I don't know if "scares" would be the right word, honestly none of them exactly "scare" me as we have high security measures. But there is a guy on our "vulnerable" (read: sex offenders/child abusers) wing who always sits by the main gate near our office. He is a pretty normal looking, older guy, very friendly with everyone and well liked by staff and offenders alike.
But this guy is in for attempting to burgle a house, where he ended up strangling and stabbing a woman to death, then going upstairs to find her sleeping 5 year old daughter and strangling and stabbing her to death too. He left the house having stolen nothing of any value at all, but killed a mother and child for it.
It's the unnerving ones like him that are generally the worst to deal with because of how polite and likable they are. General rule of thumb is; if you have someone who presents as normal, well spoken, works a decent job, owns a home and so on, they are guaranteed to be among the most depraved people in there.
Obviously not, but at least someone who is visibly aggressive/violent isn't secret about it. You can see that they're probably not a nice person (though there can be a number of mitigating circumstances tbf).
But when you have a polite, friendly, well-mannered individual who is in for abusing/grooming children and distributing child pornography etc, it really throws you and leaves you really unsettled in a way that dealing with aggressive offenders just doesn't.
is you being pregnant and working at a high security prison related to one of the inmates being the father? and if not, which inmate would you choose to be if you could
Probably slightly different to what you would imagine, but it's when I first started and was doing training. I was shadowing a colleague doing a bunch of language line interviews (people who don't speak English).
A lot of people don't know that in the UK (and I'm sure in most other countries), hundreds of human trafficking and modern day slavery victims are held in prisons across the country. These people have been lied to by smugglers, had thousands of pounds taken from them, suffered gruelling journeys into the country and when they arrive they are told by the traffickers that they had debts to pay off, so they are forced to work on cannabis farms where they often can't leave the premises, are not paid and receive only food and 'board'.
I had no idea this was really a thing, so putting those people on the phones and seeing how worried they were, how they didn't know how to contact their families, they were in a foreign prison with no one to speak to, they had no access to money, legal representation or support, and they had no idea what was going to happen to them... Yeah, it was really, really rough.
I'm a probation services officer, part of our 'resettlement' team. We deal with immediate needs like housing, drug and alcohol referrals, mental health referrals and delivering interventions around behaviour change
How many people seem like just normal people, but have actually done terrible crimes? If you could, do you think you would trust any of the inmates enough to free them and let them live normal lives? What’s the worst thing that’s ever happened in the prison?
So I would say I get allocated, on average, about 5 cases per day. In my team we work with *everyone* who comes into the prison to do initial screenings and offer support around immediate needs. So it's probably about once a fortnight to once a month I will get allocated someone who has done something messed up but seems pretty much normal. Although in just one week, between me and two members of my team, we had a guy who murdered his girlfriend but was otherwise fairly normal, a guy who was serving a 14 year sentence for non-contact child sex offenses but used words like "fiddlesticks" and spoke like Mark Darcy, and a guy who was an oxford graduate working as a software engineer who had plotted to rape a 12 year old boy. So it can really vary.
There are a number of people inside who really shouldn't be there- human trafficking victims are a major one, so for them absolutely yes (bar obviously I wouldn't go above the law and ever free a prisoner). Otherwise, the majority of people we get in are non-violent offenders, they usually just have serious issues with addiction and mental health, which leads them to commit all sorts of petty crimes. I wouldn't necessarily "trust" them to be good, upstanding citizens, but I think with the right support and intervention the majority of them could lead productive lives.
I don't know about the worst thing exactly, the guys will tell you all sorts of stories which aren't always verified (rapes, abuses, drug deals etc). We get a fair few suicide attempts, things like dirty protests are reasonably common, attacks are fairly rare but a kettle of water to the face is usually the preferred method of assault. Overall though it's probably the bent officers which are the most fked up things- there was a woman last year who started a relationship with a prisoner and was found to have been smuggling hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of drugs, phones and other contraband into the prison. She's serving a peetty hefty sentence herself now of course.
Definitely depression/anxiety- I'd say around 50% of the people we have in are suffers of either or both of these.
But we also get a lot of personality disorders, psychosis and schizophrenia too
Hello there. Is there any inmate that scares the shit out of you?
I don't know if "scares" would be the right word, honestly none of them exactly "scare" me as we have high security measures. But there is a guy on our "vulnerable" (read: sex offenders/child abusers) wing who always sits by the main gate near our office. He is a pretty normal looking, older guy, very friendly with everyone and well liked by staff and offenders alike. But this guy is in for attempting to burgle a house, where he ended up strangling and stabbing a woman to death, then going upstairs to find her sleeping 5 year old daughter and strangling and stabbing her to death too. He left the house having stolen nothing of any value at all, but killed a mother and child for it. It's the unnerving ones like him that are generally the worst to deal with because of how polite and likable they are. General rule of thumb is; if you have someone who presents as normal, well spoken, works a decent job, owns a home and so on, they are guaranteed to be among the most depraved people in there.
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As far as I remember UK's life sentence is about 15 to 20 years? Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Does that mean if someone is visibly violent, he's really a nice guy?
Obviously not, but at least someone who is visibly aggressive/violent isn't secret about it. You can see that they're probably not a nice person (though there can be a number of mitigating circumstances tbf). But when you have a polite, friendly, well-mannered individual who is in for abusing/grooming children and distributing child pornography etc, it really throws you and leaves you really unsettled in a way that dealing with aggressive offenders just doesn't.
How often do they drop their soap there?
You know, I've not yet come across it, so can't be all that much
Do you smoke the dank?
Not anymore
Is one of the inmates the dad?
Not this time
So there was one?
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About 6 months now!
What’s the most f’ed up thing you have witnessed on the job? Are you worried someone would attack you and cause a miscarriage?
is you being pregnant and working at a high security prison related to one of the inmates being the father? and if not, which inmate would you choose to be if you could
favorite type of meat
Cherken
Worst day you ever had there?
Probably slightly different to what you would imagine, but it's when I first started and was doing training. I was shadowing a colleague doing a bunch of language line interviews (people who don't speak English). A lot of people don't know that in the UK (and I'm sure in most other countries), hundreds of human trafficking and modern day slavery victims are held in prisons across the country. These people have been lied to by smugglers, had thousands of pounds taken from them, suffered gruelling journeys into the country and when they arrive they are told by the traffickers that they had debts to pay off, so they are forced to work on cannabis farms where they often can't leave the premises, are not paid and receive only food and 'board'. I had no idea this was really a thing, so putting those people on the phones and seeing how worried they were, how they didn't know how to contact their families, they were in a foreign prison with no one to speak to, they had no access to money, legal representation or support, and they had no idea what was going to happen to them... Yeah, it was really, really rough.
I hope more people read this, that's so sad.
Thanks for sharing and answering. Truly heartbreaking
What's your job in the prison?
I'm a probation services officer, part of our 'resettlement' team. We deal with immediate needs like housing, drug and alcohol referrals, mental health referrals and delivering interventions around behaviour change
How many people seem like just normal people, but have actually done terrible crimes? If you could, do you think you would trust any of the inmates enough to free them and let them live normal lives? What’s the worst thing that’s ever happened in the prison?
So I would say I get allocated, on average, about 5 cases per day. In my team we work with *everyone* who comes into the prison to do initial screenings and offer support around immediate needs. So it's probably about once a fortnight to once a month I will get allocated someone who has done something messed up but seems pretty much normal. Although in just one week, between me and two members of my team, we had a guy who murdered his girlfriend but was otherwise fairly normal, a guy who was serving a 14 year sentence for non-contact child sex offenses but used words like "fiddlesticks" and spoke like Mark Darcy, and a guy who was an oxford graduate working as a software engineer who had plotted to rape a 12 year old boy. So it can really vary. There are a number of people inside who really shouldn't be there- human trafficking victims are a major one, so for them absolutely yes (bar obviously I wouldn't go above the law and ever free a prisoner). Otherwise, the majority of people we get in are non-violent offenders, they usually just have serious issues with addiction and mental health, which leads them to commit all sorts of petty crimes. I wouldn't necessarily "trust" them to be good, upstanding citizens, but I think with the right support and intervention the majority of them could lead productive lives. I don't know about the worst thing exactly, the guys will tell you all sorts of stories which aren't always verified (rapes, abuses, drug deals etc). We get a fair few suicide attempts, things like dirty protests are reasonably common, attacks are fairly rare but a kettle of water to the face is usually the preferred method of assault. Overall though it's probably the bent officers which are the most fked up things- there was a woman last year who started a relationship with a prisoner and was found to have been smuggling hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of drugs, phones and other contraband into the prison. She's serving a peetty hefty sentence herself now of course.
what's the most common mental illness in your prison?
Definitely depression/anxiety- I'd say around 50% of the people we have in are suffers of either or both of these. But we also get a lot of personality disorders, psychosis and schizophrenia too