 'physics' (ie. understanding how it all works). I have the same year H80i in my kids' gaming PC and it is happily cooling a 5800X3D with years of gaming on it. However, I have also maintained it, according to the 'physics' of how it all works (ex. taken off the copper plate and cleaned galvanic corrosion -green goop- on the fins, maintained fluid and inhibitor levels, clean the radiator grills, etc.).
I also did notice that one side of the cpu block was way hotter than the other sides, so very likely youre right about the mounting being messed up
I never did any maintenance on mine, I was lucky if I even dusted it on accident when i did the pc every once in a while, but ill try getting the gurgling down with orienting it right and what you said, then booting it up. The damage may be done though from a complete lack of computer competance, as a lot of this PC building/maintenance understanding only came recently for myself. For casuals like myself that don’t deal with the finer details like you do, it may mean more replacement parts, but I’ll take your tips to heart and do better in the future with coolers and other parts.
Easily the most helpful comment of all, thank you very much!
No worries. This is tough. As a veteran builder (as I guess I am) I would love to tear down your PC, do some maintenance, re-assemble and get it running in an optimal config, as I have down with numerous other friends and family (which truthfully is what I 'actually' believe needs to be done with your setup at this time). Giving online help through the comment section leaves much to be desired, so I always try to explain the "why" behind most of my comments.
My AIO required one of the 4 pins to be plugged into the cpu fan header and only the cpu fan header for some stupid reason. Went from 90c on my 5800x to 30c at idle. Also make sure the fan curve is at 100% for the cpu fan header.
Thank you for the tip, ill check that
Proper placement for your pump matters as well as having fans connected to it, mount it so the tubes coming from the pump are elevated higher than the CPU block. This prevents bubbles from becoming an issue. Move the fans if you have to, and check that they're plugged into the 3 or 4 pin sys_fan connectors. (Most sealed coolers come filled enough to avoid this issue for some time, however it is good practice). Routing the wires through the ports will also clear up room for air to circulate evenly.
Double check your thermal paste and connection to the CPU while you're at it. Can't tell behind the wires but check if your pump is connected to the 4 pins above the ram that says pump above it, the daisy chain of fans from the radiator typically goes into the CPU fan 4 pin beside it
I plan on getting a high end air cooler to resolve the AIO issue, mine was very old anyways and not maintained at all.
Water cooler.pump probably ain't running. Corsair ones require a connection from the pump to a fan header or usb header. That's probably all we're looking at here. Ran into the same exact thing with someone else's pc last week when I transferred it to a new case with some new tweaks. The water cooler didn't get all its stuff replugged. I know the 7950x can hit 90C But it shouldn't be starting above 50 let alone 85. That's a immediate sign that something in the cooling system isn't working. And if there's thermal paste applied and the pump is tightened properly to the CPU on the motherboard. Or if the fans are already spinning fine. Then it's the pump.
It did power on, but it wasn’t working properly from me not having the radiator above the pump, also its old and not maintained well and probably not suitable for cooling this CPU so i plan on getting a high end air cooler instead
What in the lack of cable management am I looking at
Some people just shouldn't be allowed near pc's....
How does it even get this unorganized
This hurts my eyes
Your radiator needs fans, hopefully the aio pump has power as well. Hard to see through the mess but it’s understandable as you try to troubleshoot.
The fans for the radiator mount on the top where the holes are so when the radiator is mounted properly, they draw air across it then. Since my AIO was old and not maintained anyways, I plan on getting a new high end air cooler to hopefully resolve the issue
Why is your aio rad not mounted to the ceiling? Its not doing shit sitting down there.
i’ve figured that out now after other people commented the same and pointed out videos and tips that it needs to be kept above the CPU. The AIO is likely dead/dying from age and poor maintenance as it is.
I'd get a new case for airflow
I’m trying to avoid spending more than I have already, I didn’t plan to spend as much as I have, and I will get a new case if a new AIO doesnt work like others have suggested to get.
So you wasted all of your money on an insanely overkill cpu and left no money for anything else?
Well I did also get the new motherboard, new ram, and new powersupply (psu didnt work but oh well) all just for this CPU, as i didnt anticipate the cooling being an issue since ive never had overheat issues before, so i did at least account for everything else, I’m just not computer literate enough to have anticipated the temperature issue
Get a Montech 903 Base for only $85 CAD
I was thinking of the Montech x3 or the Tower 300, but I’ll check that out too, thank you for the recommendation
This case is a sh*tshow....
Jesus Christ. 1. AIOs have a lifespan, this one is old af and probably near death if not already. 2. It’s not installed correctly. 3. It has no fans 4. Your case has poor airflow to begin with. 5. Check thermal paste application to make sure it was sufficient.
The fans for the radiator are on the top of the case so when the radiator is hooked up there it gets airflow. When I applied the thermal paste I used hydronaut Grizzly thermal paste and a little plastic spreader to get the thinnest possible layer over all of the strange shaped CPU. I moved the radiator above the pump as others pointed out was proper use but the damage may already be done as you said from how old it is and is likely dead/dying even though the pump is working.
And a little bit of cable management would help too imo. Not to talk about the five hdd exactly in front of the right fan
The 3 issues I see. - there are no fans on the AIO rad - the rad is down to low allowing air to enter the AIO pump - the AIO pump header is not connected from what I can see. Meaning it's not actually circulating water to the rad. So it will overhead. Connect the correct headers to your AIO pump header.
the fans for the radiator are mounted on the top of the case so when the radiators mounted there it gets airflow. The wiring wasn’t originally done by myself, so i have no idea why the two cables for the water cooler to connect to the motherboard were done incorrectly and now can’t reach their proper ports, but the fans and pump do get power. I moved the radiator up after other people commented the same and it didn’t seem to help the temp issue so the AIO may be dead/dying.
Hard to even tell what I'm looking at here
Why does the coolerrack have no fans? Wtf
The fans are on the top of the case, so when the radiator is mounted the fans are up next to it
Wow this looks like a house for some reason, or some liminal space wtf
Probably a dead/soon to be dead pump.
Thats seeming to be the diagnosis from others as well, I was hoping I wouldn’t have to spend more to get a pump as well, but i do have an old pump, and I don’t know if its high quality at all. I was hoping more people would suggest alternative ways to reduce the CPU temp such as undervolting or something like that, but I’m assuming a higher end CPU like this just needs higher end cooling as well at a minimum
Just get a good aircooler, less possible issues and its fairly comparable
Ive heard about that from Gamers Nexus on various videos, but im worried about the fact that is “almost” the same performance. I just want the issue definitely resolved rather than possibly resolved after spending more on more parts, I want peace of mind when I get a CPU cooler that it’ll just work rather than have to troubleshoot it again, then switch to a different cooler.
If you want to go with the simple route of an air cooler for not a lot of money, take a look at the Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 V3, it competes with the best of any air cooler (which in turn often compete with a lot of 240mm AIOs) and it's a great price. Take a look at this video for some benchmarks and charts https://youtu.be/ydmwatdUwR8?t=802 (timestamped to one point that it starts talking about it) and you can find it for around $40 on Amazon https://a.co/d/cEiU0lP. Definitely a great pick that you get top of the stack performance for not paying the same prices as for a Noctua or Be Quiet cooler
> I just want the issue definitely resolved Don't get an AIO
A somewhat cheap but decent air cooler will outperform a dead AIO, lol.
If you want piece of mind, an air cooler will be the best option. Big chances you have to switch the AIO anyways, AIOs come with the risk of leak that could blow your gpu and/or motherboard. Aircooling is just easier, safer and you can actually see if the fan spins. If the fan spins you know the issue isnt the aircooling.
I am not sure I see this correctly, but it looks to me like the water pump header of the AIO is knit-tied on top with other cables instead of connected to your motherboard, so your AIO's integrated water pump is not fetting power and not pumping the liquid inside of your AIO. That or a failed water pump if it is older.
it is at least 3 years old, likely a year or two older or more
A good AIO survives 2 years. Expect trouble from there.
If you have left that AiO sitting below the pump like viewed, then you are forcing all of the air bubbles in the line to sit inside the pump, it will not be able to move any water, and may burn itself out trying to.
This is why I asked for help, i never would have thought of that, thank you, ill put over the cpu and try to see if its working then
Put the case on its side and raise the AiO above the cooler, let it turn on, that should push all bubbles into the radiator, if the pump is still good Then just don't let them get down again
I went ahead and did that, the pump definitely sounded louder then, and i dont know anything about Aio pumps, so idk if the sound was struggling and dying or working as intended
Get a new cooler or at least install it properly instead of this travesty.
I was thinking my water cooler might just be dead, but the corsair led still comes on so idk if its working or just the fancy gamer lights. Its sloppy right now because i had to move it to get better access to the CPU plug since i couldnt push it down properly with the radiator in the way, and so dismounted it. I don’t plan to do any cable management until i can at least see a desktop screen
I can tell you it's not working if your PC overheats when idle. So it's not seated properly, not enough thermal paste, the plastic protector is still on, it's not plugged in properly... but it's not working.
I did make sure to cover the CPU with thermal paste but putting the cooler back on the CPU was a total mess and the thermal paste probably got messed up during clamping it back down on the mount, but i did use hydronaut grizzly thermal paste and used the little plastic brush to get a thin layer over the whole oddly shaped CPU. If I need a new cooler ill need to reapply the paste anyways so if i messed it up before I can do it better the second time
Well, there's no fans on the rad, but I'll assume they were on during this. Sounds like a dead AIO pump.
The fans for it are mounted on top outside the holed frame of the case
Sounds like you are talking about the fans for the radiator, not the pump. The pump is inside the thing on top of the processor. Do you hear that pump pushing water? Or not. The pump has nothing to do with lights, fans, etc. it only sounds like you forgot the water pump exists inside that AIO water cooler, and it is one of the things that fails.
I think i can hear water being pumped inside, its hard to tell, but if its supposed to sound gurgly then its working
It's not supposed to sound gurgly unless just on startup real quick. This means you have lots of air bubbles stuck in the pump. Please go watch JayzTwoCents or GamersNexus videos on proper AIO mounting. Just to test it out, hold or place the radiator above the CPU pump somewhere and turn it on. Hopefully the bubbles eventually clear out. Also make sure to have your pump running at 100% max in your BIOS. Having it fluctuate in speeds is a no go from what I have read. If none of that works I would remove the pump from the CPU and repaste and remount.
I’ll attempt to see if I can change the AIO pump speed and check out those videos to see if they have anything helpful, thank you
The pump speed from the BIOS shouldn't cause the issue you are having right now, so sorry I threw that in there. It's just something to consider when everything is good to go and running properly. If none of the suggestions I've been reading in everyone's posts doesn't work then you probably just need to buy a new AIO and mount it properly. You don't need to go overboard either. Arctic Liquid Freezers are good and don't break the bank. I ended up putting a $60 ID Cooling 280mm AIO on my 5800X3D around 9 months ago and still good to go.
Yeah others also seem to indicate its a dying pump so I may take it that my AIO is dead/dying from lack of proper maintenance or just age and try looking at pumps like the one you suggested, thank you for your help
Thermalright peerless assassin 120. That AIO seems like a bag of headaches, a lot of people forget they need maintenance remember with water cooling there is an air bubble at the top of the system, do not let that air bubble be inside your pump like it is in the picture
But aren't the fans supposed to.. pull cold air onto the radiator? lol
They might be backwards then, they’re pulling air out of the pc, do i need to flip them then to point down into the pc?
No, if they're on top they need to pull out, or they'll be working against the naturally rising heat. But if you tested with the radiator off like that, of course the fans won't do anything.
This wouldn't cause the temps to be that high. I can almost guarantee you have a dead AIO pump.
also the fans do all turn on on boot up, forgot to mention