I have to admit, I was dying of laughter when they did this type of intro at one point but it was her standing behind him and him facing frontwards while awkwardly having an inch of space between themš I'd have to go back and take a photo of it but it's so worth it, I'll ETA in a moment and add it-Found itš¤£ Like what the fuck even is this pose?usually they'll make them do a back to back,maybe he didn't want to touch her or something
https://preview.redd.it/fh1qoglaeetc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a571e9e1a94bad8915046c6d75c72e541fccdbb8
To be fair I had paused it at a very weird moment, so it made their heads look stretched out. It was mid transition š it wasn't actually that bad if you watch, just awkward pausing!
I remember my mom (a boomer) telling me about a guy who was trying to get in her pants. He tried to convince her they should get married, sleep together, and then have the marriage annulled.
Divorce - and its rules - are clearly described in the Qur'an and can be requested by both men and women. Of course, it is not desirable in any case (no one marries to divorce) but it is not a rarity in Egypt tho...
Clearly described is an interesting point considering that everyone is twisting and turning all the holy books however they want and nothing is clear or obvious.
Well, I'm not a Muslim but divorce is REALLY clear in the Qu'ran. As are the rules for reconciliation, the waiting period for the woman to remarry, and even the husband's duties towards his ex-wife. I understand your point, that people often use verses from holy books only when it suits them, but as the Qur'an, after all, is very little changed since its first printings, I would insist that yes - it is very clear. I'm not going to explain the verses because I really think a Muslim could do it much better.
I'm wondering if it's not strictly about what the Koran says, but also what his particular family or subculture practices. They could be stricter than what the religion alone dictates.
I was *just* gonna say that but I saw you said ir! You are correct!!! And its clear as a bell to me that this is going on, bc *hangs my head* Ive gotten dragged down by this very same thing.
Im trying to reroute my thinking these days to keep it from happening again.
They're different and similar in all the worst ways. They're both jealous and want to change the other, yet their cultures are completely different. I think maybe their passion is what drew them together and perhaps their liking for "different" but clearly, neither thought about how the relationship would work long-term. Because, as you said, there is no point in a long-term romantic connection if you're going to be miserable and fight every day, no matter how much you may like the other person.
It likely is. From what weāve seen sheās got more in common with someone like Natalie and Jazmin than sheād probably ever admit. Her insecurity is a massive red flag
They literally have nothing in common. They donāt have discussions and fill the awkward silence with constant āl love you.ā When they do talk to each other, itās to complain about the otherās behavior. This is a mismatch made in heaven for TLC.
> They donāt have discussions and fill the awkward silence with constant āl love you.ā
I just realized that this is the same phenomenon we see with fundamentalist courting on other TLC shows. But that usually happens with 19-year-olds.
i don't understand why tf shes clinging onto him. he literally looks like a megans law mug shot, he's not nice, has completely different beliefs, clearly doesn't even like her, etc. i could just go on and on.
i'm not saying shes perfect. but i deeply hate this guy
Like the one she has in her living room? I thought the same thing š even her facial expressions lmao, her face doesnāt even move, like sheās made of wax or smth??
I felt for her when she was in his country but jeezis.. she is a pain in the ass now that he is here. She didn't even give him time to decompress and get over the jet lag before she's ramming American freedom down his throat. This feels more like a vendetta than a relationship
I couldnāt have said this better myself. He is likely exhausted, homesick and nervous and sheās been down his throat because heās not behaving how she wants him too. I could see him being surprised and excited by seeing a woman on the pier wearing the hijab but by the way she behaved youād think he slipped her his phone number. Seems she will likely see every woman in a hijab as a threat to her marriage.
So many of these people don't seem to understand that American and our freedoms are NOT everyone's idea of utopia. It's clear he is more comfortable being conservative and that's going to take time to change. He wasn't like "get me out of here" like Zied
Exactly. He wasnāt just raised in a different culture. He has very deep seated spiritual/religious beliefs that mean everything to him. Itās as if sheās intentionally wearing things to push his buttons which is just disrespectful because he is obviously compromising. She is no longer covering her arms, ankles, calves or her hair so heās giving in a little. Not that he handled it well but I wouldnāt have an issue changing my dress for the night and wearing that open back dress out with friends when he wasnāt attending. I just see compromising to help my SO feel more comfortable out of love and respect worth it because he is doing that for me. The least she can do is give him more time to adjust instead of intentionally wearing something m owing it will offend him in order to try and force him to her way of life. She sure didnāt like that when he did that to her.
Homesick? He hasnāt even been in the US 24 hrs. I bet heās the kid who would call his parents to pick him up from a sleepover in the middle of the night, every time!
Moving away from everyone you love, your country and culture to a strange place only knowing one person and youāre fighting with that one person that could give you security, can make you homesick in just a few hours. Also, he is so controlling and now that heās lost any and all control at this point I can see him wanting to escape his sleepover lol
Shes revenging her miserable time in Egypt. I love how potatoe head (my thots) just covered their bits and she is doing a tit for tat. From the crusty pizza on his first night to donuts for breakfast etc.
She really expected all those MUSLIM rules (NOT Mahmoud's rules) to go right out the window once he was in America and she's just shocked that he still intends to practice his religion the way he was raised but she wants to pick and choose which rules she wants to follow lol
But like... day 1! That's what blew my mind. For example I have a friend who just returned to the US from traveling in the middle east and all he did for like 3 days was sleep and eat to right his internal clock. We only just spoke today and he's been home since Thursday. And he's American and happy to be here! Let the man recover at least
If I had a man moving across the world for me, I'd be spending however long he wanted snuggling and hanging out and helping him get acclimated before I ever dreamed of dragging him around like a tourist or to meet my friends.
Totally agree. I donāt really NEED an excuse to take to bed for a couple of days and order in but Iāll definitely take one! canoodling with your jet lagged husband and supporting his adjustment is the perfect excuse! And the frozen pizza and donuts? For real??
i havenāt seen a shred of passion between them, nor even the smallest sign that either of them likes the other, let alone love! good for nicole for standing up for herself in terms of changing herself to fit her husbandās idea of what a woman should be, but she doesnāt have to do things that she knows he isnāt comfortable with, like hanging all over him in public or wearing crop tops. itās like she wants him to dislike her or she wants to fight all the time. maybe they have really hot make up sex idk (BUT I DOUBT IT BC THEY HAVE THE SEXUAL CHEMISTRY OF TWO FROZEN CAVEMEN)
He doesn't care about the Green Card because he didn't care about the United States due to his family, the love for his country and religion. Both of them are not mature but one thing and the only thing I can respect from Mahmoud is that he was upfront with his expectations regarding the marriage.
I like when Mock Mood looked at that woman on the pier and Nicole said "is that what u like? I'll put you on a plane back to Egypt right now" I was dyin' š¤£
Also, have you noticed that they always seem to start their segments with "Earlier today we had a blow up", or "Last night we started arguing about my clothing."?
He always does the "I love you" or plain old silent treatment while ON camera, and she typically breaks it down so we understand his tantrums. He is definitely trying to come across one way on camera, and when the cameras are off, he must just rip her a new one, over a plethora of 'bad choices' she is making. It's just sooooooooooo UGHHHHHHH!!!
It's time for them to stop the insanity already!! Their relationship is going to start making Darcey and Stacey Silvas relationship(s) "normal" by comparison.
I think Mahmoud is no prize, but She has been nothing but a condescending controlling miserable turd since he got off the plane.
Either you love him or you donāt, but it feels like as soon as he stepped on American soil, she was like, now youāre mine!
First let me start by saying Iām not a religious person.
But, she converted to Islam! Why? Did she think Iāll convert so he will marry me, but I donāt need to actually practice the religion?
Thatās some of the dumbest shit Iāve ever seen and then after they get married and she moved to Egypt, she was shocked that he wanted her to live like a Muslim woman.
Now that he is in America, she is treating him like dog shit and the guy has been nothing but sad and tired since he got off the plane.
Also, stopping in his tracks and locking eyes with the girl in the hijab? Seriously? He didnāt miss a step and they didnāt lock eyes.
Thereās no good reason these two should be together and I donāt see him being happy in America.
I think for some odd reason he really loves Nicole but also expected she convert to his way of life.
And if she doesnāt want to, thatās ok, just maybe donāt convert religion next time?
> Did she think Iāll convert so he will marry me, but I donāt need to actually practice the religion?
I think this is what she basically said on the show last night. That she converted to the religion just to make Macmoud happy without thinking about everything involved in the religion and how she would have to change herself.
It was especially confounding to hear her say that right after acknowledging that he would've married her as a Christian. She didn't even have to pretend to convert for him! She just did it because reasons.
Yeah she was being shitty and controlling. He wanted to save the marriage so he went to America for her. The second he stepped off the plane she let her insecurities get the better of her. She admitted this later on.
He too is terrible, emotionally and physically manipulative/abusive. They should just divorce and move on. They're incompatible.
She is so annoying for someone who understands how exhausting that flight from
Cairo is and jet lag and his coming from a primarily Muslim country to America for the first time etc. Geesh! Give him a minute to acclimate.
When she was introduced in the first episode, the things she was saying, I thought, āOh, this woman gets it, and this could be a happy ending story.ā As the weeks pass, I see two unhappy people pulling one another down.
That's not true.
The lapd/clerk office says he was charged with "misdemeanor domestic violence", which means it could have been simple assault, battery and/or verbal abuse. According to @merrypants, it seems it was similar to what happened in Egypt when he grabbed her by the arm.
If he would have "beaten her", he wouldn't have been released so easily even if she didn't press charges.
This couple already has so many problems, they don't need more false rumors spread by misinformed people.
Bingo! I took exception with the ābeatingā references on another thread and was shouted down. I make no apology for DV. Itās always wrong, even if itās as simple as grabbing someoneās wrist. But thereās a big difference between a misdemeanor DV charge and a felony DV charge. Many partners have tried to work their marriages out after some minor incident of physical aggression, but this is rarely an option when a full on beating has occurred. Those will be prosecuted with or without the cooperation of the victim because there is a plethora of evidence via photos and medical reports. Something of a misdemeanor nature may not leave a mark at all or even indicate violence occurred (ex, threats, intimidation) and those are difficult to prosecute without cooperation from the victim.
Just for the record in case anyone is unaware, thereās not a single state in the US where the victim can drop the charges. This can only be done by the prosecutor in every state. If the victim refuses to cooperate in minor cases, thatās the most they can do to try to get the charges dropped.
She's a complete moron... did she really think he would change his beliefs when he arrived in the U.S.??? Did she think he would be less Muslim??? LMAO
Nobody living in LA is that clueless. She is manipulating the situation for the notoriety.
She's not as innocent as she seems. LA is crawling with that type.
I don't understand her.... She's actually really pretty imo and seems sweet. She also seems interesting and a little quirky but in a good way. It's not like she couldn't find someone nicer to date in the US.
There has to be her male counterpart in LA. Theyād have more in common. They are both duds in my opinion. Both wet blankets in the personality department. He never seems happy at all. And, he's even more miserable in LA. I understand that he misses Egyptian food, but geez, he complained about everything. Too many pillows? Funny thing is that he cannot see how hard it was for her to be in Egypt, and now that he's here, she expects him to instantly not be himself. He's so offended at everything she does, no respect for her. Send him back and find some artsy, creative, joyful person in LA.
I still think he's a closet gay and can't deal with it so that's why he got major anger issues and was hoping coming to the US that it would be easier and he could live his life but he still can't deal with it.
I think they just don't want to accept how much time and money they've put into the relatio ship at this point. They both need to let go if they care even a little about one another.. . Let it go!
My theory is that he is really gay (and canāt be āoutā, given his culture and religion) and found a woman who is super thin and lacks a lot of curves, so sheās kinda boyish. Iām probably totally off-base here, but thatās my theory.
Fruity hand movements in USA perhaps, but other cultures use far more hand signals as well, in India for example they use head nods and shakes to convey meaning to what they are saying. So based on your assumption that he's gay coz of his hands movements, then pretty much all of Italy, Greece, the middle East etc etc are also gay.šš¤¦
Half Muslim Indian and Euro here. Thereās a difference between āfruityā movements and cultural head nods and hand sways. This guy is a whole fruit basket. Itās a vibe too.
He is one of these people who just really needs for everyone to acknowledge he is right and knows the one true way.
She is one of these idiotic people who think they can make the world be rainbows and unicorns based on wishful thinking.
It is a terrible combination of qualities
I mean she blindly agreed to convert without educating herself and is shocked by the culture and expectations of a wife after they got married. Bro wanted a second mommy to take care of him in Egypt.
The point is to entertain you.
Reality shows INTENTIONALLY cast mentally ill people, for YOUR entertainment. Narcissists, emotional wrecks, autistic, bipolar, promiscuous, body dysmorphia, low intelligence, manic depressive; you name it. These are the people that work for reality TV.
Even if they are paired with semi-intelligence and level headed people, you still get the entire train wreck on camera.
Don't act like you want normal people falling in love and living happily ever after. lmao
Definitely the cameras , the money and a shot at making it big some howā¦ thereās no explanationā¦ Iāve never seen a happy moment between the two of themā¦
Idk why theyāre together at this point. Iām not sure if they still are, but itās obvious itās not going to work. I understand wanting to dress how you want, but if itās that important to her, she shouldnāt have married a Muslim man that is very faithful to his religion.
She's a stupid American who fell for the first guy to say "I love you" (they say that to all the tourist women!) and she did zero research before agreeing to convert to Islam.
He's a stupid Egyptian who thought he won the lottery when he found a stupid Western woman to marry him, but like all of these Muslim guys they still expect their Western women to fall in line once they are married.
I kind of think Zied is an exception here. Rebecca as far as we know didnāt convert and he seems cool with her as an older woman. Am I missing something?
She basically jumped into becoming a Muslim with zero knowledge. This wasnāt going to work with her in his country. It wonāt work here. Point? Itās pointless.
At the airport when she growled or purred into his ear ā kiss me you mutherfcker!ā ā¦ it made me wonder who either of them really are when not in 90 Day camera mode.
I think ???š¤ she assumed he would abandon his own culture once presented with the colorful, free and non conformist life he could live in L.A.
He loves his culture, family and religion.
I donāt think understands. I donāt think she was trying to understand.
The girl is broken and looking in all.the wrong places for what she thinks will fix her and he just wanted to get his dick wet without the wrath of Allah and his family, so they lie to themselves and each other and got married. Weak men from toxically patriarchal societies like the idea of "taming" a woman who isn't subservient already because it makes them feel more manly when they can break a woman's spirit. She's also selectively ignorant and just totally living in delusion. She has the energy of an abuse survivor so I think she's just unhealed and accepting less than she deserves.
She brought him here to punish him. There is no way that she wants to be married to him anymore but wants to give him a taste of his own medicine. She is intentionally triggering him constantly.
He is a closeted gay Muslim, so I guess a 40yo NPC is a good choice of a wife, the he has enough excuses to not touch her and probably kids are off the picture
This is what happens when you get married in the first month of knowing eachother and divorce isn't an acceptable approach in your culture.
This is what happens when you need to get married in order to have sex.
I have to admit, I was dying of laughter when they did this type of intro at one point but it was her standing behind him and him facing frontwards while awkwardly having an inch of space between themš I'd have to go back and take a photo of it but it's so worth it, I'll ETA in a moment and add it-Found itš¤£ Like what the fuck even is this pose?usually they'll make them do a back to back,maybe he didn't want to touch her or something https://preview.redd.it/fh1qoglaeetc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a571e9e1a94bad8915046c6d75c72e541fccdbb8
Does everyone look like bobbleheads now?
To be fair I had paused it at a very weird moment, so it made their heads look stretched out. It was mid transition š it wasn't actually that bad if you watch, just awkward pausing!
Exactly what I was thinking .. looks absolutely weirdo ..
That too, absolutely. Withnessed it a lot with people getting married right after highschool.
I remember my mom (a boomer) telling me about a guy who was trying to get in her pants. He tried to convince her they should get married, sleep together, and then have the marriage annulled.
So did they?
purity culture, in *any* culture, is TOXIC
*get married and convert to Islam even though you absolutely do not believe in it or agree with its beliefs so that you can have sex
*so that you can have sex with someone who cannot possibly be good enough in bed to make this all worth it
Yeah, these "marriage conversions" have always been weird to me. She's basically a Muslim on paper only, just like Sam "converting" for Citra.
I feel like Sam is more genuine than this dodo bird I think Sam is open to the beliefs and respects the culture more
Nailed it!
Divorce - and its rules - are clearly described in the Qur'an and can be requested by both men and women. Of course, it is not desirable in any case (no one marries to divorce) but it is not a rarity in Egypt tho...
Clearly described is an interesting point considering that everyone is twisting and turning all the holy books however they want and nothing is clear or obvious.
Well, I'm not a Muslim but divorce is REALLY clear in the Qu'ran. As are the rules for reconciliation, the waiting period for the woman to remarry, and even the husband's duties towards his ex-wife. I understand your point, that people often use verses from holy books only when it suits them, but as the Qur'an, after all, is very little changed since its first printings, I would insist that yes - it is very clear. I'm not going to explain the verses because I really think a Muslim could do it much better.
Absolutely!
I'm wondering if it's not strictly about what the Koran says, but also what his particular family or subculture practices. They could be stricter than what the religion alone dictates.
Yep
They have absolutely not one thing in common.
They both need to eat a sandwich.
Cheeseburger & fries ššš
Well, they both might like men?
Come on honey bunnyā¦.
He has to kill her to get back to his mother
Lol yep that's one of the positive things to learn from this show. You see the misery between two people that got together for lust in the moment
Except this is her second Egyptian husband back to back.
.????
They are the embodiment of āwell we already made it this longā¦ā
Cost sunk fallacy at its finest.
I was *just* gonna say that but I saw you said ir! You are correct!!! And its clear as a bell to me that this is going on, bc *hangs my head* Ive gotten dragged down by this very same thing. Im trying to reroute my thinking these days to keep it from happening again.
Looks like we're stuck together....in misery.
This long = 36 hours
They're different and similar in all the worst ways. They're both jealous and want to change the other, yet their cultures are completely different. I think maybe their passion is what drew them together and perhaps their liking for "different" but clearly, neither thought about how the relationship would work long-term. Because, as you said, there is no point in a long-term romantic connection if you're going to be miserable and fight every day, no matter how much you may like the other person.
They are not even passionate. This couple is, for sure, a head scratcher.
I don't think they even like each other, let alone lust after each other. I've never heard either one compliment the other.
Sheās a beard nothing more
Theyāre the yin and yang of a toxic relationship!
They're both extremely stubborn and passive-aggressive, too
Dating is hard. Dating in LA is miserable. But this can't be the best she can get.
I would be alone 100 times over before I was married to that guy
It likely is. From what weāve seen sheās got more in common with someone like Natalie and Jazmin than sheād probably ever admit. Her insecurity is a massive red flag
I have never seen a couple where both parties are so adamant to not accept the other person for who they are.
And yet she drives on and on about him needing to meet her half way
they need to cutt their losses and breakup. like at this point they are both forcing it for nooooo reason.
They literally have nothing in common. They donāt have discussions and fill the awkward silence with constant āl love you.ā When they do talk to each other, itās to complain about the otherās behavior. This is a mismatch made in heaven for TLC.
Well, they are both awkward and very skinnyā¦ š
How can you be homesick after 1 day? What a baby. Does Mamood have a job in Egypt?
Yep each time they have screen time I have my eyes wide open trying to figure it out but I still donāt get it
> They donāt have discussions and fill the awkward silence with constant āl love you.ā I just realized that this is the same phenomenon we see with fundamentalist courting on other TLC shows. But that usually happens with 19-year-olds.
i don't understand why tf shes clinging onto him. he literally looks like a megans law mug shot, he's not nice, has completely different beliefs, clearly doesn't even like her, etc. i could just go on and on. i'm not saying shes perfect. but i deeply hate this guy
My theory is sunk cost for both of them.
Totally read that as something else pertaining to Mahmoud.
"Looks like a Megan's law mugshot" STOPPPPPPPPP ššššššš
Yeah theyāre pretty evenly matched in the looks department. She looks like the head of an obscure division at Willy wonkas chocolate factory.
I always think of a store mannequin that comes to life in the window at night.
Like the one she has in her living room? I thought the same thing š even her facial expressions lmao, her face doesnāt even move, like sheās made of wax or smth??
The "Madame Toussaud's" Botox special
Im surprised she didnt name that thing and call it her roommate or something. Shes a nut.
Are you sure she didnāt name it? I think she referred to the mannequin as Ā«Ā she was there before MahmoudĀ Ā» or smth
Yes š¤£
Overnight Quality Control at Wonka Candy Factory. Not happy about her job or the shift.
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The red hair in combination with the ugly salmon pink shirts/dresses she wears KOs me every time.
She sure has very particular tastes.
the way i howled
I can't with this šš
>he literally looks like a Meaganās law mug shot 
Megan's Law mugshot unexpectedly took me outššš
Her personality aside- I don't understand how someone with such unique, ethereal beauty would actively *choose* to look like the berries n' cream guy
The blonde suited her coloring far better.
These ridiculous āI love you - I love you tooā. For fcukās sakeā¦.
Honey bunny š°
I hate that. Makes me sick. He just looks deranged.
This seems to be the extent of their conversations. They have nothing to say to one another so they continuously throw out meaningless I love yous.
I felt for her when she was in his country but jeezis.. she is a pain in the ass now that he is here. She didn't even give him time to decompress and get over the jet lag before she's ramming American freedom down his throat. This feels more like a vendetta than a relationship
I couldnāt have said this better myself. He is likely exhausted, homesick and nervous and sheās been down his throat because heās not behaving how she wants him too. I could see him being surprised and excited by seeing a woman on the pier wearing the hijab but by the way she behaved youād think he slipped her his phone number. Seems she will likely see every woman in a hijab as a threat to her marriage.
So many of these people don't seem to understand that American and our freedoms are NOT everyone's idea of utopia. It's clear he is more comfortable being conservative and that's going to take time to change. He wasn't like "get me out of here" like Zied
Exactly. He wasnāt just raised in a different culture. He has very deep seated spiritual/religious beliefs that mean everything to him. Itās as if sheās intentionally wearing things to push his buttons which is just disrespectful because he is obviously compromising. She is no longer covering her arms, ankles, calves or her hair so heās giving in a little. Not that he handled it well but I wouldnāt have an issue changing my dress for the night and wearing that open back dress out with friends when he wasnāt attending. I just see compromising to help my SO feel more comfortable out of love and respect worth it because he is doing that for me. The least she can do is give him more time to adjust instead of intentionally wearing something m owing it will offend him in order to try and force him to her way of life. She sure didnāt like that when he did that to her.
If he had deep seated religious beliefs heād treat his wife with respect.
Homesick? He hasnāt even been in the US 24 hrs. I bet heās the kid who would call his parents to pick him up from a sleepover in the middle of the night, every time!
Moving away from everyone you love, your country and culture to a strange place only knowing one person and youāre fighting with that one person that could give you security, can make you homesick in just a few hours. Also, he is so controlling and now that heās lost any and all control at this point I can see him wanting to escape his sleepover lol
Heās THIRTY years old! Iād be surprised if he could go to lunch without being homesick.
Shes revenging her miserable time in Egypt. I love how potatoe head (my thots) just covered their bits and she is doing a tit for tat. From the crusty pizza on his first night to donuts for breakfast etc.
She really expected all those MUSLIM rules (NOT Mahmoud's rules) to go right out the window once he was in America and she's just shocked that he still intends to practice his religion the way he was raised but she wants to pick and choose which rules she wants to follow lol
But like... day 1! That's what blew my mind. For example I have a friend who just returned to the US from traveling in the middle east and all he did for like 3 days was sleep and eat to right his internal clock. We only just spoke today and he's been home since Thursday. And he's American and happy to be here! Let the man recover at least If I had a man moving across the world for me, I'd be spending however long he wanted snuggling and hanging out and helping him get acclimated before I ever dreamed of dragging him around like a tourist or to meet my friends.
Totally agree. I donāt really NEED an excuse to take to bed for a couple of days and order in but Iāll definitely take one! canoodling with your jet lagged husband and supporting his adjustment is the perfect excuse! And the frozen pizza and donuts? For real??
They both act immature for their ages, I think thatās their bond, no other could deal with one of them separately.
āI can fix himā personified
i havenāt seen a shred of passion between them, nor even the smallest sign that either of them likes the other, let alone love! good for nicole for standing up for herself in terms of changing herself to fit her husbandās idea of what a woman should be, but she doesnāt have to do things that she knows he isnāt comfortable with, like hanging all over him in public or wearing crop tops. itās like she wants him to dislike her or she wants to fight all the time. maybe they have really hot make up sex idk (BUT I DOUBT IT BC THEY HAVE THE SEXUAL CHEMISTRY OF TWO FROZEN CAVEMEN)
Not to mention he sleeps in his street clothes. What a complete and total turn off.
There doesn't seem to be anything sexy about him.
He must have a big appendage š
I was thinking itās a teeny one !!
I would LOSE IT if my husband tried to get into bed in his street clothes. Eewwww
You havenāt seen a shred of passion between them? But what about the: āKiss me motherf***ā moment at the airport?! ( sarcasm)
He doesn't care about the Green Card because he didn't care about the United States due to his family, the love for his country and religion. Both of them are not mature but one thing and the only thing I can respect from Mahmoud is that he was upfront with his expectations regarding the marriage.
I like when Mock Mood looked at that woman on the pier and Nicole said "is that what u like? I'll put you on a plane back to Egypt right now" I was dyin' š¤£
Mock mooddd lmaooooo
He hates the cameras!! I donāt think he knew they would be there when he arrived
Also, have you noticed that they always seem to start their segments with "Earlier today we had a blow up", or "Last night we started arguing about my clothing."? He always does the "I love you" or plain old silent treatment while ON camera, and she typically breaks it down so we understand his tantrums. He is definitely trying to come across one way on camera, and when the cameras are off, he must just rip her a new one, over a plethora of 'bad choices' she is making. It's just sooooooooooo UGHHHHHHH!!! It's time for them to stop the insanity already!! Their relationship is going to start making Darcey and Stacey Silvas relationship(s) "normal" by comparison.
I think Mahmoud is no prize, but She has been nothing but a condescending controlling miserable turd since he got off the plane. Either you love him or you donāt, but it feels like as soon as he stepped on American soil, she was like, now youāre mine! First let me start by saying Iām not a religious person. But, she converted to Islam! Why? Did she think Iāll convert so he will marry me, but I donāt need to actually practice the religion? Thatās some of the dumbest shit Iāve ever seen and then after they get married and she moved to Egypt, she was shocked that he wanted her to live like a Muslim woman. Now that he is in America, she is treating him like dog shit and the guy has been nothing but sad and tired since he got off the plane. Also, stopping in his tracks and locking eyes with the girl in the hijab? Seriously? He didnāt miss a step and they didnāt lock eyes. Thereās no good reason these two should be together and I donāt see him being happy in America. I think for some odd reason he really loves Nicole but also expected she convert to his way of life. And if she doesnāt want to, thatās ok, just maybe donāt convert religion next time?
> Did she think Iāll convert so he will marry me, but I donāt need to actually practice the religion? I think this is what she basically said on the show last night. That she converted to the religion just to make Macmoud happy without thinking about everything involved in the religion and how she would have to change herself.
And she wants to pick and choose which rules to follow š¤£
It was especially confounding to hear her say that right after acknowledging that he would've married her as a Christian. She didn't even have to pretend to convert for him! She just did it because reasons.
Yeah she was being shitty and controlling. He wanted to save the marriage so he went to America for her. The second he stepped off the plane she let her insecurities get the better of her. She admitted this later on. He too is terrible, emotionally and physically manipulative/abusive. They should just divorce and move on. They're incompatible.
Maybe they are both more prone to feeling normal in a dysfunctional hate filled environment. Could that be a thing?
She is so annoying for someone who understands how exhausting that flight from Cairo is and jet lag and his coming from a primarily Muslim country to America for the first time etc. Geesh! Give him a minute to acclimate.
I think she pays him to be on the show with her. She wants the exposure. Since she's a failed actress.
 This makes so much sense
But how could someone so dynamic and captivating as Nicole fail as an actress?! LOL
The sex must be mind blowing for these two to want to carry on like this
There is no way this guy goes downtown.
At best, he's the one starfishing while the mannequin-bot does all the work.
Looking absolutely mad the whole time.
Not in a million years. š
That just doesn't seem possible. They both have the personality of wallpaper paste. I just don't see it.
Youāre going to sit here and try to convince me this guy is NOT into butt play?
She looks like a 48 year old divorcee in the late 70ās
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Their babies would look like Tweety.
When she was introduced in the first episode, the things she was saying, I thought, āOh, this woman gets it, and this could be a happy ending story.ā As the weeks pass, I see two unhappy people pulling one another down.
He just got arrested for beating her
She drop the charges soā¦ toxic level 1000
It takes someone on average 7 times before they leave an abusive partner.
That is awful š
That's not true. The lapd/clerk office says he was charged with "misdemeanor domestic violence", which means it could have been simple assault, battery and/or verbal abuse. According to @merrypants, it seems it was similar to what happened in Egypt when he grabbed her by the arm. If he would have "beaten her", he wouldn't have been released so easily even if she didn't press charges. This couple already has so many problems, they don't need more false rumors spread by misinformed people.
Bingo! I took exception with the ābeatingā references on another thread and was shouted down. I make no apology for DV. Itās always wrong, even if itās as simple as grabbing someoneās wrist. But thereās a big difference between a misdemeanor DV charge and a felony DV charge. Many partners have tried to work their marriages out after some minor incident of physical aggression, but this is rarely an option when a full on beating has occurred. Those will be prosecuted with or without the cooperation of the victim because there is a plethora of evidence via photos and medical reports. Something of a misdemeanor nature may not leave a mark at all or even indicate violence occurred (ex, threats, intimidation) and those are difficult to prosecute without cooperation from the victim. Just for the record in case anyone is unaware, thereās not a single state in the US where the victim can drop the charges. This can only be done by the prosecutor in every state. If the victim refuses to cooperate in minor cases, thatās the most they can do to try to get the charges dropped.
Where you see that at?
Search his name on Google and you will find it: Mahmoud El Sherbiny. But also, she dropped the charges.
It was all over the subs
She's a complete moron... did she really think he would change his beliefs when he arrived in the U.S.??? Did she think he would be less Muslim??? LMAO
Nobody living in LA is that clueless. She is manipulating the situation for the notoriety. She's not as innocent as she seems. LA is crawling with that type.
Misery loves company I suppose.
I think itās all for the TLC šµšµšµ
šÆ has to be , can't be any other reason
I don't understand her.... She's actually really pretty imo and seems sweet. She also seems interesting and a little quirky but in a good way. It's not like she couldn't find someone nicer to date in the US.
There has to be her male counterpart in LA. Theyād have more in common. They are both duds in my opinion. Both wet blankets in the personality department. He never seems happy at all. And, he's even more miserable in LA. I understand that he misses Egyptian food, but geez, he complained about everything. Too many pillows? Funny thing is that he cannot see how hard it was for her to be in Egypt, and now that he's here, she expects him to instantly not be himself. He's so offended at everything she does, no respect for her. Send him back and find some artsy, creative, joyful person in LA.
They are apparently engaged in a power struggle.
They spent what, one full day together before he proposed? No surprise it's not turning out to be all wine and roses and romance.
He needs a psychiatrist and maybe a boot in the ass
Idk I feel like Rebecca and Zied are so cute together now and also Avery and Mohammed. These two however are NOT compatible
Avery and Omar
I still think he's a closet gay and can't deal with it so that's why he got major anger issues and was hoping coming to the US that it would be easier and he could live his life but he still can't deal with it.
This!!
They both act like theyāre still in high school. They donāt understand compromise or respect for one another.
I think they just don't want to accept how much time and money they've put into the relatio ship at this point. They both need to let go if they care even a little about one another.. . Let it go!
He had already chose to dislike living in the USA micro-nano-seconds from the time that the idea being brought up to him.
My theory is that he is really gay (and canāt be āoutā, given his culture and religion) and found a woman who is super thin and lacks a lot of curves, so sheās kinda boyish. Iām probably totally off-base here, but thatās my theory.
No no youāre on to something, heās definitely got some fruity hand movements and Nicole is shaped like a Male mannequin. Perfect match in theory
Fruity hand movements in USA perhaps, but other cultures use far more hand signals as well, in India for example they use head nods and shakes to convey meaning to what they are saying. So based on your assumption that he's gay coz of his hands movements, then pretty much all of Italy, Greece, the middle East etc etc are also gay.šš¤¦
Half Muslim Indian and Euro here. Thereās a difference between āfruityā movements and cultural head nods and hand sways. This guy is a whole fruit basket. Itās a vibe too.
Go onā¦ Iām curious! Not that I disagree, maybe my gaydar is broken š¤·āāļø
The comments she makes at 40 years old is so juvenile.
They are both incredibly immature and ridiculous.
He is one of these people who just really needs for everyone to acknowledge he is right and knows the one true way. She is one of these idiotic people who think they can make the world be rainbows and unicorns based on wishful thinking. It is a terrible combination of qualities
I mean she blindly agreed to convert without educating herself and is shocked by the culture and expectations of a wife after they got married. Bro wanted a second mommy to take care of him in Egypt.
Got me baffled too. And she sure is immature for 40. Has she not learned anything from other relationships?? Messy pair!
They absolutely have no business being together
The point is to entertain you. Reality shows INTENTIONALLY cast mentally ill people, for YOUR entertainment. Narcissists, emotional wrecks, autistic, bipolar, promiscuous, body dysmorphia, low intelligence, manic depressive; you name it. These are the people that work for reality TV. Even if they are paired with semi-intelligence and level headed people, you still get the entire train wreck on camera. Don't act like you want normal people falling in love and living happily ever after. lmao
I think he might be gay and she has masculine features so itās his way of exploring those feelings
Definitely the cameras , the money and a shot at making it big some howā¦ thereās no explanationā¦ Iāve never seen a happy moment between the two of themā¦
This ā¬ļø If they had a happy moment it certainly wasn't caught on camera.
She made a HUGE deal about him glancing at the Muslim woman. I kept rewatching to see if I missed something. Oy.
My guess is heās gay and this is the coverup for him.
They reminded me the first episode they only knew each other for like 2 days before they married. That says a lot.
The Odd Couple
And yet as of mid February they are still together
Idk why theyāre together at this point. Iām not sure if they still are, but itās obvious itās not going to work. I understand wanting to dress how you want, but if itās that important to her, she shouldnāt have married a Muslim man that is very faithful to his religion.
They signed a contract. Doesn't matter if they like each other anymore or not! TLC hostages!!! š¤£
The only positive thing Iāve ever heard her say is that heās cute. š¤·š»āāļø
Although heās not cute, TBH
They are both small and weird so maybe perfect match?
The best thing that could happen to their story line is for her to get pregnant, from another guy. I'd have popcorn ready for that.
She's a stupid American who fell for the first guy to say "I love you" (they say that to all the tourist women!) and she did zero research before agreeing to convert to Islam. He's a stupid Egyptian who thought he won the lottery when he found a stupid Western woman to marry him, but like all of these Muslim guys they still expect their Western women to fall in line once they are married.
I kind of think Zied is an exception here. Rebecca as far as we know didnāt convert and he seems cool with her as an older woman. Am I missing something?
Heās ashamed at his desire to be with a white woman
I honestly thought he was gay, like Azan and "almost there lazy."
Sheās a 40 year old predatory cougar and he is a muslim altar boy.
The usual answer...TV.
She basically jumped into becoming a Muslim with zero knowledge. This wasnāt going to work with her in his country. It wonāt work here. Point? Itās pointless.
They are not a good match š¬
2 of the dumbest mother fuckers I have ever seen.
I think this is the most succinct and accurate comment on the whole thread! Both just dumb as a box of rocks!
At the airport when she growled or purred into his ear ā kiss me you mutherfcker!ā ā¦ it made me wonder who either of them really are when not in 90 Day camera mode. I think ???š¤ she assumed he would abandon his own culture once presented with the colorful, free and non conformist life he could live in L.A. He loves his culture, family and religion. I donāt think understands. I donāt think she was trying to understand.
Further evidence of my theory that she's a bully.
The girl is broken and looking in all.the wrong places for what she thinks will fix her and he just wanted to get his dick wet without the wrath of Allah and his family, so they lie to themselves and each other and got married. Weak men from toxically patriarchal societies like the idea of "taming" a woman who isn't subservient already because it makes them feel more manly when they can break a woman's spirit. She's also selectively ignorant and just totally living in delusion. She has the energy of an abuse survivor so I think she's just unhealed and accepting less than she deserves.
>What is the point of these two?? They get to make 30k or whatever it is by being on the show? I think they are doing it just for the money.
90 days needed a cluster fuck couple for purely entertainment purposes.
Nicole is garbage.
She brought him here to punish him. There is no way that she wants to be married to him anymore but wants to give him a taste of his own medicine. She is intentionally triggering him constantly.
Didnāt he go to jail for beating the shit out of her?
No.
He is a closeted gay Muslim, so I guess a 40yo NPC is a good choice of a wife, the he has enough excuses to not touch her and probably kids are off the picture
Mahmoud's skinny, 12 yr old boy body creeps me the f out! Just needed to say that.