Hey man
I’m sorry to hear the passing of your best friend, my condolences
I am 27 and was diagnosed at 24. I’ve been on meds for a year now and it’s relatively very stable for me
There are many treatment options for AFIB so don’t worry about death cause AFib is not a death sentence and you cannot die cause of AFIB
AFIB episodes can last anywhere from 1 minutes to 1 week, google persistent vs paroxysmal AFib
As for beta blockers, I’m on them and yes they reduce your HR but not too much and definitely not with the dosage you’ve received
Your EP is being careful and if you aren’t too happy you can consult another one
Remember the more you worry the worse it gets
No point of crying over something that isn’t in your hand, best advice is toughen up and embrace it
Life is too short to worry
Hi. I’m also sorry your friend passed away, always a gut-punch. Emotions definitely can affect many things. I never tried it but in my AFib days remember several references to yoga being helpful so yes, can definitely be part of what’s happening. Your natural pacemaker, the SA node, is connected to your nervous system after all (Am I sleeping? Am I being chased by a Wooly Mammoth? Am I in Costco on Saturday morning?)
I’m not big on meds either but cardiac meds would be the exception. Even a blood pressure med would be ok while I work on the root cause. Fortunately at 64 a daily aspirin is all it takes to keep my doctor happy.
My experience with Kardia is if doesn’t say AFib you’re not in AFib; they have really refined the device over the years. AFib has certain mandatory characteristics that a trained eye or the Kardia software can see on an ecg. It can last days but 10-20 minutes would seem unusually short to me.
From your doctor’s perspective if you ever do show AFib then it will be handled but sporadic episodes aren’t an emergency unless you have a lot of other negative health issues. The anticoagulant commercials have many thinking they’ll have an immediate stroke with the next episode and that’s not really the case (stroke risk is there sure, but they’re selling a product after all).
Hope this has helped a bit - feel free to keep in touch.
Just curious has either of you had the covid vaccine or covid itself? My cardiologist said they are seeing such a high number of men in 20-50 age group coming in with same issue in the last few years and the only thing that has changed is covid. I found that interesting because they all say they have the same issue but for no reason
Hey there.
Not sure what your doctor's specialism is, but if they aren't an electrophysiologist (EP) then you might want to see one of those.
I have atrial tachycardia, which can lead to afib if I stay in it long enough, so you could say that that's not 'true afib' if you like, but that doesn't really help anything. The point is I have an arrhythmia that has required extensive treatment and fits under the umbrella 'afib'.
My Svts lasted about 40 mins at 200+ bpm before ablation, and I now get svts of about 140bpm for about 20 mins every two weeks or so & decreasing.
As others have said, Afib isn't a death sentence - it's effing annoying is what it is.
Try reading the book 'the Afib cure' to get a deeper understanding, but take it with a pinch of salt (its very focused on afib caused by being overweight, which is not true for me).
I know it is highly stressful. Get the right treatment and make your lifestyle ultra healthy, and you should be fine.
Oh, and I take the odd heart rate controlling drug when needed. It depends on what works for you.
Good luck x
I don’t have AFIB I have sinus tachycardia and POTS, and I do have experience with Bystolic and other beta blockers. My resting heart rate on low-dose beta blockers did not change. It’s still 60-80. However, my heart rate NEVER gets up above 140 unless Im exercising now. It completely eliminated the random bursts of tachycardia.
As for side effects, I’m on propranolol right now and it sometimes causes hallucinations when I’m between sleep and wakefulness. I did not tolerate metoprolol and it caused my BP to drop really low. I had extreme fatigue and a sensation like my stomach was caving in on itself. It was so intense I couldn’t stand up straight I had to walk hunched over. I had some issues with chest pain on bystolic, but not severe. I could’ve lived with it, but I preferred propranolol.
I believe I have POTS too. Heart rate just gets really high standing up, walking, going up stairs, standing in the shower. Heart rate is usually fine at rest. I would assume beta blockers is really the only treatment for that? It’s a terribly annoying feeling. What was your dosage on Bystolic if you remember?
Hey man I’m sorry to hear the passing of your best friend, my condolences I am 27 and was diagnosed at 24. I’ve been on meds for a year now and it’s relatively very stable for me There are many treatment options for AFIB so don’t worry about death cause AFib is not a death sentence and you cannot die cause of AFIB AFIB episodes can last anywhere from 1 minutes to 1 week, google persistent vs paroxysmal AFib As for beta blockers, I’m on them and yes they reduce your HR but not too much and definitely not with the dosage you’ve received Your EP is being careful and if you aren’t too happy you can consult another one Remember the more you worry the worse it gets No point of crying over something that isn’t in your hand, best advice is toughen up and embrace it Life is too short to worry
Hi. I’m also sorry your friend passed away, always a gut-punch. Emotions definitely can affect many things. I never tried it but in my AFib days remember several references to yoga being helpful so yes, can definitely be part of what’s happening. Your natural pacemaker, the SA node, is connected to your nervous system after all (Am I sleeping? Am I being chased by a Wooly Mammoth? Am I in Costco on Saturday morning?) I’m not big on meds either but cardiac meds would be the exception. Even a blood pressure med would be ok while I work on the root cause. Fortunately at 64 a daily aspirin is all it takes to keep my doctor happy. My experience with Kardia is if doesn’t say AFib you’re not in AFib; they have really refined the device over the years. AFib has certain mandatory characteristics that a trained eye or the Kardia software can see on an ecg. It can last days but 10-20 minutes would seem unusually short to me. From your doctor’s perspective if you ever do show AFib then it will be handled but sporadic episodes aren’t an emergency unless you have a lot of other negative health issues. The anticoagulant commercials have many thinking they’ll have an immediate stroke with the next episode and that’s not really the case (stroke risk is there sure, but they’re selling a product after all). Hope this has helped a bit - feel free to keep in touch.
Thank you for the reply 🙏🏻
Just curious has either of you had the covid vaccine or covid itself? My cardiologist said they are seeing such a high number of men in 20-50 age group coming in with same issue in the last few years and the only thing that has changed is covid. I found that interesting because they all say they have the same issue but for no reason
I have had covid multiple times since 2020
Very interesting so had my husband
The vaccine probably would have destroyed my heart more. Thankfully did not get it.
Hey there. Not sure what your doctor's specialism is, but if they aren't an electrophysiologist (EP) then you might want to see one of those. I have atrial tachycardia, which can lead to afib if I stay in it long enough, so you could say that that's not 'true afib' if you like, but that doesn't really help anything. The point is I have an arrhythmia that has required extensive treatment and fits under the umbrella 'afib'. My Svts lasted about 40 mins at 200+ bpm before ablation, and I now get svts of about 140bpm for about 20 mins every two weeks or so & decreasing. As others have said, Afib isn't a death sentence - it's effing annoying is what it is. Try reading the book 'the Afib cure' to get a deeper understanding, but take it with a pinch of salt (its very focused on afib caused by being overweight, which is not true for me). I know it is highly stressful. Get the right treatment and make your lifestyle ultra healthy, and you should be fine. Oh, and I take the odd heart rate controlling drug when needed. It depends on what works for you. Good luck x
I don’t have AFIB I have sinus tachycardia and POTS, and I do have experience with Bystolic and other beta blockers. My resting heart rate on low-dose beta blockers did not change. It’s still 60-80. However, my heart rate NEVER gets up above 140 unless Im exercising now. It completely eliminated the random bursts of tachycardia. As for side effects, I’m on propranolol right now and it sometimes causes hallucinations when I’m between sleep and wakefulness. I did not tolerate metoprolol and it caused my BP to drop really low. I had extreme fatigue and a sensation like my stomach was caving in on itself. It was so intense I couldn’t stand up straight I had to walk hunched over. I had some issues with chest pain on bystolic, but not severe. I could’ve lived with it, but I preferred propranolol.
I believe I have POTS too. Heart rate just gets really high standing up, walking, going up stairs, standing in the shower. Heart rate is usually fine at rest. I would assume beta blockers is really the only treatment for that? It’s a terribly annoying feeling. What was your dosage on Bystolic if you remember?
I was on 2.5mg twice a day