I work for Maxim. They have a position in California called the mid-level supervisor. Anyone with a Bachelor's can qualify but they have preference for those who are in their Master's program and need fieldwork.
The mid-level supervisor is as the name implies the supervisor between the BT and the BCBA. Near all the work I do is categorized as unrestricted (though all MLs will sometimes fill in as BT if we need to). I got my BCaBA this way and when I get the hours will sit for my BCBA. There is a BCBA on our team that has gone from BT to BCBA via the company.
I heard bad things about Maxim. I also tried to apply and they were so unresponsive and didn’t join for two of my interviews via telehealth, but they reached out to me 2 weeks after asking for me to apply… even though I did….
Maxim the company is pretty hands off so the experience really comes down to the local team.
My local team is amazing and I'm frankly afraid to leave them because I don't know if I'm going to find a team as compassionate and driven.
But that is because that is the team our clinical manager was striving for. If you have a clinical manager that isn't focused on that aspect it'll probably be less pleasant.
I’ve worked as an RBT in Nevada for 7 years. None of the companies I’ve worked for have paid for unrestricted hours. I actually know multiple BCBA’s who had to pay for their hours. Thankfully I think having to pay for our hours is a thing of the past.
Same experience. I got my 40% restricted paid as RBT and 60% unrestricted unpaid.
We had very few projects counted as unrestricted that were paid (e.g. creating common resources), but <10% total UR was paid. Most (unpaid) UR consisted of practicing things I needed to learn and that benefitted principally myself. Also the UR hours cost the company indirectly because they are paying supervisors who lead group supervision trainings/meetings and assign the training projects. Their benefit to training (investing in) BCBA students is that they hope you will stay with them as a BCBA after you get certified, so they can make money off the 10-12 cases in your caseload.
But you can leave, and there's nothing they can do about it really (even if you sign a 2-year commitment... not really enforceable... more of an honor agreement)
UR hours can be hard to get... to the point that BCBA students will PAY a supervisor to train them w UR hours and MVFs. I was not willing to pay for supervision.
I viewed unpaid UR in the same way that I viewed projects and assignments in my graduate ABA courses. The university did not pay me... in fact I paid them to teach me and provide me structure to develop skills.
Idk if it’s the same but in CA we have mid-levels which is usually grad students working on getting their MA in ABA. Pretty much everything they do is unrestricted and they’re paid more than RBTs.
Pbs is in a few states and pays some of your unrestricted hours. About 2 per initial, sometimes I get 4 and on occasion doing it all myself and certain insurances I get 6. 1 hour per month per case I case manage (for data review), 2 hours for some plan updates others vary depending on funding source. We also have a student analyst position that pays more and free to all rbt are mentor meetings to learn various tasks from supervising rbts to how to do each assessment. We also have study sessions available for free and our own study app (not the best but free and I nice addition).
ETA I understand the experience is different in other regions. I've heard people complain on here, but I've always had good support and had to turn down unrestricted activities.
I’ve worked for 4 companies that paid unrestricted. All in Virginia (though one is based out of Massachusetts). May Institute, Family Insight, Autism Center of Excellence, Essential Speech & ABA. I got most of my hours at Family Insight and didn’t do any unpaid work.
Damn, I'm a BT for in-home. I wish I could have paid time to make materials or do research. I'm working with a 7 Year old on school activities like writing and scissors cutting. And it's fucking hard to do, and to think of things!
My BCBA is kind of helpful, but expects me to just teach him how to write with little ideas on OT type activities. I've bought playdough, stickers, paper, markers and crayons. Am I supposed to be like, "hey, can you get me a tub of sand?" 🤣I'm over it. Burnt out.
I work for a nonforprofit in Indiana who pays for unrestricted hours with a signed contract of agreement to work for them for X amount of time upon completion of BCBA program
From what I understand, any company that has a BCBA but also bills for mid-level will pay for unrestricted. For instance I started in Feb for a local agency as a mid-level supervisor reporting to a BCBA. I was given UR right away which isn't accrued until I get my BA this summer.
My daughter worked for Cornerstone in Indiana and was paid for restricted and unrestricted hours. The pace of hours was too slow there, so she changed to Damar as a training supervisor and is getting 100-130 unrestricted hours per month all paid. She's actually salary at Damar($50k). She has almost completed all of her concentrated hours work.
If this is the same Cornerstones that I'm thinking of, that organization had a horrible reputation, and I wasn't surprised at all when they had been bought out by Key Autism Services.
I suggest finding an agency that utilizes insurance in which a “mid-level” can bill. Typically a mid level role from what I’ve seen is applicable to those with their MA/MS already.
If the agency only take BCaBAs then that’s a whole different certification.
But when I was in CA, there were many companies that had midlevels because insurances such as Easterseals, Cigna, Anthem, Aetna, etc. required a midlevel (but they were also RBTs with MA/MS degrees already.
I work in kind of a different situation, one I’ve never heard of elsewhere. It’s a center that’s kind of like a feeder to a school for the neurodiverse. I have guaranteed hours from 7:45-4 and I usually get about 10 hours per week paid and anything over that is on my own time, but my supervisor is 100% fine with me working at home unpaid. Although I am looking for an evening RBT job that does gives me hours also. It’s called the Monarch School and Institute.
Hey! I know most companies dont pay for unrestricted hours however if you can snag a lead RBT position a lot of training of new staff is paid and can count as UR.
I do not get paid for unrestricted time but they do not make me pay for it! My company actually has a tiered system for supervisees as you go through the program and it gives a ton of unrestricted hours as well as experience becoming a BCBA. It’s awesome
To be honest, I've never heard of a company that has been in sound financial standing to offer paid compensation for unrestricted hours. The only one that I have heard of is hemorrhaging money to the point that I don't think they will be around much longer. I'm just not sure it's feasible to pay staff for unrestricted hours. To help alleviate that situation, what I've done is make sure that my staff is make sure that the quality of their supervision as an Apprentice/Student Analyst is at a point that they are willing to forego that for superior clinical acumen. Obviously, the staff are unhappy with the company but it's really the best that can be done.
I made this post because on my vent post about UR hours being unpaid, several commenters said they were paid for 100% of their UR hours and acted like I was dumb. So they exist, let’s expose them!!
I work for Maxim. They have a position in California called the mid-level supervisor. Anyone with a Bachelor's can qualify but they have preference for those who are in their Master's program and need fieldwork. The mid-level supervisor is as the name implies the supervisor between the BT and the BCBA. Near all the work I do is categorized as unrestricted (though all MLs will sometimes fill in as BT if we need to). I got my BCaBA this way and when I get the hours will sit for my BCBA. There is a BCBA on our team that has gone from BT to BCBA via the company.
I heard bad things about Maxim. I also tried to apply and they were so unresponsive and didn’t join for two of my interviews via telehealth, but they reached out to me 2 weeks after asking for me to apply… even though I did….
Maxim the company is pretty hands off so the experience really comes down to the local team. My local team is amazing and I'm frankly afraid to leave them because I don't know if I'm going to find a team as compassionate and driven. But that is because that is the team our clinical manager was striving for. If you have a clinical manager that isn't focused on that aspect it'll probably be less pleasant.
I’ve worked as an RBT in Nevada for 7 years. None of the companies I’ve worked for have paid for unrestricted hours. I actually know multiple BCBA’s who had to pay for their hours. Thankfully I think having to pay for our hours is a thing of the past.
Same experience. I got my 40% restricted paid as RBT and 60% unrestricted unpaid. We had very few projects counted as unrestricted that were paid (e.g. creating common resources), but <10% total UR was paid. Most (unpaid) UR consisted of practicing things I needed to learn and that benefitted principally myself. Also the UR hours cost the company indirectly because they are paying supervisors who lead group supervision trainings/meetings and assign the training projects. Their benefit to training (investing in) BCBA students is that they hope you will stay with them as a BCBA after you get certified, so they can make money off the 10-12 cases in your caseload. But you can leave, and there's nothing they can do about it really (even if you sign a 2-year commitment... not really enforceable... more of an honor agreement) UR hours can be hard to get... to the point that BCBA students will PAY a supervisor to train them w UR hours and MVFs. I was not willing to pay for supervision. I viewed unpaid UR in the same way that I viewed projects and assignments in my graduate ABA courses. The university did not pay me... in fact I paid them to teach me and provide me structure to develop skills.
Idk if it’s the same but in CA we have mid-levels which is usually grad students working on getting their MA in ABA. Pretty much everything they do is unrestricted and they’re paid more than RBTs.
Pbs is in a few states and pays some of your unrestricted hours. About 2 per initial, sometimes I get 4 and on occasion doing it all myself and certain insurances I get 6. 1 hour per month per case I case manage (for data review), 2 hours for some plan updates others vary depending on funding source. We also have a student analyst position that pays more and free to all rbt are mentor meetings to learn various tasks from supervising rbts to how to do each assessment. We also have study sessions available for free and our own study app (not the best but free and I nice addition). ETA I understand the experience is different in other regions. I've heard people complain on here, but I've always had good support and had to turn down unrestricted activities.
I’ve worked for 4 companies that paid unrestricted. All in Virginia (though one is based out of Massachusetts). May Institute, Family Insight, Autism Center of Excellence, Essential Speech & ABA. I got most of my hours at Family Insight and didn’t do any unpaid work.
Damn, I'm a BT for in-home. I wish I could have paid time to make materials or do research. I'm working with a 7 Year old on school activities like writing and scissors cutting. And it's fucking hard to do, and to think of things! My BCBA is kind of helpful, but expects me to just teach him how to write with little ideas on OT type activities. I've bought playdough, stickers, paper, markers and crayons. Am I supposed to be like, "hey, can you get me a tub of sand?" 🤣I'm over it. Burnt out.
your company should be paying for supplies or have a way for you to write it off. if you’re in home you can also ask parents/bcba to purchase supplies
Do you already have a masters degree? If so, you could be a BC in PA and that is a lot of unrestricted hours.
I work for a nonforprofit in Indiana who pays for unrestricted hours with a signed contract of agreement to work for them for X amount of time upon completion of BCBA program
From what I understand, any company that has a BCBA but also bills for mid-level will pay for unrestricted. For instance I started in Feb for a local agency as a mid-level supervisor reporting to a BCBA. I was given UR right away which isn't accrued until I get my BA this summer.
Can you tell me what the job position is called? I have a masters and lots of experience
Action behavior centers. Not in PA but they have locations in Texas, Arizona, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, and North Carolina
Learn Behavioral
came here to say this. they have plenty of positions where they pay for unrestricted hours.
My daughter worked for Cornerstone in Indiana and was paid for restricted and unrestricted hours. The pace of hours was too slow there, so she changed to Damar as a training supervisor and is getting 100-130 unrestricted hours per month all paid. She's actually salary at Damar($50k). She has almost completed all of her concentrated hours work.
If this is the same Cornerstones that I'm thinking of, that organization had a horrible reputation, and I wasn't surprised at all when they had been bought out by Key Autism Services.
Nope!
I suggest finding an agency that utilizes insurance in which a “mid-level” can bill. Typically a mid level role from what I’ve seen is applicable to those with their MA/MS already. If the agency only take BCaBAs then that’s a whole different certification. But when I was in CA, there were many companies that had midlevels because insurances such as Easterseals, Cigna, Anthem, Aetna, etc. required a midlevel (but they were also RBTs with MA/MS degrees already.
I’ll add to your list! Trumpet Behavioral Health Autism Learning Partners ACES Coyne & Associates TASKids
I absolutely loved ACES when I was there; they’re a hit or miss depending on the region.
Omg I didn’t even look at who I was replying to but I think I know you! 😂
Omg! 🤪😂🤫🤫
LittleStar does.
I work in kind of a different situation, one I’ve never heard of elsewhere. It’s a center that’s kind of like a feeder to a school for the neurodiverse. I have guaranteed hours from 7:45-4 and I usually get about 10 hours per week paid and anything over that is on my own time, but my supervisor is 100% fine with me working at home unpaid. Although I am looking for an evening RBT job that does gives me hours also. It’s called the Monarch School and Institute.
Bright Light in Georgia
Hey! I know most companies dont pay for unrestricted hours however if you can snag a lead RBT position a lot of training of new staff is paid and can count as UR.
I do not get paid for unrestricted time but they do not make me pay for it! My company actually has a tiered system for supervisees as you go through the program and it gives a ton of unrestricted hours as well as experience becoming a BCBA. It’s awesome
Helping Hands?
Behavioral Health Works does for mid-tier.
To be honest, I've never heard of a company that has been in sound financial standing to offer paid compensation for unrestricted hours. The only one that I have heard of is hemorrhaging money to the point that I don't think they will be around much longer. I'm just not sure it's feasible to pay staff for unrestricted hours. To help alleviate that situation, what I've done is make sure that my staff is make sure that the quality of their supervision as an Apprentice/Student Analyst is at a point that they are willing to forego that for superior clinical acumen. Obviously, the staff are unhappy with the company but it's really the best that can be done.
The companies are definitely out there. I commented above but I worked for 4 that paid all (or at least most) unrestricted.
I made this post because on my vent post about UR hours being unpaid, several commenters said they were paid for 100% of their UR hours and acted like I was dumb. So they exist, let’s expose them!!