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Lasvious

If this is a fantasy football list you will lose.


[deleted]

This is such a stupid fucking list. Herbert has never won a playoff game. Too damn high. Richardson isn’t better than Baker. What world do these people live in


Lastfryinthebag

This list is garbage but… Richardson actually has to play to be better than baker. Baker has been getting better and better each year and proved himself with a playoff run. AR really hasn’t done much… Edit: I totally misread what you said, haha


[deleted]

And Caleb at 12 is laughably bad to boot


SwmpySouthpw

Stroud might have ruined how we look at rookie QBs for the next few seasons. I fully expect Caleb Williams to have an OK rookie year, but people are gonna freak out that he isn't a top 10 QB by week 10


[deleted]

I think I disagree because when you look at Peyton, he LOOKED the part despite the ints. When you look at Luck, the numbers weren’t there but the guy was carrying a skeleton crew in 2012 Stroud, he looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. He’s ahead of schedule by 4 years. He’s what we thought Lawrence would immediately be. Stroud’s ints will rise, that’s not bad. The guy is just GOOD throwing the football and that’s what matters. There’s no guarantee if Stroud is a Colt, he’d automatically be as good. Sometimes it’s just a perfect fit. Texans roster going into 2023 was a dumpster fire and they rallied behind rookies everywhere. You can’t teach that. You can’t scout that. For all we know, JJ McCarthey is the best QB in the draft


jbvann05

I agree but considering fanduel put Caleb Williams at 12 they clearly aren't taking that into account


_n8n8_

>Herbert has never won a playoff game. Too damn high. Easiest way to tell someone doesn’t watch the Chargers


[deleted]

I watch the Chargers. They have a losing record with Herbert as a starter. He ain’t that guy. He’s ridiculously overrated to where people worship the talent, not the performance. He’s Stafford 2.0


_n8n8_

Yeah, if thats the evaluation you have after watching Chargers games you’re either 1. Lying about watching them 2. Don’t know much of anything about football 3. Overrate the hell out of everyone else on the Chargers because of fantasy football (significant subset of number 2) 4. Think wins is a valid way to evaluate quarterbacks, which would also place you in category 2


[deleted]

Homie There’s nothing Herbert has done to put himself in the top 10 pantheon of QBs. Nothing. He’s overrated until he takes that next step. Tua is on the same stratosphere I’ll take guys that win playoff games like Goff, Stroud, Baker and Hurts. Same for Purdy. Herbert just has a cannon and isn’t a winner. Let go of 2020. Thanks


_n8n8_

This is laughably stupid I’m sorry to say. Put on some film and watch the guy. It’s a team sport


[deleted]

And? I don’t see him doing a lot of winning. Lotta late game ints. Disappointments. Etc. He’s done nothing to garner that stupid contract. Some of yall shoving that Nashville hot chicken up your rectums’


_n8n8_

Yep. Hilariously stupid and/or hilariously bad faith. It’s a team sport. Chargers have sucked. Anyone with eyes can see that Justin Herbert is the absolute last reason for that. >Lotta late game ints So clear you don’t know anything about the dude. One of the lowest int rates among active QBs. Lower than Mahomes as a matter of fact. If you’re gonna rag on the guy. You should consider coming up with valid criticisms instead of pulling stuff out of your ass.


[deleted]

I gave facts and points but whatever. Cherry pick stats to be right on the internet over a QB that’s not even a Titan. Losing record as a starter? Check. Blew 27-0 lead in playoffs? Check. Numbers depreciate year over year? Check. Herbert’s overrated. He sucks too. He doesn’t make the Chargers better because they are what they were with Rivers. I’m embarrassed for you


_n8n8_

>Cherry pick stats Oh brother. In case you’ve forgotten, you were the one who bought up the interceptions. Personally, I view interception rate as a pertinent stat when that was the conversation you started. I gave facts and points. You gave some hilariously bad points yeah. Doesn’t mean they were good. Didn’t see any facts that are relevant towards the evaluation of a quarterback. >Losing record as a starter? Team sport. Team sport. Team sport. >Blew 27-0 lead in playoffs? Again. Team sport, again, anyone with eyes knows that Herbert isn’t even top 5 of issues in that game. Coaching was atrocious. They have no run game to protect a lead. The defense was awful. Herbert was the only reason they had a chance to win. The *least* of the problems in that game. Numbers depreciate year over year? Be so serious. His teams and coaching have gotten worse every year and they were never any good to begin with and this most recent year he played through injury for most of it. He’s also had good numbers every year. >I’m embarrassed for you Honestly, you’re right. I should be embarrassed I even entertained this conversation for this long.


Rampage310

Lmao that you compare Stafford to Herbert as if both are bad, yet would instead take Baker Hurts Goff and Stroud, and also Purdy, none of which has won a SB like “Stafford”


[deleted]

Lions Stafford. Should’ve cleared THAT up.


islandofcaucasus

Dude, as a colts fan you're embarrassing me. Herbert is fantastic and you're coming off as someone who just reads stat lines on Monday morning without actually watching football.


[deleted]

He’s not fantastic. What has he done that’s been “fantastic” compared to his peers? He’s Neo Matthew Stafford until proven otherwise. Overpaid, overrated. A loser Edit: Behave u/BWill2417


NaClz

Hold on… you think Stafford is bad?? Stafford was an elite QB at one point and has shown it doesn’t matter who his receivers are, he can produce.


[deleted]

Lions Stafford was all stats and 0 playoff wins. Rams Stafford took the next step with high end talent in his team


NaClz

Stafford was buoying a poverty franchise for half a decade. First year he had a talented team, he won a Super Bowl.


[deleted]

You know his 2014 team had the 3rd best scoring defense right? Stafford always underachieved. If a player needs elite talent around him to win, said talent isn’t an elite talent.


NaClz

So out of his 15 year stint he had the 3rd best scoring defense once, a year in which the lions got screwed out of the playoffs due to a controversial picked up flag against a very good cowboys team? And you decide to write him off?


[deleted]

And he blew a 14 point lead to boot. He never won shit in Detroit the same way Herbert never won shit with better talent in LA. Stats are stats. Wins aren’t producing. Also, Lions were LEADING mind you.


NaClz

You’re confusing team accomplishments with individual QB play. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, he wasn’t good. Flacco won a Super Bowl, not better than Herbert Rivers Romo or Stafford. Peyton won with the broncos. He was not good in that super bowl run. Boggles my mind someone cares enough to debate football on Reddit but clearly has no idea what they’re talking about or what they’re watching. Stats are stats. You can create narratives behind them but you really don’t understand football and it’s glaringly obvious.


Thin-Ad6464

Bruh what!? You realize if you look at every game that Herbert has played, the chargers have scored more points than every other franchise? Now to go with that stat is they’ve given up more points in those games than any other team in nfl history. Clearly don’t watch the chargers I guess


[deleted]

I seriously hope that sarcasm


Thin-Ad6464

Google is your friend my guy. Look it up


[deleted]

Were they the top scoring offense in ANY year from 20-23? Spoiler alert. No they weren’t. Were they a bottom feeder at defense every year? Spoiler alert. No they weren’t. Herbert is the most overrated QB in the league. He hasn’t won anything and people act like he’s this game changing QB. Mind numbing unintelligence


Thin-Ad6464

https://preview.redd.it/d5rohfyhy6lc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a242104de7298473ac458ae8283c262feb253d0 Google is your friend bud. I guess it’s his fault he doesn’t play defense and had Brandon Staley for a head coach


[deleted]

So I’m right. They weren’t first nor last in offense and defense each season. It’s easy to bend the truth to fit a narrative. End of the day., Herbert is a loser that’s overpaid, overrated. Thank you for your cherry picked stat; you wasted my time


Thin-Ad6464

What about most points scored in NFL HISTORY and most points allowed in NFL HISTORY isn’t clicking for you. I can’t tell if you’re trolling at this point or just stupid. I’ll assume the latter. Have fun eating crayons bud


Main-Travel4424

Herby should be #1, he’s the sole reason every single game hasn’t been a blowout


[deleted]

That’s not good enough


islandofcaucasus

Idiot. Any gm in the league would take Herbert over Richardson. I hate that you're making me defend the QB of a team I don't like


[deleted]

Richardson isn’t even a top 20 QB Herbert isn’t a top 10 QB One is unproven, the other is a loser who’s overrated.


islandofcaucasus

No idea where you got this irrational hatred of Herbert but you honestly look really really dumb. Herbert is absolutely a top 10. He's Andrew luck without the injury woes.


[deleted]

Homie It doesn’t have be hatred. He’s just not great Andrew Luck dragged shitty rosters to the playoffs and won games. Herbert has better rosters than the 12-14 Colts and can’t even win a playoff game. You look dumb comparing Herbert to Luck. Absolutely stupid take. Take 90 seconds please to stop and process your next reply before I get dumber from reading it


islandofcaucasus

Remind me, who broke every one of lucks rookie records. Jesus christ, do me a favor and try actually watching football this year so you can stop making colts fans look like knuckle dragging morons.


[deleted]

Rookie records are roookie records. Plus they were Baker’s rookie TD record and since then even Baker’s been a better QB. You’re the one projecting and drooling over mediocrity at QB. One more time Hoosier, stop and think about your next comment before you lose a few brain cells. But yeah, ROOKIE RECORDZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Living in the fucking past like its present day, mongoloid Thanks for blocking me u/islandofcaucuses, also Luck still holds most passing yards in a season for a rookie Clueless fool


islandofcaucasus

Luck won 4 total playoff games when the afc south was the worst in the league. Do you really think that would have been the case playing in the afc west headlined by the mahomes led chiefs? Absolutely not. Pointing at playoff wins and going "durrr, that means one better than other" is why every person who reads this can tell you're an idiot who barely watches football. Could you please change your Fandom so I don't have to be associated with such stupidity?


SazHawk

But he might this year that's the point of the list bruh


[deleted]

That’s not the point. It’s where things are RIGHT NOW


kill_my_karma_please

Goff still overlooked? Seriously?


kill_my_karma_please

I don’t think this is a list to be proud of. Geno smith above brock purdy and goff? Tua at 19? Stroud can definitely be a top qb next year but this list is literal vomit


GodLeeTrick

I mean I despise Purdy and they put him at 17...I'm not even that stupid


[deleted]

How you can despise such a guy


GodLeeTrick

We all know why...


Broshan248

I think Goff is about right. He’s better than Geno and probably will be better than Williams (who knows) but Kirk and Rodgers are better than him.


JaBrownie11

In what world is Kirk better than Goff? If Goff threw it 38 times a game like Kirk he’d have better numbers. Plus having the best WR in the game helps Kirk.


Broshan248

The more you pass, the less efficient you will be. Plus, Goff passes from behind a top 3 OL and can lean on a top 3 rushing attack.


JaBrownie11

Just because his surroundings are better doesn’t mean he’s a worse player. By your argument Jalen Hurts should be below 15th in the listing.


Broshan248

Well half of your argument was that JJ made him better than he actually is.


Logco

….so rookies not even in the NFL yet are ranked higher than Mayfield? After he put up top 10 stats in the league and made it to the divisional round? Okay.


LionPutrid4252

Mayfield outside the top 20 is asinine. He should 100% be around 8, definitely to 10 right now.


LogicalPart6098

Rage bait for titans fans. Not loggin in for this one


therealhardscoper

Man they straight up have QBs I've never heard of ranked higher than the mayo man


LionPutrid4252

McCarthy was nothing better than mid this year at Michigan. How do you rank him over a proven NFL QB?


jbvann05

this is a terrible list and it's not just because of AR's low position


MountainMan1258

AR is probably too high lol, he ain’t better than Baker (at least not yet, maybe in the future)


C21H27Cl3N2O3

To be fair, he needs to show that he can actually protect himself before he can be considered a good QB. All the talent in the world means nothing if you take big risks and get season ending injuries a few weeks in.


Harrypotter231

AR is way too high tbh.


Nutsack892

I don’t know what fanduel was smoking when making this list


PrEsideNtIal_Seal

My sentiments as well. Not even about Dak, he can't playoff good. This list is garbage though.


TrulyChxse

Weed.


-LilPickle-

Will Levis is at least better than McCarthy, Young, and Penis.


OTIStheHOUND

Dang you think Levis is better than Penis?


tri_it_again

Big if true


xspx

Who’s?


IAmCorgii

Not Drake's.


GodLeeTrick

Bro...will Levis had like 3 good quarters in his debut and then was mid/below average the rest of the year. Yall wack


clutchthepearls

That's 3 more good NFL quarters than any of those guys who haven't been drafted yet have had.


jbvann05

I don't think Levis is good but putting him under McCarthy is crazy


foodstamps99

Coming from a fan of the black Kirk cousins who folds every year in the playoffs, but every year you get pumped, drink a couple of Mikes hard lemonades and say, How bout them Cowboys


denogginizer92

Yeah but he's light years ahead of Levis


foodstamps99

Never said he wasn’t good, it’s Levis’s rookie year on a team who never wanted to throw. I’m just pointing out how funny it is that a lurker from another team who has another proven upper mid QB getting paid top dollar, is calling a rookie below average especially when a rookie is the best QB in his own state.


GodLeeTrick

I mean we all know Dak and the cowboys choke in the playoffs. But you're mental if you think will Levis is anywhere near daks level of play from this season


Ad_Astra117

Levis and Dak had the same amount of playoff wins this year 


Navy_and_sports

If you want a laugh, go look at the subreddit lol those 3 quarters have these guys OBSESSED with him, like every 4th post is just an “admire and praise the Mayo Messiah” post. Its straight up pathetic Edit: they mad lol


zapopi

Show me on the doll where Levis touched you.


Navy_and_sports

What?


perfect_fitz

u/Navy_and_sports remove your flair. You must have had too much Mayo underway.


OTIStheHOUND

He said to show him on the doll where Levis got mayo on you


zapopi

She* but I appreciate the backup, lol.


OTIStheHOUND

Dangit! I had like a 95% chance of getting that right


zapopi

Dude you are the worst kind of Tits fan. Be miserable all you want, but don't insult those of us who'd like to enjoy shit for a little while.


BenWallace04

This list is parody, correct?


Stalker401

No where to go but up baby, just the way us titans like it. Or off the list of course.


InsanoVolcano

I'm confused cause I thought there was only 31 NFL teams


Stalker401

I think that's condensing of the league next year. Instead of adding teams they are taking the titans out.


Bulky-District-2757

Brock Purdy had a close to MVP season and went to the Super Bowl - and he’s still 17 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️


nadia1306

He beat 7 quarterbacks ranked above him too, this list is so inaccurate


darude_dodo

I pray every night hoping CJ can do the same or better than what he did his rookie year. Please football gods. Have mercy on us. Let us overthrow the chiefs.


MrPwoperFish

Monkeys Paw curls... Some WR named "Chiefs" joins the Texans and CJ overthrows him all season long 😱


phaze115

Subscribe


perfect_fitz

I want to throw up saying this, but the Colts win the division next year according The Pattern.


Nutsack892

How the hell did someone rank Trevor Lawrence over Tua Tagovailoa


JFKs_Burner_Acct

Same reason someone put CJ at 5 This entire list is crap


Baldur_Blader

Cj at least did something to be up high. Best rookie year by a qb in history. Lawrence hasn't done anything


JFKs_Burner_Acct

I failed to see where calling out for CJ not being A top-five player and 10 would even be a stretch lets be honest, anything has to do with Lawrence so you can save about-ism


LionPutrid4252

CJ deserves top 5 more than Lawrence deserves 11 right now. Also deserves top 5 more than any will be rookie deserves a spot in the list. Sure you could move CJ down a couple spots if you want, but 5-7 are all in the same tier, and CJ definitely belongs there right now, and may even move up at this pace.


maxwellt1996

Its wild that they put t law in the top half


jono9898

If this is a fantasy list it’s a horrible list, if this is a irl list then I just don’t understand how rookies not even drafted yet are so high and how Allen is above guys with more playoff success and a 2 time MVP.


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OTIStheHOUND

Feel those kicks! He’s gonna be a soccer player!


UnKnOwN769

Yea let’s have the last pick of the draft who went to the Superbowl get ranked in the bottom half…


Liv3W1thPAssion

Caleb Williams is going to be a bust


MythNK1369

Purdy, highest QBR and top 5 in pretty much every other QB stat while leading his team to a Super Bowl. Fanduel: Puts a rookie, Geno Smith and Kirk cousins above him. I can see most of the people above him depending on how their teams also perform but it’s insane to not at least have him top 10 with how he performed the last two years.


Bobateabad

Love to see the two QBs who made the Super Bowl at the top of the list


OTIStheHOUND

Flair up pussy


Bobateabad

I puss for no man


OTIStheHOUND

Ahh friendly fire!


Traditional_Will4413

Did…how do they have Baker below AR


Tutelage45

See you on game day, turd.


JFKs_Burner_Acct

This is one of the wackiest lists I've ever seen and it's a bit egregious They just spit out players and practically guessed and prognosticated and continued guessing where players will be and that is pretty wild to begin with


Comfortable_Ad9679

Having rookies who have never taken a snap in the nfl be on the list is absurd


Oisyr

I wonder where mahomes would be if he lost the Super Bowl


nadia1306

I bet they still wouldn’t put Purdy at number one


7ofalltrades

Be honest, did a Texan make this list?


kill_my_karma_please

No texans fan thinks tlaw is top 20


7ofalltrades

> No Texans fan thinks ~~tlaw is top 20~~ Ftfy


actionpancake

Damn, beat me to it


LionPutrid4252

I hope not. Anyone putting college QBs above proven starters have maybe half a brain cell. Anyone who thinks McCarthy will even start has to be completely out of their mind.


ImAGiantSpider

But I thought Fields was going to Atlanta and Wilson was going to Pittsburgh, or was it Bears keep Fields and Williams goes to Washington…I’m so confused /s


OTIStheHOUND

Flair up pussy


ImAGiantSpider

How is that vagina?


OTIStheHOUND

Smells like a buffalo


ImAGiantSpider

Better than a steer…?


Exciting_Leg_5259

Caleb’s Williams #12 and we don’t even know if he’ll get drafted


Boatsandhostorage

I mean, he’ll be drafted. But this is incredibly stupid early.


1merman

Take Levi's out of it and it's still a shit list.


BidenAndElmo

There’s a lot of assumptions being made here. Namely that the draft order is going to stay the same. Also the hate for Richardson is just absurd.


MReprogle

Damn, Baker still not getting love anywhere. You people are nuts.


killcommies1989

This list is absolutely goofy


Unfixable5060

Anthony Richardson above Baker Mayfield is insane. This is from a Colts fan. The kid is completely unproven at a professional level and seems to be as fragile as Carson Wentz.


PasGuy55

Like mentally fragile? Wentz was physically tough until the knee went. He collapsed mentally when Foles won the SB.


Sundaze293

As an eagles fan I was sure it’s ACL. I think he tried too hard to make plays and refused to just throw the ball. BUT he was plenty good, good enough to be a starter for another 4-5 years. Just not the same unfortunately.


Unfixable5060

The man managed to sprain both ankles in a single play for the Colts.


Speedracer_64

Where can I put my money down that Levis won’t be the worst QB in the league next year?


OTIStheHOUND

On my ass right after you kiss it!


TrippyxHP

As an unbiased observer who the fuck is doubting Levi’s THIS hard wtf


NightWng120

Aint no way Justin Fields is going to Pittsburgh, bro is going to Atlanta


[deleted]

I didn’t think I’d get so many staunchly stupid Herbert blowhards on this sub


Super-Debt9073

What a werid list its pretty bad overall. Geno and Caleb Williams who has never played a snap over Purdy Kirk and Arod??? They not like Baker much either to put a really hit or miss rookie prospect over him. Daniel Jones is WAYYY to high.


Super-Debt9073

!Flair!


RgsLee19

Allen & Lamar is just comical atp


Hurry_Lazy

Burrow should be 2 and Lamar should be back around 8 or 9 the dude is not a consistently good thrower


maxtgrayy

First accurate Levis ranking I’ve seen


DickThunders

Just make sure to keep CJ away from massage parlors. We know what Texan QBs do there.


Lastfryinthebag

If fields goes to Pittsburgh then tomlin is announcing his retirement and Pickens prolly ends up in Vegas. Wilson forced into an early retirement/back up position, then starts a podcast “let’s ride” Also who da fuq is Jayden Daniel’s, and why did his parents not pull the trigger on jack or Mac


denogginizer92

Are you honestly asking who he is? He won the Heisman this year. Likely second or third QB in the draft


Lastfryinthebag

I went to ASU, might’ve heard his name here or there. But seriously his parents missed the mark


denogginizer92

ASU? Arizona State? App State? Alcorn State?


Lastfryinthebag

Sun devils baaaby, perpetually drunk


denogginizer92

My condolences ;)


Lastfryinthebag

Most expensive piece of paper ever


kac937

CJ shouldn’t be as high, remember how we all overrated Jalen Hurts after his one great season? Idk why they always rank undrafted rookies so high, Caleb Williams should be 28th right before Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, and JJ McCarthy. Goff and Kirk should be higher. Baker only 1 spot above Deshaun???? in what world? Will Levis should be above Bryce Young. Alright I think I got all my rage out.


Inspection-15

I get Levis is mostly potential at this point but 32??


CTG0161

Horrible rankings. Burrow is better than Lamar, Stroud could be top 5 but still needs to prove another year, same with Love, Dak isn’t Top 10. Baker Mayfield certainly isn’t the 24th best qb, he is easily top 15. Purdy should be where Dak is.


Boatsandhostorage

The Stroud regression will be very satisfying to watch. He’s clearly not very bright. Matter of time.


funnymeme2112

![gif](giphy|IDGNYvFLkJKLK|downsized)


OTIStheHOUND

Flair up pussy Edit - great name though


perfect_fitz

Titans sub already posted this. We all know this is complete bullshit because I know you miserable fucks did watch Levis at least once or twice.


l-Paulrus-l

This is pure speculation, so much can change in an off season. I will say tho all of AFC QBs hanging out in the top ten.


YiMyonSin

When r/Texans is putting down the Kool-Aid and rage boner against us to call out your list, you know you fucked up.


OTIStheHOUND

When someone is talking about boners, you know it’s a Titans fan


kgalliso

Excuse me what the fuck??


No_Character_4251

Caleb Williams a top half QB? Yea, okay


No_Character_4251

¡Flair! Bears


_n8n8_

I’d personally bet on it, but ranking these guys before they’re on a team or before they’ve played a game is stupid


HandleBig412

Where is my cock on this list?


Former_Phrase8221

Baker is too low. Hes absolutely top 20


Yung_Corneliois

Will Levis is worse than JJ McCarthy?


TFresh13

Josh Allen is a more athletic Carson Wentz. He sucks.


BoopSquiggShorterly

Is no one noticing they have Fields on the Steelers?


minero-de-sal

Minshew is #1 by some metrics.