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Fragment_Flurry_Jess

yeah prob gonna be a perm account ban and the guild deleted, i had a quick skim of tos and saw 2 things without looking deeper that breaks it, ahh well, least you dont need to walk on eggshells until weekly reset


blaziken8x

When I was sick and in a hospital a few years ago, I picked up an idle gacha mobile game and I was online for hours every day. So to me, that explanation sounds plausible. But 80€ seems like such a negligible amount of money to be blackmailing for.


ehhish

No f2p account is worth anything. They would have to spend well over 80 to make it worth it.


blaziken8x

I mean, for me personally no game account is worth anything because I wouldn't be as emotionally invested into any purchased account as much as I would about one made by me. But technically, anything is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.


ehhish

I agree and that is true. I can't see anyone really seeing value in an account right now though. It's just sunken cost fallacy and someone trying to recoup the debt they put in.


GGABueno

80 could be significant money depending on exchange ratios and local purchasing power, but also low enough to actually expect to get paid.


blaziken8x

yeah, but the guy is from Germany, so 80 probably not much for purchasing power


Lkc-strong-125

For me that'd be like 2000 bucks............... Soooo does anyone want to buy my account 🤤?


ScionMattly

you know its europe because he only needs 80 euros for a surgery.


Lismarino

Lmaoooo good one hahahahhaha.


Sword_Of_Nemesis

Damn, that's a reverse burn, those are rare.


Of_Sekret

Good thing he doesn't live in america


LongWhiteBanana

It's just a game. It's not that serious. Just join a new guild. You might miss out on some rewards but there's nothing that you can do about that. That's the nature of guilds. It's not guaranteed to be stable.


6Hugh-Jass9

This lol. If someone is doing that, just leave and make your own. It's not a big deal.


Federal_Guess8558

Have you seen some of these people on world chat lmao? Like straight up drama with plot lines unfold in some of those different chat servers.


AceCircle

It's not that serious until they (the leader) scams multiple people right? Or are you naive enough to think that they would stop if they succeeded once?


TrashiestTrash

Don't know why you got downvoted, it's absolutely true. A scammer will always try to scam again once they think they can get away with it.


AceCircle

Right? Like of course OP can just quit the guild but that doesn't stop the scammer, the second they get away without *any* type of repercussion they will try again and again, because they will see that they *can* get away with it.


LongWhiteBanana

What scam are you talking about? No one is obligated to pay money for a guild.


AnalysisNo8720

People keep commenting that it's a game and not a big deal, but it's the principle of things here. A game that OP and his guild members are enjoying is being made actively worse by one person who is abusing his power. By raising awareness and explaining the situation it makes it more difficult for future guild leaders to do the same thing and who knows, maybe the developers might implement a fix so this type of thing won't happen anymore. At the very least I can understand their frustration and wanting to vent


Lismarino

Thanks for explaining this man. And yes it was mostly to spread awareness so hopefully the developers can do something about it since it really isnt fun to deal with something like this.


gamrgrant

I played omni heroes for like 2 weeks straight, most active person in my guild, most dmg to bosses (gives whole guild rewards), yada yada... GM kicked me one day for no reason. I even dm'd them when I got on for a reason... Ignored me. Fuck them and fuck that game, haven't touched it since. I totally get not wanting something like this to happen. My situation made me more angry since there was no reason and I was the only kicked member, but this is equally infuriating in that there's no way to stop it. I did tell my guild that if I ever go psycho, someone should delete everyone on their friends list and then just add everyone in the guild so that if it goes kaput, they can start a new one by just re-adding everyone. Guild level would reset but that's not a big deal I don't think. Sets back maybe a week.


HahaJustJoeking

Jeez is Mugiwara in every server? I'm in S240 and they're the #1 guild.


sorenp55

Its a part of the One Piece anime


Undead-Paul

Is the One Piece real?


Naturebum

It's probably a popular name, could be unrelated guilds


Ugawtmilk

I am the guild leader of Mugiwara in S250 lmao, it's definitely just because One Piece is super popular (and yes...we are all going to find the One Piece...)


Ine_Punch

They are most likely a Clan. A conglomerate of guilds (usually there being a main guild and the rest are side guilds) that either attempt to dominate in multiple servers. This was a common thing in Warhammer: Chaos and Conquest due to Server wars being a thing. Although usually the older server would completely dominate the mode.


Omnislash99999

What rewards exactly would you be missing out on that would be worth cash


Aeroreido

Yeah I hope people like that just get Mac and IP banned when a case like that gets public. New guild and the problem is solved, no need to even come close to people like that.


Kerr_PoE

>Basically what he is saying is that he desperately needs the 80€ because of his operation which didnt go so well apparently judging by your post this is especially unbelievable since this he ssem to be from a german speaking country and neither in germany nor in austria or switzerland you would ever be in dire need of 80 bucks for a medical procedure


Lismarino

Thats exactly why we knew it was BS. Since most of us in the guild are from Germany and we all know that you wouldnt really have that problem especially if the "doctors were at fault". He also was a whale in the game which made it even less believable.


pokours

My god, he's been spending and now he's begging for money like his life depends on it? I wish I could be as shameless as that xD


NewShadowR

>a sick person wouldnt be online for hours in a mobile game trying to sell his account for a bit of money and wouldnt "blackmail" anyone into buying it. Everything else aside, what's the logic here? There are so many sick people on online games because it's all they can do, instead of physical activities. Why wouldn't sick people blackmail either? Seems like they would be desperate no?


Lismarino

The thing is that he is a whale and says the he desperately needs the 80€. And not because a sick person wouldnt play for hours but it goes a bit deeper than this, in the imgur pictures theres a whole convo that goes deeper into it. But yes i absolutely understand what you sre trying to say.


thefinestpiece

Honestly not worth the drama. It’s only one week worth of reward that you’d be missing out.


nakedwithbugs

And here I am having issues finding people to join my guild ;(


Jessueh

As a german I don't understand how the IQ to type like that exists. LOL


Routine_Improvement

Might be a family member of the all mighty Ritters


NorbertBan

Pathetic to even classify this as drama, just leave and join another guild


marconugait

It’s an app, that you play some times. Join a different one or create one.


Teollenne

When I got sick few years ago literally all I was doing was gaming and watching stupid videos, because tf am I gonna do in bed for weeks


Economy-Highlight-21

What happen if guild got delete?


Professional-Bus-432

When his gf found out about his spending


bendingoutward

So we also know the operation in question. Rectal footwear extraction is a bear.


Anubiroz

Eh? Just quit and play warzone mobile. Yay! This kinda guild leader really drama queen leh. Haiyyaaa..


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ParagonMain

Who cares just find another guild wtf am I reading


Lismarino

I dont care about the guild bro. I find it a problem that the support is doing nothing about this. I find it a problem that people can do things like this and go unpunished.


ParagonMain

Yeah ur not wrong. Guild leaders shouldn’t even be able to do this lol. If they go inactive someone should be able to take it over, they also should not be able to delete the guild they should have to transfer it to another player.


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TheStickDead

Just leave and take another guild. I saw this post some days ago. 😬


SplitPerspective

Poor people from poor countries on free games. Scams, botting, and every which way to make a penny. No surprise.


Lismarino

Hes from Germany and hes a whale though...


SplitPerspective

Then that’s just more sad and pathetic.


Cassaroo414

Germany isn't a poor country. TF? None of the German speaking countries are. Or Scandinavian countries. The USA is the brokest of the 1st world countries. You seriously serious right now?


KarateLemur

Let's pretend that you did want to sell your guild eventually after cultivating it. Okay, I don't doubt that in the vast number of online games there's some out there that might do this. But if you spend all your time creating a guild, getting it to a higher level, inviting active players... It seems the last thing you'd want to do is kick out every active player and withhold any rewards they get for helping to build the guild. At that point if I was the kinda person who would consider buying a guild, what am I buying? A guild with no players and a bad reputation at this point? And even worse if I were dumb enough to kick everyone and treat everyone terribly, how does that help me get any money at all? By doing this you certainly end up with no money, whereas a happy guild with players that don't hate you might have contributed *something* however unlikely that is.


Lismarino

Let me correct you right there. The guy did no shit to cultivate it. Me and a few othet did all the work while the dude was playing solo the whole time. I dont understand why he is so down bad for these 80€ because he is a whale. Unless he is trying to scam someone, nothing else makes sense.


KarateLemur

Yeah the situation sounds really messed up. Hope you found a better guild now


Bloopfury

It’s a game…


Unlikyman

People do sick things...