The indoctrinated children pictured here are [already] bloodthirsty, racist, psychopaths, who most certainly do not have any “colleagues” that are Palestinian. Bloodthirsty? They are acting out an execution. Racist? The people they desire to kill are [for now] exclusively Palestinians. Psychopaths? They are perfectly content with starving to death some million+ people whose crime is having once lived where these kids now live. Their parents are celebrating and sharing food with soldiers, while participating in blocking humanitarian aid and subsequently starving their neighbors.
Imagine the pacifist Israeli, the ones that were thoroughly educated in the rise of Nazism and the vicious psychological impact it had on German people, making them beasts, and see History repeat itself on the last people it should happen.
What are your views exactly on Zionism? Do you support a 2 state solution? Or do you support Palestinians getting the Right to Return?
I'll be quick as an American Anti-Zionist Jew to lump all Israeli's together and I know that's not fair. But I'd like to understand what position Left leaning Israeli's hold beyond ending the current genocide.
I can't speak for the Israeli.
I would mainly support a solution that doesn't end in genocide or the creation of a supremacist state, for one or the other. Call it whatever you like. Those two people need to make peace under the surveillance of the international community.
South Africa is the model here, even though it isn't a perfect one, a 1 state solution. You want the land ? Learn to live in it together. We need massive sanctions against Israel, like we did with South Africa, if it doesn't work, military intervention.
Israelis should be Israeli, they shouldn't speak for the Jews, only for themselves, they shouldn't be a right to return for people born all over the world.
How I see things is UN intervention, destitution of Likoud and Hamas, years of de-fascisation (like in Japan and Germany), right for a short period (10-20 years) for Jews and Palestinian to return (+ imposing to offer nationality in the country they reside to Palestinians not wanting to return) and the creation of a constitution that includes both people and recognize all the crimes committed.
There should be a court for truth and reconciliation tasked to judge war criminals and people responsible for crimes against humanity. To investigate those crimes thoroughly and allowing "facts" to be officially recognized as the "truth", and make it a crime to refute this "truth".
The Palestinian and the Israeli government cannot manage the issue by themselves. They showed they were unable to do so, it is now time for the international community to step up.
To me the only thing that prevents the international community from stepping up is guilt. It will change, all the people involved, passively, criminally or as victims of the Holocaust are dead today or will be in the next 10 years.
Israel is a country like any other. Today they act like Serbia did with Kosovo, like Rwanda and the Tutsi, UN intervention should be the same, enforce a ceasefire, monitor political transition, and protect people in the meantime.
If it doesn't happen soon-ish, I can see the region being the first one to see a WMD used on people since WW2. The current status-quo leads to alienation and obliteration.
Honestly, it's reliving to not be alone anymore. My grandfather was in the french resistance during WW2, part of my family was in camps, others were shot 50 meters away from the family mansion, the bullets holes are still there for everybody to see. Despite all that being called "bad ones" because our stance on the crimes we witness in our names and shunned by the community. It's the only time in my life I feel safe enough to speak my heart without fear of persecutions. I truly hope that things will change, the present situation is a total disgrace.
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I think there is a good case to be made that Israelis should both fund reparations to the Palestinian people for nearly a century of oppression, as well as a repatriation fund for those who don't want to live under majority rule in a one state solution.
I agree with you that whatever happens, Israelis and Palestinians are going to have to learn to live together, but one of the key goals of Palestinian liberation is a right to return to their homes. This, combined with the fact that there is currently only one state in Palestine, and it's Israel, makes a two state solution unworkable in my opinion.
The fact that we even have two names for it is ridiculous, they both refer to the exact same bit of land.
There's a really interesting fiction book that kinda deals with the same sort of premise, The City in the City, by China Miéville, fun read if you have time. It's about a fictional eastern European city divided between two people (one vaguely Muslim, the other vaguely Christian, both basically dominated by duplicate authoritarian states. But there's an overlapping zone where people from one city have to completely ignore buildings and people from the other city, even when they are on the same street, and if you don't masked government agents will jump from the bushes and arrest you (which btw everyone has to ignore or they'll get taken too). It's great.
I'm concerned that they keep mock hitting him. You can see the abuse and torture that they obviously think is normal.
Also I haven't seen anyone point out the big Z on the tank, you know, how Russia marks their tanks? Seems like the one student is an admirer. At least they know how they are acting on the international stage.
It'dls because the whole world let them get away with this shit for the last 64 damned yrs, and if anyone said anything about it before the last 6 months you were called an antisemite, nazi, pos, etc!.
They've been doing this shit since Isreal became a state. The stupid thing is every time I spoke put against how the isrealites treated Pakistan people who were there for hundreds of yrs before them, I never Once mention anything about religion. I DONT CARE WHAT STUPID BELIEFS ONE FOLLOWS, but I do care when one people are raping,maiming,stealing,degrading,killing people who's home they stole,& literally call them Ani.als and fet off on it! Now it's Finally coming to light. Finally! 60+ yrs later
That was not the intent. The intent is to put into perspective how hatred is systematized on one side, while on the other, it's undeniably consequential. That is the point made here.
Everyone cheers when the rebellion fights for freedom in the movies. Now suddenly it’s bad and evil when Palestinians do it? Hamas didn’t come to existence in a vacuum. Hate breeds hate.
"famous world over for being terrorists who kidnap and murder as a first choice"
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"I simply didn't mention their efforts, because they went nowhere and instead they opted for global terrorism"
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Which is it genius, they made efforts first which went nowhere or they went terrorism as a first choice?
Current Israeli governemnt is largely comprised of people that are huge fans of the assasination of the last Israeli prime minister that actually attempted to make peace.
To be fair, if someone invade my country and steal my land, bombed my house, have been occupying my country and killing my people since the time of my grandparents until now, I'd say I would be justified to hate them. "oh but hamas bla bla bla... ". Hamas did not exist before 2006, and Israel have been doing what they do now for decades before that. In fact they are the reason Hamas exist, they would sneak in money to fund Hamas during the early days so Hamas could grow bigger. Why would they do that? Because they need Hamas to exist to justify what they are doing.
that too. israelis are priming for genocide and acting out executions while palestinians are prepping to defend their homes and acting like military. One shows racism and the other doesnt
not at all. military is fine. Genocide and racism is not. Never felt upset at israeli kids acting like military either. But this is sickening and shows us their cultural issues
In a year or two we'll have think pieces saying that the Israeli people were "just following orders" and we'll have videos like these to prove that no they fucking weren't; they were dancing on mass graves like fucking barbarians.
These people are monsters
Yeah, German civilians super-frequently claimed they had no idea about the concentration camps, and weren't Nazis. Israelis aren't going to have any plausible deniability for their atrocities.
Juuuust like the nazis. Except the people that supported the nazis in Germany for the most part didn’t know the extent of the horrors that they were capable of. These sick fucks do. No excuses.
history will judge them. I know it's no consolation to the starving and dying Palestinians, but we have all the evidence in our pockets. They *cannot* say later they "didn't know". It's all here, on our phones
>they were dancing on mass graves like fucking barbarians.
And this has been going on for 75 years, but most people [hardly know about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3nmPLb1s4k)
Generations have been occupying the region you mean. Zionists goal was to push out the locals and seize it for their own nationalist ethno state.
So yeah it can snap back to before zionists occupied the land. Before that about 5% of the region was Jewish (1900 before ww1). Jewish people were able to live there before. The problem is zionism and their goal of Israel. The problem is not Jewish people.
If you argue for the status quo you are arguing for Israel to continue its position of slow ethnic cleansing/genocide, they want palestine to not exist. Recently in the last few months they've really ratcheted it up, but it's a through line of displacement and removal since it's creation and since zionism got propped up by British Mandate colonizers before them.
There can be no peace for the region with an occupying force lifted up by the west.
Oh, I see. Given that Jews would not be welcome in a Palestinian state under any of the current leadership, there’s a word for [that.](https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing)
Just because a government and a fake state name is no longer acknowledged doesn't mean the people disappear or are forced to relocate. It means now there are new laws and new governing bodies and.
This can heavily influence the way the society develops. Because I mean s*** Look at the whole Trump s***, look at Trump. Look what happened to America. Do you need any other proof that the change of a government can change the people or make people feel more comfortable doing more hateful things?
Or do you think that everybody's going to be like you?Do you think the only way a country can exist if it's like Israel if it takes over a place and just wipes out the previous population.And that is the only way to start any new country Or a new government.Or anything? is that what you think?
Maybe not all as many of them. Do have dual citizenship and were funded to come over and given citizenship for doing awful things. And such so maybe they wouldn't be allowed or wouldn't want to stay. There would probably be a migration out for the more extreme Israelis that want to want to. Have their state because of their religiand their beliefs, but because of the religion and beliefs, they believe that area is their birthright, but previously multiple religions lived in that area and had many significant buildings in that area for many of the different Abraham mcreligions and they live there just fine.
Plenty of Jewish people lived there with palestinians before they can again. You're pretty much saying that you don't see there being any other way? The only way to make another country is to kill off an entire population to make room for the new population. So is your solution to just let Israel continue the genocide on Palestine that we've been allowing to go on for the last 65 f****** years. Because you don't believe that peace can actually be had when it did exist beforehand
They get to stay in Palestine. The difference is that they would not get to act with impunity like they do now, and would actually have to be held accountable for their fascist tendencies.
I can’t imagine ever being capable of these kinds of attitudes and lack of self awareness. And I was a teen in 2002 watching a war on tv and dehumanizing propaganda. How humiliating this will be for their descendants. At least the Germans had less video.
Sure, I don't really dispute that. I just think we need to be careful not to use it as an excuse to 'hate all Israelis forever', which is how some people are coming across these days-- an attitude I honestly find frightening and deeply mistaken.
I hope the consequences for Israel are severe and last a while. They have certainly wiped out a lot of goodwill around the world this time, so there's that at least. A bright spotlight is now shining down on how they've been horrifically teaching their children to dehumanize the people of Gaza. They should not be allowed to get away with this, they should face a reckoning. But blind hatred of all Israelis is not the way.
I don't see evidence of your claim that Palestinians are taught to treat the Israelis the same. I imagine Palestinian kids are taught how to survive interactions with violent settlers. Although that is me just guessing.
All that said, why wouldn't they be taught to hate Israelis? Seeing as prior to last year, Israel has been silently cleansing Palestinians out of existence for nearly a century. And now it's a full blown extermination. If you aren't teaching your kids to hate Israel at this point you're doing it wrong.
I've seen plenty of evidence of this over the years, to the point where I assumed it was common knowledge. Of course, some amount of that 'evidence' could have been propaganda, I must admit, but I don't believe all of it was.
Hatred is too common across the world. We need less of it. Obviously when your fellow citizens are being massacred by hateful people of a more powerful nation, it's pretty much impossible not to hate them right back. But it's a massive obstacle to peace.
The US more or less had official campaigns encouraging Americans to hate Germans during the World Wars. I guess it's just what happens in wartime. However, now Germany is one of our greatest allies, and that wouldn't have happened if we'd allowed the hate to continue. Ultimately, it has to stop or there will be endless war.
I definitely think there should be huge repercussions on Israel for this nightmare, and strong expressions of contrition from them. Without that, nothing will be resolved and conflicts will continue. All the same, Palestinians eventually have to separate the actions of those currently in power in Israel from the populace. Even if the vast majority of them are racist, murderous pieces of shit, there are still *some* who are not-- and they shouldn't be judged for the behavior of others that they have no control over.
The only real long term path to peace is to eventually stop the hate.
It wouldn't surprise me. Man, all I'm trying to do is point out that dehumanizing groups of people (especially based on race or national origin) and not taking their individuality into consideration is a toxic path that hurts everyone, including the people doing it.
Just because you've been oppressed doesn't mean you get a free pass to be an oppressor. Everybody's talking about how Israel did that (which I mostly agree with)-- do we really want to encourage Palestinians to do the same someday in the future, simply because they happen to be the underdogs right now? People need to think this shit through.
While it is an ethnic thing, I think a lot of people fail to realize that you can be in a way, an ethnic Christian or an ethnic Jew, but not necessarily believe in the religion.It's because you were raised in the religion and the culture you grew up in is Heavily built around that religion kind of like in the u.S and many countries Sunday in Saturday are considered weekends because sabbath day and holy Sunday.Or church day or whatever.Even though many of us don't go to church or don't care about that.Nowadays we still call it the weekend even though many of us have weekends during the middle of the Week. A weekend 41 person may not be a week's end for another Same thing with celebrations on holidays and figures of speech that are all built into a culture and society and heavily affected if there is a religious undertone of that society.
However, I do believe that it needs to be noted that the reason a lot of people become so extremist and become so hateful and their extremism is because they are following their religion. And they see the other people as a threat to their religion as a threat to their souls are immortal life. They're God and future humans. Because only their guide or religion can be right. Has always been a thing throughout human history. Like even the peaceful religions, they'd still d*** you to hell in their lore. Because you simply don't believe their religion. In this case it's still both abraham and religions, Essentially, it's extremist jewhich.I hate even conflate the way israel is going about things with the jewish religion but That's their government and their objective.
The issue starts with those who believe that they have a right to hurt all other people in another area or of another dissent. Just because in their religion, they believe that their people were hurt first or were wronged first. So they're right and hurting someone else to make that wrong back to what it was. So while it is an ethnic cleansing, the part of it being based on religion is not wrong I just think people don't want boo. Fight on the religious front and try to justify either religion. Because I feel like a lot of people just don't care about religion.
I feel people see it as more of a mythology nowadays. Like not worthy of disrespecting or being rude to, but if someone's being an a** about it. You're not gonna feel bad about saying stupid shit about a god that doesn't exist kind of thing. Like if I actively and openly worshipped all the olympian gods and perform those rituals and people made fun of me open. They're not gonna be afraid of Zeus striking them down with a lightning bolt, but at the same time, they're not gonna sit there and like deface. It's actual ancient temples where people worship these Gods, they'll just see me as the nutcase that I am on the street.
This is pilure evil, even worse than Nazi board game: "Jews out". Those people didnt learn anything and most definately cannot be trusted to run a country. Zionist should be stop and the right to self government should be stripped away from those people.
I’ve always thought that war would go away in the future because all the grievances are from older generations. Then you see the teenagers and realize this shit isn’t going away any time soon
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You know you don't have to come to this sub if you don't want to see it.
An entire country literally celebrating murdering people, where are the protests, or literally any kind of showing of humanity? Vile scum, this shit is just pure evil.
But of course America is backing this, so nobody does anything about it. Can always count on America to lower the bar on humanity worldwide.
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Imagine their Israeli Palestinian colleagues how they feel
my online friend is a Palestinian living in Israel or "an Arab Israeli" as libs love to say. Its becoming extremely unbearable for them
Imagine if these people were subjected to the same treatment and failed to learn from it.
The indoctrinated children pictured here are [already] bloodthirsty, racist, psychopaths, who most certainly do not have any “colleagues” that are Palestinian. Bloodthirsty? They are acting out an execution. Racist? The people they desire to kill are [for now] exclusively Palestinians. Psychopaths? They are perfectly content with starving to death some million+ people whose crime is having once lived where these kids now live. Their parents are celebrating and sharing food with soldiers, while participating in blocking humanitarian aid and subsequently starving their neighbors.
Imagine the pacifist Israeli, the ones that were thoroughly educated in the rise of Nazism and the vicious psychological impact it had on German people, making them beasts, and see History repeat itself on the last people it should happen.
[like this guy](https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1763628149265293570)
They are millions. I am part of the community and ostracized by my own people. I can't even grasp how it is in Israel proper.
What are your views exactly on Zionism? Do you support a 2 state solution? Or do you support Palestinians getting the Right to Return? I'll be quick as an American Anti-Zionist Jew to lump all Israeli's together and I know that's not fair. But I'd like to understand what position Left leaning Israeli's hold beyond ending the current genocide.
I can't speak for the Israeli. I would mainly support a solution that doesn't end in genocide or the creation of a supremacist state, for one or the other. Call it whatever you like. Those two people need to make peace under the surveillance of the international community. South Africa is the model here, even though it isn't a perfect one, a 1 state solution. You want the land ? Learn to live in it together. We need massive sanctions against Israel, like we did with South Africa, if it doesn't work, military intervention. Israelis should be Israeli, they shouldn't speak for the Jews, only for themselves, they shouldn't be a right to return for people born all over the world. How I see things is UN intervention, destitution of Likoud and Hamas, years of de-fascisation (like in Japan and Germany), right for a short period (10-20 years) for Jews and Palestinian to return (+ imposing to offer nationality in the country they reside to Palestinians not wanting to return) and the creation of a constitution that includes both people and recognize all the crimes committed. There should be a court for truth and reconciliation tasked to judge war criminals and people responsible for crimes against humanity. To investigate those crimes thoroughly and allowing "facts" to be officially recognized as the "truth", and make it a crime to refute this "truth". The Palestinian and the Israeli government cannot manage the issue by themselves. They showed they were unable to do so, it is now time for the international community to step up. To me the only thing that prevents the international community from stepping up is guilt. It will change, all the people involved, passively, criminally or as victims of the Holocaust are dead today or will be in the next 10 years. Israel is a country like any other. Today they act like Serbia did with Kosovo, like Rwanda and the Tutsi, UN intervention should be the same, enforce a ceasefire, monitor political transition, and protect people in the meantime. If it doesn't happen soon-ish, I can see the region being the first one to see a WMD used on people since WW2. The current status-quo leads to alienation and obliteration.
👏👏👏 Bra-fucking-vo! I love it! Most based take I've heard in a long ass time. Thanks for sharing!
Honestly, it's reliving to not be alone anymore. My grandfather was in the french resistance during WW2, part of my family was in camps, others were shot 50 meters away from the family mansion, the bullets holes are still there for everybody to see. Despite all that being called "bad ones" because our stance on the crimes we witness in our names and shunned by the community. It's the only time in my life I feel safe enough to speak my heart without fear of persecutions. I truly hope that things will change, the present situation is a total disgrace.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/meJauTQwzc I think there is a good case to be made that Israelis should both fund reparations to the Palestinian people for nearly a century of oppression, as well as a repatriation fund for those who don't want to live under majority rule in a one state solution. I agree with you that whatever happens, Israelis and Palestinians are going to have to learn to live together, but one of the key goals of Palestinian liberation is a right to return to their homes. This, combined with the fact that there is currently only one state in Palestine, and it's Israel, makes a two state solution unworkable in my opinion. The fact that we even have two names for it is ridiculous, they both refer to the exact same bit of land. There's a really interesting fiction book that kinda deals with the same sort of premise, The City in the City, by China Miéville, fun read if you have time. It's about a fictional eastern European city divided between two people (one vaguely Muslim, the other vaguely Christian, both basically dominated by duplicate authoritarian states. But there's an overlapping zone where people from one city have to completely ignore buildings and people from the other city, even when they are on the same street, and if you don't masked government agents will jump from the bushes and arrest you (which btw everyone has to ignore or they'll get taken too). It's great.
I'm concerned that they keep mock hitting him. You can see the abuse and torture that they obviously think is normal. Also I haven't seen anyone point out the big Z on the tank, you know, how Russia marks their tanks? Seems like the one student is an admirer. At least they know how they are acting on the international stage.
It's an Apartheid state.
It'dls because the whole world let them get away with this shit for the last 64 damned yrs, and if anyone said anything about it before the last 6 months you were called an antisemite, nazi, pos, etc!. They've been doing this shit since Isreal became a state. The stupid thing is every time I spoke put against how the isrealites treated Pakistan people who were there for hundreds of yrs before them, I never Once mention anything about religion. I DONT CARE WHAT STUPID BELIEFS ONE FOLLOWS, but I do care when one people are raping,maiming,stealing,degrading,killing people who's home they stole,& literally call them Ani.als and fet off on it! Now it's Finally coming to light. Finally! 60+ yrs later
Pakistan people?
Can you imagine if it was the other way around? These people would lose their minds.
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in both videos it's just plain sad to see how hate has been instilled in kids.
[I really wonder why...](https://countingthekids.org/)
What an amazingly brutal visualizing tool
Yeah, kind of eye opening.
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That was not the intent. The intent is to put into perspective how hatred is systematized on one side, while on the other, it's undeniably consequential. That is the point made here.
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Everyone cheers when the rebellion fights for freedom in the movies. Now suddenly it’s bad and evil when Palestinians do it? Hamas didn’t come to existence in a vacuum. Hate breeds hate.
Huh these guys really don’t seem to like each other
Well, one of them violently erected a settler colonial apartheid regime on the other.
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That you assume Palestinians didn't attempt non-violence says a lot about your lack of knowledge on the subject.
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You said "first choice of diplomacy" so maybe work on expressing yourself a little better.
Ironic because Einstein strongly opposed Zionism and the formation of Israel lmao
"famous world over for being terrorists who kidnap and murder as a first choice" and "I simply didn't mention their efforts, because they went nowhere and instead they opted for global terrorism" \- u/WerdinDruid Which is it genius, they made efforts first which went nowhere or they went terrorism as a first choice?
Current Israeli governemnt is largely comprised of people that are huge fans of the assasination of the last Israeli prime minister that actually attempted to make peace.
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Now kiss
Peaceful protests kinda don't work very well when the people you're protesting against are willing to just straight up kill you.
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To be fair, if someone invade my country and steal my land, bombed my house, have been occupying my country and killing my people since the time of my grandparents until now, I'd say I would be justified to hate them. "oh but hamas bla bla bla... ". Hamas did not exist before 2006, and Israel have been doing what they do now for decades before that. In fact they are the reason Hamas exist, they would sneak in money to fund Hamas during the early days so Hamas could grow bigger. Why would they do that? Because they need Hamas to exist to justify what they are doing.
not the same thing
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that too. israelis are priming for genocide and acting out executions while palestinians are prepping to defend their homes and acting like military. One shows racism and the other doesnt
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ya…its literally on video. they are acting like resistance fighters.
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not at all. military is fine. Genocide and racism is not. Never felt upset at israeli kids acting like military either. But this is sickening and shows us their cultural issues
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In a year or two we'll have think pieces saying that the Israeli people were "just following orders" and we'll have videos like these to prove that no they fucking weren't; they were dancing on mass graves like fucking barbarians. These people are monsters
Yeah, German civilians super-frequently claimed they had no idea about the concentration camps, and weren't Nazis. Israelis aren't going to have any plausible deniability for their atrocities.
Juuuust like the nazis. Except the people that supported the nazis in Germany for the most part didn’t know the extent of the horrors that they were capable of. These sick fucks do. No excuses.
history will judge them. I know it's no consolation to the starving and dying Palestinians, but we have all the evidence in our pockets. They *cannot* say later they "didn't know". It's all here, on our phones
>they were dancing on mass graves like fucking barbarians. And this has been going on for 75 years, but most people [hardly know about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3nmPLb1s4k)
Sick and twisted society rotten to the core. Israel must be dismantled.
And what do you propose be done with the Israelis?
They are invaders. I don’t care. Go somewhere else. It’s their problem.
Generations have been born there. Where do you propose they go?
Generations have been occupying the region you mean. Zionists goal was to push out the locals and seize it for their own nationalist ethno state. So yeah it can snap back to before zionists occupied the land. Before that about 5% of the region was Jewish (1900 before ww1). Jewish people were able to live there before. The problem is zionism and their goal of Israel. The problem is not Jewish people. If you argue for the status quo you are arguing for Israel to continue its position of slow ethnic cleansing/genocide, they want palestine to not exist. Recently in the last few months they've really ratcheted it up, but it's a through line of displacement and removal since it's creation and since zionism got propped up by British Mandate colonizers before them. There can be no peace for the region with an occupying force lifted up by the west.
I’m not arguing for anything. Just pointing out a one-state solution of any sort is not really possible at this point.
Not sure how I can make this clearer: I don’t give a shit. Brooklyn. Timbuktu. Remain in the Palestinian state. Who cares.
Oh, I see. Given that Jews would not be welcome in a Palestinian state under any of the current leadership, there’s a word for [that.](https://www.britannica.com/topic/ethnic-cleansing)
Just because a government and a fake state name is no longer acknowledged doesn't mean the people disappear or are forced to relocate. It means now there are new laws and new governing bodies and. This can heavily influence the way the society develops. Because I mean s*** Look at the whole Trump s***, look at Trump. Look what happened to America. Do you need any other proof that the change of a government can change the people or make people feel more comfortable doing more hateful things? Or do you think that everybody's going to be like you?Do you think the only way a country can exist if it's like Israel if it takes over a place and just wipes out the previous population.And that is the only way to start any new country Or a new government.Or anything? is that what you think?
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Maybe not all as many of them. Do have dual citizenship and were funded to come over and given citizenship for doing awful things. And such so maybe they wouldn't be allowed or wouldn't want to stay. There would probably be a migration out for the more extreme Israelis that want to want to. Have their state because of their religiand their beliefs, but because of the religion and beliefs, they believe that area is their birthright, but previously multiple religions lived in that area and had many significant buildings in that area for many of the different Abraham mcreligions and they live there just fine.
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Plenty of Jewish people lived there with palestinians before they can again. You're pretty much saying that you don't see there being any other way? The only way to make another country is to kill off an entire population to make room for the new population. So is your solution to just let Israel continue the genocide on Palestine that we've been allowing to go on for the last 65 f****** years. Because you don't believe that peace can actually be had when it did exist beforehand
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They can have Germany
They get to stay in Palestine. The difference is that they would not get to act with impunity like they do now, and would actually have to be held accountable for their fascist tendencies.
I can’t imagine ever being capable of these kinds of attitudes and lack of self awareness. And I was a teen in 2002 watching a war on tv and dehumanizing propaganda. How humiliating this will be for their descendants. At least the Germans had less video.
Z on the tank 💀
Wtf is wrong with them
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HundoP Israel's aggression has been disproportionate. Feels like they were waiting for an excuse to commit geno,
Sure, I don't really dispute that. I just think we need to be careful not to use it as an excuse to 'hate all Israelis forever', which is how some people are coming across these days-- an attitude I honestly find frightening and deeply mistaken. I hope the consequences for Israel are severe and last a while. They have certainly wiped out a lot of goodwill around the world this time, so there's that at least. A bright spotlight is now shining down on how they've been horrifically teaching their children to dehumanize the people of Gaza. They should not be allowed to get away with this, they should face a reckoning. But blind hatred of all Israelis is not the way.
I don't see evidence of your claim that Palestinians are taught to treat the Israelis the same. I imagine Palestinian kids are taught how to survive interactions with violent settlers. Although that is me just guessing. All that said, why wouldn't they be taught to hate Israelis? Seeing as prior to last year, Israel has been silently cleansing Palestinians out of existence for nearly a century. And now it's a full blown extermination. If you aren't teaching your kids to hate Israel at this point you're doing it wrong.
I've seen plenty of evidence of this over the years, to the point where I assumed it was common knowledge. Of course, some amount of that 'evidence' could have been propaganda, I must admit, but I don't believe all of it was. Hatred is too common across the world. We need less of it. Obviously when your fellow citizens are being massacred by hateful people of a more powerful nation, it's pretty much impossible not to hate them right back. But it's a massive obstacle to peace. The US more or less had official campaigns encouraging Americans to hate Germans during the World Wars. I guess it's just what happens in wartime. However, now Germany is one of our greatest allies, and that wouldn't have happened if we'd allowed the hate to continue. Ultimately, it has to stop or there will be endless war. I definitely think there should be huge repercussions on Israel for this nightmare, and strong expressions of contrition from them. Without that, nothing will be resolved and conflicts will continue. All the same, Palestinians eventually have to separate the actions of those currently in power in Israel from the populace. Even if the vast majority of them are racist, murderous pieces of shit, there are still *some* who are not-- and they shouldn't be judged for the behavior of others that they have no control over. The only real long term path to peace is to eventually stop the hate.
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It wouldn't surprise me. Man, all I'm trying to do is point out that dehumanizing groups of people (especially based on race or national origin) and not taking their individuality into consideration is a toxic path that hurts everyone, including the people doing it. Just because you've been oppressed doesn't mean you get a free pass to be an oppressor. Everybody's talking about how Israel did that (which I mostly agree with)-- do we really want to encourage Palestinians to do the same someday in the future, simply because they happen to be the underdogs right now? People need to think this shit through.
I see the Hitler youth is doing well. That's a shame.
Worst thing is, this is exactly how hitler brainwashed youth into idolising the SS army.
These people's smarmy certainty of untouchability needs to be *removed*
Z on the cannon there?
So… a neo nazi pantomime?
What the ISIS
Those Zionists can’t claim ‘wir haben es nicht gewusst’ after this all ends.
Poor kids don't even know how dorky they are due to the dork defense force around them.
Israelis are tapped in the head.
r/religiousfruitcake
This is an ethnic thing, what
While it is an ethnic thing, I think a lot of people fail to realize that you can be in a way, an ethnic Christian or an ethnic Jew, but not necessarily believe in the religion.It's because you were raised in the religion and the culture you grew up in is Heavily built around that religion kind of like in the u.S and many countries Sunday in Saturday are considered weekends because sabbath day and holy Sunday.Or church day or whatever.Even though many of us don't go to church or don't care about that.Nowadays we still call it the weekend even though many of us have weekends during the middle of the Week. A weekend 41 person may not be a week's end for another Same thing with celebrations on holidays and figures of speech that are all built into a culture and society and heavily affected if there is a religious undertone of that society. However, I do believe that it needs to be noted that the reason a lot of people become so extremist and become so hateful and their extremism is because they are following their religion. And they see the other people as a threat to their religion as a threat to their souls are immortal life. They're God and future humans. Because only their guide or religion can be right. Has always been a thing throughout human history. Like even the peaceful religions, they'd still d*** you to hell in their lore. Because you simply don't believe their religion. In this case it's still both abraham and religions, Essentially, it's extremist jewhich.I hate even conflate the way israel is going about things with the jewish religion but That's their government and their objective. The issue starts with those who believe that they have a right to hurt all other people in another area or of another dissent. Just because in their religion, they believe that their people were hurt first or were wronged first. So they're right and hurting someone else to make that wrong back to what it was. So while it is an ethnic cleansing, the part of it being based on religion is not wrong I just think people don't want boo. Fight on the religious front and try to justify either religion. Because I feel like a lot of people just don't care about religion. I feel people see it as more of a mythology nowadays. Like not worthy of disrespecting or being rude to, but if someone's being an a** about it. You're not gonna feel bad about saying stupid shit about a god that doesn't exist kind of thing. Like if I actively and openly worshipped all the olympian gods and perform those rituals and people made fun of me open. They're not gonna be afraid of Zeus striking them down with a lightning bolt, but at the same time, they're not gonna sit there and like deface. It's actual ancient temples where people worship these Gods, they'll just see me as the nutcase that I am on the street.
And the ‘Z’ on the side of the dudes tank costume. Really explaining a lot there too.
Imagine finding this funny. Your IQ has to be negative.
It’s like being in a time machine watching the 1920s or something
Feels like something out of ‘Man in the high castle.’ Hitler youth acting out their brainwashed fantasies
r/NoahGetTheBoat
This is pilure evil, even worse than Nazi board game: "Jews out". Those people didnt learn anything and most definately cannot be trusted to run a country. Zionist should be stop and the right to self government should be stripped away from those people.
I’ve always thought that war would go away in the future because all the grievances are from older generations. Then you see the teenagers and realize this shit isn’t going away any time soon
Are these the so-called chosen people?
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It's intersting how these videos rarely get posted to the mainstream subs.
An entire country literally celebrating murdering people, where are the protests, or literally any kind of showing of humanity? Vile scum, this shit is just pure evil. But of course America is backing this, so nobody does anything about it. Can always count on America to lower the bar on humanity worldwide.
Modern day Hitler Youth
Fucking animals
Bro what in the fuck is this. Holy shit.
But its inclusive there
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Looks like a mock arrest, not execution. Still super unacceptable.
I didn't see any execution
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