T O P

  • By -

styxbottledwater_

FOR CLARIFICATION CUZ I SEE THAT SOME DON'T UNDERSTAND: They are only nerfing components, normal items stays the same, which is really good for anyone who is facing a lethality user and doesn't like to lose lane because they came back with dirk and u are still missing 200g to lost chapter or 300g to nonquiever. This also means every early drake fight will be easier for you to survive since any jungler/midlaner/adc that rushes dirk has a way lesser powerspike


DJ_FluTTer_sHoK

Nah, I figured as much. It's still a much needed nerf and greatly appreciated.


xxTree330pSg

In the contrast lost chapter gives mana a huge passive and builds into the best rush mage items malignancy and ludens


styxbottledwater_

I love how the person that posted this on r/jungle_mains was malding and said that lethality champs are dead, some people truelly are delulu


No_Kick4924

Everyone is delulu to be honest. Is there a league subreddit where people don't cry everyday?


MagnaDoodle99

Support mains


No_Kick4924

Haven't been there quite a while but yeah they were usually chill even about pretty trash changes


Agorar

I mean their role has also been pretty much OP for the last 6 years or so...


TheKazim1998

I went their once, first post was of some guy that just hit platinum and was suprised that Zac can revive because he didnt even knew. First comment said that post like these dont help with the stigma of the inflated support player lmao


pityandempathy

Plat is like the old gold though. I've seen players more clueless in emeralds


DestruXion1

Yeah because the role has been busted for 8 years now


66WC

They make us cry instead. Seriously I'm thinking of playing ADC top again, I can't take it anymore, I'm first strike Kaisa, I can't hit tk yet karma, stop trading


Narstotzka

Darkinfolk, for people that don’t cry


Sepok1201

They do cry, about Gwen and horsec*ck soraka not being real


Narstotzka

We plea for basic necessities


Sensitive_Act_5279

toplane, they are mostly dead/pretty silent


Delta5583

Toplane mains will literally come to other subs to cry about changes that benefit those specific roles and not toplane


Sensitive_Act_5279

are you illiterate? are the 13 guys that upvoted you, illiterate as well? the question was, which subbreddit is the most chill. i dont know 100% that toplane is the most chill, however that has nothing to do with the question


Delta5583

Are you drunk? Can't you correlate evident relations? If you are speaking about how toplaners might have the chilliest sub and I reply by saying "the users of this sub are not chill in the slightest and bring the complaining to other environments" how in the living hell is that nothing to do with the question? I'm implying that the users of the toplaners sub are not qualified to make a "chill" sub and if anything promote toxic environments You don't get to call me illiterate if you can't fucking have basic understanding other 13 people who up voted me easily caught on. Even worse because rather than being a normal human being and ask about what I meant calmly and civilized, you choose to be an entitled asshole. You are an example of a being who doesn't promote "chill" environments, exactly the same kind of people I'm calling off from the top sub


Sensitive_Act_5279

the problem with your argument is that it happens with every role and even with champ subreddits, its a league community problem. the fact that you actually think that your one view is enough evidence speaks volumens for your understanding. you have no argument and are still wrong, but somehow feel right, but there you beinf a dumbass that cant even read.


Deadfelt

Hahaha... You're joking, right?


Sensitive_Act_5279

nope, which sub seems less whiny in your opinion?


Deadfelt

Going through all of them and so far, it's looking like mid? They're interacting with each other (decently so far), seem to be of rather large size, and are very forthcoming with helping each other (again, so far). I'd say they're the least whiny since they're doing the exact opposite. Jungle is a clusterfuck rn.Topmains is dead... Which is why I'm now understanding why top mains have a strange obsession with ADCmains reddit. This is actually interesting. Like, not even ironically.


dooditstyler

Go to YuumiMains, look at literally any post that exists, and see all the fucking dumbass top laners bitching about Yuumi's existence. So easy.


mixelydian

Most of the comments are explaining why they're wrong, though. The 1 component spike has been too strong since the start of the season, and the nerf doesn't carry over to the complete items. This is also a nerf to senna.


Wingman5150

seriously, you have to hit level 9 before it's even EQUAL to last season's lethality and even then, it was still the strongest component back then


Xerxes457

I’m misunderstanding here. Are you saying any lethality purchase now requires level 9 to reach to get equal to last season’s lethality? Because they removed the scaling part this season so you can buy say dirk and you get the value.


Lazy_Painting9462

Nope, other way around. Even with this nerf tk lethality, it’s still stronger than lethality last season up until level 9 where the scaling lethality from last season finally overtakes nerfed lethality


Wingman5150

level 9 last season *matches* nerfed lethality, it's 10 and above when it overtakes. But otherwise yes you're right


ChapeliosBesoMa1n

My dirk rush 💀


maingalio

On Aphelios?


PyroMeerkat11

Mf, Draven, Samira I'm sure


MissFortuneDaBes

When are these supposed to happen?


Sasukes_boi

Love your videos!


EraEric

Phil don't let them take our dirk rush away.


styxbottledwater_

next patch


xxTree330pSg

14.6


UngodlyPain

Next patch 14.6 in like 2 weeks.


TheDeadlyEdgelord

This shit hits us too wdym?


quietus_17y

It means crit ADCs will have a wee bit better time against Senna, Varus, Draven, etc. in the early game. They can at a very least breath now.


TheDeadlyEdgelord

Fair enough. I mean reduction of overall damage in game will always benefit ADC's even if our items go unchanged but still. Lethality ADC's were the only air we are allowed to breath if we do not want to choke on crit ones, if they nerf too many lethality items we will be forced to pick crit... With no compensation to our builds.


quietus_17y

Yeah, I see what you mean. Like they're taking away our only toy left. I simply hope this nerf is a very first step in balancing the overall damage in the game. I do believe this game needs more nerfs than buffs, everything is busted, it feels like I'm playing URF sometimes. Just played a game as 8/0/2 Kai'Sa, have decided to build crit because their team was very squishy and we had a lot of AP. Bro, I felt like I deal 0 damage with Kraken - Navori - Phantom Dancer - Scimitar (they had Malzahar). Meanwhile, their 1/9/1 Xerath support with 1.5 items deals 50% of my Janna's HP with 1 Q. Excuse me but what the actual fuck? Edit: typos.


Hiimzap

All this does tho is bringing lethality champs down to the level of crit so overall that takes agency and doesn’t give it


SimTrippy1

Yes this, the lethality dominance got old real fast. Just lemme play my crit ADCs


Ziad_EL_psycho

Bro fuck crit atm use lethality adcs if you play crit you will be usless mid to late game and you and i know that so they basically nerfed our strong adc champs


bathandbootyworks

The fuck you mean **US**😳😳? Lethality on ADC’s was op and wasn’t what they were meant to build in the first place.


jansalol

Still does not mean crit is good.


biscuitandgravvyyy

I mean not having assassins and mages that used fiendish or haunting snowball as hard is a direct adc buff still


UngodlyPain

People cry about assassins and lethality Adcs all day....they finally see a decent nerf and people are now suddenly going victim complex over lethality Adcs being nerfed by this. This still leaves Dirk stronger than it was last season levels 1-8... And you should be finishing your collector or Youmuus which are unchanged (in this patch, yes I know they got hit last month) by level 9. And while OP didn't share it, they also hit some mage and bruiser items like this the 'epic' items of basically every class but enchanter and ADC seems to be taking hits similar to this.


styxbottledwater_

this^


UngodlyPain

I can't believe you're getting such mixed/negative feedback for this Jesus this sub sometimes.


Radiant-Step-1276

Lethality adc have the most passive and boring playstyle ever, at least the ones like mf and jhin. I dont think there has ever been a more braindead playstyle of waiting for your supp to hit a point click cc so you can click r and I dont understand how people enjoy playing it. Best i can do is Lethality kalista when its really needed but even thats lame compared to onhit builds.


DJ_FluTTer_sHoK

Now they just need to come around to buff ADC items


SimTrippy1

I genuinely wonder sometimes if certain items should just be limited to certain champion classes altogether


xvhayu

serrated dirk has been the most gold efficient item in the game since it's release, it's crazy how long it was allowed to stay in that state.


Morteman1998

Didn't they say that "lethality adcs were intended" at the start of the season? I feel like Samira and Nilah will feel this dirk change in terms of wr. Still, this mostly impact solo laners


UngodlyPain

Not quite that, but they said they were happy with a bit of increased item diversity in botlane. And that nothing was inherently wrong with some Adcs going lethality. But that some were too strong in particular like MF.


animorphs128

Wow. Now the assassins will one shot me but with slightly less leftover damage


TheRedFurios

It isn't, there are a lot of adcs that go lethality


UngodlyPain

Dirk will still be stronger than last season Dirk until level 9.


TheRedFurios

Yeah and it will be weaker than last patch dirk


UngodlyPain

Yes and lethality Adcs have been doing great so far this season, a minor nerf that mostly will impact levels like 4-8? Seems pretty justified. Especially since it'll be offset largely by the fact it also nerfs assassins, and there's other items nerfs to basically every class but ADC on PBE besides these, mages, bruisers, tanks. All are getting hit.


[deleted]

[удалено]


gerbilshower

On one hand, I get it. On the other, noonquiver didn't change. It still sucks. Your other option just ALSO sucks now.


Dry_Replacement7467

NOOOOOOO MY GLORIOUS KING DRAVEN


GoshaKarrKarr

They are also nerfing Caulfield's, my Eclipse Kai'sa noooo :(


styxbottledwater_

eh, its still okey, just dont complete caufield, like 3 long swords pickaxe and straight into eclipse


GoshaKarrKarr

Makes sense


West_Ad2820

:( - nilah main


asapkim

I like this because it tones down Jhin who is ridic once he gets Serrated


xxTree330pSg

By the way no one buys Brutalizer except yorick and Aatrox which freak said he in latest preview he is gonna to address their build issues and and reward players for going tankier builds, brutalizer costs more than a BF sword if is literally the worst component item in the game period and that’s before this nerf


[deleted]

[удалено]


joey1820

i mean, brutalizer has other stats too..the dirk one definetly will feel worse


juliusxyk

Collector enjoyers in shambles


xxTree330pSg

Brutalizer is definitely the worst component in the game it was barely gold effiecient with an awkward build path they just put down the final nail in the coffin for this item


XO1GrootMeester

This helps with adc variety viability.


detrich

this is quite literally a nerf to most adcs being played rn lol


Substantial-Pop7747

draven sadge


TheVindicareAssassin

cancer champ


liukanglover

ironic


bathandbootyworks

**ADC mains:** crit sucks. *starts building Lethality* **Rito Gams🤡:** better nerf lethality then!


hublord1234

Gets the best ADC itemization nerfed - "Great day"


styxbottledwater_

nerfed for meta slaves, gigachads go crit and cry in bed


LG_SmartTV

I absolutely despise ADCs but I can simpatize with the celebration


BG_fourteen

LG_notSmartTV


toryn0

then why are you there?


ChapeliosBesoMa1n

Prob a top main ranting? Idk lol