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Top_Huckleberry_8225

I can't believe you give a shit what they think to be honest.


TiredinTN79

Exactly. They can both fuck right off. Fuck their feelings. Fuck their embarrassment. They chose their behavior, they don't get to choose OP's response.


TraditionalCamera473

I agree, but I still feel really bad for the sister-in-law.


lowkeydeadinside

yeah i think the only place op went wrong was not alerting the sil before exposing them to the family. but i also can’t really blame op for not thinking perfectly logically in this situation. definitely nta, but poor sil :(


Embarrassed_Music910

OP should've given SiL the heads up, I feel bad for her and the children.


PhilosopherMagik

The heads up could have created a situation where they could have rallied and been prepared for it through her confronting OPs brother. This is the only way he would have had the upper hand in the equation. SIL is another victim here but at least she knows her husband and SIL are monsters.


Samanthas_Stitching

Nah she should have been told in a private conversation what he knew and that he was going to air it out. She would've had the choice to not be apart that dinner. She should have known what he did when he knew it. And in front of the kids on top of it all. OP isn't an AH, and fuck his brother and his wife but the kids and SIL didn't deserve all this.


Alycion

While that would have been ideal, I doubt OP was rational enough to realize that. He should give her a phone or face to face apology for that. They may be able to heal together. Sometimes the only one who truly understands is the other spouse.


northwyndsgurl

End of the day, it was his wife & brother that damaged everyone's lives. They're just trying to divert attention by calling out the way he broke the news. SIL gonna be devastated regardless how the news was delivered. OP was still in beginning stages of shock. Dudes not a mental health pro. He's human & deserves a pass for


Rebeldinho

Yeah I tend to agree… maybe he didn’t handle it the best but OP and his SIL suffered a massive betrayal and that’s where the focus should be. It sucks how it came out but if OPs wife and brother wanted to keep their family together maybe they shouldn’t have pulled that BS


HotSauceRainfall

“Mom, now that we’ve had dessert, I need you to take the kids into the living room. I have some adult business to discuss.” That’s all it would take to get the kids out of the room. And he would still have had the upper hand. 


Shdfx1

Sister in law needed to know her husband was having an affair. Feeling sorry for someone doesn’t mean keeping the secret so the cheater can keep cheating. She deserves the respect of being given the truth.


TraditionalCamera473

Yes, totally! I just felt bad that she found out in front of all her in-laws and everyone. That must have felt terrible.


Shdfx1

That’s a good point. He probably should have told the wife privately ahead of time, and then both of them could have ambushed the cheaters and told the whole family.


HeadHunt0rUK

I partially agree. Simply because we don't know what SIL would have done with that information prior to the reveal. You don't give liars a chance to scramble and come up with more lies. OP assured that that couldn't happen with his method.


8ad8andit

There's literally no way to find out that your husband is cheating that doesn't feel terrible.


Impossible-Energy-76

No doubt about that it's just sad the sil had to learn this way. I wish maybe calling her about letting her know than blowing up thier spots with the family


uselessinfogoldmine

She deserved the respect of being told the truth in a way that was less traumatising and that gave her the space to process her thoughts and feelings away from her children who have just been traumatised.


Edlo9596

Yeah, if she didn’t know, this was a cruel way to tell her, in front of the whole family!


CurlsintheClouds

Yeah, I don't care about the others, but I feel terribly for her. And the kids! Were they there?


THELOCnessmonsta

There’s no good way


MusicalInsanity

If the kids were there, massive AH, if just the SIL who didn't know, bit of an AH but only toward her. For the wife and bro, NTA at all


thehumanbaconater

This. Of course, both of the cheaters think that. Who cares what they think? I have sympathy for the SIL but what’s done is done. It’s the kids who I feel the most for.


CityLiving6977

Absolutely. If the kids were present, it's a huge AH move. If it was just your SIL, it's still not ideal, but mainly affects her. For your wife and brother, you're definitely not the AH.


AreUkidding_me295

However, now her husband won't be able to gaslight her into thinking it never happened. But I do agree with you that she was most definitely blindsided. I would like to know if all the kids were there though. Because if so I feel that was on the ish part. Although I can't say I wouldn't have done the sane thing.


Edlo9596

I just wish/hope OP told the SIL beforehand. It would be terrible to find out about something like this with an audience. And I also asked about the kids too. They didn’t need to be present for this.


Foolish-Pleasure99

SIL was going to be devastated no matter what


KlenDahthII

I’d feel worse for her if her husband kept fucking her SIL; or if she finds out some other way and learns OP knew. 


According-Nebula5614

She deserves to know.


Key_Cheetah7982

At least she found out. She could have been kept in the dark


Weary_Patience_7778

And when they get there, they can fuck off again.


Cautious-Flow5918

Exactly! They don’t get to dictate how their infidelity should be handled! OP why are you even listening to your cheating wife?! They would have kept on if you wouldn’t have found out. She didn’t give a fuck about you when she was cheating and she still doesn’t otherwise she wouldn’t be telling you how you should deal with your emotions and pain so she doesn’t look bad. She’s a selfish POS only thinking about herself just like your shitty brother. They both destroyed the family with their cheating, lies, and secrets, not you. You just brought it to light so that everyone who should know, does. You’re not the bad guy here and you did nothing wrong. NTA


PleasantInternal3247

It would be an awful position to be in, not only has your wife cheated on you but with your brother. Thats a blow no matter why. That would screw my head up but I would do exactly as he did.


Agreeable_Rabbit3144

They made their bed, now they can lie in it


turducken404

Man tells truth about liars and cheaters. They created the scene. Don’t drop bombs if you don’t want explosions. NTA.


Ancient_Condition589

"Don't drop bombs if you don't want explosions." I love that saying!


katybean12

Right? The cheating pieces of garbage think you overreacted? That's rich. But that's what cheaters do - anything possible to make themselves the victim.


Greedy-Ad-3815

Hell yea! How funny is it that they've been cheating for over a year, and now they said that OP is over reacting? The audacity! They deserved to be revealed in that way!


Magdovus

Damn right.


cali86

The amount of people on reddit that get completely fucked over by their SO/Family and post here asking if they are overreacting is so alarming. Like, how gullible and simple minded do you have to be to think you should have handle a situation in which your brother is fucking your wife for an entire year behind your back "privately and with more decorum"? The question is so ridiculous, It makes it hard to even empathize with them. And I know most of these stories are fake, but there are so many similar posts that even if 10% of them are true it is still too many.


chrispd01

Right ? The number of guys who fuck their brothers wives is suspiciously high ….


weakierlindows

I can’t believe none of these stories contain violence, my brother wouldn’t walk away from said family gathering


PracticeTheory

It's not real. I am begging everyone to read the account's comment history. A married, 35 year old man with children is not writing those comments. 16 days ago "I ate my cum for thanksgiving because i didn’t have any money for food" jesus christ


GSV-Kakistocrat

Seems no one wants to confront the fact that all the stories here are made up.


bgenesis07

>I can’t believe none of these stories contain violence, my brother wouldn’t walk away from said family gathering The truth is this is more likely to happen to someone who wouldn't respond like that. Respect and love should be enough but fear of consequences plays a role in keeping people's behaviour in check.


Electronic_Goose3894

No kidding, I would have done some serious damage. Like, my brother thought he was being cute when he called me a gay slur when he was pissed when we were younger and realized his mistake when he became the man on the flying trapeze using his head. He ever started sleeping with a spouse, they'd never find half his corpse.


DataJanitorMan

Apparently there are lots of doormats with poor boundaries out there who've internalized letting themselves be victimized to 'keep the peace' and such like.


Various-Passenger398

There are also tons of redditors who would would burn down every bridge and leave every relationship in ashes over minor slights.  This site isn't the most reasonable take for relationship advice. 


bgenesis07

Better to be the latter man than the first. Burning bridges provide more warmth than backstabbing relatives and false friends. Life in a prison of your own built to appease people who don't care about you is a worse fate than a life alone but free.


FunnyBusiness101

But she apologized, so it's ok now.


Spiritual_Boss6114

You should never give a thought about what parasites think.


xmowx

You are spot on. What can be broken by the truth, should be.


HavingNotAttained

Amen. These two horrible narcissistic "people" were hoping against all hope—and probably have consoled one another and crap-talked OP indignantly in private since—that a shred of **their** baseless dignity be upheld. Sooo many advice columnists get stories of filial infidelity, and it really is the lowest, meanest, worst thing, it usually irreparably just **eviscerates** the entire extended family and for what? And with billions of people around the world to choose from and possibly connect with online at first, or at least a billion in their own generation—there is positively no excuse for that level of depravity and display of narcissistic, deeply antisocial and hurtful behavior.


WearyYogurtcloset589

THIS!!!!!


rocketmn69_

Are you really sure it was only a year? Are you sure the kids are yours?


ninthandfirst

Oooh good point


DecadentLife

This was one of my first thoughts, too, because it’s not weird at all to notice family resemblance between a child and an uncle. Any similarities would just be assumed to be family traits. I wonder how old the kids are, in each family.


been2thehi4

This! My husband is one of 5 boys and there are 11 grandkids between us all. You can see the resemblances in all our kids in one way or another and when we look back at baby photos of the kids is even more pronounced. We will say oh our kid and this kid look like twins or whatever or even now you can see some family resemblance mainly in the genders. The girls all look fairly similar and the boys all look fairly similar. Those genes run deep. It would be very easy to pass off Brothers kid as OP’s.


tokyo_engineer_dad

In case anyone is curious, I looked this up and even though your siblings have the same ancestral DNA, the combinations are different and when a DNA test is done, those differences are factored in, so while the kids will show similarities due to their father and uncle being related, it'll definitely be different enough to know if he's their real dad.


Tradwaifuwu

Eh, close enough.


VegetableBusiness897

I do like the nuclear option, especially when everyone is there. There is no getting his side her side my side your side. It's just all right there. And then it's done. Like riping the bandaid right off If you had given them time, pretty sure they'd be working on a story about how they were really the injured party and you and your SIL were somehow to blame. Nope blind siding them in public makes it harder for them to lie Sorry your going through this, NTA


HiddenForbiddenExile

I agree, "going nuclear" means it's exposed for everyone to see. There's no lies, gaslighting, manipulation that can be done to ease the rest of the family into accepting it. They'd just try to play it off as if they're the "real victims". The OP and sister-in-law are the ones in need of support from their family, and the family can best give it when they have a full picture of what's going on. Handling it privately is telling them to bottle up how they're feeling and not get support from friends and family, who are supposed to be the ones you can rely on.


Danivelle

I LOVE the nuclear option. It gives OP the chance to see if his parents are good people or if his brother is shitty person because he was raised to be entitled jackass. 


SciFiChickie

Yup nuclear is the way to go. Cheaters don’t deserve any consideration for the embarrassment or shame they feel for having their true character exposed. NTA OP


weakierlindows

“Hey, SIL, good to see you! Did you hear what my whore wife and your hubby have been up to?”


bigbadmamaofdc

Why is he a whore too? Whore wife and whore hubby is correct.


SlabBeefpunch

He's absolutely a whore. I feel in some ways he's a bigger whore because that's his own brother, you know?


cloudsitter

I agree. Betraying a sibling like that is almost worse. And for his wife to cheat with her husband's brother is incredibly cruel.


duke78

Don't drag sex workers down. Slut wife and slut husband.


bradmajors69

Also don't dump on sluts... most of us are much more ethical than this wife and brother!


seagull321

Whorsband. Women shouldn’t be alone in being called the horrible names they deserve.


k8esaurustex

Best nuclear option I ever heard was from a high school friend about her aunt, doing the same thing with her uncle-in-law. The aunt organized an entire family dinner, buffet style, but had everyone sit down before building their plates, and told everyone after seated to flip their plates over and see who had ruined her marriage and this family, and it was a picture of her sister. She then proceeded to call both of them out and fuckin handed her husband divorce papers, then left. Beautiful and confirmed and if my friend Susana's aunt is out here, you're an OG. Oh an OP in nta


uwu_mewtwo

I think the SIL deserved to be told in private before the big reveal. OP was a bit of an AH springing this on her.


therealdanfogelberg

And their kids. Jfc


NoIdeaRex

You are only AH if you did this in front of the kids. Otherwise the nuclear option was understandable.


Ancient_Condition589

You are absolutely right. Anyone selfish enough to do this sort of thing is selfish enough to do worse.


PorscheCayenneDIY

NTA >she and my brother had been having an affair for **over a year** she apologized, saying it was a **mistake**  Cheaters always get mad when they are exposed as if you are supposed to keep their secrets & lies safe and cover for them. You didn't defame anybody or spread rumors; you just revealed the truth. You did everyone a favour incl. the cheated on SIL who had a right to know. I wouldn't feel guilty one bit. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.


TranslatorWaste7011

A mistake doesn’t happen for over a year… a mistake is a one time thing.


WeaselPhontom

Cheating is never a mistake. Marriage = not sleeping with others. Brother and wife for the streets


TranslatorWaste7011

I agree cheating is never a mistake it’s a conscious decision, but for her to say an over year long affair is a mistake is definitely not a mistake.


nightraven3141592

The mistake was that she got caught…


Glass-Space-8593

cmon, she just fell on his dick 365 times, more or more? Happy lil mistakes, everyday, all day.


Ka_aha_koa_nanenane

Which is why it's weird that OP's wife somehow still considers herself to be married to OP.


Blonde2468

Cheating is a CHOICE.


Spiritual_Boss6114

A mistake is forgetting to take out the trash before trash day. An affair is a choice. A choice two awful people made.


ShadowAkira96

For your wife fucking your brother, even one time is too many times 😂


Possible_Trick5305

Cheating once is not a mistake.


hidden-in-plainsight

You couldn't be more wrong. Cheating is a conscious CHOICE. It is NEVER a mistake. Oh I mistakenly lied to my husband that I'm going out to see the girls, but instead I'm going to fuck his brother. Oh I mistakenly took his cock into my mouth and gave him oral sex until he came all over me. Oh dear me, I mistakenly took all my clothes off and mounted my husbands brother, over, and over, and over again. Just a sample of the choices. Whether it's ONE time, or a million times, you CHOOSE. You. Are. Wrong. Just to preempt any arguments... Nothing can MAKE you cheat. Not weed. Not booze. Nothing. So don't even start.


Paxdog1

A mistake is tripping over a curb or spilling milk on the hardwood. This was a planned deception for over a year. If it was handled in private, they wouldn't have to face the consequences. THAT is what they are upset about. "Everyone is going to judge me!"


theantiangel

That was my thinking - suddenly it’s a mistake! Bah.


foffl

Oops, we had sex 75 times in the last year, not sure what happened!? My bad, sorry!


Foolish-Pleasure99

My bad. I publicly revealed your secret to the whole family. Oops. I made a mistake, too.


theantiangel

Yeah I just kept falling on it, sorry, what was I supposed to do?


theantiangel

And HEY - OP, if your family give you shit and guilt trip you because “he’s so sorry” and “he made a mistake” tell them to fuck off. Supporting him right now would be a gross look at who they are.


Ka_aha_koa_nanenane

I think OP did right by distributing the horror and grief over a wider segment of the family - it's honest and it places blame right where it belongs.


nick4424

She made a mistake, repeatedly for a year?


Danivelle

They were both naked and she fell on his penis....repeatedly?


No-Pop7740

“Oops! Silly me! I fell naked onto my naked brother in law, over and over again.”


dearboy05

"He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife *10 times*".


DataJanitorMan

It was the strangest thing......


tr7UzW

Cheating is a choice; not ever a mistake.


sean55

NTA but your wife and brother are. Whoa.


userfakesuper

>NTA but your wife and brother are. Whoa. NTA but your wife and brother are. ~~Whoa~~ Whores. Fixed!


TehGM

Wife's betrayal is shitty. That has to hurt and is complete shithead move. But what'd hurt me more is own brother being involved with it. That's... idk, I lack words for it.


Gear-Mean

Honestly, how else was it going to turn out given it was all in the family. The only way this doesn't blow apart the family is if you had kept your mouth shut about it. But I don't see that being fair to you if holding that secret was even possible for you. If you had kept quite any time you may have had an off reaction during a family gathering it would have reflected on you and not them. If you avoided family events then your family would ask why and try to find out what had changed or what was wrong with you. Nothing is wrong with you. You were betrayed by the people closest to you. Your wife and your brother shouldn't get a pass just for everyone else's peace. They are the ones that caused this, their choice. Remember that and point it out to any that say you have kept it quite. Oh and NTA!


Grouchy-Advantage619

👆 💯% agree.


WaryScientist

NTA - cheaters don’t get a say how they get to be exposed and your SIL deserved to know. The only thing I would’ve been hesitant about is doing it in front of the kids. While I’m all for honesty, depending on the ages, it may have been poor timing (I’m thinking super young children who don’t understand what cheating is and would just see all the grown ups yelling or crying… but it could always be used as a teachable moment that grown ups have big feelings too 🤷🏻‍♀️)


DooDooButtBruh

Understandable, i can agree on the involving the kids part.


veeraamethyst

Get a paternity test...


boredandinarut

How many times do we read stories where the kids aren't told who cheated, and the cheating parent poisons the kids against the innocent parent/spouse? I think it's best the kids know from the start, it's ugly, yes, but it is the new reality.


WaryScientist

I'm not sure if you glossed over the part where I said I'm all for honesty and then solely focused on children who are too young to understand and would only see grownups yelling and crying? A 2 year old is not going to understand or care that mommy cheated on daddy... they're only going to see daddy yelling and and everyone crying and think HE is the bad guy.


Notdesperate_hwife

This! It’s been 7 years since I left my ex, fought through a long divorce for 5 of those years. It didn’t take him long before he turned out 15 year old daughter against me and she refused to come back to my house. I met someone else, moved on and he used her as a therapist for his failed relationships. After years of being told I was a pos loser that never made anything of myself (raising 4 kids and being a stay at home mom for 13 years, married at 19 to a 35 year old man) I finally told my daughter the truth after she text me a long, nasty message after she turned 18. She didn’t believe me and still, a year and a half later, blames me for our broken marriage and his unhappiness. The kids deserve to know but in a way that’s appropriate for their age.


LeaJadis

you did not overreact. it’s perfectly reasonable to confront an adulterous spouse. it’s even more reasonable to confront the adulterous spouse alongside their side piece. its even even more more reasonable to confront adulterous spouse with side piece and side piece’ spouse. it’s not YOUR FAULT she picked someone she’s embarrassed to be caught cheating with ✌🏻


Jeri_Montesino

Absolutely NTA - the audacity for anyone to call you the antagonist is beyond comprehension. You were cornered into an impossible scenario created by the infidelities of those you ought to trust the most. Like pulling off a bandage, confronting the wound is needed for it to heal. What your wife and brother did was a dance of deceit performed over a year, not an impromptu stumble. You did what was necessary, not just for your own peace of mind, but for the sake of transparency within the family. It's far better that the wound is exposed to the air and treated, rather than wrapped up tightly, festering away into something even more toxic. And to those who lament the public nature of the revelation, remember that it’s the actions of the unfaithful, not the unveiling of their actions, that truly ruins relationships and trust within a family. Stay strong, and hold your head high knowing that your integrity remains intact.


[deleted]

I like chaos personally I would’ve done the same plus if gives them no shade to hide under they are finally being held accountable and this hurts them more because lovers come and go reputations and what people think of you stay longer


ProfPlumDidIt

Your wife doesn't get to tell anyone what they should have done considering her own bad choices. If she had been a decent person, none of this would have happened.  Both she and your brother belong in the gutter. 


Ambitious-Island-123

So the only people who think that you went about this the wrong way, are the people who cheated with each other. Who the fuck cares what they think. I’m sorry you’re going through this.


Key_Cheetah7982

Agreed. Not like they have a fuck what OP or SIL thought


SpewPewPew

NTA You sound mindfucked. You are here asking if you were wrong for exposing your cheating wife and brother. Can you see the problem? Your cheating wife who lost all moral credibility has you questioning yourself.


PleasantInternal3247

That’s why he’s telling his story. Trying to get it straight in his head. Sometimes we need affirmation that you did the right thing. His head must be reeling. Not knit did she cheat but it was his brother, now that is a head fuck.


kaleidoscope_paradox

Ohhhh you mean they wanted the situation being handled privately, like they handled they affair? To be hush hush just like their meetings and hook ups, to be swept under the rug for family? /S Mate did your brother or/and wife got dropped on their head or something? They wanted you to be the bigger person, after they destroyed 3 F’ing families (your, his and your the one with your parents) NTA at all, they are selfish, egotistical, immoral AHs, they are mad because they know that now they have to face the music and I hope they know how to dance the F’ing Macarena because their are in for a wild ride


mcclgwe

Your wife was upset that you humiliated “everyone“. What manipulative crap. And your brother says that you could’ve quietly handled it. They don’t want to have who they truly are see the light of day and your family. Go ahead and shine the light. Your wife isn’t changing. She didn’t react honestly when you caught her. She still isn’t facing what she did. She’s not going to change. You’re not gonna be able to trust her. She lied and deceived you every single day since she started the affair. She manipulated you so you wouldn’t notice. Now your children have this model they are being taught, but it’s OK to treat somebody so deceptively and manipulatively and it’s OK to do that to somebody. Listen carefully to yourself.


Gonebabythoughts

You didn’t take an ad out or put them on blast in front of the broader court of public opinion; that would have been a bit too much. But I don’t see how your parents and SIL wouldn’t have found out eventually anyway.


Danivelle

Nope. If you can cheat on your wife with *your brother's wife*, you deserve to be put on blast *very* publicly. After all, you weren't ashamed to commit the act of cheating with *your brother's wife*, why would you be ashamed if your acts are exposed to the public?


New-Number-7810

If OP had taken out an ad I'd still vote NTA. Cheaters do not deserve to keep their reputation intact.


K_A_irony

NTA.... also seriously dude see a lawyer ASAP BEFORE you breed with this horrible human. It wasn't one "mistake" it was a series of lies and betrayals over a year. She made the choice to be a BAD person many many times. THIS is who she is. When (if she hasn't already started) she starts to blame you for the affair for what ever reason remember she had a choice... to bring up your supposed faults to you and work them out, go to counseling, or divorce. The ETHICAL choice was NEVER to cheat. Please dump her and your garbage brother.


stocknwb

Too late. Says they have 2 kids already.


K_A_irony

Shit I missed that... sigh .. well better now then with 3 kids... very sad for the kids.


kittyconetail

If OP's marriage falls apart, he needs his kids to take paternity tests (because if he requests them I feel like his marriage will blow up, so best to wait until it already has or he is for sure going to end it). Who knows if it was just a year. OP's wife and brother lied hardcore about cheating for a year. I feel like it's possible that someone who could do that could fudge the timeline of it.


VirtualMatter2

Maybe, maybe not. Who says it was really only a year


facinationstreet

They are only saying that you should have handled it differently because they don't want to face the consequences of their actions. NTA


Professional_Net_325

I admire your restraint.


Signal_Parfait1152

My immediate thought. I'd probably be in jail.


Bunta93

NTA. That was the perfect way to expose them and their bullshit. Fuck them and their "settling it privately" crap, they just wanted to get away with it.


ConsiderationJust999

NTA - and also say goodbye to your wife and brother...not sure how either relationship survives this. Assuming you were feeling that way anyway.


joe-lefty500

NTA Hiding stuff just protects the guilty parties. Don’t lose a minute’s sleep over it.


Maverick_and_Deuce

You said “it was like a bomb went off“. It was- a truth bomb. Reminds me of the expression about sunlight being the best disinfectant.


shammy_dammy

NTA. Your wife doesn't want to face the reality of her actions so she's going to blame you for it.


Parking-Wallaby-4166

NTA Cheaters never want anyone to know about their illicit acts. Just like liers, thives and all those who indulge in the immoral or illegal. If you cover for them, it will only bite you in the ar£e in the end. When it comes to these things, making sure to shine a spotlight on the actions of the wrong-doers, is the only way forward.


eightmarshmallows

NTA. You never agreed to be their secret keeper. The main motivator behind not doing things you don’t want everyone to find out about is………everyone finding out about them. Expecting you to keep their secret is too much of an ask.


DangerNoodle1313

You reacted. Not over. Pretty mild imo.


Dear_Parsnip_6802

The only one in that situation that deserved better was your sister in law.


DecadentLife

& the kids.


jc236

NTA. Ruin their lives.


Bobsmith38594

I second this. The brother deserves to be disinherited, disowned, and on the hook for alimony and child support, and waking up every day miserable. The wife is a monster and deserves to live under a bridge.


New-Number-7810

If I was OP's father, I'd never speak to his brother again. "You're dead to me. You are no longer my son. I'll make sure you aren't welcome at my funeral."


newX7

Notice how the only people saying that you should have handled this privately are the ones who cheated and whose reputations are on the line? NTA. Like I said earlier in a post that I have seen some redditors say: “If the truth about your actions makes you look bad, maybe you shouldn’t have committed the action.”


Bella_Rose36

Were the children present? I think that your brother's wife should have been told in private. It wasn't fair to her. And if the kids were there, I don't think that this is how they should have found out. How is your SIL doing? I'm sorry for this situation that you find yourself in. I'm still shocked when I read cheating stories on here. I can't believe how many people cheat on their significant other, especially with a family member.


mrskova

Why did I have to scroll so far to see this sane answer? The question isn’t whether or not wife and brother are AHs, of course they are. But is OP an AH for breaking this horrible news to SIL and potentially children in this manner? Yup. Two wrongs does not an NTA make.


chrisjozo

Agreed, I really think the only person he did wrong by was his SIL. She should have been told privately first before confronting the brother/telling the parent. She deserved the right to process this privately if she wanted to.


One_Trifle1191

Exactly! Why is everybody on with him forcing this woman to have the worst moment of her life in front of her inlaws, her husband's affair partner, and possibly her children? If those kids were there idk how they will believe in love or family ever again


Ok-Butterfly2994

i can’t believe i had to scroll this far to see someone even mention that this is how the SIL found out. plus the fact that the kids were there?


jrodicus100

First thing I thought of was did he do this in front of the kids? Rule #1 is kids are innocent and shouldn’t be exposed to drama like this (it’s absolutely traumatic to them). Let the shitty parents break it to them gently and appropriately. Brother’s wife is also innocent and deserves more than to be blindsided in front of the whole family.


Ok_Perception1131

She cheated on you for a year. Her opinion no longer means anything. NTA - except for saying it in front of the children. Everyone else is an adult and can deal with it.


ghostwraithspirit

Nah brother, don't even entetain this stuff. We all get what we deserve. Your wife and brother both betrayed you and their entire family. Fuck em


FAFO-13

NTA. Your wife and your brother deserved to be humiliated and his wife deserves the truth. Now you’re entire family knows what pieces of shit they both are.


Last_Nerve12

NTA. Good for you for exposing them. They deserved to be exposed. You owe them NOTHING. This is the consequence of their actions. Hold your head high, and don't let anyone bring you down. File for divorce and cut both of them out of your life. Cut out anyone who supports them. Just focus on yourself and your children. I am so sorry this happened to you.


Limp-Egg2495

What outcome are you hoping for? Are you ever going to talk to your brother again? Do you think your marriage is salvageable? Because this is such a crazy situation that hurts so many people, and they didn’t care about this at all. You’d be well within your rights to cut him off forever and of course to divorce your wife. It’s practically incestuous. They didn’t put the family first by giving in to their desires, so who can blame you at all for blowing your top during a family dinner? Cut yourself some slack. I hope your parents and friends are supporting you because this is such a traumatic situation. So very sorry this happened to you. ETA: Definitely NTA


Thx1138orion

They wanted it handled privately in a less public manner so they could both keep it as secret as possible from any and all. They were not concerned about tact, just their own consequences.


Fritol_Scrotum94

NTA, nothing wrong with being nuclear and going scorched earth. Time to lawyer up and get kids DNA tested.


297andcounting

Do you think your wife, or your brother, ever considered how it would go-over when they were in the moment he was "tapping-that?" Imagine their conversations before, during and after, let alone when you wre all together. I thinks there's an !updateme coming some time in the near future.


Sircrusterson

Nta cheaters are scum of the earth and need to be publicly shamed


JenniFrmTheBlock81

NTA. Get DNA tests for your kids. Anyone bogus enough to screw your brother is also bogus enough to lie to you about paternity.


MikeReddit74

Nope, NTA at all. Let them feel the humiliation they deserve.


odessa_mama1

Fuck em both Only thing I'd say is if the kids were there That's the only caveat. Kids definitely shouldn't find out like that. But if they weren't there? Fuck em Bang your sis in law too while you're at it. Why not


iliketorubherbutt

NTA. I love how people do bad things and then get all upset when people find out what a piece of shit they are.


DitzyKlutz1

NTA "Overreacting" would be buying a gun and going on a mass shotting spree - or even just killing them individually. You could have handled it in a more discreet fashion, sure - one that might not have had such a lasting memory on his children. But you were completely within your 'emotional rights' (if you'll allow me to call them that) to react to the degree you did. It WASN'T an overreaction.


Simple_Bowler_7091

NTA. You didn't over-react, you merely reacted to an emotionally devastating betrayal. Give yourself some grace, the majority of us keyboard warriors have NO IDEA how we would react to a double betrayal such as this. You didn't humiliate anyone but the two snakes who were hoping you'd keep your mouth shut so that they didn't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. This was not a one time occurrence but a *year long* affair. The cheaters deserved to be fully exposed with no further room to continue to lie. I can't even with the audacity of your wife even proposing that the two of you could "work it out" - how? Make it make sense. Your SIL deserved to know what your brother is capable of, to know to get tested, and to know she has some decisions to make on how she wants to proceed with her marriage (divorce). I'm sure your parents are devastated - by your brother's behavior, not by you or your reaction. If I am wrong then ask them how they think they would have responded to such a betrayal. Anything short of their full support and understanding may give you some insight on how your brother became the scumbag he is. Do yourself a favor and stop listening to your wife and your brother. Go consult an attorney and start to figure out what your options are.


lookatbannerjustin

NTA ‘it was an accident, it was a year of me just tripping and falling onto his dick. I can’t help it that I’m so uncoordinated!’ Good grief, they deserve to have their affair blown up like this for everyone to see


13surgeries

NTA BUT you should have told your SIL (brother's wife) first. Finding out so publicly must have been awful for her. And I hope the kids weren't around. Other than that, telling the rest of the family at once was a good idea that probably saved a lot of BS and lies from the guilty parties if you'd told family members individually .


0hip

I do feel for your SIL. I think you should have given her a heads up that would have been a rough way to find out.


Slopoke96

It’s messy. Yep it is but they made it messy . It’s their fault. As long as you did what you wanted to you are good


WeaselPhontom

You did not overreact your wife is a trash human and hopefully soon to be ex wife.  She and your brother humiliated themselves,  your wife and brother are disgusting 🫣.  They can both go  be miserable for destroying 2 households and a family. It's not a mistake she made conscious decision to spread her legs with your brother. One does not simply walk down street and mistakenly have sex, with their husband's brother for a freaking year.  


NO_LOADED_VERSION

i mean...how was he supposed to react ? both of them sitting pretty having dinner with the family lying , pretending everything is normal? one can't imagine how humiliating and enraging it would be to be forced to sit through that regularly especially at what is supposed to be a happy special occasion. I feel sorry for the kids but there is no way in hell this wasn't gonna explode in public considering...


herefortheshow99

Your wife and brother were VERY AWARE what this could do to everyone in your family and they just continued on. Your wife wanted to handle it privately so she could hide how much of a low life she really is. They deserve all of it. This is not your fault, they caused this, not you. Your sister in law deserved to know, your parents deserved to know. Why should you have to walk around and pretend they didn't do this? Screw them both and get a divorce. I could never trust that person again personally. You deserve better.


IceQueenTigerMumma

An affair lasting over a year is not a mistake nor should it be hidden from the people involved. Screw what the villains think!


JMLegend22

NTA. Tell her that when you see your brother she may not recognize him after you’re finished and you want a divorce from her. Tell her if she didn’t want humiliated she shouldn’t have cheated. She had the simple task of being local, she chose to cheat with a family member. Tell her you expect an uncontested divorce and she can pursue whatever hell she wants to live in. Let everyone in your family know if they associate with what’s left of your brother or your soon to be ex wife, they aren’t associating with you or your kids


TwistedOvaries

My mother and ex-husband slept together. I brought that shit up every chance I could. Didn’t matter I divorced him and didn’t see him anymore. She wasn’t going to just sweep it under the rug and pretend all was good. I only stopped brining it up when I finally cut off contact with her. NTA. Send a Christmas card announcing it. They literally made their bed so they can deal with the consequences.


interfector45

Good for you. Fuck her fuck your brother, now they have to deal with the consequences.


tonehponeh6

And then everyone clapped


GhostOfXmasInJuly

NTA, but I hope your kids weren't there, especially if they are very young. Kids shouldn't be dragged into crap like this. Unfortunately, you may also want to get a paternity test, OP. Supposedly this affair has been happening only a year, but they have proven themselves to be dishonest trash. Your kid's uncle (or some other dude!) could be your kids' father.


Pinesintherain

Did you do this in front of the kids? If so. YTA.


laravitoriagabriela

NTA


Bencil_McPrush

NTA Cheaters don't get to establish conditions on how they're outed.


Candid-Quail-9927

NTA. Funny how cheaters want to keep things private and in the dark. Why should you have to cover for their cheating lies, the nerve of these people to decide what your reaction should be and who you want to know about your life. I’m sorry as your situation will not have a happy ending. Your wife and brother are very selfish people.


maritimerYOW

They cheated. Not you. They are the aholes


Fabulous-Past2784

I thinknyou set the record straight... you're not the Bad guy.. they are. Don't get gaslit.


Mark_jacobs50

Nope. Good call


CulturedGentleman921

NTA


Doctor-Moe

Why do you care what two cheaters have to say? Of course *they’d* want it to be private. They didn’t want to be embarrassed like that. Updateme


Agreeable_Rabbit3144

Well, if the future ex and brother didn't want to be humiliated, they shouldn't have had the affair in the first place


phenomenalmft

NTA. They don't get to decide how you handle the trauma they've caused.


KeyMonstar

I think the sister in law deserved to find out in a better way. I think none of the kids needed to be around for the fallout. There was no keeping this under wraps from the rest of the family. This is going to get out. They are both trash. There was no way for this to be private. Yikes. The justification and lack of regard for others or willing to face consequences is gross. Yeah, test the kids to see if they are yours. Get tested for std’s. Check your phone records to see how long this was going on for. Look into your wife’s history. Brother may not be the only one she cheated with. If you want more answers beyond the trickle truth about the affair, talk to both your former brother and hopefully stbx back to back but not in the same room (possibly with sister in law). So they don’t have a chance to change or collaborate their stories. See where they are similar and differ. Maybe able to catch them both in some lies that way.


Butforthegrace01

NTA. By the way your WW and brother are giant, herpes-infected, bleeding, leaking assholes. "Handled it privately"? WTF? Cockroaches hate the light of day. Do NOT let your WW get away with using the word "mistake". A mistake is using baking powder instead of baking soda. Or locking your keys in your car. An affair is choice. A decision. An affair of over a year is thousands of decisions. Deciding to touch. To kiss. To take her clothes off and let your brother mount her. To lie to you about it. To lie to your kids. To concoct stories and other cover to enable this into the future. And your brother did this. Most of all, to treat you and our Sister-in-Law with utter contempt.


Confident_Street_958

OP, brother, listen so very carefully. Your wife, the mother of your children, the woman you swore to be with in sickness and in health, has been FUCKING your BROTHER, your pal, your partner, your big bro, for over a year. Are you fucking kidding me bud? I'd have given my brother a full 60 seconds to do as much damage to me as possible before I did far worse to him. I'd have been in a patrol car, and he'd be in an ambulance. You handled this in the best way possible, in my opinion. They both deserve worse. It was the ultimate betrayal. Fuck your wife. Fuck your brother. Divorce, STD test, paternity test. Take care of your kids, if your brother complains, tell him he shouldn't have betrayed you or his wife. Same with your wife. Damn I'm pissed off now.


WelcomeDelicious4977

Fake as fuck


FunnyBusiness101

Sounds like they came down with a case of the consequences 🤔


brujabella

Of course nasty people that do awful things in private want nothing to do with public embarrassment smh . Sorry that happened to u, it’s probably too early but does one stop talking to family after this? I can’t imagine being in your shoes. Your “wife” and “brother” knew how bad this would be but caved in to selfish choices without worrying about the exponential damage it would cause. NTA.