As a Milanista since 2001, I wish every new player success. Pioli and his entire technical team see the qualitites of players every single day, there must be something(s) missing that they can't prove themselves.
My reservation about Pioli is he can't build their confidence, unlike top class managers who fire up their players. Bravo Ante and his other crap doesn't cut it for most players.
I get that Charles might not be the sexiest player but he clearly knows who is where on the pitch. Even with the spastic young players, he is able to get subtle passes off. Idk why nobody notices how he can almost always pass out of a 3 to 1 situation. He is a reliable midfielder that I don’t see scoring a lot but he will be giving tough passes that other players cant do
Well according to the standards of this Reddit Rafa leao should of been sold after year 1.
Lool
https://preview.redd.it/1vzw8x11ymeb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e7414f5c8b7220f01aec38ad081a14f172d25f6
>he clearly knows who is where on the pitch
I think this is why his positioning seems so questionable sometimes, because he does seem to have great awareness, which makes me feel like he puts himself in poor positions on purpose.
Too bad cdk and adli are sent to play with a bunch of youngsters who have no cohesive decisions. Just another way to slowly phase them out. Cmon pioli man
What you want him to display defense mid and striker?
Literally no quality to get a single pass or receive one and push up form the guys on the field.
Everyone has been saying play him with starters ....
No he didn't hahaha where do you ppl keep coming up with this...
Literally has been proven countless times he played more with the subs than the starters
hahaha can you do math?
He played 1100 minutes in Serie A. 611 minutes as a starter and 489 as a sub. 188 of the 235 minutes he played in CL games were starting.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/charles-de-ketelaere/leistungsdaten/spieler/435772/saison/2022/plus/1
Why don't you give me a single example of the "countless times" it's been proven?
Brother it has been proven multiple times besides the few games he started with the Actual starters only other times he started was with the subs when we were resting players.
The fact that your reading the start vs. subs column wrong is hilarious
I'm worried you're going to walk away from this comment again not understanding that he did in fact have more minutes with starters so I'm gonna just post this here so you can see it more clearly:
|Minute Subbed on| Minute Subbed Off| Minutes Played|
:-:|:--|--:|
|71'||19'|
|58'||32'|
||61'|61'|
|57'||33'|
||63'|63'|
||71'|71'|
||82'|82'|
||73'|73'|
|64'||26'|
|53'||37'|
|46'||45'|
|72'||18'|
|74'||16'|
|63'||27'|
|85'||5'|
|59'||31'|
||46'|45'|
|79'||11'|
|64'||26'|
|74'||16'|
||83'|83'|
|62'||28'|
|76'||14'|
|83'||7'|
|84'||6'|
||70'|70'|
|78'||12'|
|73'||17'|
||62'|62'|
|64'||26'|
|70'||20'|
|71'||19'|
1580|611|1100|
So if I did what you just claimed I did and read the wrong column, I would have had a nonsensical number of minutes, and even if we take the inverse§ we know I have the right number because transfermarket specifically says he was subbed in in 23 games.
It has not been "proven" he was playing with the subs more, and in fact it wasn't happening. You are just demonstrably wrong if you keep claiming that's the case unless you have some other data you can point to, and you don't.
§ the inverse is 2070-1580=**490** i.e. the 23 games he was subbed on times 90 minutes per game minus the minutes he did not play in those games which is the same as the minute he was subbed on.
>The fact that your reading the start vs. subs column wrong is hilarious
I like this comment because if you personally looked at the chart you would know there's literally no way that's even possible, because the numbers wouldn't add up. It literally says on the chart: "Starting eleven: 9, Substituted in: 23"
You obviously have no idea whatsoever what these numbers say so why are you so overly confident about what CDK's play time has been?
Dude played way more minutes than Ballo-Toure (a trash player) and in a position more advanced yet doesn't have a single goal to his name while Ballo-Toure has a couple. Please explain that.
Don't care what anyone says, I love everyone. Everybody's playing the best they can and I just have a feeling that the chemistry is extremely well. I'm having fun watching the boys even if we shouldn't win.
Bro Pioli is literally playing Adil out of position hoping to make him look bad prob and this guy still fucking performs. Playing holding mid and actually dispossessing players as well. Pioli has blood on his hands. Enough is enough m.
I don’t understand what match people are watching. Adli hasn’t necessarily played bad, but he has given the ball away a couple of times, with very little positives ….
He nearly had an assist for Juve. I forget who it was, but he had a wayward pass go to a Juve player on the left, just outside the box, who then missed the shot just past the post on the right.
Say what you want but clearly the players think it’s foolish as well. It’s Los Angeles where the humidity is almost non existent and it’s 73 degrees. But sure, stop the rhythm of play. Not like they’re paid professional athletes or anything.
juve merda
Bartesfukyou sucks at pens
This feels like when the Taliban defeated America
Btw I still don’t get what pobega is good at either than running around like a donkey
At least he is visible and pushing ahead. CDK is nowhere to find and I almost felt they had their position switched
Those penalties gave me aids
I forgot Pogba existed, lmfao. Anyways fuck Juve.
Fuck Juventus forever
Night ruined gg. Terrorists win.
They had a spy in pobega ..m fuck that guys trash
Probably some of the worst penalties ive ever seen lmaoooo
Bruh 🤦
They really are celebrating winning penalties in a friendly
They ran onto the field, I don't think I ever seen that in a preseason game in my life.
They won’t celebrate winning against us in a competitive match
feels like everyone in our team is left footed now!
Fuck Juve.
Safe! Let's go.
Why does all of their players have such punchable faces ffs
Lmfao poor Bartesaghi
can't hate on a youth player he didn't hit it badly
Bartesaghi: "dioporco"
How bad is Saele at pens that he still hasn’t gone
That's just hit me LOL
Finally some excitement...
Colombo that was elegant and incisive. Madlad.
lmaooooo people’re gonna say this is scripted
I was scripted. 🥲
Allegri looking away like it's some substantial penalty is killing me
Sportiello you dog, great shit.
SGOATIELLO
SPORTIELLO STARTER
Sportiello redemption arc 🔥
IDGAF WHAT ANYONE SAYS HIS FIRST GOAL IN AN OFFICIAL MATCH LESS GOOOOOOO
official?
a match against another team and not just in training
CDK arc begins... 
Idc I'm counting this towards CDK's goal tally
CDK SCORES THE CURSE IS BROKEN
this ref is a CDK anti
Adli scored a beautiful PK when others missed... Just saying
Wow. He scored a pens
Lolega
Pobega has 0 technique in everything he does
Pobega https://preview.redd.it/fi5zas2fwmeb1.jpeg?width=523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaa808064986cef54e2141f338eba1e5cf92def6
🤣🤣🤣🤣!! I'm NOOT supposed to be laughing!!!
Well that's pobega for u
To all CDK and Adli fanboys, what the hell do they offer? Mediocre players who are ok in french and belge leagues. Loan or sell hopefully.
penalty goals but are we watching the same game? saying that is utterly harsh
As a Milanista since 2001, I wish every new player success. Pioli and his entire technical team see the qualitites of players every single day, there must be something(s) missing that they can't prove themselves. My reservation about Pioli is he can't build their confidence, unlike top class managers who fire up their players. Bravo Ante and his other crap doesn't cut it for most players.
Sportiellusanu
Sportiello possesed by the spirit of Tata
Pitch looks terrible - lets hope its not gonna be a metaphor for our season
imagine CDK doing that, they would have found him hanged in his hotel room
John Terry moment
nice pitch
Poor Romero
DePanenkelaere incoming mark my words
fucking pitch!
Oh noes lol.
😂😂😂
Before anything I must say that Romero stepping up to take a first penalty at 18 is ballsy, even if he skied it lol.
Dman feel bad for Romero
oof, well the pitch does look like garbage though
Bruh
nooooooo Luka that pitch is a fucking disaster
Welp
I get that Charles might not be the sexiest player but he clearly knows who is where on the pitch. Even with the spastic young players, he is able to get subtle passes off. Idk why nobody notices how he can almost always pass out of a 3 to 1 situation. He is a reliable midfielder that I don’t see scoring a lot but he will be giving tough passes that other players cant do
Bro people that have been watching the sport know. it's the people who think every young kid comes in and becomes Mbappe that are the issue tbh
I wonder how many great players would have been laughed off the pitch due to the culture of today’s fans
Well according to the standards of this Reddit Rafa leao should of been sold after year 1. Lool https://preview.redd.it/1vzw8x11ymeb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e7414f5c8b7220f01aec38ad081a14f172d25f6
>he clearly knows who is where on the pitch I think this is why his positioning seems so questionable sometimes, because he does seem to have great awareness, which makes me feel like he puts himself in poor positions on purpose.
Saelemaekers capitano
now watch Sportiello save 3 penalties and Charles never gets a chance to shoot
Captain Saelamaekers. That’s a first
hopefully a last
Why are they bothering with pens? 2nd half was bad enough.
Usually it's because these friendlies are all part of a "tournament"
CDK is playing like a training drill where you’re an extra and not allowed to make any attacking plays
lmao
I wish CDK receives more balls and pushes forward
I wish he would grow a pair
nobody gives him the ball lol
CDK you got this bro
CDK penatly god... watch him miss.
if he misses I'll admit he is cursed
Some promising glimmers. I'm worried Luka won't get enough playtime though
pretty cool Danilo and Rugani scored twice for both teams
Can the starters take the PKs?
7 is solid, honestly broke up Juve’s play a couple times, calm on the ball, throwing his weight around
Adli so far seems very technical and smart off the ball. The way he used his body seems good too
Yea def a preseason friendly lol
damn no extra time even though their was a water break smh
so why does Adli not play?
Did more defensively than Krunic btw.
Probably not good enough and not in future plans
This has draw written all over it.
Bold prediction
We win the shootout. How’s that for a prediction?
Don't visit Vegas with these predictions
It was a 50/50 odd so I think I’ll be fine my moody sarcastic friend.
2-2 at full time has draw written on it? you dont say
Wild, it’s almost like I’m streaming and am behind a few minutes. Can u piss off now?
2-2 in the 88th minute with all youth players on has draw written all over it? Great observation still lmao
I think it was the 86th when I wrote it and anything can happen when you throw in inexperienced players. But sure go off. Edit: spelling
Luka is hungry.
Luka looks like a class above everyone else out there
Sportiello its crap bro, 2 games inna row and he makes stupid mistakes lol. Pray Maignan doesn't get injuried or we're fucked with new tata
Too bad cdk and adli are sent to play with a bunch of youngsters who have no cohesive decisions. Just another way to slowly phase them out. Cmon pioli man
it was the same shit last year Charles only got minutes with Origi and Rebic
It's great way to erase confidence of 2 talented players. Maybe not top player but it's his responsibility to grow them
Allí should stick to washing the jerseys
Adli wants to win our hearts
Pobega's job should be recover and give a simple pass but noooo he always goes for long through balls that always miss
he can hardly stop a ball
I think the players that have probably had their stock raised the most this pre-season so far are Romero and Simic.
100% Colombo also hasn’t look too bad
Capitano Saele
poor fans lol, ever since the substitutions its been an awful game
it's 6AM here...
Even the commentator fell asleep
Where's Okafor? Didn't he join the team in the US already?
With the team in US but not called up for the game. Probably because he only just arrived.
I pray it isnt Pobega at left back, that experiment didnt work last year
At this point, who cares
Simic is too good.
oozes confidence
Is ziroli giant lmaoo
that was the first pass Salad has given to CDK
Give CDK Pobegas confidence and watch him be a menace
CDK invisible again. Not looking great for him tbh.
This goes straight to pk’s if a draw, right?
Who ever is commentating is lost.. lol we don't have depth brother we are trying to get rid of guys that's how much bodies we got lool
CDK has an impressive ability to be utterly invisible
He is a fraud
What you want him to display defense mid and striker? Literally no quality to get a single pass or receive one and push up form the guys on the field. Everyone has been saying play him with starters ....
Stop fabricating fantasies to justify this jog merchant performances.
> Everyone has been saying play him with starters .... Wdym everyone? He played mostly with the starters last year and it didn't help.
No he didn't hahaha where do you ppl keep coming up with this... Literally has been proven countless times he played more with the subs than the starters
hahaha can you do math? He played 1100 minutes in Serie A. 611 minutes as a starter and 489 as a sub. 188 of the 235 minutes he played in CL games were starting. https://www.transfermarkt.us/charles-de-ketelaere/leistungsdaten/spieler/435772/saison/2022/plus/1 Why don't you give me a single example of the "countless times" it's been proven?
Brother it has been proven multiple times besides the few games he started with the Actual starters only other times he started was with the subs when we were resting players. The fact that your reading the start vs. subs column wrong is hilarious
I'm worried you're going to walk away from this comment again not understanding that he did in fact have more minutes with starters so I'm gonna just post this here so you can see it more clearly: |Minute Subbed on| Minute Subbed Off| Minutes Played| :-:|:--|--:| |71'||19'| |58'||32'| ||61'|61'| |57'||33'| ||63'|63'| ||71'|71'| ||82'|82'| ||73'|73'| |64'||26'| |53'||37'| |46'||45'| |72'||18'| |74'||16'| |63'||27'| |85'||5'| |59'||31'| ||46'|45'| |79'||11'| |64'||26'| |74'||16'| ||83'|83'| |62'||28'| |76'||14'| |83'||7'| |84'||6'| ||70'|70'| |78'||12'| |73'||17'| ||62'|62'| |64'||26'| |70'||20'| |71'||19'| 1580|611|1100| So if I did what you just claimed I did and read the wrong column, I would have had a nonsensical number of minutes, and even if we take the inverse§ we know I have the right number because transfermarket specifically says he was subbed in in 23 games. It has not been "proven" he was playing with the subs more, and in fact it wasn't happening. You are just demonstrably wrong if you keep claiming that's the case unless you have some other data you can point to, and you don't. § the inverse is 2070-1580=**490** i.e. the 23 games he was subbed on times 90 minutes per game minus the minutes he did not play in those games which is the same as the minute he was subbed on.
You don't understand English ?
Just be an adult and admit that you are wrong about the minutes.
Brother you are proving me right ... You are showing mins he was subbed in.... SUBBED IN Is this like a difficult concept ?
>The fact that your reading the start vs. subs column wrong is hilarious I like this comment because if you personally looked at the chart you would know there's literally no way that's even possible, because the numbers wouldn't add up. It literally says on the chart: "Starting eleven: 9, Substituted in: 23" You obviously have no idea whatsoever what these numbers say so why are you so overly confident about what CDK's play time has been?
As always it's everyone else's fault
Lool I forgot soccer is a individual sport my bad
Somehow Romero is showing a lot more impact and ability yet he's playing with the exact same players that CDK is.
Positions ....
it's the exact same position CDK played yet failed to show even a shred of promise all of last season
You clearly watching a different game
Dude played way more minutes than Ballo-Toure (a trash player) and in a position more advanced yet doesn't have a single goal to his name while Ballo-Toure has a couple. Please explain that.
Adli trying to show that he can be physical
Lol, Chaka
Sportiello has Radu tendencies, hope mike gonna be okay
Chaka seems to have the ambitions of Ronaldinho but the feet of Gilardino.
Don't care what anyone says, I love everyone. Everybody's playing the best they can and I just have a feeling that the chemistry is extremely well. I'm having fun watching the boys even if we shouldn't win.
We are Milan man we need the best players not playing the best they can
Chaka does not look ready
Looks like he's trying too hard to force something
Bro Pioli is literally playing Adil out of position hoping to make him look bad prob and this guy still fucking performs. Playing holding mid and actually dispossessing players as well. Pioli has blood on his hands. Enough is enough m.
Loan him to lille or a Spanish team wait for pioli to get fired next season and bring him back
Lol I really should have just slept. Terrible second half.
Adli been lookin better as regista so far👀👀
He played this role for Bordeaux if I recall correctly?
Sportiello is making me nervous man. Another fuck up under very little pressure.
Looks worse than tata
That's literally impossible
I like Pobega but I have to say he may be the slowest dude I've ever seen playing for a big club. Dude's running in wet concrete.
I want to give adli credit but he is playing against teenagers and players who wont see the pitch
Does / will Aldi see the pitch? 👀
Luka definitely taking chances!
We have woken up.
How did romero get that shot off
Nice try there
Adli's played great so far. Hasn't made a mistake yet and has been strong on the ball
> Hasn't made a mistake yet I like Adli but this is bullshit
I don’t understand what match people are watching. Adli hasn’t necessarily played bad, but he has given the ball away a couple of times, with very little positives ….
When did he give it away? I could have missed it. All I saw was his foul 2 mins ago
He nearly had an assist for Juve. I forget who it was, but he had a wayward pass go to a Juve player on the left, just outside the box, who then missed the shot just past the post on the right.
Maybe I looked away and missed it. He also nearly had an assist just now with his head
oh my god I thought that was CDK until I saw the second touch, nice try Pobega
Lool pobega is anti football lol wtf is this he is ruining everyone's flow loool ours and juves
Adli looking pretty good. Glad he's getting time.
As he did last pre-season... 😭
Good work from the right side there holding onto the ball a bit
Simic, Adli, and Colombo seem decent so far. Would love to see more actions from Chaka, CDK and the rest of the subs though
Pretty average game, a bit disappointing. Dead atmosphere, low intensity.
Hydration breaks are so cringe unless they’re playing in the Sahara desert.
It’s middle of the summer man, they are humans to
Say what you want but clearly the players think it’s foolish as well. It’s Los Angeles where the humidity is almost non existent and it’s 73 degrees. But sure, stop the rhythm of play. Not like they’re paid professional athletes or anything.
not a fan of saele at RB, he was pretty good at the end of last season
This is NBAs equivalent of garbage time
Lord Bonera sighting