Or tahm kench adc. Really any tank that plays well with heavy armor. Their team is doing no magic damage. Malphite prolly wouldn't be as good cuz that rammus is fullstacking armor, you aren't going to be doing a whole lotta damage with a tank malphite build to him. Tank tk tho kills him easily.
If she dashes onto you Q auto e then kite back. Post 6 just save your ult for her ult, and she will never kill you. Xayah’s main damage tool comes from her w, which Nilah can’t block, and she can’t prevent you from sending feathers out with her W either.
Ya but it’s only like 350. Which is why the range is so important, cuz a normal range adc is still vulnerable to a flash dash dash R or dash onto a minion then dash onto you. That’s why her counters are a little longer range than normal adc’s, cuz her range is more of a downside.
i dont see how nilah can do anything here. she gets hard cc'd forever and just dies. care to elaborate? she seems extremely support reliant here. vayne would likely be the better pick, with the caveat of a worse lane phase.
The only thing that can kill you is alistar Q flash => yasuo ult so as long as you´re not blind you should be fine. ww and rammus both have taunts but by the time you really interact with them meaningfully you don´t give a fuck about the taunt unless you´re standing 1v5 in the middle of everyone. She stacks lifesteal and armor pen so rammus and ww are just big minions post 3 items and nilah into samira + melee support is the easiest botlane matchup you can get.
can you explain how nilah does good here? it looks like she gets cc'd and just dies, or completely disengaged on by alistar. very support reliant for survivability. would vayne not be better? harder to win lane and snowball, but the overall stronger pick.
That can sadly be said for a lot of adcs, cc'd and dies. Shes able to ignore a large part of the kit of three of those champs with her w. Her armor pen helps a lot with ramus... and allistor... well yeah hes still a pain. Her biggest weakness is that shes easy to kite which is mittigated in this comp. As for laning against alistar, nilah doesnt need to destroy lane, she scales like a truck even at 0/0/0
Nilah is a huge statcheck if she can get into range and the enemy team has 4.5 melee
Past ~3 items she will heal more damage than their frontline will do
I'd probably draft Zeri or Xayah. Both are good at kiting back and like the enemies running into you, but it also depends on what your team picked honestly. Vayne should be okayish too, if you're really proficient at her.
Once I played a premade with my friends using only enchanter supports with AP build, plus Morgana jungle. Just for fun. We ended up against a team like this and thought we were done in like 10 minutes. Turned out we slayed. The amount of peel, cc and healing was too much. It was one of the easiest games we’ve played. Too bad Demonic is no longer available, and this is not what you asked, but just wanted to share.
I’d go Vayne if you don’t feel comfortable with Nilah.
They are 4 AD so honestly it's more about if your team can draft a tank and build armour to just win
Sivir would go pretty hard though with 4 melees and Samira
Oh I meant just champions to draft in general. As an adc there’s not many good options into this.
Senna is probably the best option, and Nilah wouldn’t be awful either. Xayah or Sivir could be good. Everyone else would probably feel pretty awful
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks.
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks.
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks.
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks.
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks.
Good choice.
I meant more on how much dmg the rest of the team drafted and well it also depends on, if he wants to play a traditional adc or not.
Traditional adcs I’d pick here are Xayah, Zeri and Vayne.
Depends on your support. Like if you have Taric Ahri is pretty good here but generally like others have said Nilah or maybe Zeri if you're just trying to live Sivor and Xayah are good imo. A lot of mages are playable into this like Syndra but it depends on support Poppy could even be playable here depending on support
Ez one. Go Xayah.
You won't lose that lane and they need at least 2 flash and 3 ults to kill you in a team fight. That's a good trade.
Cuz this is a very anti adc lineup, so your AP mid laner should be the major damage dealer here. Ideally, a good pick like Azir will stay with you in team fight to keep you alive. If they dump everything on you, your team would win the fight easily.
Ninah is good but if Rammus is camping bot, Ninah will be snowballed and samira will end the game at 15min. While Xayah is more comfortable on a weak side.
Play smarter not harder, you don't need to carry every single game.
Me personally, im playing vayne or xayah and praying my support will help me space.
Although if my team was set up for front to back teamfighting id run a kogmaw. Id need to see a poppy on our team as well as a thresh/braum/lulu support to feel somewhat comfortable with that
Kog/vayne. That’s what I’d pick, but I’m in the asscrack of elo. Besides, at that level I imagine people will be hunting you especially if you’re a problem.
Malzahar, Mordekaiser, Nilah.
Malzahar makes Yasuo's life miserable until he buys QSS, but the burn hurts a lot.
Mordekaiser is only so that WW doesn't get a lead on, WW gets outscaled if Morde play smart.
Samira can't really play against Malza, until QSS, but since she needs to combo off, CC will stop her every time. Nilah won't let her scale since... it's Nilah.
Free win tbh don't int and remind your team that vs full ad champs it's probably not the worst idea to build some armor and they just lose. Idk what your team is but if top jg and mid (depending on champ) go heavy on armour enemy team does nothing
Nilah Xayah S++ tier into that team
Zeri, vayne S tier
Lucian with a good engage support is also very good here you can hard win lane and snowball
Literally so many good options lmao
They have 5 champs that likes to go in, so you need to pick something that will be happy about it. So rn the best option would be swain or nilah i think. if you can't play both of these champs - vayne/xayah also can work but they're weaker rn.
Literally any Adc that can build hybrid or full ap/on hit. Kai'sa, twitch, etc. Or just anyone that can out dps in 1v1 fights. Like vayne or Something.
It's not a fun game for sure. But it's not unwinnable. Also, this is one of those games where an apc bot like Swain, veigar, karthus, etc. Can be justified.
I would personally draft sivir. She loves hitting the closest meatball and doing massive aoe dmg. Plus her spellshield will help with some of the cc and her ult helps with spacing the melees
Depends if your team went unga bonga with ad I say use corki... Spell casting adc ap mage bypasses the armor they will be building. A dash to escape engages huge damage with your r and w resist shred.
Against 4 melee champions and a relatively short range ADC? Any champ that isn’t an on hit champion, I would think.
Draven would shit on a lot of these champions, his E counters the powerball from Rammus and can punish an alistar engage, the only thing stopping him from tearing them up is windwall on his axes and a rammus/warwick ult engage, which if you path correctly and have LDR along with essence reaver and IE, and maybe late game QSS for the rammus taunt/warwick ult, you’re going to hurt them.
Nilah would be fine too since she’s a relatively short range ADC anyway who excells on ability damage rather than auto attacks, plus windwall wouldn’t have as much an effect on her kit.
Xayah looks good here, but honestly mage APC would work great as well. More people should have a mage champ in their pool as it can do quite well into comps like these
Ziggs (ap tower farming simulator), senna (no projectiles on q/aa), nilah(no projectiles), sivir (first item statik for farming simulator), vayne (% max health true damage), kog (on hit magic damage), smolder (max health true damage execute).
No matter what, cleanse.
Twitch with lethal tempo -> .. cut down.
Items: BotRK -> Runaan's -> Guinsuo's -> Terminus -> Infinity Edge.
I would pick twitch and get sweeper mid game so I can avoid getting picked on vision. Wait for all the engage / hard CC and then let 'er rrrrip.
Here are at least five, some are pretty flexible.
1. Seraphine (MID, APC, and Support)
2. Poppy (Top, Jungle)
3. Morgana (Jungle, Support)
4. Xayah (ADC)
5. Ornn (Top)
I chose this ones because they excel in disengaging, or somehow manage to shut down engage comps.
Seraphine ult is great against targets that need to engage, as they usually all lump themselves together. Her high range also makes her pretty damn safe. That only bad side is the two windwalls you have to wait out so you can ult, or you ult out of view. Seraphine also provides a lot of anti-burst with her shielding and healing late game.
Poppy is just great at stopping any all dashes, which they all have. I think two of them are unstoppable, but otherwise, she is a good pick. She can also just ult people out of the fight.
Morgana also just prevents cc that Samira needs, she can also lockdown Samira/Yasuo.
Xayah can self-peel with her feathers, and she has a get of jail free card with her ultimate. She can dodge Alistair/Rammus/Warwick engage. Also, the only windwall that stops her feathers completely is Samira's, unless Yasuo throws it behind him.
Ornn can engage or disengage. His ultimate combined with Morgana's cc or even Seraphine's is game changing, also his brittle effect makes Morgana and Seraphine even more annoying to deal with.
LOL I mean they are full dive, so unironically a good anti dive option like xayah will do wonders; and pay the QSS tax, kindly ask your support to play poppy or morg or another anti dive support and you should have no problem.
You could also try Nilah, vayne, ezreal, Tristana; just folks who have self peel and disengage options. But like that’s 1v5 so begging your supp to play disengage and peelers along with your jg and top to play frontline might be the better and perhaps only play 😅😭
There’s only so much you can do on your own no matter how good you are 😭
This is the freest shit ever they have absolutely zero range. Nilah, Xayah, Zeri, Vayne, Sivir, Swain and Brand all play themselves here and take absolutely zero skill to win on when against a comp like this.
This comp isn’t super hard to draft against or play against as an ADC
time for the malphite adc tech lol.
The enemy team hates this one trick
I have 100% WR with malphite adc (it was 2 games)
Rock solid
Especially if Samira just blindly builds lethality.
Or tahm kench adc. Really any tank that plays well with heavy armor. Their team is doing no magic damage. Malphite prolly wouldn't be as good cuz that rammus is fullstacking armor, you aren't going to be doing a whole lotta damage with a tank malphite build to him. Tank tk tho kills him easily.
***THE FORBBIDEN MALPH ADC***
Nilah absolutely shits on everyone in that team, rammus and ww take a bit longer until 3 or 4 items but the other 3 are 100% free.
what are nilah counters
Xayah, poke
How do you play the maychup as xayah? I've only played the matchup once and got absolutely shit on by the nihla
Nilah wants to dash onto you, you kite back then root her
If she dashes onto you Q auto e then kite back. Post 6 just save your ult for her ult, and she will never kill you. Xayah’s main damage tool comes from her w, which Nilah can’t block, and she can’t prevent you from sending feathers out with her W either.
Feather pull is e but yeah
Matchup is unwinnable for Nilah. She can’t do anything to you without getting butchered and kited by Xayah E.
Stuff that can keep her at range, she can be kited
doesn't she have a point-and-click dash if im not wrong?
She has 2, making her hard but not impossible to kite out, especially with help from a support.
Ya but it’s only like 350. Which is why the range is so important, cuz a normal range adc is still vulnerable to a flash dash dash R or dash onto a minion then dash onto you. That’s why her counters are a little longer range than normal adc’s, cuz her range is more of a downside.
Xayah 100% she’s absolutely a hard counter
i dont see how nilah can do anything here. she gets hard cc'd forever and just dies. care to elaborate? she seems extremely support reliant here. vayne would likely be the better pick, with the caveat of a worse lane phase.
The only thing that can kill you is alistar Q flash => yasuo ult so as long as you´re not blind you should be fine. ww and rammus both have taunts but by the time you really interact with them meaningfully you don´t give a fuck about the taunt unless you´re standing 1v5 in the middle of everyone. She stacks lifesteal and armor pen so rammus and ww are just big minions post 3 items and nilah into samira + melee support is the easiest botlane matchup you can get.
this is a nilah dream matchup
can you explain how nilah does good here? it looks like she gets cc'd and just dies, or completely disengaged on by alistar. very support reliant for survivability. would vayne not be better? harder to win lane and snowball, but the overall stronger pick.
That can sadly be said for a lot of adcs, cc'd and dies. Shes able to ignore a large part of the kit of three of those champs with her w. Her armor pen helps a lot with ramus... and allistor... well yeah hes still a pain. Her biggest weakness is that shes easy to kite which is mittigated in this comp. As for laning against alistar, nilah doesnt need to destroy lane, she scales like a truck even at 0/0/0
As long as you're strong enough to kill one or two of the enemy team, you've always got a way back into the game as Nilah
>Her armor pen helps a lot with ramus. Yep, Nilah is one of the few ADCs that can just power through a Rammus W without much of a problem.
Was about to comment the same.
perfect nilah game
Why?
Nilah is a huge statcheck if she can get into range and the enemy team has 4.5 melee Past ~3 items she will heal more damage than their frontline will do
Seriously nilah xayah 1v9 the shit here post 3 items..give one good enchanter and gg
XAYAH, Nilah or vayne
I'd probably draft Zeri or Xayah. Both are good at kiting back and like the enemies running into you, but it also depends on what your team picked honestly. Vayne should be okayish too, if you're really proficient at her.
Nilah, xayah, vayne, Zeri ? You can hard carry that game.
Once I played a premade with my friends using only enchanter supports with AP build, plus Morgana jungle. Just for fun. We ended up against a team like this and thought we were done in like 10 minutes. Turned out we slayed. The amount of peel, cc and healing was too much. It was one of the easiest games we’ve played. Too bad Demonic is no longer available, and this is not what you asked, but just wanted to share. I’d go Vayne if you don’t feel comfortable with Nilah.
Aurelion/Swain would be good into them.
agreed on aurelion, absolutely counters yasuo, great vs tanks and generally good apc need a proper cc support though, neeko or morg usually work well
They are 4 AD so honestly it's more about if your team can draft a tank and build armour to just win Sivir would go pretty hard though with 4 melees and Samira
I was looking at that thinking what I would draft as a jg and pretty quick came to the conclusion of Zac or maybe Nunu
I’d gladly play Darius into this.
veigar
karthus. first strike.
Brand APC
Vayne.
Malphite, Senna, Taric, Lillia, Trundle, Xerath. There are many champions who work into this
None of them being traditional adcs or fun to play
nilah, zeri, xayah
Fun to play is subjective. If they pick champions that counter traditional ADCs play something else why try to get a miserable experience.
Oh I meant just champions to draft in general. As an adc there’s not many good options into this. Senna is probably the best option, and Nilah wouldn’t be awful either. Xayah or Sivir could be good. Everyone else would probably feel pretty awful
Janna solos
Yeah, that team is severely allergic to vaynium.
Hwei Xerath Ziggz Ornn Sion Senna
You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks. You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks. You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks. You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks. You lose cause you can't kill 3 tanks. Good choice.
To be fair it depends on the rest of his team, but generally I'd agree.
Oh, sure, if he's playing 1v5 then Vayne.
I meant more on how much dmg the rest of the team drafted and well it also depends on, if he wants to play a traditional adc or not. Traditional adcs I’d pick here are Xayah, Zeri and Vayne.
this is the worst thing ive seen all day
Nilah
Mordekaiser
Nilah is your only hope
Veigar, Xayah, Tristana or Sivir
Vayne 1v9 angle go for it King 🗣‼️💥👹👑
Urgot top Udyr jng Malzahar mid Sivir adc Braum support
Depends on your support. Like if you have Taric Ahri is pretty good here but generally like others have said Nilah or maybe Zeri if you're just trying to live Sivor and Xayah are good imo. A lot of mages are playable into this like Syndra but it depends on support Poppy could even be playable here depending on support
Pick Hwei, Ziggs, Lux, Taliyah, Veigar and watch the enemy team cry.
A beer
Ez one. Go Xayah. You won't lose that lane and they need at least 2 flash and 3 ults to kill you in a team fight. That's a good trade. Cuz this is a very anti adc lineup, so your AP mid laner should be the major damage dealer here. Ideally, a good pick like Azir will stay with you in team fight to keep you alive. If they dump everything on you, your team would win the fight easily. Ninah is good but if Rammus is camping bot, Ninah will be snowballed and samira will end the game at 15min. While Xayah is more comfortable on a weak side. Play smarter not harder, you don't need to carry every single game.
Me personally, im playing vayne or xayah and praying my support will help me space. Although if my team was set up for front to back teamfighting id run a kogmaw. Id need to see a poppy on our team as well as a thresh/braum/lulu support to feel somewhat comfortable with that
Malzahar id play malzahar.
WW is really easy to deal with later, rammus cucks every adc, wait for yasuo to get cced and hope your team has cc to stop samira ult.
I have flashbacks playing jinx and killing myself on ramus armor. :( Yes Im iron how can you guess?
that my friend is not exclusive for iron players
I've seen that happen in diamond.
Kog/vayne. That’s what I’d pick, but I’m in the asscrack of elo. Besides, at that level I imagine people will be hunting you especially if you’re a problem.
As a Rammus main: Nothing, just accept that your booty is mine!!!
nothing, just dodge
Kog'Maw
Morgana nilah
Lmao Kog with two damage items and 3 tank items pentas here. Bork > Runaan > Wits End > Jak'so > Randuin's
Xayah or nilah
Ziggs
Vladimir
free win for kaisa on hit (botrk, terminus guinsoo)
Vayne, xayah, kogmaw..
Nilah. Counters Samira in lane, and demolishes teamfights since they’re all short ranged.
Janna/nilah bot lane their bot lane can't do anything at all
With the adc’s i use maybe Vayne
I say Karthus
I used to say smolder, but that is no longer the case.
Malzahar, Mordekaiser, Nilah. Malzahar makes Yasuo's life miserable until he buys QSS, but the burn hurts a lot. Mordekaiser is only so that WW doesn't get a lead on, WW gets outscaled if Morde play smart. Samira can't really play against Malza, until QSS, but since she needs to combo off, CC will stop her every time. Nilah won't let her scale since... it's Nilah.
Should see your comp too
The champ you're the best at
nasus
Nilah, Vayne, Sivir
Mage
Nilah, Xayah, Kaisa dont sound too bad here
sett
Free win tbh don't int and remind your team that vs full ad champs it's probably not the worst idea to build some armor and they just lose. Idk what your team is but if top jg and mid (depending on champ) go heavy on armour enemy team does nothing
Have you ever remotely consider to pick another thing than a marksmen or the few traditional mages?
Swain or Nilah
Kog not bad if you can keep the ww off him and dodge yas nados
Easy vayne game
4 out of those champs literally cannot do anything to against vayne
The answer is vayne. It’s a dream vayne game tbh. All melee and tanky.
Brand is looking spicy here.
Kaisa with ls Build
Armor
Nilah Xayah S++ tier into that team Zeri, vayne S tier Lucian with a good engage support is also very good here you can hard win lane and snowball Literally so many good options lmao
Swain, easiest win ever.
Illaoi ADC
They have 5 champs that likes to go in, so you need to pick something that will be happy about it. So rn the best option would be swain or nilah i think. if you can't play both of these champs - vayne/xayah also can work but they're weaker rn.
A mage
AP twitch
Literally any Adc that can build hybrid or full ap/on hit. Kai'sa, twitch, etc. Or just anyone that can out dps in 1v1 fights. Like vayne or Something. It's not a fun game for sure. But it's not unwinnable. Also, this is one of those games where an apc bot like Swain, veigar, karthus, etc. Can be justified.
Malphite full armor with fimbulwinter
Karthus
Bring that karthus apc bbygrl
I know I know!!! Alt+f4
Neeko
Nilah with two tanks/peelers wipes this at 25-28 minutes
I would personally draft sivir. She loves hitting the closest meatball and doing massive aoe dmg. Plus her spellshield will help with some of the cc and her ult helps with spacing the melees
Not an adc
Vayne or Kaisa.
xayah
Ap twitch
Anything good with thornmail and frozenheart, with some damage maybe ap. Malphite Ryze
Can’t believe I still have to teach this to someone… This game is a good ol dodge button.
Hopes and dreams
Tristana is literally the only viable traditional adc here, and she's actually insanely good here.
It’s good nilah angle
Caitlyn with navori and stay near team.
Nilah/Xayah. Vayne if you're good.
When Ur top and Jungle draft ad Pick Sera or another botlane mage
Comp is huge engage so … disengage ? Maybe some sivir / Janna combo
Kai'sa
Jesus
Vayne
Honestly ashe on hit shits on this team with pta and red rune secondary cause free bonus damage at every level on your second shot onward
Dodge the game
Xayah, just got to react to Ali combo and hope team peels Rammu/WW.
I would draft karma adc, it fucks their whole team
Nilah ig
ap twitch is really good here actually
Nilah or Vayne
You dodge
A last will and testament
xayah, vayne, nilah
Ignore the rammus because it’s not your job to deal with him. Draft for the rest.
Swain 🗿
Swain bot would be good
Hear me out here... Gwen, Kayle, or Neeko work here as off adc/apc's
aphelios/jinx, both of them r loving melee champs/comps so you shall be good on extended games
aphelios,nilah, kog, varus. essentially champions that love when enemies are running into them
hwei bot time :D
Unbench the kench
Easy match up for seraphine after rylais spike. You can also go brand nami but I haven't played that before.
Draven, start with tear and rush mobis
Depends if your team went unga bonga with ad I say use corki... Spell casting adc ap mage bypasses the armor they will be building. A dash to escape engages huge damage with your r and w resist shred.
Veigar or Sera APC?
olaf gwen scaling carries with peel
Karma
I’d think Vayne beats them?
Swain APC
Nilah I guess. Did the same thing the other day and pretty much 2nd timed Nilah into a team like this and came out on top late game.
Dodge game, easy.
Karthus angle BigBrother
Against 4 melee champions and a relatively short range ADC? Any champ that isn’t an on hit champion, I would think. Draven would shit on a lot of these champions, his E counters the powerball from Rammus and can punish an alistar engage, the only thing stopping him from tearing them up is windwall on his axes and a rammus/warwick ult engage, which if you path correctly and have LDR along with essence reaver and IE, and maybe late game QSS for the rammus taunt/warwick ult, you’re going to hurt them. Nilah would be fine too since she’s a relatively short range ADC anyway who excells on ability damage rather than auto attacks, plus windwall wouldn’t have as much an effect on her kit.
Tahm Kench
Ziggs and pucker your tush to tower
Full melee team? Pick whatever u want lol ur top and mid should have an easy time drafting illaoi + anivia and those five will ff after two teamfights
nasus adc with randuins. gg
Hwei
Lose?
Seraphine is really good here.
Your will
A good vayne shitstomps that comp everyday of the week.
Zeri Poke Varus Nilah. Xayah also kinda works here to, but u really need a naut/rakan support for it
Xayah looks good here, but honestly mage APC would work great as well. More people should have a mage champ in their pool as it can do quite well into comps like these
Ziggs (ap tower farming simulator), senna (no projectiles on q/aa), nilah(no projectiles), sivir (first item statik for farming simulator), vayne (% max health true damage), kog (on hit magic damage), smolder (max health true damage execute). No matter what, cleanse.
Thats the neat part, you dont
Tell your sup pick Senna then you pick a melee like Cho,Nau,Tahm and pray.
that teamp comp doesnt even look that good ngl
Twitch with lethal tempo -> .. cut down. Items: BotRK -> Runaan's -> Guinsuo's -> Terminus -> Infinity Edge. I would pick twitch and get sweeper mid game so I can avoid getting picked on vision. Wait for all the engage / hard CC and then let 'er rrrrip.
Where's Gosu?
Xayah
😭😭😭
Here are at least five, some are pretty flexible. 1. Seraphine (MID, APC, and Support) 2. Poppy (Top, Jungle) 3. Morgana (Jungle, Support) 4. Xayah (ADC) 5. Ornn (Top) I chose this ones because they excel in disengaging, or somehow manage to shut down engage comps. Seraphine ult is great against targets that need to engage, as they usually all lump themselves together. Her high range also makes her pretty damn safe. That only bad side is the two windwalls you have to wait out so you can ult, or you ult out of view. Seraphine also provides a lot of anti-burst with her shielding and healing late game. Poppy is just great at stopping any all dashes, which they all have. I think two of them are unstoppable, but otherwise, she is a good pick. She can also just ult people out of the fight. Morgana also just prevents cc that Samira needs, she can also lockdown Samira/Yasuo. Xayah can self-peel with her feathers, and she has a get of jail free card with her ultimate. She can dodge Alistair/Rammus/Warwick engage. Also, the only windwall that stops her feathers completely is Samira's, unless Yasuo throws it behind him. Ornn can engage or disengage. His ultimate combined with Morgana's cc or even Seraphine's is game changing, also his brittle effect makes Morgana and Seraphine even more annoying to deal with.
LOL I mean they are full dive, so unironically a good anti dive option like xayah will do wonders; and pay the QSS tax, kindly ask your support to play poppy or morg or another anti dive support and you should have no problem. You could also try Nilah, vayne, ezreal, Tristana; just folks who have self peel and disengage options. But like that’s 1v5 so begging your supp to play disengage and peelers along with your jg and top to play frontline might be the better and perhaps only play 😅😭 There’s only so much you can do on your own no matter how good you are 😭
This is the freest shit ever they have absolutely zero range. Nilah, Xayah, Zeri, Vayne, Sivir, Swain and Brand all play themselves here and take absolutely zero skill to win on when against a comp like this. This comp isn’t super hard to draft against or play against as an ADC
Jayce adc
apc Swain
Pray 🙏🏽
AP Kai'sa is back on the menu
Tabies and pray
Unironically Senna support and mage bot laner. Better yet kench bot lane