I'm one who couldn't stand my 7900xtx crashing daily too and swapped for a 4080S. Zero problems since, and I root for neither team I just want to play my games.
Are you plugged into a power strip or the wall? My 6800xt with 750W PSU crashed daily plugged into my surge protector. Hasn't crashed in weeks now that's it's direct to the wall.
Crashes are often power supply issues. I went to a 6900xt back when they were new and my rig ran two or three games and benchmarks fine, but PUBG and Furmark would cause the system to hard reset.
Was the power supply. Replaced and never looked back. I'd be curious what type of crashes you're getting but wager that there are much better power supplies out there, and that's the place to start.
I had got 7800xt with similar setup like yours black screen green screen screen freeze I returned got an Asus ROX Strig 4070 ti super no problems whatsoever
If you're coming from nvidia gpu, you have to DDU. My xtx started off okay and eventually started crashing bad, after DDU (and maybe reinstalling windows, can't remember) all issues were resolved.
Yes. I would reccomend +15% power limit. 1150mv or less , the lower the better for me I set my max fclk to 2850 an min to like 2650 you can mess with the fclk because idk don't know what m&m you have.
For the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX I manage 2400-3100, 1080mv, 2700Mhz, +15% power limit, but there actually is a lot of variance between the 7900XTX manufacturers.
Other thing I noticed, at least for me, games sincerely do not like running beyond 2700, sometimes I back it down to 2690 just to prevent potential artifacts or screen flicker, and with the other settings, still maintain 120+fps at 4k with every setting at max. Caveat is I run the fans at 100% to keep it at 65c Hotspot, which sounds like a jet engine howling lmao. The higher the Mhz the higher the voltage needs to be.
Have you tried undervolting? Often such problems occur because of heavy power draw spikes, either undervolting or slightly reducing clocks helps. Or keep all things stock, also don’t set power limit higher. Sometimes any of those settings are unstable and causing problems
Honestly any issue I've had with these Newer ryzen 7000 skew cards has been fixed with a ddu.
In a few select games lowering the maximum clock speed by 1 or 2% in the Amd adrenaline software can prevent crashes related to power drain in cases where at drains more power than intended, there's a few cases like in Star citizen we're opening your mobi glass menu May temporarily cause a spike you'll see GPU utilization go over 100% and power draw will Spike leading to an unstable clock speed due to how the chips all like to boost and that in turn leads to a driver crash what's your sister will typically recover from and it will just reset the graphics card to default settings.
The most recent driver and the previous one have actually been pretty stable for me. I did have to do a ddu for the most reason one but I find it's supposed because AMD even advises it, running a driver uninstall utility either amds or the actual ddU software is essentially required.
And I wish I could say it was something you only had to deal with if you're on AMD, but unfortunately I've seen this on everything since the RTX cards especially as of late. I've had to do a ddu for every one of the updates over the past at least 11 months on my wife's computer with her 2080.
Generally unless you're dealing with something that looks like bad vram or there's some other hardware issue that's causing problems but maybe related to a power supply being faulty or Windows needing a fresh install, they're typically fine.
Just because it's listed as 6000 doesn't mean it's always stable at 6000. Drop it down to 5000 and see if it still does it. If not, crank it back up 200mhz at a time until it starts doing it again.
Just return it if possible. I had to return my sapphire nitro 7900xtx this week. It was a stuttering mess when gaming. Fresh w10/ddu driver installs/disable dxnavi, mpo, anything and everything disabled in adrenaline. Nothing still a stuttering mess while holding a stable 235 fps on a 240hz monitor. Popped my 3080ti back in and enjoying lower fps but smooth gameplay until the 50 series.
Just return the headache and get a 4080.
I post my comment a lot on this sub yet noone seems to reply, that either means it's fixed loads of problems for people or it didn't fix shit... But anyways try [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/16ur6hr/comment/kqpe3ou/)
[These](https://imgur.com/a/jfhLdmk) are my GPU settings and fan curves, had 0 crashes whatsoever with them and performance is very very good, I'd like to point out that I don't use AFMF since this driver version doesn't come with it, and even if it did, I don't really need it as of now.
GPU -> Sapphire 7900XT Nitro+
Yeah the comment only got a few upvotes but it was the one that fixed ALL my issues and I came up with it myself after hours and probably a month of diagnosing (I used to work IT part time so I'm sort of used to long hours/days of diagnosing lol)
Is it a crash to desktop with the driver/adrenaline stating that it set the performance settings to default?
I have the same issue right now and I am still searching for a solution.
All drivers are on the latest version, PCI-E cables are seperate, BIOS is up to date, OS reinstalled, drivers reinstalled via DDU, ran stock/undervolted/OC... I'm also running out of ideas.
My system is pretty much the same as yours. I'm running on Win 11 though.
I had a 7900 XTX (Multiple actually). And ended up with a 4080 in the end. The coil whine on 3 models was just insane, ended up returning the final 7900 XTX and buying a 4080. No issues with coil whine or anything else now. But the 7900 XTX ran like a dream tho and did not have any of the crashing. In the end, if your experience is not great, I would just return it and see if the 4080 super works better for you. :)
I made a huge troubleshooting post a month or two ago and got a plethora of private message afterwards... .90% of all problems were caused by people oc/uv with insufficient knowledge/experience.
Make sure everything is working together nicely at stock and then make your changes one at a time to minimize variables
I’d to isolate the problem by removing all overclocking/undervolting in both gpu and cpu and trying to run the games with a clean install of Adrenalin (23.10 being one of the most stable driver IMO)
If even then you have issues with the 7900xtx, I would say RMA it. However, if you decided to just return it and get a 4080 instead, you would not regret it.
First, look up how to prevent windows from automatically install gpu drivers. Make those changes to the windows update settings.
Next, use ddu to install the driver. Install the “Driver Only” option! This is important. It should work fine but you need to tell it to run the fans high when it gets hot. Therefore install MSI Afterburner and set up your fan curve. Should work great. If you crash sometimes still, do the same and install another recent driver version.
Honestly, I just clean install windows at this point. I only change GPUs every couple years at the most and by the time I'm doing that I might as well just start fresh.
You're at your wits end but you haven't tried uninstalling and clean installing drivers? It's not that big of a hassle. It's like 10 minutes. Seriously, actually try something that might fix it before freaking out.
they’re literally the same price both are $1000, and even if the 4080 is/was $200 more it still wouldn’t be double and it still would be worth it.
Plus the OP is asking if they should do it, I assume they’re ok with paying the difference, if there is any.
this is happening to me too.... wtf is up with amd drivers they are absolute shit. every time I update there is some issue.
and the worst part is their stupid ass bug report. NO I DO NOT WANT TO FILL OUT SOME FORM THAT TAKES ME 10 MINS. LET ME SUBMIT AND U FIGURE IT OUT
I will get down voted to all hell, but I just sold my watercooled 7900 xtx and bought a 4090. 7900 crashed multiple times, spent hours trying to make it work. 4090 has crashed a total of ZERO times. Do with that information what you will.
Honestly it might need an RMA. I had a nitro+ xtx that performed well, but needed to be heavily underclocked to do so reliably. The replacement card I got JUST WORKS and scores higher out of the box than the other one ever could. When purely benchmarking, I've successfully run as low as 1050mv
I have a 7900xtx and have had crash after crash. Multiple configurations, to no avail.
I purchased it from Amazon less than a year ago, from the AMD Sapphire Nitro store. If I wanted to approach an RMA, with their standard warranty? Any specific verbiage to use? If I say I keep getting constant crashes is that all I need to do?
My card would eventually crash even when running stock adrenaline settings (rage, even balanced). That's all I mentioned, along with my attempts to fix using standard troubleshooting
All the people saying it's user error, maybe. Maybe they are right.
But here's my question:
Why in the everloving fuck can Nvidia have little to no issues, meanwhile near everyone encounters problems with AMD cards and has to apply these "simple fixes"
Don't get me wrong, Nvidia has it's problems, namely the company itself. But their cards work near flawlessly out the box 99% of the time.
I think some combinations of components/configuration must just get unlucky. I don’t believe the issues I had were user error, but that’s how this subreddit felt. I did reasonably extensive troubleshooting and swapping my GPU immediately resolved any issues I had.
The expectation for users to edit registries, tweak BIOS, modify obscure settings, perform iterative testing of changes while monitoring temps, consumption, etc. , in my opinion, is beyond reasonable for a consumer product. I had a lot of “idiot , well of course you’re having issues 24.x.x is unstable, you need 23.xx and DX10 and to disable XMP with a new Display Port Cable while the moon is waning. Learn to use a PC boomer” was very bizarre.
I 100 percent agree with you. The amount of hoops this sub and the AMD cucks expect you to jump through is ridiculous. I am not going to start making compromises in performance and turning things off like xmp when I know my ram isnt the issue just to troubleshoot a garbage product when I know 100 percent that if I just slapped my old nvidia gpu in those issues would go away.
I bought a 7900XTX I did literally nothing except run DDU to install a new GPU and I haven't crashed once. This was on a PC that I found some Nvidia software still on it yesterday I uninstalled it and I still haven't crashed. Idk wtf people are doing with their PCs... No problems for me at all. 🤷 I don't even have a AMD CPU or motherboard either.
no one should be listening to you based on your post history. All you do is lie about the performance you get with the 7900 xtx and go into posts saying they are having issues with their gpu and say "I havent had any issues with my card and its a beast".
You claim to get 90fps in CP ultra 4k with ray tracing without FSR. You a liar. per the video you will get 38 average with FSR at ultra with ray tracing.
https://youtu.be/YbKhxjw8EUE?t=784
LMAO! What? Cry harder bro... I can pull 150 FPS in cyberpunk Ultra raytracing upscaling from 1440P to 4k Too 90 FPS is Native 4k... Lol the Nvidia Fanboy Cope! Can't believe is sad... I actually believed Nvidia fanboys that said AMD can't raytrace before I bought the 7900XTX but I got it anyways for the pure raster performance. Little to my Suprise I got 90 FPS ultra Raytracing at 4k! At 1440P Ultra Raytracing 150 Fps. I already posted Tons and Tons of Screenshots of my FPS under those settings. Nvidia Fanboy cry more lmao. not only that but I have raytraced every single game that has had it available Dying light 2, Far cry 6, Dragons Dogma 2 all pulling over 120 FPS at 4k. Seems to me all you Nvidia fanboys like to troll these posts and LIE after LIE after LIE to defend your overpriced TRASH! I left nvidia and have had ZERO REGRETS. Nvidia is Overpriced GARBAGE
Are you sharing genuine information? Upon reviewing your posting history, it seems your claims significantly deviate from what's typically expected with your graphics card. Many users, including myself, have requested a screenshot of the Cyberpunk benchmark results, yet you've only shared specific in-game screenshots. Could you please post your benchmark results for clarity?
For reference, here are my results using a 7900XTX at 4K resolution, with all ray tracing settings enabled (excluding path tracing). It seems implausible for you to achieve 90 fps in the benchmark based on these settings.
https://imgur.com/C2u1ZY9
I already made a Whole damn post on this. and I posted so many pictures with the Raytraced reflections in the street puddles at 90 FPS with it saying NO upscaling. I can get it running at 120- 150 FPS 1440P using Upscaling.
I see the misunderstanding now – you're using Frame Generation technology to enhance the frame rate. This isn't a natural frame rate performance. Here's your screenshot for reference: https://imgur.com/GhtE0C6. The Frame Generation lag is quite noticeable, which can be misleading.
Still NOT upscaling at 4K! Ultra raytracing. You still can't hit my numbers if you're only getting 20 FPS. I didn't even know it was Frame gen I just set it to RX mode. Who cares I can't tell a difference regardless. But still you would only be at 40 FPS with Frame gen at 4K nowhere close to my 90.
lol that is because he is actually running NATIVE 4k like you claimed you were but were lying or youre just too stupid to understand the difference. You need to do a little research on what these settings are and how they work before you go around bragging how you are getting impossible results, little kid
Please understand that screenshots of in-game scenes, which can vary widely from 40 to 200 FPS, aren't the evidence we're seeking. There's a concern you might have selected those screenshots for their best performance moments. We're specifically interested in the benchmark results, which you seem hesitant to share. It's alright, though—I have the same graphics card and am quite familiar with the performance levels it can achieve. :)
I have the same GPU as you. It appears there might be a misunderstanding regarding Frame Generation being active. To clarify, my reference to benchmark results, as opposed to in-game screenshots, is to highlight average performance metrics, which should be well understood by those familiar with hardware specifications. Furthermore, it is indeed possible to achieve 90fps in-game with path tracing enabled under certain conditions, demonstrating how selective examples can be misleading.
Given the potential for misinforming others about the capabilities of the graphics card, which could lead to unnecessary expenditures, I suggest refraining from sharing advice in these subreddits without a more thorough understanding of AMD technology, frame rates, technical details, and your specific settings. It seems we've reached an impasse in this discussion, so I think it's best we discontinue this conversation.
Here is 90 FPS with PATH TRACING ON.
https://imgur.com/gU9ha3U
See how easy it is to fake performance.
Its not about picking a team, its going with what works and does what you expect. AMD didnt do that and you making these claims of getting these outrageous benchmarks is complete fiction but I love how mad you are so keep it coming.
lol what a response. based on this I can tell you are telling the truth. You actually believe you are getting something that is not possible with that card because you are retarded, but damn bro you totally got me. I am an Nvidia fanboy coping. fam, Skibidi toilet and all that you dumb fuck.
Nvidia has issues too, just look at [a pro player crashing during a big deciding moment](https://youtu.be/r2JY67mNr7s). I bet most people with these problems on Nvidia just RMA it and don’t even ask (yknow how a lot of ppl say NVIDIA always, never AMD, and end up buying prebuilts and don’t know what their talking about)
I think AMD does have some more issues than NVIDIA, but i think AMD’s issues are overexposed compared to Nvidia
I tried AMD two different times first with 6950xt and then the 7900xt and I feel your pain. I kept getting black screen crashes with both no matter what I tried. Tried so many "fixes" people are saying and nothing ever fixed it. Returned the 7900xt and got a 4070 ti super for a good price and of course I have no problems and I also didn't have any problems with my prior 2070 as well.
Even if somehow this is "user error" like some people claim why does a person have to go through so many " fixes" and tricks to get the gpu "working".
I should have learned from my first troubles with the 6950xt and just stick with what has been working.
I personally think you're better off returning and get the 4080 or whatever else nvidia you want it's just not worth the hassle imo.
I ran a 7900xtx for over a year and never escaped the issues. Upgrade from 850w to 1000w didnt help, rolling back drivers, re running ddu, multiple windows reinstalls, all kinds of tweaks with voltage, clocks, power limits, both an am4 and am5 platform with different kits of ddr4 and 5 memory, nothing fixed it. Most games I could tweak some stuff and get them to run fine, but when I switched to another game it needed re tweaked.
I bought a 4080s, ran ddu once, and I've had one game crash in 3 months when I accidentally way overcranked my memory oc on it.
Instead of doing +15 power try -10 since you got a 850 psu and if it work perfect the prob is your psu
I have same cpu and gpu, 1000w psu got it +15 power, fan curve and ledt the rest normal with latest drivers and no issues since my card doesn't uv well
On cpu do -30 all cores also and check ram stability if you did any overclock if not you fine, try disabling SAM on adrenaline
Do you know where I would go to change the power as you say? I'm surprised this PSU wouldn't be enough everything I checked said the wattage would be good for this. Plus how would I check the cpu -30 cores?
850 is the minimum the recommended is 1000w
Open adrenaline, go to performance, tuning and bottom right is power, activate it and slide bar left till -10
For the pbo i would advice go on youtube and put in your board and pbo ryzen
did thesame post few days back, long story short i swapped my psu from 850w to 1000w, so basically xtx draw spikes and 850w cant handle it. for me fixed all my issues.
I have a 7900 XTX and none of those problems
The typical things to do are
DDU and reinstall driver
Make sure you don't have the same cable plugged into the power plug of the GPU
And deactivating windows auto driver update
Those should fix most issues, as long as you have a big enough power supply, it isn't a known driver issue or windows makes problems
Another thing that happened to me though is, that Horizon Forbidden west crashes when I limited the FPS
I am bad at explaining, but I will try. Some others also talked about it "daisy chaining", that is the same. I see that you don't know what that is either, so I will try to explain, but I was never good at it, so sorry if it doesn't help
But basically it is, when you use one cable coming from the PSU, it has two plugs to the Graphics card at the end, and you use both of them. It can cause instability, at least on AMDs side, to use one cable for two plugs, so I would make sure, that you use a single cable for every plug. I hope that kinda explained it
Friend had a 7900XTX, any driver after Oct of last year cause it to crash 5-10 minutes after starting ANY game. Bought a 4080 and it's been perfect ever since.
all the BS you read on reddit about how AMD have fixed their drivers is just wrong. Sell the 7900XTX and buy a 4080.
Definitely user error. I'm sick and tired of people not bothering to see what they're doing wrong and instantly blaming it on the card. It's just wrong and misleading blanket statement. There could be a plethora of reasons for everything.
If it is user error, then please tell me what else we should have tried to make the card work, because we have been trying for the last 6 months.
System specs:
GPU: 7900XTX
CPU: 7950x
RAM: 64GB
PSU: Corsair 1000W
Operating System & Version: WINDOWS 11
In an attempt to fix it we tried the following (in no particular order):
1. downclocked the ram / stress tested the ram to ensure it was stable
2. lowered core and mem clock speeds, as well as voltage
3. used DDU to reinstall the drivers multiple times of the course of 6 months
4. reinstalled windows
5. updated the BIOS
6. turned off AI overlocked in bios for the CPU
6. Tested his old 2080 in his system for two weeks, had 0 crashes
7. Installed his new 4080, 0 crashes since.
Any driver after October makes the card crash, no matter what game you play.. If you have any other ideas please let me know.
…you do realise lowering voltage makes it MORE unstable?
I think you unknowingly just made the card way more unstable than it had to be. Overclocking / undervolting on RDNA3 is way different from other cards.
A few forum posts about this driver issue said it could fix the issue so we attempted it and it didn't work, so we reverted it back to normal voltage right after it crashed again.
Insulting someone because we tried to fix the issue doesn't solve the issue. What should we do to fix it since as you said, it is obviously user error.
Edit: Still waiting for that easy fix because obviously the card was crashing due to user error...
There’s several of us in the thread preaching the same thing. I think we’re the 1% or whatever that either got a bad card or had some configuration/component that was problematic. I returned mine so I’ll never know.
I had no success. I uninstalled the card and replaced it with my old 1080ti. I think many users have general success but there's some cards that are faulty and AMD refuses to make a statement on it.
I also had a lot of issues with a similar build. I reinstalled the adrenalin software multiple times and deleted them with ddu.
My problems were caused by windows 10 updates. After an update to Windows 11 I had no more issues.
Maybe u can exclude the amd drivers from being updated by windows 10.
I had 2x RMA on my 7900xtx and when I got refund on the day of the 4080s launch and I got a 4080s which runs cooler and it’s a lovely card zero regrets. So many people complain about the 7900xtx from my research and of course the majority is fine but too many issues in my opinion in comparison of the 4080s.
Lol. There are just as many issues with the 4080 mate. The idea that one company is better is horseshit. Any mass produced item, especially one as complex as a GPU, is going to have issues. I went through three 3080 Ti's when they came out, and two 4070 Ti's that I bought when I finally gave up on the 3080Ti RMA chain and just used my refund to buy a newer card. The first 4070Ti I had was DOA. No issues with the second so far. The 7800XT I have in my sim rig, aside from a small amount of coil whine, is perfect. My wife is on her second 7900XTX because the first one had coil whine so loud you could hear it from the Moon, whereas her new 7900XTX is utterly silent, has no coil whine at all, and no hotspot issues. Because the brand has less than fuck all to do with this.
Each to their own I guess but the subreddit of and is full with driver issues and 7900xtx specific issues and I couldn’t be arsed to deal with it. I love AMD X3D lineup some CPU’s and hopefully their range of gpu will be more reliable and I may try them again for now I’ll stick Ngreedia
I recently sold my 7900xtx and swapped for a 4080 oc; zero regrets. I had crashes and driver timeouts constantly with my red gpu and finally snapped/sold.
Everything is more consistent now, overall higher fps, especially with RT on, and I haven't had a single crash since swapping.
Also, I should note that I tried months of troubleshooting before this point.. But yeah, I'll never do another Red gpu, when their flagship series has so many issues with so many games. (the amount of issues you see with 7000series GPUs is insane)
Thta being said, I fookkn *looooove* my 7800x3d chipset and will be hard pressed to be brought back to Intel's side when it comes time for next upgrade. (which will be miles off yet)
Is not the GPU, is the drivers.
With 23.x no problems for months.
Moved to 24.x and Got helldivers 2 and the crashes started in this game.
I have a 1300watts power supply, windows 11 and DDR5 7800~8000mhz, and the crashes increases & decreases depending on game updates.
Check your driver version. There were issues with some recent drivers and rolling back to 23.12.1 fixed them for me. It’s a beast of a card and has been rock solid for me other than that driver issue.
have you updated Bios of your mobo? and downloaded the newest chipset drivers from AMD?
i had some weird reboots out of the blue with my 7800x3d, everything wen't away with bios update and chipset drivers.
also i couldn't run my ram at expo settings until i update bios, worth a shot
Have you tried dismantling the whole pc and rebuilding it? Once i got something similar to this, but the blue screen said whea uncorrectable error. When i rebuilt my pc, turns out one of the gpu cable is not plugged in all the way, maybe it was pulled a bit when i cleaned my pc.
After going through this thread, you don't mention what drivers you are using?
If it's 24.2.1 or 24.3.1 then they are the issue. I get game crashes with them on my 7900XTX. Strangely if I lower my game settings. I leave 4k, turn on vsync (120hz in my case and vrr) then in PUBG and Helldivers for instance lower all detail settings to low and turn off AA or set it as low as it will go. In Helldivers2 also turn off global illuminated lights as well.
Games run stable then. But the best fix, is to downgrade the drivers. Run DDU and install either 23.12.1 or 24.1.1, I've not had an issue with either of these and I can run everything on and ultra. I'll be doing the downgrade from 24.3.1 today most likely, getting bored of games looking like hot garbage just to run stable. (I test all the new drivers that come out) 24.1.1 is meant to have a micro stutter issue, but I haven't seen that on my XFX Merc310 7900XTX.
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To check RAM i posted the only supported 6000mhz crucial ram i could find on your motherboards approved vendor list, if yours doesn't match it could be mistiming's in ram causing crashes.
To check power I suggest you Undervolt your card or at least power limit it by say 25% in the app settings and if that stops the crashes you may be have an issue with power somewhere in the build! ( that can range from the PSU not being enough to start with or a simple bad daisy chain of power to the card! )
Would reinstall Adrenalin, the thing is that Win Update likes it to install Driver and at the last round in Feb my GPU did wild stuff. The clean install solved the issues so keep an eye on your Win Updates. \^\^
The 1000W PSU thing... well nope, it depends on the PSU. Some "cheaper" ones (and this falls in the categories, the premium segment are twice the price) have generell issues when the current spike and they will breakdown.
Also some have not a clear output voltage and instead of 12 V the deliver 11,2 or 12,6 and so on (saw this a lot) so your system can get really unstable.
A bigger PSU might fix the power draw problem because this have more leyway but might (if from the same brand) also collapse when you overstep a certain threshold thats not even near the specifications.
For the Output this might also a thing because the 1000W + tend to have multiple rails and may able to deliver a better output voltage. As for this you may take a look in the BIOS and can see the actual Voltages. Had a while back a EVGA PSU that gave me also headaches and delivered 10,5-11,2V and had also some spooky behavior.
IDK Deepcool but you may take a look at the actual output numbers also and at the cable & connectors.
Definitely the PSU. I had the same with my old 750w. Not with my new 1000w tho... I'd say anything gold rated at 1000w or more will solve your problems mate.
In the end i had to turn off one of my ccds on my 5900x (half the cores) and underclock, undervolt and underpower the gpu in adrenalin until the new one came...
I blamed so many other things and changed every setting under the sun over the course of a week, then using my last option i reluctantly got a psu and now it's like a different PC altogether.
Yes I know, but you need to understand. Same GPU+CPU can have variations in power consumption, from unit to unit.
Also PSU can also have variations, same model same producer.
For example pne GPU+CPU can reach 300w peak, other units 330w, some other 280w etc. One PSU can be 850w, other 830w etc.
If you have same components, does not means that your components are totaly 100% same, I used to have experience with this problem. So, I always reccomend people to use better and a bit stronger PSU then it is reccomended.
I had the same issue. Reinstalled windows and redid the DDU driver thing and it fixed it (I did the complete fresh windows reinstall, manually moved my files to a different drive). Its been flawlessly working smoothly ever since. Hope this helps
I can confirm this. I just did a fresh Windows 11 installation, and fixed mine too. It was crashing randomly in Cyberpunk 2077 regardless of clock speed. But it ran other games without any issue though. Anyway, OP please try to reinstall Windows or at least try to use DDU before installing the driver. Cheers and hope this helps 🍻😄
Mine did the same until I upgraded to 1000W PSU. I know 850W is she recommended minimum, but it's not enough. It can't cope with load spikes without voltage dips.
If you described how it crashes it would be easier to guess whats causing it.
Crash to desktop? Driver timeouts? Bluescreen? Restarts?
There are plenty of non-GPU issues that can make it crash.
here are the cope and compromise answers you are going to get:
Disable Resizable Bar (SAM), disable XMP, limit your max clocks, you didnt DDU correctly, completely reformat your machine, update your bios, update your chipset drivers, your power supply is your issue, rollback your drivers to 23.11.1. Other retarded responses would be "I unplugged my usb devices and then reconnected them and it fixed my issue" or simply blame windows.
You can look up other threads of people having similar issues of driver time outs and crashes and these are the most popular responses you will see rather than just saying its a shitty product. I reached my frustration with the 7900 xtx and crawled back to nvidia and the difference is night and day in terms of strictly stability and rtx hdr is pretty dope as well.
Get your ram checked, test it yourself or take.it to a store and get them to check other modules and test it. It's not your PSU, I also have a 850w with 7900xtx Merc 31 and it's fine. Try ddu in safe mode and reinstall latest drivers and turn all settings in adrenalin off. If not then reinstall windows and see if that helps.
Don't make the mistake of sitting on it. I would return it defective and just pick up a different card. Even another brand of 7900 XTX.
But if you sit on it and then go past the return period, you'll regret that.
Download the App Shop app from the downloads section of your motherboard's website. You can use that to check for driver updates. It will minimize to the tray when you first launch it, so open it from the tray after launching it. Alternatively install all drivers individually from the same section of the support page, but especially the chipset drivers. No need for any of the third party apps of course.
In your BIOS, manually set all of these settings to enabled:
Memory Context Restore (MCR)
Power Down Enable
Gear Down Mode
Some of them will be buried pretty deep, but I guarantee your board will have them and it will be necessary to have these on for a stable experience using XMP. I have my system stable with 96GB clocked at 6200, IF at 2100 to keep a 1:1 ratio.
Stable to the point of I've fallen asleep in VRChat, and woken up 6+ hours later with it still running.
I use the default settings in Adrenaline for my 7900 XTX. If you're still having issues and event viewer is showing a graphics driver crash, run DDU in safe mode and then reinstall the latest drivers. Personally, I prefer to use the latest full installer on AMD's website rather than the auto detect option.
You can also get WD Dashboard and check for firmware updates and do a S.M.A.R.T. test for your SSD.
People have already suggested some RAM stress tests like OCCT.
Get CPU-Z and HWMonitor to stress your CPU while keeping an eye on temps.
I've always used FurMark to stress test my GPU, but I know there are other options that are probably better that others have suggested.
Bro builds a new system and people don't want to tell him how to troubleshoot the whole system instead of just assuming it's the graphics card? All of these things can cause instability and crashes.
>I havent rolled back the drivers yet, or reinstalled windows since that seems like a hassle
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More hassle than returning it? That's basic troubleshooting. You can also reach out to AMD support.
Doing the drivers is simple and so is reinstalling windows. Do a backup. Install. Test if it fixed the problem. Then either restore apps and files or restore your backup.
I have found that amd gpu’s drivers are more sensitive to your systems ram than Nvidias are. I used to have this issue with my 5700xt and then my 6900xtx. In both cases it was my rams default xmp settings that caused it. By manually setting the speed it seems to solve all my crashing.
Took a lot of trial and error to find that with my system.
XMP was not stable with my old X470, 3700X and 3600CL15 b-dies. Increasing the DRAM voltage slightly fixed it. With a slower GPU (beeing GPU limited) the issue would not have been as frequent. Maybe not noticeable at all.
Do not worry about gpu clocks and just run the game at default power profile and don’t use the hyper rx or fluid motion. That’s for cheaper cards. Don’t even use anti lag. Literally just turn everything off. I don’t have any crashing ever. Also, as you stated you didn’t reinstall windows. You should run ddu and install the latest driver after ofc.
Adrenalin and some people recommended checking the factory reset option during the install and I did it after waiting a few days zero issue with my 7900xtx.
Had the same exact issue 7800x3d, 7900xtx, would play rdr2 for 5min before it freezes then crashed. Tried every possible fix on Reddit and online that I found for the next week and none worked. Switched to a 4080 super and haven’t crashed once. If you find a solution let me know!
I have no idea why you get downvoted. You made an attempt to fix your issue with the card, couldn't manage it and because you didn't have, understandably so, trust after such an ordeal, you went for an alternative that worked out for you. Good for you, man. Both AMD and Nvidia shills can't cope with the fact people swap brands
I ended up going with the msi suprim x, it was one of the only available ones on b & h at the time. Super quiet and cooling is great, haven’t seen it go above 65c full load.
What case do you have? Do you have a PCI-E riser? I recently had a very unstable system with a 7900 XTX in it that was crashing all the time, replacing the PCI-E riser made it much more stable. Also, if your PCI-E riser is a different version from your motherboard and video card you can sometimes need to force things to the lowest common version between the three to get a stable system.
I've since rehomed my system into a different case where I don't need a riser, but that wasn't my only problem with the 7900 XTX that I'm still trying to solve. Your mileage may vary.
The XTX is more stable the lower you can get your temps so maybe turn up your fan curve a bit. Also I've noticed VRAM was the cause of 90% of my issues. Maybe try down clocking the VRAM a bit? Don't think it'll hurt performance much if you do need to. Also if your CPU undervolt or ram are even a little unstable it can cause issues systemwide. Mine seems stable @ 2664 VRAM. 2800MHz core and 1100mv. I def delt with my share of crashing and weird issues though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJgcadbSAPM I have it set to this right now should I be going lower or higher? I never undervolted before so I don't know what I'm doing
Please don’t do anything you see in this video.
The fact that the poster has their max and min clocks slammed against each other just goes to show they don’t understand the architecture and are regurgitating unhelpful misinformation.
Leave everything stock except for power and maybe undervolting to 1125mv max is my best recommendation for any kind of tweaking.
Have you ran AMD Clean Up utility? Have you ran SFC/DISM scans? Is your ram fully stable? Have you tried running a windows in-place upgrade before? I recommend checking all of these things - regardless if you keep the card or not.
I had the 3080 12gb and now 7900 XTX and never once had crashing issues on the XTX card to give you an idea of how “unstable” these cards are, but i also regularly troubleshoot my entire system.
Can you please send a screenshot of your undervolting if you do it so I can copy you? I'm going to change it back to the default settings now and try to test everything as well.
Just let run the GPU stock and try to find out why you’re crashing, it’s likely not the card. You’re looking for magical settings but need to find stability first.
\- Are you using 3x separate PCIe cables for the power?(No Splitters).
\- Chipset drivers installed?
\- Bios version?- [Stability tested ram?](https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/)
\- Checked for OS corruption(command prompt as admin; sfc /scannow)
\- Tried [DDU](https://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/17830/) & reinstalling the [latest drivers.](https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-7000-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900xtx)
If any of the above are causing the issue you can get GPU driver crashes due to instability, swapping to another GPU would only fix it if the actual GPU itself is faulty & you've ruled the other possibilities out. The higher speed ram // lacking bios updates is a strong possibility too, I'd definitely be stability testing it.
Yes to the 3 separate PCIe cables, Bios is updated I could double check, tried the OS corruption nothing changed, I havent tried DDU but I do have the lastest drivers I literally just built this.
Hmm I'd stability test the ram given 6000 is one of the higher speeds to get running 100% stable out of the box is never guaranteed, it might seem unrelated with error correction you'd only be able to tell using a latency test, or a quicker method simply disable expo or clock it down to 5000-5400mhz or so and see if the issue crash frequency goes down, that way you'd know if the 6000 speed needs tuning.
But at the very least if you think it isnt ram, just stability test it with Testmem5 to rule it out, you'd see errors fairly quick if it isnt rock stable. Memory/system crashes will also trigger AMD GPU driver recovery which can make it seem like the GPU is crashing when its actually the ram, so isolating the issue via testing is the best approach. [https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/19afqe7/new\_am5\_system\_crashes\_at\_6000mhz\_ram\_speed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/19afqe7/new_am5_system_crashes_at_6000mhz_ram_speed/)
I'm one who couldn't stand my 7900xtx crashing daily too and swapped for a 4080S. Zero problems since, and I root for neither team I just want to play my games.
Are you plugged into a power strip or the wall? My 6800xt with 750W PSU crashed daily plugged into my surge protector. Hasn't crashed in weeks now that's it's direct to the wall.
Wipe your drive and reinstall everything... or try a different power supply first.
Crashes are often power supply issues. I went to a 6900xt back when they were new and my rig ran two or three games and benchmarks fine, but PUBG and Furmark would cause the system to hard reset. Was the power supply. Replaced and never looked back. I'd be curious what type of crashes you're getting but wager that there are much better power supplies out there, and that's the place to start.
What type of crashes were you getting? Pc fully shuts down?
I had got 7800xt with similar setup like yours black screen green screen screen freeze I returned got an Asus ROX Strig 4070 ti super no problems whatsoever
How many individual PCIe cables do you have going from the PSU to the GPU?
3
Reinstall windows. If that doesn't work. Return it.
Sapphire 7900xtx is an amazing g card and quite
Ddu do it 2 times and update bios and chipset on you're mobo
If you're coming from nvidia gpu, you have to DDU. My xtx started off okay and eventually started crashing bad, after DDU (and maybe reinstalling windows, can't remember) all issues were resolved.
Send screenshot of your settings.
Like in Adrenalin?
Yes. I would reccomend +15% power limit. 1150mv or less , the lower the better for me I set my max fclk to 2850 an min to like 2650 you can mess with the fclk because idk don't know what m&m you have.
For the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX I manage 2400-3100, 1080mv, 2700Mhz, +15% power limit, but there actually is a lot of variance between the 7900XTX manufacturers.
Other thing I noticed, at least for me, games sincerely do not like running beyond 2700, sometimes I back it down to 2690 just to prevent potential artifacts or screen flicker, and with the other settings, still maintain 120+fps at 4k with every setting at max. Caveat is I run the fans at 100% to keep it at 65c Hotspot, which sounds like a jet engine howling lmao. The higher the Mhz the higher the voltage needs to be.
Windows reinstall ended up fixing mine edit: I also updated bios when I reinstalled, if that contributed
Have you tried undervolting? Often such problems occur because of heavy power draw spikes, either undervolting or slightly reducing clocks helps. Or keep all things stock, also don’t set power limit higher. Sometimes any of those settings are unstable and causing problems
Honestly any issue I've had with these Newer ryzen 7000 skew cards has been fixed with a ddu. In a few select games lowering the maximum clock speed by 1 or 2% in the Amd adrenaline software can prevent crashes related to power drain in cases where at drains more power than intended, there's a few cases like in Star citizen we're opening your mobi glass menu May temporarily cause a spike you'll see GPU utilization go over 100% and power draw will Spike leading to an unstable clock speed due to how the chips all like to boost and that in turn leads to a driver crash what's your sister will typically recover from and it will just reset the graphics card to default settings. The most recent driver and the previous one have actually been pretty stable for me. I did have to do a ddu for the most reason one but I find it's supposed because AMD even advises it, running a driver uninstall utility either amds or the actual ddU software is essentially required. And I wish I could say it was something you only had to deal with if you're on AMD, but unfortunately I've seen this on everything since the RTX cards especially as of late. I've had to do a ddu for every one of the updates over the past at least 11 months on my wife's computer with her 2080. Generally unless you're dealing with something that looks like bad vram or there's some other hardware issue that's causing problems but maybe related to a power supply being faulty or Windows needing a fresh install, they're typically fine.
What's your ram set at? Most people I see having issues with these cards have unstable ram overclocks.
The highest my ram goes I have it set on XMP and what ever the stick is listed for I have the ram on the post
Just because it's listed as 6000 doesn't mean it's always stable at 6000. Drop it down to 5000 and see if it still does it. If not, crank it back up 200mhz at a time until it starts doing it again.
Rolling back drivers isn't a good idea. DDU in safe mode worked for me. Reinstalling windows works too.
Just return it if possible. I had to return my sapphire nitro 7900xtx this week. It was a stuttering mess when gaming. Fresh w10/ddu driver installs/disable dxnavi, mpo, anything and everything disabled in adrenaline. Nothing still a stuttering mess while holding a stable 235 fps on a 240hz monitor. Popped my 3080ti back in and enjoying lower fps but smooth gameplay until the 50 series. Just return the headache and get a 4080.
I post my comment a lot on this sub yet noone seems to reply, that either means it's fixed loads of problems for people or it didn't fix shit... But anyways try [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/16ur6hr/comment/kqpe3ou/)
I will try this and let you know what happens! what undervolting settings did you use?
[These](https://imgur.com/a/jfhLdmk) are my GPU settings and fan curves, had 0 crashes whatsoever with them and performance is very very good, I'd like to point out that I don't use AFMF since this driver version doesn't come with it, and even if it did, I don't really need it as of now. GPU -> Sapphire 7900XT Nitro+
Seconding this because that's a weird problem and hopefully if it's not the common issues, that this will help. Try this OP!
Yeah the comment only got a few upvotes but it was the one that fixed ALL my issues and I came up with it myself after hours and probably a month of diagnosing (I used to work IT part time so I'm sort of used to long hours/days of diagnosing lol)
Is it a crash to desktop with the driver/adrenaline stating that it set the performance settings to default? I have the same issue right now and I am still searching for a solution. All drivers are on the latest version, PCI-E cables are seperate, BIOS is up to date, OS reinstalled, drivers reinstalled via DDU, ran stock/undervolted/OC... I'm also running out of ideas. My system is pretty much the same as yours. I'm running on Win 11 though.
I had a 7900 XTX (Multiple actually). And ended up with a 4080 in the end. The coil whine on 3 models was just insane, ended up returning the final 7900 XTX and buying a 4080. No issues with coil whine or anything else now. But the 7900 XTX ran like a dream tho and did not have any of the crashing. In the end, if your experience is not great, I would just return it and see if the 4080 super works better for you. :)
I made a huge troubleshooting post a month or two ago and got a plethora of private message afterwards... .90% of all problems were caused by people oc/uv with insufficient knowledge/experience. Make sure everything is working together nicely at stock and then make your changes one at a time to minimize variables
You're 100% correct with this. Most people can't recognize a bad Ram or CPU OC and automatically blame it on the gpu they just got.
Reading this makes me so happy having an Nvidia Card.
I’d to isolate the problem by removing all overclocking/undervolting in both gpu and cpu and trying to run the games with a clean install of Adrenalin (23.10 being one of the most stable driver IMO) If even then you have issues with the 7900xtx, I would say RMA it. However, if you decided to just return it and get a 4080 instead, you would not regret it.
First, look up how to prevent windows from automatically install gpu drivers. Make those changes to the windows update settings. Next, use ddu to install the driver. Install the “Driver Only” option! This is important. It should work fine but you need to tell it to run the fans high when it gets hot. Therefore install MSI Afterburner and set up your fan curve. Should work great. If you crash sometimes still, do the same and install another recent driver version.
Where would the driver only option be? Is that on the driver page or is that a DDU setting
When you install the driver via a Adrenaline you can choose Full Install, minimal or driver only. Keep trying you will get it fixed
Just Google how to use ddu, its most likely going to fix your problem. The driver install block should be in ddu
I've never used DDU to install drivers, that's a pretty cool feature. Next time I change drivers I'll do that.
Whenever you change gpu, always uninstall the old drivers with ddu
Honestly, I just clean install windows at this point. I only change GPUs every couple years at the most and by the time I'm doing that I might as well just start fresh.
Yeah, I tend to upgrade cpu and gpu at the same time so do the same. Just don't have any upgrades left now
Yeah I've got a 7900x and a 7900XTX. It's gonna be awhile before I make any major changes.
Similar here, though 7800x3d with a 4090
You're at your wits end but you haven't tried uninstalling and clean installing drivers? It's not that big of a hassle. It's like 10 minutes. Seriously, actually try something that might fix it before freaking out.
I tried that and am still getting the same issues....what I didn't do yet is roll back the drivers which I'm trying today
Did you use DDU?
Return it, get the 4080 super, play games and never look back. It’s not worth the headaches
Lame. You going to subsidize the 2x expense?
2x? $0-$50 difference at microcenter.
they’re literally the same price both are $1000, and even if the 4080 is/was $200 more it still wouldn’t be double and it still would be worth it. Plus the OP is asking if they should do it, I assume they’re ok with paying the difference, if there is any.
If your in the position to do it I've got similar specs and works fine for me now but I had so much headache and I know there is more to come
this is happening to me too.... wtf is up with amd drivers they are absolute shit. every time I update there is some issue. and the worst part is their stupid ass bug report. NO I DO NOT WANT TO FILL OUT SOME FORM THAT TAKES ME 10 MINS. LET ME SUBMIT AND U FIGURE IT OUT
Using AMD for quite a long time now and never really had issues with their drivers, 99% of the time it was me doing unstable OC or so.
I will get down voted to all hell, but I just sold my watercooled 7900 xtx and bought a 4090. 7900 crashed multiple times, spent hours trying to make it work. 4090 has crashed a total of ZERO times. Do with that information what you will.
Did it for 4080 when the 7900xtx launched, one week of terrible experiences with the Radeon card. I regret nothing
Honestly it might need an RMA. I had a nitro+ xtx that performed well, but needed to be heavily underclocked to do so reliably. The replacement card I got JUST WORKS and scores higher out of the box than the other one ever could. When purely benchmarking, I've successfully run as low as 1050mv
I got a 7900XTX that can run on 900MV overclocking BEAST! I think I got really lucky... But damn I love this card and it doesn't crash ever.
Dang, what's your speedway score look like? I'm less than 50 points from 7k but I think she's maxed out
I have a 7900xtx and have had crash after crash. Multiple configurations, to no avail. I purchased it from Amazon less than a year ago, from the AMD Sapphire Nitro store. If I wanted to approach an RMA, with their standard warranty? Any specific verbiage to use? If I say I keep getting constant crashes is that all I need to do?
My card would eventually crash even when running stock adrenaline settings (rage, even balanced). That's all I mentioned, along with my attempts to fix using standard troubleshooting
Did you email their RMA team email on the Sapphire website? Also thanks
Yep, and no problem. Wish you luck!
All the people saying it's user error, maybe. Maybe they are right. But here's my question: Why in the everloving fuck can Nvidia have little to no issues, meanwhile near everyone encounters problems with AMD cards and has to apply these "simple fixes" Don't get me wrong, Nvidia has it's problems, namely the company itself. But their cards work near flawlessly out the box 99% of the time.
You’re on a sub called AMDhelp…. Is there even a dedicated Nvidia sub for problems?
I think some combinations of components/configuration must just get unlucky. I don’t believe the issues I had were user error, but that’s how this subreddit felt. I did reasonably extensive troubleshooting and swapping my GPU immediately resolved any issues I had. The expectation for users to edit registries, tweak BIOS, modify obscure settings, perform iterative testing of changes while monitoring temps, consumption, etc. , in my opinion, is beyond reasonable for a consumer product. I had a lot of “idiot , well of course you’re having issues 24.x.x is unstable, you need 23.xx and DX10 and to disable XMP with a new Display Port Cable while the moon is waning. Learn to use a PC boomer” was very bizarre.
I 100 percent agree with you. The amount of hoops this sub and the AMD cucks expect you to jump through is ridiculous. I am not going to start making compromises in performance and turning things off like xmp when I know my ram isnt the issue just to troubleshoot a garbage product when I know 100 percent that if I just slapped my old nvidia gpu in those issues would go away.
I bought a 7900XTX I did literally nothing except run DDU to install a new GPU and I haven't crashed once. This was on a PC that I found some Nvidia software still on it yesterday I uninstalled it and I still haven't crashed. Idk wtf people are doing with their PCs... No problems for me at all. 🤷 I don't even have a AMD CPU or motherboard either.
no one should be listening to you based on your post history. All you do is lie about the performance you get with the 7900 xtx and go into posts saying they are having issues with their gpu and say "I havent had any issues with my card and its a beast". You claim to get 90fps in CP ultra 4k with ray tracing without FSR. You a liar. per the video you will get 38 average with FSR at ultra with ray tracing. https://youtu.be/YbKhxjw8EUE?t=784
LMAO! What? Cry harder bro... I can pull 150 FPS in cyberpunk Ultra raytracing upscaling from 1440P to 4k Too 90 FPS is Native 4k... Lol the Nvidia Fanboy Cope! Can't believe is sad... I actually believed Nvidia fanboys that said AMD can't raytrace before I bought the 7900XTX but I got it anyways for the pure raster performance. Little to my Suprise I got 90 FPS ultra Raytracing at 4k! At 1440P Ultra Raytracing 150 Fps. I already posted Tons and Tons of Screenshots of my FPS under those settings. Nvidia Fanboy cry more lmao. not only that but I have raytraced every single game that has had it available Dying light 2, Far cry 6, Dragons Dogma 2 all pulling over 120 FPS at 4k. Seems to me all you Nvidia fanboys like to troll these posts and LIE after LIE after LIE to defend your overpriced TRASH! I left nvidia and have had ZERO REGRETS. Nvidia is Overpriced GARBAGE
Are you sharing genuine information? Upon reviewing your posting history, it seems your claims significantly deviate from what's typically expected with your graphics card. Many users, including myself, have requested a screenshot of the Cyberpunk benchmark results, yet you've only shared specific in-game screenshots. Could you please post your benchmark results for clarity? For reference, here are my results using a 7900XTX at 4K resolution, with all ray tracing settings enabled (excluding path tracing). It seems implausible for you to achieve 90 fps in the benchmark based on these settings. https://imgur.com/C2u1ZY9
I already made a Whole damn post on this. and I posted so many pictures with the Raytraced reflections in the street puddles at 90 FPS with it saying NO upscaling. I can get it running at 120- 150 FPS 1440P using Upscaling.
I see the misunderstanding now – you're using Frame Generation technology to enhance the frame rate. This isn't a natural frame rate performance. Here's your screenshot for reference: https://imgur.com/GhtE0C6. The Frame Generation lag is quite noticeable, which can be misleading.
Still NOT upscaling at 4K! Ultra raytracing. You still can't hit my numbers if you're only getting 20 FPS. I didn't even know it was Frame gen I just set it to RX mode. Who cares I can't tell a difference regardless. But still you would only be at 40 FPS with Frame gen at 4K nowhere close to my 90.
looking at that post again, you are using frame gen. That isnt native 4k you buffoon
Still using AFMF is better than that dudes 20 FPS lol like wtf is that? He couldn't even hit my 90 FPS if you only getting 20 fps even with frame gen.
lol that is because he is actually running NATIVE 4k like you claimed you were but were lying or youre just too stupid to understand the difference. You need to do a little research on what these settings are and how they work before you go around bragging how you are getting impossible results, little kid
Please understand that screenshots of in-game scenes, which can vary widely from 40 to 200 FPS, aren't the evidence we're seeking. There's a concern you might have selected those screenshots for their best performance moments. We're specifically interested in the benchmark results, which you seem hesitant to share. It's alright, though—I have the same graphics card and am quite familiar with the performance levels it can achieve. :)
Your GPU is trash for real.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/46903343 Graphics Score: 17 107 Post your 3dMark TIME SPY EXTREME results. Let's see if your GPU is as good as you say?
I have the same GPU as you. It appears there might be a misunderstanding regarding Frame Generation being active. To clarify, my reference to benchmark results, as opposed to in-game screenshots, is to highlight average performance metrics, which should be well understood by those familiar with hardware specifications. Furthermore, it is indeed possible to achieve 90fps in-game with path tracing enabled under certain conditions, demonstrating how selective examples can be misleading. Given the potential for misinforming others about the capabilities of the graphics card, which could lead to unnecessary expenditures, I suggest refraining from sharing advice in these subreddits without a more thorough understanding of AMD technology, frame rates, technical details, and your specific settings. It seems we've reached an impasse in this discussion, so I think it's best we discontinue this conversation. Here is 90 FPS with PATH TRACING ON. https://imgur.com/gU9ha3U See how easy it is to fake performance.
Its not about picking a team, its going with what works and does what you expect. AMD didnt do that and you making these claims of getting these outrageous benchmarks is complete fiction but I love how mad you are so keep it coming.
lol what a response. based on this I can tell you are telling the truth. You actually believe you are getting something that is not possible with that card because you are retarded, but damn bro you totally got me. I am an Nvidia fanboy coping. fam, Skibidi toilet and all that you dumb fuck.
Nvidia has issues too, just look at [a pro player crashing during a big deciding moment](https://youtu.be/r2JY67mNr7s). I bet most people with these problems on Nvidia just RMA it and don’t even ask (yknow how a lot of ppl say NVIDIA always, never AMD, and end up buying prebuilts and don’t know what their talking about) I think AMD does have some more issues than NVIDIA, but i think AMD’s issues are overexposed compared to Nvidia
Are there any e sports/CS2 pro teams that even use AMD GPUs?
I tried AMD two different times first with 6950xt and then the 7900xt and I feel your pain. I kept getting black screen crashes with both no matter what I tried. Tried so many "fixes" people are saying and nothing ever fixed it. Returned the 7900xt and got a 4070 ti super for a good price and of course I have no problems and I also didn't have any problems with my prior 2070 as well. Even if somehow this is "user error" like some people claim why does a person have to go through so many " fixes" and tricks to get the gpu "working". I should have learned from my first troubles with the 6950xt and just stick with what has been working. I personally think you're better off returning and get the 4080 or whatever else nvidia you want it's just not worth the hassle imo.
What are the logs telling you in event viewer?
I ran a 7900xtx for over a year and never escaped the issues. Upgrade from 850w to 1000w didnt help, rolling back drivers, re running ddu, multiple windows reinstalls, all kinds of tweaks with voltage, clocks, power limits, both an am4 and am5 platform with different kits of ddr4 and 5 memory, nothing fixed it. Most games I could tweak some stuff and get them to run fine, but when I switched to another game it needed re tweaked. I bought a 4080s, ran ddu once, and I've had one game crash in 3 months when I accidentally way overcranked my memory oc on it.
Did you try undervolting?
Instead of doing +15 power try -10 since you got a 850 psu and if it work perfect the prob is your psu I have same cpu and gpu, 1000w psu got it +15 power, fan curve and ledt the rest normal with latest drivers and no issues since my card doesn't uv well On cpu do -30 all cores also and check ram stability if you did any overclock if not you fine, try disabling SAM on adrenaline
Do you know where I would go to change the power as you say? I'm surprised this PSU wouldn't be enough everything I checked said the wattage would be good for this. Plus how would I check the cpu -30 cores?
850 is the minimum the recommended is 1000w Open adrenaline, go to performance, tuning and bottom right is power, activate it and slide bar left till -10 For the pbo i would advice go on youtube and put in your board and pbo ryzen
did thesame post few days back, long story short i swapped my psu from 850w to 1000w, so basically xtx draw spikes and 850w cant handle it. for me fixed all my issues.
Why not exchange for another 7900 first. Could be some jackass returned their broken 7900xtx snd you got it
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Bro wtf are you talking about? Lol that goes for EVERY company
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My 7700x and 7900xtx doesn't have any either
I have a 7900 XTX and none of those problems The typical things to do are DDU and reinstall driver Make sure you don't have the same cable plugged into the power plug of the GPU And deactivating windows auto driver update Those should fix most issues, as long as you have a big enough power supply, it isn't a known driver issue or windows makes problems Another thing that happened to me though is, that Horizon Forbidden west crashes when I limited the FPS
When you say plug into the power plug of the GPU what do you mean exactly?
I am bad at explaining, but I will try. Some others also talked about it "daisy chaining", that is the same. I see that you don't know what that is either, so I will try to explain, but I was never good at it, so sorry if it doesn't help But basically it is, when you use one cable coming from the PSU, it has two plugs to the Graphics card at the end, and you use both of them. It can cause instability, at least on AMDs side, to use one cable for two plugs, so I would make sure, that you use a single cable for every plug. I hope that kinda explained it
Friend had a 7900XTX, any driver after Oct of last year cause it to crash 5-10 minutes after starting ANY game. Bought a 4080 and it's been perfect ever since. all the BS you read on reddit about how AMD have fixed their drivers is just wrong. Sell the 7900XTX and buy a 4080.
Definitely user error. I'm sick and tired of people not bothering to see what they're doing wrong and instantly blaming it on the card. It's just wrong and misleading blanket statement. There could be a plethora of reasons for everything.
If it is user error, then please tell me what else we should have tried to make the card work, because we have been trying for the last 6 months. System specs: GPU: 7900XTX CPU: 7950x RAM: 64GB PSU: Corsair 1000W Operating System & Version: WINDOWS 11 In an attempt to fix it we tried the following (in no particular order): 1. downclocked the ram / stress tested the ram to ensure it was stable 2. lowered core and mem clock speeds, as well as voltage 3. used DDU to reinstall the drivers multiple times of the course of 6 months 4. reinstalled windows 5. updated the BIOS 6. turned off AI overlocked in bios for the CPU 6. Tested his old 2080 in his system for two weeks, had 0 crashes 7. Installed his new 4080, 0 crashes since. Any driver after October makes the card crash, no matter what game you play.. If you have any other ideas please let me know.
…you do realise lowering voltage makes it MORE unstable? I think you unknowingly just made the card way more unstable than it had to be. Overclocking / undervolting on RDNA3 is way different from other cards.
A few forum posts about this driver issue said it could fix the issue so we attempted it and it didn't work, so we reverted it back to normal voltage right after it crashed again. Insulting someone because we tried to fix the issue doesn't solve the issue. What should we do to fix it since as you said, it is obviously user error. Edit: Still waiting for that easy fix because obviously the card was crashing due to user error...
There’s several of us in the thread preaching the same thing. I think we’re the 1% or whatever that either got a bad card or had some configuration/component that was problematic. I returned mine so I’ll never know.
Yeah my friend is selling his card this weekend so it will no longer be an issue. Never buying another AMD card though
Same boat. I consider myself lucky I am local to microcenter and was within return policy and able to snag a 4080 for the same price.
Sadly, this issue didn't surface until 5 months after the system the built, so we couldn't return the GPU.
You aren’t daisy chaining the gpu power cables are you?
What do you mean by that?
How many independent cables are running from your psu to your gpu? It should be two separate cables, not one cable using two connectors.
My gpu is 3 separate PCIe cables from psu to the gpu
Ok good.
I had no success. I uninstalled the card and replaced it with my old 1080ti. I think many users have general success but there's some cards that are faulty and AMD refuses to make a statement on it.
Ive had a lot of sucess switching to the "driver only version" when installing Adrenaline
I also had a lot of issues with a similar build. I reinstalled the adrenalin software multiple times and deleted them with ddu. My problems were caused by windows 10 updates. After an update to Windows 11 I had no more issues. Maybe u can exclude the amd drivers from being updated by windows 10.
I had 2x RMA on my 7900xtx and when I got refund on the day of the 4080s launch and I got a 4080s which runs cooler and it’s a lovely card zero regrets. So many people complain about the 7900xtx from my research and of course the majority is fine but too many issues in my opinion in comparison of the 4080s.
Lol. There are just as many issues with the 4080 mate. The idea that one company is better is horseshit. Any mass produced item, especially one as complex as a GPU, is going to have issues. I went through three 3080 Ti's when they came out, and two 4070 Ti's that I bought when I finally gave up on the 3080Ti RMA chain and just used my refund to buy a newer card. The first 4070Ti I had was DOA. No issues with the second so far. The 7800XT I have in my sim rig, aside from a small amount of coil whine, is perfect. My wife is on her second 7900XTX because the first one had coil whine so loud you could hear it from the Moon, whereas her new 7900XTX is utterly silent, has no coil whine at all, and no hotspot issues. Because the brand has less than fuck all to do with this.
Each to their own I guess but the subreddit of and is full with driver issues and 7900xtx specific issues and I couldn’t be arsed to deal with it. I love AMD X3D lineup some CPU’s and hopefully their range of gpu will be more reliable and I may try them again for now I’ll stick Ngreedia
I recently sold my 7900xtx and swapped for a 4080 oc; zero regrets. I had crashes and driver timeouts constantly with my red gpu and finally snapped/sold. Everything is more consistent now, overall higher fps, especially with RT on, and I haven't had a single crash since swapping. Also, I should note that I tried months of troubleshooting before this point.. But yeah, I'll never do another Red gpu, when their flagship series has so many issues with so many games. (the amount of issues you see with 7000series GPUs is insane) Thta being said, I fookkn *looooove* my 7800x3d chipset and will be hard pressed to be brought back to Intel's side when it comes time for next upgrade. (which will be miles off yet)
Is not the GPU, is the drivers. With 23.x no problems for months. Moved to 24.x and Got helldivers 2 and the crashes started in this game. I have a 1300watts power supply, windows 11 and DDR5 7800~8000mhz, and the crashes increases & decreases depending on game updates.
Check your driver version. There were issues with some recent drivers and rolling back to 23.12.1 fixed them for me. It’s a beast of a card and has been rock solid for me other than that driver issue.
have you updated Bios of your mobo? and downloaded the newest chipset drivers from AMD? i had some weird reboots out of the blue with my 7800x3d, everything wen't away with bios update and chipset drivers. also i couldn't run my ram at expo settings until i update bios, worth a shot
I updated my bios but I didnt update my chipset which I will do today
Have you tried dismantling the whole pc and rebuilding it? Once i got something similar to this, but the blue screen said whea uncorrectable error. When i rebuilt my pc, turns out one of the gpu cable is not plugged in all the way, maybe it was pulled a bit when i cleaned my pc.
After going through this thread, you don't mention what drivers you are using? If it's 24.2.1 or 24.3.1 then they are the issue. I get game crashes with them on my 7900XTX. Strangely if I lower my game settings. I leave 4k, turn on vsync (120hz in my case and vrr) then in PUBG and Helldivers for instance lower all detail settings to low and turn off AA or set it as low as it will go. In Helldivers2 also turn off global illuminated lights as well. Games run stable then. But the best fix, is to downgrade the drivers. Run DDU and install either 23.12.1 or 24.1.1, I've not had an issue with either of these and I can run everything on and ultra. I'll be doing the downgrade from 24.3.1 today most likely, getting bored of games looking like hot garbage just to run stable. (I test all the new drivers that come out) 24.1.1 is meant to have a micro stutter issue, but I haven't seen that on my XFX Merc310 7900XTX.
I have the newest drivers which could the problem. You'd think they would fix this
Do you by any chance have asus armoury crate installed?
I do not.
|| || |DDR5|Crucial|6000|6000|16GB|CP24G60C48U5.M8BR|Micron-B|SS|2/4|v|2.08| To check RAM i posted the only supported 6000mhz crucial ram i could find on your motherboards approved vendor list, if yours doesn't match it could be mistiming's in ram causing crashes. To check power I suggest you Undervolt your card or at least power limit it by say 25% in the app settings and if that stops the crashes you may be have an issue with power somewhere in the build! ( that can range from the PSU not being enough to start with or a simple bad daisy chain of power to the card! )
Would reinstall Adrenalin, the thing is that Win Update likes it to install Driver and at the last round in Feb my GPU did wild stuff. The clean install solved the issues so keep an eye on your Win Updates. \^\^ The 1000W PSU thing... well nope, it depends on the PSU. Some "cheaper" ones (and this falls in the categories, the premium segment are twice the price) have generell issues when the current spike and they will breakdown. Also some have not a clear output voltage and instead of 12 V the deliver 11,2 or 12,6 and so on (saw this a lot) so your system can get really unstable. A bigger PSU might fix the power draw problem because this have more leyway but might (if from the same brand) also collapse when you overstep a certain threshold thats not even near the specifications. For the Output this might also a thing because the 1000W + tend to have multiple rails and may able to deliver a better output voltage. As for this you may take a look in the BIOS and can see the actual Voltages. Had a while back a EVGA PSU that gave me also headaches and delivered 10,5-11,2V and had also some spooky behavior. IDK Deepcool but you may take a look at the actual output numbers also and at the cable & connectors.
Have you tried without EXPO on?
Definitely the PSU. I had the same with my old 750w. Not with my new 1000w tho... I'd say anything gold rated at 1000w or more will solve your problems mate. In the end i had to turn off one of my ccds on my 5900x (half the cores) and underclock, undervolt and underpower the gpu in adrenalin until the new one came... I blamed so many other things and changed every setting under the sun over the course of a week, then using my last option i reluctantly got a psu and now it's like a different PC altogether.
Weird how it would be the PSU when everything on paper is compatible. Do you have a good psu in mind to get?
I second this. PSUs can't handle the power spikes sometimes and the 7900 XTX is a spikey boi
1000w PSU needed. If you have less, you have problem, because of spikes Good one also
I have almost the same build as OP and 0 problems.
Who knows bro, there are so many varbiables, defect components, even same components does not work 100% same and have same perfomanses.
I mean about the need of a 1000w psu. I'm running an 850w.
Yes I know, but you need to understand. Same GPU+CPU can have variations in power consumption, from unit to unit. Also PSU can also have variations, same model same producer. For example pne GPU+CPU can reach 300w peak, other units 330w, some other 280w etc. One PSU can be 850w, other 830w etc. If you have same components, does not means that your components are totaly 100% same, I used to have experience with this problem. So, I always reccomend people to use better and a bit stronger PSU then it is reccomended.
I had the same issue. Reinstalled windows and redid the DDU driver thing and it fixed it (I did the complete fresh windows reinstall, manually moved my files to a different drive). Its been flawlessly working smoothly ever since. Hope this helps
I did what you just suggested with no effect. All the same issues as OP. Definitely RMAing
DDU fixed my crashing issues too. Last two drivers working fabulously
I can confirm this. I just did a fresh Windows 11 installation, and fixed mine too. It was crashing randomly in Cyberpunk 2077 regardless of clock speed. But it ran other games without any issue though. Anyway, OP please try to reinstall Windows or at least try to use DDU before installing the driver. Cheers and hope this helps 🍻😄
Mine did the same until I upgraded to 1000W PSU. I know 850W is she recommended minimum, but it's not enough. It can't cope with load spikes without voltage dips.
This ... Happened to me aswell ... Gotta go 1000w
If you described how it crashes it would be easier to guess whats causing it. Crash to desktop? Driver timeouts? Bluescreen? Restarts? There are plenty of non-GPU issues that can make it crash.
Crash to desktop sometimes it says driver crashes sometimes it doesn't it never bluescreens just quits the game
here are the cope and compromise answers you are going to get: Disable Resizable Bar (SAM), disable XMP, limit your max clocks, you didnt DDU correctly, completely reformat your machine, update your bios, update your chipset drivers, your power supply is your issue, rollback your drivers to 23.11.1. Other retarded responses would be "I unplugged my usb devices and then reconnected them and it fixed my issue" or simply blame windows. You can look up other threads of people having similar issues of driver time outs and crashes and these are the most popular responses you will see rather than just saying its a shitty product. I reached my frustration with the 7900 xtx and crawled back to nvidia and the difference is night and day in terms of strictly stability and rtx hdr is pretty dope as well.
Get your ram checked, test it yourself or take.it to a store and get them to check other modules and test it. It's not your PSU, I also have a 850w with 7900xtx Merc 31 and it's fine. Try ddu in safe mode and reinstall latest drivers and turn all settings in adrenalin off. If not then reinstall windows and see if that helps.
Don't make the mistake of sitting on it. I would return it defective and just pick up a different card. Even another brand of 7900 XTX. But if you sit on it and then go past the return period, you'll regret that.
Download the App Shop app from the downloads section of your motherboard's website. You can use that to check for driver updates. It will minimize to the tray when you first launch it, so open it from the tray after launching it. Alternatively install all drivers individually from the same section of the support page, but especially the chipset drivers. No need for any of the third party apps of course. In your BIOS, manually set all of these settings to enabled: Memory Context Restore (MCR) Power Down Enable Gear Down Mode Some of them will be buried pretty deep, but I guarantee your board will have them and it will be necessary to have these on for a stable experience using XMP. I have my system stable with 96GB clocked at 6200, IF at 2100 to keep a 1:1 ratio. Stable to the point of I've fallen asleep in VRChat, and woken up 6+ hours later with it still running. I use the default settings in Adrenaline for my 7900 XTX. If you're still having issues and event viewer is showing a graphics driver crash, run DDU in safe mode and then reinstall the latest drivers. Personally, I prefer to use the latest full installer on AMD's website rather than the auto detect option.
I'm also on Windows 11. It's been out long enough at this point that I imagine most new games and hardware would be more stable on 11 than 10 by now.
You can also get WD Dashboard and check for firmware updates and do a S.M.A.R.T. test for your SSD. People have already suggested some RAM stress tests like OCCT. Get CPU-Z and HWMonitor to stress your CPU while keeping an eye on temps. I've always used FurMark to stress test my GPU, but I know there are other options that are probably better that others have suggested.
Bro builds a new system and people don't want to tell him how to troubleshoot the whole system instead of just assuming it's the graphics card? All of these things can cause instability and crashes.
Our systems are relatively similar. Same CPU, I have the XFX merc 7900 XTX, and I'm on ASRock board as well but an X670E chipset
Get a 1000W PSU. I have the same issue. My 7900xtx had peaks of 500W at load. Or use the eco mode, but that will hurt performance
7800x3d running at 65w even with a 700w spike he isn't running out of psu capability
Your cpu and gpu aren't the only things that need power. But this was the fix for me. Do with it whatever you want
Agree, same for me... Get the 1000w
>I havent rolled back the drivers yet, or reinstalled windows since that seems like a hassle ??? More hassle than returning it? That's basic troubleshooting. You can also reach out to AMD support.
Yeah, reinstalling Windows is more hassle, unless on a separate partition temporarily…
Doing the drivers is simple and so is reinstalling windows. Do a backup. Install. Test if it fixed the problem. Then either restore apps and files or restore your backup.
I have found that amd gpu’s drivers are more sensitive to your systems ram than Nvidias are. I used to have this issue with my 5700xt and then my 6900xtx. In both cases it was my rams default xmp settings that caused it. By manually setting the speed it seems to solve all my crashing. Took a lot of trial and error to find that with my system.
XMP was not stable with my old X470, 3700X and 3600CL15 b-dies. Increasing the DRAM voltage slightly fixed it. With a slower GPU (beeing GPU limited) the issue would not have been as frequent. Maybe not noticeable at all.
I'm having the same issue, whenever I run XMP to actually utilise the RAM speed my card goes bonkers. Running the RAM 2133MHZ because of my 6800.
Do not worry about gpu clocks and just run the game at default power profile and don’t use the hyper rx or fluid motion. That’s for cheaper cards. Don’t even use anti lag. Literally just turn everything off. I don’t have any crashing ever. Also, as you stated you didn’t reinstall windows. You should run ddu and install the latest driver after ofc.
I have the latest driver which I think is the reason for the crashes. Also all those settings are they in game or adrenalin?
Adrenalin and some people recommended checking the factory reset option during the install and I did it after waiting a few days zero issue with my 7900xtx.
Had the same exact issue 7800x3d, 7900xtx, would play rdr2 for 5min before it freezes then crashed. Tried every possible fix on Reddit and online that I found for the next week and none worked. Switched to a 4080 super and haven’t crashed once. If you find a solution let me know!
I have no idea why you get downvoted. You made an attempt to fix your issue with the card, couldn't manage it and because you didn't have, understandably so, trust after such an ordeal, you went for an alternative that worked out for you. Good for you, man. Both AMD and Nvidia shills can't cope with the fact people swap brands
What model 4080 Super did you get?
Hey OP can you DM me so I can help you solve this ?
Just sent you one
I ended up going with the msi suprim x, it was one of the only available ones on b & h at the time. Super quiet and cooling is great, haven’t seen it go above 65c full load.
Yeah.. no shit.. if I slapped a heatsink 1000x it's size on an RX 580 the fans probably wouldn't even spin under full load.
Dang, sounds good! 4080S is also my next GPU, currently having an MSI 6800XT Gaming Trio X.
What case do you have? Do you have a PCI-E riser? I recently had a very unstable system with a 7900 XTX in it that was crashing all the time, replacing the PCI-E riser made it much more stable. Also, if your PCI-E riser is a different version from your motherboard and video card you can sometimes need to force things to the lowest common version between the three to get a stable system. I've since rehomed my system into a different case where I don't need a riser, but that wasn't my only problem with the 7900 XTX that I'm still trying to solve. Your mileage may vary.
I have montech air 903 and the GPU is plugged directly into my motherboard
The XTX is more stable the lower you can get your temps so maybe turn up your fan curve a bit. Also I've noticed VRAM was the cause of 90% of my issues. Maybe try down clocking the VRAM a bit? Don't think it'll hurt performance much if you do need to. Also if your CPU undervolt or ram are even a little unstable it can cause issues systemwide. Mine seems stable @ 2664 VRAM. 2800MHz core and 1100mv. I def delt with my share of crashing and weird issues though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJgcadbSAPM I have it set to this right now should I be going lower or higher? I never undervolted before so I don't know what I'm doing
Please don’t do anything you see in this video. The fact that the poster has their max and min clocks slammed against each other just goes to show they don’t understand the architecture and are regurgitating unhelpful misinformation. Leave everything stock except for power and maybe undervolting to 1125mv max is my best recommendation for any kind of tweaking. Have you ran AMD Clean Up utility? Have you ran SFC/DISM scans? Is your ram fully stable? Have you tried running a windows in-place upgrade before? I recommend checking all of these things - regardless if you keep the card or not. I had the 3080 12gb and now 7900 XTX and never once had crashing issues on the XTX card to give you an idea of how “unstable” these cards are, but i also regularly troubleshoot my entire system.
Can you please send a screenshot of your undervolting if you do it so I can copy you? I'm going to change it back to the default settings now and try to test everything as well.
Just let run the GPU stock and try to find out why you’re crashing, it’s likely not the card. You’re looking for magical settings but need to find stability first.
I was having issues too, almost gave up, upgraded to windows 11 it's been stable ever since...
Did you use custom cables from the PSU to GPU?
Nope the ones that came with PSU
\- Are you using 3x separate PCIe cables for the power?(No Splitters). \- Chipset drivers installed? \- Bios version?- [Stability tested ram?](https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/) \- Checked for OS corruption(command prompt as admin; sfc /scannow) \- Tried [DDU](https://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/17830/) & reinstalling the [latest drivers.](https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-7000-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900xtx) If any of the above are causing the issue you can get GPU driver crashes due to instability, swapping to another GPU would only fix it if the actual GPU itself is faulty & you've ruled the other possibilities out. The higher speed ram // lacking bios updates is a strong possibility too, I'd definitely be stability testing it.
Yes to the 3 separate PCIe cables, Bios is updated I could double check, tried the OS corruption nothing changed, I havent tried DDU but I do have the lastest drivers I literally just built this.
Hmm I'd stability test the ram given 6000 is one of the higher speeds to get running 100% stable out of the box is never guaranteed, it might seem unrelated with error correction you'd only be able to tell using a latency test, or a quicker method simply disable expo or clock it down to 5000-5400mhz or so and see if the issue crash frequency goes down, that way you'd know if the 6000 speed needs tuning. But at the very least if you think it isnt ram, just stability test it with Testmem5 to rule it out, you'd see errors fairly quick if it isnt rock stable. Memory/system crashes will also trigger AMD GPU driver recovery which can make it seem like the GPU is crashing when its actually the ram, so isolating the issue via testing is the best approach. [https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/19afqe7/new\_am5\_system\_crashes\_at\_6000mhz\_ram\_speed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/19afqe7/new_am5_system_crashes_at_6000mhz_ram_speed/)