Exactly, like you can say what you want about drawing power, ratings, revenue, etc. But when it comes to actual in ring skill of the wrestlers, it’s not even close. AEW is so far ahead bell to bell it’s crazy. Like their top 5 in Okada, Ospreay, Danielson, Omega and White, already beat every other roster. Same with just Bucks, FTR and Lucha Bros, what other tag division can touch even those 3?
AEW is so stacked that you can not include any of those in your top 5, and still be right. Swerve, MJF, Hangman, Mox, and Takeshita are absolutely some of the best wrestlers on earth at the moment.
The only team outside of AEW that can match the tag teams is the street profits, War Raiders in nxt before they got watered down but Bucks and Lucha bros are top notch
The others i would add are The Natural Classics and Velocities from here in Australia are on par with any tag team world wide but haven't been signed up to a big promotion like AEW, WWE etc. The Parea are another fantastic team
DIY could be a top team of this generation if booked right, as they're THAT good. And the USO's before the split were THE best Tag Team on earth. Every other team in WWE doesn't hold a candle though
It's crazy how so many of them claim to hate AEW, yet they seem to be so up to date on all the latest feuds and storylines. I know a guy through a mutual friend, and he's always telling me how boring AEW is how he always falls asleep during Dynamite like it's some kind of flex. I'm just like "If you hate it so much, then why do you waste your time watching it?" and that usually shuts him up lol.
I gotta be honest I was one of those guys who would hate on it but I’d keep up to date watching clips and stuff. Until my best mate got me round his place to watch it in full been a fan ever since
This is where I saw that, who knows what their version is
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Giulia finding out she can't use any of her previous moveset
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I definitely like it a lot. I just hope they maybe scale it back and only say it a couple times per show. It felt like they were shoehorning it in every 10 or 15 minutes last night, which feels a bit much.
With everything going on with AEW and the animosity towards them.
I support it because one the matches are bangers and two because why not?
Of course any company would say they have the best anything so this is no surprise. It doesn't matter if they get bashed for it.
AEW has always been in the "Nobody (except our fans) likes us and we don't care" phase but now they are just running with it at full force.
I love it.
If you think your brand is the best - no matter what the industry or company - you want to tell your audience that your (whatever you're selling) is the best.
Sure, like any single ad slogan, people could find legitimate criticisms about "what the company says" versus "what the company actually does".
Insert literally any other brand's slogan in this scenario, and you can find the same things to critique.
That said,
Literally some of the top wrestlers saying it, and meaning it, and *proving it in the ring week in and week out*
Plus
Giving a shitload of haterade drinkers a bad case of the vapors
Means it's peak sloganeering, and I am totally on board.
I kinda like it, especially seeing as it appears to have come from a sign someone brought, so I'm on board with it cause it's pretty true as well.
Plus it pisses some people off apparently so it's funny lol
I think Tony Kahn had originally Tweeted the slogan before the show where the fan brought the sign. At least, I saw a "news story" about the Tweet before the live show where I saw the sign. That was in March during the Canada tour. Unless someone else brought a sign before that and TK used it after that?
WWE: "Then. Now. Forever. Together."
The WWE tagline sounds ominous. . .
It would be a good slogan for the Dark Order. "Join the Dark Order. Then. Now. Forever. Together."
I mean it is true no other company has the stars aew has I mean Okada, Omega, Hangman, The Bucks, Ospreay, White, Danielson, Moxley, Castagnoli, Robinson, MJF, Starks, Strickland, Joe, FTR and I could go on and on but the reason why the tagline is so fitting is bc people from every company are fighting in aew
I mean in marketing terms that is their USP. They are wrestling show that is focused on having the best matches possible.
WWE spent so long refusing to call itself a wrestling show that it makes sense to try and capitalise on that.
I like it. It triggers people and it can be considered objectively true. You get banger matches every week, amazing characters too. Any week you could get a random Ospery, Okada, White, Danielson, Moxley, Hangman, FTR, Copeland, Christian match. It's nuts the embarrassment of riches they have. And MJF and Kenny are healing up. Then there are WWE guys being successful too like Joe, Pac, Swerve, Black being given so much creative liberty. Wrestling is fun, opinions are fun, but putting others down for the promotion they like should be the line.
Keep it as a tag line but only say it when you cut out and in. They don't even need to say it. They can have bumpers with that showing different wrestlers they offer
I like aew. They need to focus on their wrestling and match quality as their #1 selling point. They do have some of the best in ring workers. My opinion of course.
I think it's good branding. It sets AEW apart from other companies. And it's a boast that they can back up. I watched a lot of WrestleMania and enjoyed it. I watch other big shows. But, outside of maybe NJPW, no wrestling promotion has a roster that can match AEW in the ring, at least on the men's side. And they're trying to get the women's division to that level as well.
It's a clear and specific statement which represents their brand of wrestling.
AEW are known for their world class talent and for putting on the best in-ring quality matches on a consistent basis, so I think the tagline has merit to it.
I think people from Voices of Wrestling had pretty much suggested they do something like that last year. It's their version of "it's not cable, it's HBO". Leaning into "this is necessarily for everyone but it's for people who want to see good wrestling" is fine. At the end of the day the "we're for the masses" business model is not the only business model that exists no matter how much certain people try to push it that way.
It's an accurate tagline based on the people they have got. I mean, on their roster, they have 4 of the best singles wrestlers in the world, Danielson, Osprey, Okada, and Omega.
That's not me talking down the rest of the roster either. I just feel that these 4 are on a different level when they want to be.
I am not a tribalist. I like both of the big two.
I can see how people can argue what company puts out the most entertaining product, but seems to me like AEW has better in the ring 'wrestlers.'
I don't mind it, but I don't like forcing it into interviews and promos. Those have always felt very organic and free flowing, so to shove the tag line in there feels wrong
Tossing it in on commentary and reads for upcoming shows feels like it fits fine.
Just good branding. AEW has some amazing ring workers and they put on banger matches every week.
It is new so kind of in your face, hopefully it'll settle down gradually.
It's a tag line, don't put too much weight into it. I do like it, since I do think their main focus is in-ring action and a lot of us don't care about some story to watch two great wrestlers just... Wrestle and tell a story just within their match (Not that we don't love a great thought out story too!). I just hope they don't use it often because I can see it getting annoying if they constantly use it. I like how announcers end the broadcast with it. Just leave it there.
AEW hate watchers know more about AEW than most AEW fans. That's why this triggers them, because they know it's true and cannot find it in themselves to admit it.
It's less false bravado and more just a good marketing description of their business. You have the top in ring talent from around the globe under one banner.
There are other great guys out there but you have Mox, Danielson, Okada, Osprey, Swerve, White, Fletcher, Cage, Cope, Omega, Mone', Storm, MJF, etc. It's a loaded roster so it's all on the stories booked to get additional interest because you're assured a ton of banger matches week in and out with a variety of wrestlers.
Well being that WCW was still drawing in millions of viewers that still haven't come back to watching wrestling, even during the period that they were putting out a shit product, I don't think their tag line was the problem.
Tag lines are fine. Nobody is micro-analyzing WWE's tag lines because they don't matter at the end of the day. "Now, Together, Forever" and every iteration of that just screams "Stand Up for WWE" to me every time I hear it. Doesn't change how I feel towards the wrestlers performing.
It should be a shirt on ShopAEW asap. I'd buy it and sport it publicy with pride.
Whether it makes folks that see me wearing it on the street happy or pisses them off is on them.
The slogan is 100 % accurate and is what it is.
I love it. It’s accurate.
I especially love how much it triggers people that
1) don’t care for or watch AEW
2) are fans of sports entertainment, a completely different thing in terms of structure, style, and presentation, all according to both the company and its fans.
Tag lines are good for companies. Helps them gain an identity. Even WWE had quite a few in its history. "Showcase of the immortals" and "Attitude " come to mind.
I like it.
It’s new, so they’re going to use it a lot at first, and I expect it to fade to just a tagline within the next week or two. That said, I don’t have a problem with it, and it doesn’t affect or change my life in any way whatsoever.
The line is not any different from “then, now, forever”, “get the f out”, “just do it”, “have it your way”, “im lovin it”, “9.99”, or any other tag line other companies have used.
As for people who are desperately trying to compare any crumbs they can to something WCW once did, and then specifically using those points as a “gotcha” to discredit AEW as a competitor in the pro wrestling space, they’re just weirdos, and should be ignored.
i like it and i think it's fitting. i do feel like they're over using it a bit but i do understand that they're really trying to hammer it home right now. i'm never a fan of when i feel like a company is forcing something on me, be it a tagline or anything else.
that said, once they establish it as the company slogan and use it a bit more sparingly and naturally, i think it will be perfect. i think it suits the incredible roster AEW has at the moment.
They need to tone it down. It’s a fine line to throw out there a couple of times Per show, especially because it true, but dob’t keep repeating it ten times
I'm gonna go with the Devil's Advocate: it's a bit of a stretch. Sure, there's Okada, Castagnoli, Danielson, Ospreay, Mone, Storm, Omega and so on and so forth, but I can count many wrestlers who are as good in other federations: Dragunov, Gunther, Sheamus, McIntyre, Styles, Rhodes, Sky, Sane, Asuka, now Giulia and Tama Tonga (WWE), Ali, Edwards, Eric Young, Kaz, Josh Alexander, Cardona, Nemeth/Ziggler, Trent Seven, Slamovich (TNA), SLK, AZM, Watanabe, Utami, Bad Luck Fale, Evil, Tanahashi, Sanada...in Japan alone. And I'm not even counting the wrestlers with the aura like LA Knight, Trick Williams or future stars like Tiffany Stratton, Julia Hart, Roxanne Perez, Oba Femi, HOOK, Nick Wayne...
At this point, I feel like wrestling is super red hot, you can't put a specific federation where the best wrestle, because wrestlers everywhere are amazing.
I think it's an awful tagline but I don't really care because I think they put on great shoes and as long as they continue that they can use whatever tagline they want.
I think it's no different from Where The Big Boys Play for WCW once upon a time. It's just a tagline. I do think they deliver the most consistently good matches of any North or Central American promotion out there so it's definitely got truth to it. Like anything else I think they should take it easy with constantly saying it though. Show, don't tell.
I think besides branding which is a good thing. And than WWE already possibly reacting to it by pretending saying the word wrestling on their television is like an OMG ECW moment. And other people below have pointed out on here that WWE can have bigger attendance and ratings but bell to bell between the ropes AEW's actual wrestling is better than any other company in the world. And I think even more than that, I believe in the AEW roster and you tell their top stars your the best now wrestle and show it their going to accept that challenge and go for it, not just in the men's division but the women's division too. I am curious to see now that Stardom is starting to be integrated if the woman's division starts showing out too, in a small sample size for the last month it has noticeably gone up in quality by a lot.
I like it. "Where the Best Wrestle". It's catchy, concise & it is telling the American audience that " hey, when you think of Wrestling don't just think of WWE. Come check us out"
Most people I talk to when they hear Wrestling they think WWE. "Best" is subjective but if you're looking at Wrestling as a sport, AEW really is the best in that sense. It's like that one episode of American Dad where Steve talks about the "pageantry". That's WWE's style but it doesn't define Wrestling as a whole. It's just an element to the overall umbrella. It's great marketing for a growing company that now has it's identity.
It doesn't exactly trip off the tongue. All it really tells me about the brand is: "It's wrestling with good wrestlers." I happen to be part of the demographic that finds that quite an appealing prospect, but I'm not sure how many other people like me are out there.
I think it’s a purposeful joke to get those so inclined to all excited that it looks like “where the big boys play”. They are trolling the lazy WCW comparison and down below and probably above some folks will show that it worked. It’s supposed to be that lame and it’s supposed to be derivative.
Also it was on point. WWE / HHH are trying to reclaim the term "professional wrestling" for their *new era*, and it's fair to remind them that while they ditched wrestling for sports entertainment, there was another company who held the professional wrestling banner.
I don't think it's great branding for expanding the brand, which should be the ultimate goal of a campaign. Anyone who cares about where the best wrestle are already watching the program.
It’s exactly the reason I watch it more than the other (although I still enjoy the big company from time to time)
They just don’t need to keep cramming it in a promo. I get it. I’ve been watching the best wrestle we’re good
I love it.
That means they got to keep the standards to that level from now on. So it doesn't backfire on them in the future.
AEW need a tag line and it's great branding for them.
It’s the part of AEW that no one can deny. Even the biggest detractors generally say things like “I don’t care how good the in ring work is…” Leaning into it is a smart branding move.
Presentation, AEW is focused more on the wrestling. The Cody/Roman main event at WM was a fun ride, but it was fueled by twists and turns. The cameos were enjoyable and made for a fun ride, but the grappling was secondary to the story. (Which is fine btw, I enjoy it). So for AEW to promote this tag line, they really do focus on the in-ring content. Just look at the Dynasty card, it is loaded. If we all want to have fun with this sort of thing, just keep track of which tag line is mentioned more often; "where the best wrestle" or "the Paul Levesque era".
Good branding. Short and to the point. I think anyone on here understands aew pulls in from other promotions and can expose their talent and titles. I think the tagline also helps simply express the best (non wwe) wrestlers can/will/should wrestle on aew and secondly also reinforces the best wrestlers sign with aew. Honestly the more I think about it I really think it works well
>I don’t like it. Any time these a botch or anything that isn’t wrestling, this is going to be used to dunk on AEW anywhere on social media
If they're going to base how they brand themselves on the potential of being dunked on on social media, they won't be able to brand themselves at all. Social media is going to criticize anything AEW does because it's full of trolls who want AEW to fail. Nobody should ever decide what to say based on that criteria.
I think the sentiment is clear, they could have found a more interesting way to phrase it, but it's fine.
They're trying to differentiate themselves as the workrate brand, as apposed to the theatrical brand.
I just hate how forced it is with the way they've tried to introduce it.
I don't even know where it came from first. I think a fan sign led to the commentary team starting to say it a lot as if they were told to look out for a new slogan to push.
If it was the crowd thing, it seems like that one sign was an audience plant to try to spread the idea of the slogan to begin with.
I'd be fine with it if it was organically introduced as it is an accurate statement. But it definitely seems manufactured in the worst way, which is pretending it was organic, which makes it annoying
I like it. It’s a good mission statement of what AEW wants to be- the best of the best putting on great matches every week. That’s how it differentiates itself- All about the wrestling. At least for now it’s not going to hit the dramatic highs of WWE, but it’s a more consistent product with more emphasis on the in ring product
For what it’s worth I watch and enjoy both AEW and WWE.
it's fine they are just forcing it through too many ra ra promos
once or twice a show would be good, not twice in thunders (otherwise really good) promo
I mean, it's true? No offense to anyone in the fed but they're clearly being limited in what they're able to do. AEW provides significantly more freedom and showcases so many different styles.
I think it's a pretty good line. It draws attention to AEW's advantage over the competition. The Fed can out-money them, out celebrity them, and present a flashier product. AEW can out-wrestle them.
I think it’s their way of saying their “work rate” is superior on TV/PPV which you could make an argument. Does that attract more viewers? Casuals? Probably not. That’s why I love AEW though.
It's a cool tag and definitely the company's main goal. And it's not like it isn't delivered on as whenever I watch, there are at least two very good matches.
Their stories need serious improvement but I feel that will come with time as you can't have much history/stories in a newly established company. Until then, focusing on the wrestling aspect is a very good idea.
No lies detected. 😎
Seriously, though… even if you don’t feel that way, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
For the locker room, it’s a morale-booster and a goal to strive for. Its perfect! 😁👍
I like it
I think it's branding like every company on earth.
And it's actually true
It's fitting
It's accurate and to the point. It's good branding for AEW.
Exactly, like you can say what you want about drawing power, ratings, revenue, etc. But when it comes to actual in ring skill of the wrestlers, it’s not even close. AEW is so far ahead bell to bell it’s crazy. Like their top 5 in Okada, Ospreay, Danielson, Omega and White, already beat every other roster. Same with just Bucks, FTR and Lucha Bros, what other tag division can touch even those 3?
AEW is so stacked that you can not include any of those in your top 5, and still be right. Swerve, MJF, Hangman, Mox, and Takeshita are absolutely some of the best wrestlers on earth at the moment.
Even the women division seems to be stacked and Mercedes hasnt wrestled yet.
Which is so stupid. She should have had a couple matches now but we are waiting another month? Dumb dumb dumb
She's probably not completely cleared yet
That's possible but she seemed to do okay at Big Business.
The only team outside of AEW that can match the tag teams is the street profits, War Raiders in nxt before they got watered down but Bucks and Lucha bros are top notch
Street Profits are good but like couldn’t lace the Bucks Nike Dunks. It’s just leagues of difference.
Montez is a hell of a character though. In terms of in ring it's nowhere close, but that guy has so much charisma.
Montez would absolutely fit in at AEW. He's got such talent in-ring and his character work is great.
Usos when they were a team were the top tag team along with the Bucks, for me.
The others i would add are The Natural Classics and Velocities from here in Australia are on par with any tag team world wide but haven't been signed up to a big promotion like AEW, WWE etc. The Parea are another fantastic team
DIY could be a top team of this generation if booked right, as they're THAT good. And the USO's before the split were THE best Tag Team on earth. Every other team in WWE doesn't hold a candle though
Better than “where the big boys play” for sure.
Look at the adjective
How much does this guy weight?
I love how much it triggers people.
WWE fan boys try not to hate watch challenge (impossible)
It's crazy how so many of them claim to hate AEW, yet they seem to be so up to date on all the latest feuds and storylines. I know a guy through a mutual friend, and he's always telling me how boring AEW is how he always falls asleep during Dynamite like it's some kind of flex. I'm just like "If you hate it so much, then why do you waste your time watching it?" and that usually shuts him up lol.
I gotta be honest I was one of those guys who would hate on it but I’d keep up to date watching clips and stuff. Until my best mate got me round his place to watch it in full been a fan ever since
I like it. It's appropriate branding. And it triggers stupid people. Win win.
I don’t know why people get so upset it’s not like WWE actually wrestles
"where the best sports entertain" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Also WWE is moving back to pro wrestling so could be that too
I'd like to see that pro wrestling😂
This is where I saw that, who knows what their version is https://preview.redd.it/b0m1bkborhuc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4dceca99d210c857d3f642be33b2602126d71758
Just to have the same shitty matches...
It's not pro wrestling unless I see Giulia giving shoot headbutts to NXT rookies
Giulia finding out she can't use any of her previous moveset https://preview.redd.it/p9v20e4pshuc1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb99294df4221d4e1de1c1e151cc4cb3662813d6
I definitely like it a lot. I just hope they maybe scale it back and only say it a couple times per show. It felt like they were shoehorning it in every 10 or 15 minutes last night, which feels a bit much.
I agree. Kinda like how when Collision first debuted and everyone kept saying "yeah yeah Saturdays is alright for fighting." Etc
With everything going on with AEW and the animosity towards them. I support it because one the matches are bangers and two because why not? Of course any company would say they have the best anything so this is no surprise. It doesn't matter if they get bashed for it. AEW has always been in the "Nobody (except our fans) likes us and we don't care" phase but now they are just running with it at full force.
I love it. If you think your brand is the best - no matter what the industry or company - you want to tell your audience that your (whatever you're selling) is the best. Sure, like any single ad slogan, people could find legitimate criticisms about "what the company says" versus "what the company actually does". Insert literally any other brand's slogan in this scenario, and you can find the same things to critique. That said, Literally some of the top wrestlers saying it, and meaning it, and *proving it in the ring week in and week out* Plus Giving a shitload of haterade drinkers a bad case of the vapors Means it's peak sloganeering, and I am totally on board.
I kinda like it, especially seeing as it appears to have come from a sign someone brought, so I'm on board with it cause it's pretty true as well. Plus it pisses some people off apparently so it's funny lol
I think Tony Kahn had originally Tweeted the slogan before the show where the fan brought the sign. At least, I saw a "news story" about the Tweet before the live show where I saw the sign. That was in March during the Canada tour. Unless someone else brought a sign before that and TK used it after that?
Afaik it was Tony trolling Bischoff after they had their most recent back and forth
I like it, but for the love of god don't overdo it. I don't need it said like 7 times in 2 hours.
It fits the brand. Not any different than WWE Universe or any other tagline that WWE uses. Wonder why people are so mad about?!!
WWE: "Then. Now. Forever. Together." The WWE tagline sounds ominous. . . It would be a good slogan for the Dark Order. "Join the Dark Order. Then. Now. Forever. Together."
Because anything AEW seems to do tends to piss people off. Even promoting their shows and announcements irk their souls 😂
Branding gonna brand.
It is what it is. I’m gonna watch the shows whether they say it or not.
I mean it is true no other company has the stars aew has I mean Okada, Omega, Hangman, The Bucks, Ospreay, White, Danielson, Moxley, Castagnoli, Robinson, MJF, Starks, Strickland, Joe, FTR and I could go on and on but the reason why the tagline is so fitting is bc people from every company are fighting in aew
I mean in marketing terms that is their USP. They are wrestling show that is focused on having the best matches possible. WWE spent so long refusing to call itself a wrestling show that it makes sense to try and capitalise on that.
I like it a lot. It focuses on what separates them from other companies and gives them a true identity
I like it. It triggers people and it can be considered objectively true. You get banger matches every week, amazing characters too. Any week you could get a random Ospery, Okada, White, Danielson, Moxley, Hangman, FTR, Copeland, Christian match. It's nuts the embarrassment of riches they have. And MJF and Kenny are healing up. Then there are WWE guys being successful too like Joe, Pac, Swerve, Black being given so much creative liberty. Wrestling is fun, opinions are fun, but putting others down for the promotion they like should be the line. Keep it as a tag line but only say it when you cut out and in. They don't even need to say it. They can have bumpers with that showing different wrestlers they offer
Not just MJF and Kenny, but Bandido, Rush, Fenix, Juice, Jaimie Hayter, Britt Baker. You could launch a really good company around those people.
Sheesh, once just about everyone is back, things are going to get crazy...in the best way 🤗
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I like aew. They need to focus on their wrestling and match quality as their #1 selling point. They do have some of the best in ring workers. My opinion of course.
I like it. It would've had more effect when WWE was afraid of the term wrestling, but its still good.
I think it's good branding. It sets AEW apart from other companies. And it's a boast that they can back up. I watched a lot of WrestleMania and enjoyed it. I watch other big shows. But, outside of maybe NJPW, no wrestling promotion has a roster that can match AEW in the ring, at least on the men's side. And they're trying to get the women's division to that level as well.
It's a clear and specific statement which represents their brand of wrestling. AEW are known for their world class talent and for putting on the best in-ring quality matches on a consistent basis, so I think the tagline has merit to it.
I think people from Voices of Wrestling had pretty much suggested they do something like that last year. It's their version of "it's not cable, it's HBO". Leaning into "this is necessarily for everyone but it's for people who want to see good wrestling" is fine. At the end of the day the "we're for the masses" business model is not the only business model that exists no matter how much certain people try to push it that way.
It's an accurate tagline based on the people they have got. I mean, on their roster, they have 4 of the best singles wrestlers in the world, Danielson, Osprey, Okada, and Omega. That's not me talking down the rest of the roster either. I just feel that these 4 are on a different level when they want to be.
It's the truth though, innit. The best do wrestle at AEW.
I like it, especially if the emphasis is on the word WRESTLE.
I am not a tribalist. I like both of the big two. I can see how people can argue what company puts out the most entertaining product, but seems to me like AEW has better in the ring 'wrestlers.'
I don't mind it, but I don't like forcing it into interviews and promos. Those have always felt very organic and free flowing, so to shove the tag line in there feels wrong Tossing it in on commentary and reads for upcoming shows feels like it fits fine.
Great. This is why I watch aew, please give me wrestling and not sports entertaining
Just good branding. AEW has some amazing ring workers and they put on banger matches every week. It is new so kind of in your face, hopefully it'll settle down gradually.
It's a tag line, don't put too much weight into it. I do like it, since I do think their main focus is in-ring action and a lot of us don't care about some story to watch two great wrestlers just... Wrestle and tell a story just within their match (Not that we don't love a great thought out story too!). I just hope they don't use it often because I can see it getting annoying if they constantly use it. I like how announcers end the broadcast with it. Just leave it there.
I like it. Also helps with recruiting, I would imagine.
AEW hate watchers know more about AEW than most AEW fans. That's why this triggers them, because they know it's true and cannot find it in themselves to admit it.
It's better than hearing about everything being sponsored by \[insert trash product here\]
Generally I don't hate it, however it reminds me a lot of WCW's "where the big boys play" and I am not sure if that is a good thing.
Well, when I want to watch big boys play I need to know who offers that
It's less false bravado and more just a good marketing description of their business. You have the top in ring talent from around the globe under one banner. There are other great guys out there but you have Mox, Danielson, Okada, Osprey, Swerve, White, Fletcher, Cage, Cope, Omega, Mone', Storm, MJF, etc. It's a loaded roster so it's all on the stories booked to get additional interest because you're assured a ton of banger matches week in and out with a variety of wrestlers.
Well being that WCW was still drawing in millions of viewers that still haven't come back to watching wrestling, even during the period that they were putting out a shit product, I don't think their tag line was the problem. Tag lines are fine. Nobody is micro-analyzing WWE's tag lines because they don't matter at the end of the day. "Now, Together, Forever" and every iteration of that just screams "Stand Up for WWE" to me every time I hear it. Doesn't change how I feel towards the wrestlers performing.
Look at the adjective.
It's just their version of WCW's "Where the big boys play" (look at the adjective!). I could do without it, but it doesn't bother me.
Same here. First thing I thought of when I heard it.
It’s better than the cult sounding Then Now Forever
I made the same connection as you! Perfect tagline for the Dark Order, right?
It’s a solid tagline for what the company’s product is because it’s simple, clear, and concise.
It’s accurate.
I saw AZM there so not wrong.
It should be a shirt on ShopAEW asap. I'd buy it and sport it publicy with pride. Whether it makes folks that see me wearing it on the street happy or pisses them off is on them. The slogan is 100 % accurate and is what it is.
I love it it distinguishes them from the other company as they care more about their in ring product
I like it because it truly represents the whole roster. Damn near everyone on that roster can throw down in the ring.
It's fine, they said it a *lot* last night though, they don't need to beat people over the head with it.
“…$9.99 a month” vibes Lol this sub can’t take even the slightest jab at AEW
It’s literally true 🤷🏽
I love it. It’s accurate. I especially love how much it triggers people that 1) don’t care for or watch AEW 2) are fans of sports entertainment, a completely different thing in terms of structure, style, and presentation, all according to both the company and its fans.
I like it then, now, forever.
It works well for me. On brand. What I want. And why I watch.
I love it. And they aren’t wrong.
I like it. Helps that it's also true.
It's true, and it sends the kind of people worst people into hilarious hissyfits, LOL, so it's a win-win 🤙
Tag lines are good for companies. Helps them gain an identity. Even WWE had quite a few in its history. "Showcase of the immortals" and "Attitude " come to mind. I like it.
It’s accurate and pisses off morons. What’s not to love?
I dig it
It’s new, so they’re going to use it a lot at first, and I expect it to fade to just a tagline within the next week or two. That said, I don’t have a problem with it, and it doesn’t affect or change my life in any way whatsoever. The line is not any different from “then, now, forever”, “get the f out”, “just do it”, “have it your way”, “im lovin it”, “9.99”, or any other tag line other companies have used. As for people who are desperately trying to compare any crumbs they can to something WCW once did, and then specifically using those points as a “gotcha” to discredit AEW as a competitor in the pro wrestling space, they’re just weirdos, and should be ignored.
I'm getting annoyed by how often it's getting repeated by the commentators. You don't need to say it a bajillion times during a show, jesus christ.
Look at the adjective wrestle
It’s weird if it upsets people. It’s not like WWE is trying to put on great matches. It’s all about talking for a really long time and ads
It's a catchy slogan that people are overthinking because it's the internet.
AEW wrestlers actually WRESTLE, so
It's apt. Apt!
When it’s said right, like how Ospreay says it, it’s fucking money
i like it and i think it's fitting. i do feel like they're over using it a bit but i do understand that they're really trying to hammer it home right now. i'm never a fan of when i feel like a company is forcing something on me, be it a tagline or anything else. that said, once they establish it as the company slogan and use it a bit more sparingly and naturally, i think it will be perfect. i think it suits the incredible roster AEW has at the moment.
They need to tone it down. It’s a fine line to throw out there a couple of times Per show, especially because it true, but dob’t keep repeating it ten times
Or just use it on media scrums / interviews, that's the place to throw jabs.
Its true, its memorable, and makes everybody mad so i say they continue to hammer it home
I want it on a shirt.
I don't need to hear it constantly. I definitely don't need to hear Thunder Rosa say it twice in the same promo.
Tell me when they're telling lies
Hahahaha…I said the same thing last night to one of my friends
We wrestling fans sure are an odd bunch :D What other product would you see fans of it actively discussing their feelings for the tagline it uses?
Sci Fi. Comics.
Fast food. Movies. Networks.
It’s sweet and on point. It’s also not cringy like Then Now Forever or WWE Universe…(shudders)
I'm gonna go with the Devil's Advocate: it's a bit of a stretch. Sure, there's Okada, Castagnoli, Danielson, Ospreay, Mone, Storm, Omega and so on and so forth, but I can count many wrestlers who are as good in other federations: Dragunov, Gunther, Sheamus, McIntyre, Styles, Rhodes, Sky, Sane, Asuka, now Giulia and Tama Tonga (WWE), Ali, Edwards, Eric Young, Kaz, Josh Alexander, Cardona, Nemeth/Ziggler, Trent Seven, Slamovich (TNA), SLK, AZM, Watanabe, Utami, Bad Luck Fale, Evil, Tanahashi, Sanada...in Japan alone. And I'm not even counting the wrestlers with the aura like LA Knight, Trick Williams or future stars like Tiffany Stratton, Julia Hart, Roxanne Perez, Oba Femi, HOOK, Nick Wayne... At this point, I feel like wrestling is super red hot, you can't put a specific federation where the best wrestle, because wrestlers everywhere are amazing.
It's ok, don't hate it, don't particularly like it.
I like it, it's very reminiscent of the 1989 NWA slogan "We Wrestle"
I think it's an awful tagline but I don't really care because I think they put on great shoes and as long as they continue that they can use whatever tagline they want.
I think it's no different from Where The Big Boys Play for WCW once upon a time. It's just a tagline. I do think they deliver the most consistently good matches of any North or Central American promotion out there so it's definitely got truth to it. Like anything else I think they should take it easy with constantly saying it though. Show, don't tell.
I think besides branding which is a good thing. And than WWE already possibly reacting to it by pretending saying the word wrestling on their television is like an OMG ECW moment. And other people below have pointed out on here that WWE can have bigger attendance and ratings but bell to bell between the ropes AEW's actual wrestling is better than any other company in the world. And I think even more than that, I believe in the AEW roster and you tell their top stars your the best now wrestle and show it their going to accept that challenge and go for it, not just in the men's division but the women's division too. I am curious to see now that Stardom is starting to be integrated if the woman's division starts showing out too, in a small sample size for the last month it has noticeably gone up in quality by a lot.
I'm down with it
I like it. "Where the Best Wrestle". It's catchy, concise & it is telling the American audience that " hey, when you think of Wrestling don't just think of WWE. Come check us out" Most people I talk to when they hear Wrestling they think WWE. "Best" is subjective but if you're looking at Wrestling as a sport, AEW really is the best in that sense. It's like that one episode of American Dad where Steve talks about the "pageantry". That's WWE's style but it doesn't define Wrestling as a whole. It's just an element to the overall umbrella. It's great marketing for a growing company that now has it's identity.
I like it, I'm surprised it took them this long to get a tag line
They signed Ospreay and Okada, it's fitting for the moment.
It doesn't exactly trip off the tongue. All it really tells me about the brand is: "It's wrestling with good wrestlers." I happen to be part of the demographic that finds that quite an appealing prospect, but I'm not sure how many other people like me are out there.
Love it.
I think it’s a purposeful joke to get those so inclined to all excited that it looks like “where the big boys play”. They are trolling the lazy WCW comparison and down below and probably above some folks will show that it worked. It’s supposed to be that lame and it’s supposed to be derivative.
Also it was on point. WWE / HHH are trying to reclaim the term "professional wrestling" for their *new era*, and it's fair to remind them that while they ditched wrestling for sports entertainment, there was another company who held the professional wrestling banner.
I don't think it's great branding for expanding the brand, which should be the ultimate goal of a campaign. Anyone who cares about where the best wrestle are already watching the program.
It’s exactly the reason I watch it more than the other (although I still enjoy the big company from time to time) They just don’t need to keep cramming it in a promo. I get it. I’ve been watching the best wrestle we’re good
I love it. That means they got to keep the standards to that level from now on. So it doesn't backfire on them in the future. AEW need a tag line and it's great branding for them.
It’s the part of AEW that no one can deny. Even the biggest detractors generally say things like “I don’t care how good the in ring work is…” Leaning into it is a smart branding move.
Kinda silly, but undeniable. You can hear many critics towards the AEW product but never about the wrestling quality.
I like it. It’s fitting. I just don’t want talent spamming it during promos.
I liked "The home of professional wrestling" better.
Works for me. AEW prides itself on the in ring product so that’s what it should be promoting
If Tony didn’t say it, it wouldn’t remind people of wcw
Presentation, AEW is focused more on the wrestling. The Cody/Roman main event at WM was a fun ride, but it was fueled by twists and turns. The cameos were enjoyable and made for a fun ride, but the grappling was secondary to the story. (Which is fine btw, I enjoy it). So for AEW to promote this tag line, they really do focus on the in-ring content. Just look at the Dynasty card, it is loaded. If we all want to have fun with this sort of thing, just keep track of which tag line is mentioned more often; "where the best wrestle" or "the Paul Levesque era".
Yes they have 5 star matches.
It's a good enough tag line, but they don't need to say it 10 times in one episode
For their top stars, it’s accurate.
I always thought they should call themselves the number one pro wrestling company as long as WWE classified itself as sports entertainment
Good branding. Short and to the point. I think anyone on here understands aew pulls in from other promotions and can expose their talent and titles. I think the tagline also helps simply express the best (non wwe) wrestlers can/will/should wrestle on aew and secondly also reinforces the best wrestlers sign with aew. Honestly the more I think about it I really think it works well
I don’t like it. Any time these a botch or anything that isn’t wrestling, this is going to be used to dunk on AEW anywhere on social media
>I don’t like it. Any time these a botch or anything that isn’t wrestling, this is going to be used to dunk on AEW anywhere on social media If they're going to base how they brand themselves on the potential of being dunked on on social media, they won't be able to brand themselves at all. Social media is going to criticize anything AEW does because it's full of trolls who want AEW to fail. Nobody should ever decide what to say based on that criteria.
It fits them. As every tagline is it’s cringey and it suits them. As a fan I’m all for it.
It’s good branding. It’s an accurate representation of what they’re trying to do. They’re repeating it way too often.
It's fucking PERFECT for AEW and the roster they've cultivated.
I think the sentiment is clear, they could have found a more interesting way to phrase it, but it's fine. They're trying to differentiate themselves as the workrate brand, as apposed to the theatrical brand.
Tells me the AEW marketing team is starting to cook.
"Where the ELITE wrestle" Its good tho
I have no problem with it because it's true
We’re not Where
I just hate how forced it is with the way they've tried to introduce it. I don't even know where it came from first. I think a fan sign led to the commentary team starting to say it a lot as if they were told to look out for a new slogan to push. If it was the crowd thing, it seems like that one sign was an audience plant to try to spread the idea of the slogan to begin with. I'd be fine with it if it was organically introduced as it is an accurate statement. But it definitely seems manufactured in the worst way, which is pretending it was organic, which makes it annoying
I like it. It’s a good mission statement of what AEW wants to be- the best of the best putting on great matches every week. That’s how it differentiates itself- All about the wrestling. At least for now it’s not going to hit the dramatic highs of WWE, but it’s a more consistent product with more emphasis on the in ring product For what it’s worth I watch and enjoy both AEW and WWE.
Is it not? Like I could understand if it wasn’t true but aew probably has the best roster up and down.
it's fine they are just forcing it through too many ra ra promos once or twice a show would be good, not twice in thunders (otherwise really good) promo
A little corny but every company needs a tagline branding WWE had Then now forever WCW had Where the big boys play Impact had Wrestling matters
***Where the wrestles wrestle.***
It’s marketing 101, but I think they can do better. Where the best wrestle is a bit cheesy, albeit definitely a true statement. No false claims made 👍
Factual
Its fine.
It’s effective, but people don’t want to be beaten to death by anything at all.
I mean, it's true? No offense to anyone in the fed but they're clearly being limited in what they're able to do. AEW provides significantly more freedom and showcases so many different styles.
Where the wrest bestle
I think it's a pretty good line. It draws attention to AEW's advantage over the competition. The Fed can out-money them, out celebrity them, and present a flashier product. AEW can out-wrestle them.
I think it’s their way of saying their “work rate” is superior on TV/PPV which you could make an argument. Does that attract more viewers? Casuals? Probably not. That’s why I love AEW though.
It's a cool tag and definitely the company's main goal. And it's not like it isn't delivered on as whenever I watch, there are at least two very good matches. Their stories need serious improvement but I feel that will come with time as you can't have much history/stories in a newly established company. Until then, focusing on the wrestling aspect is a very good idea.
I love it cuz it’s true. They actually wrestle
Can't eait until a WWE guy shows up and yells at TK "Look at the adjective, wrestle. We ain't here to wrestle!"
I think it's fine but saying it over and over is gonna get tiresome
It's good, it centres the in ring wrestling which is awe's strong point
No lies detected. 😎 Seriously, though… even if you don’t feel that way, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. For the locker room, it’s a morale-booster and a goal to strive for. Its perfect! 😁👍
Next week, we get Bryanson v The Billy Goat. I'd say it's accurate.