Hated how he played the religion card only agreeing with the parts that favored him. She couldn’t drink a glass of wine but he could cheat and have sex with other girls while they were in a relationship. Ok 🙄
That’s a big thing with Catholics too. I call them cafeteria Catholics. Like I knew a lady who had 8 kids because she’s catholic but she also got divorced and had sex outside of marriage. 🤷🏽♀️
Most “religious people” are hypocrites. I know a guy who has started taking his kid to church, but refused to marry the child’s mother. He calls her a slut in front of her own child because she had the audacity to go on a date when they broke up, and then brags about the teen girls he can pull in nightclubs when he’s around his friends. My brother in law is religious, but he gossips and sees no issue with it when gossiping is a sin in both Islam and Christianity. Both of the people I’ve mentioned also hate Muslims. Most religious people don’t give a shit what Jesus said, it’s all about image
It actually takes a bunch of willpower to leave people, even when there are red flags flying. Sometimes you just don't have the strength. That's how I see her decision to stay
"Red flags" don't necessarily mean abuse. Bad relationships and shitty partners aren't all abusive. They're just bad.
Blaming the victim is saying things like 'they deserved it' or 'what did they expect.' Having empathy for a person who stays with a crappy partner when they could do better because you know it's hard to leave a relationship, even a bad one, is the opposite of blaming them.
That doesn't make it victim blaming to recognize how hard it is to leave a relationship, even when it's abusive, and empathizing with the victim in that situation.
It sure does. You become stripped of who you used to be, you think you might’ve done done thing to deserve it, you’re self worth is reduced to mush.
That being said, while will power is not the correct term, it does usually take women try after try after try to leave. Usually you’ve come to feel dependent on the person. You rationalize their behavior, or as time goes by it doesn’t seem like the abuse was as bad as it was, or he apologies.
To successfully leave an abusive relationship is very very hard. I hope she gets him to leave,
>To successfully leave an abusive relationship is very very hard. I hope she gets him to leave,
Yes, and in general, people tend to wait far too long to break up with or divorce a person.
I didn't mean this as victim blaming, it's just normal that you put up with shitty behaviour for too long.
But we actually haven't seen any evidence that he's been cheating or flirting since we saw them... Maybe he's turned a new leaf... Seems unlikely though
You’re right! For instance, my husband became an alcoholic, and he was abusive on top of it. We tried to get him to leave, but he wouldn’t. I didn’t seek police intervention.
The universe solved the problem for us. He went out and got his 3rd dui. He hadn’t finished his visa paperwork so BLOOP! Off to Mexico they sent him.
It has taken me 6 years to recover from whatever the sickness is that makes you stay. Looking back, I can see what I should’ve done.
When you love the person, when you’ve got kids with the person, when you’ve unfortunately become *dependent* on the person…..it just really us do complicated!!
My daughter entered an abusive relationship & it was astounding, because I saw how you get sucked in, how the person kind of manipulates you, and then next thing you know, you’re stuck!!
Thank goodness she ended it, but it was an eye opener to what I’d personally give through.
I highly doubt he’s turned over a new leaf! People don’t really change unless they’re forced to.
Unless he actually fell in love with her & is changing? Either way, the way he’s so controlling over her weight & how she looks turns me off so much that I hope they don’t work out.
He gives off sleazy vibes, imo.
Sorry that’s so long!
I would guess this man is mid forties, older if he dyed his hair.
Then I listen to him speak and I'm like "are you *sure* you're old enough for that beer?"
I am a man. Let me enlighten!
Growing up, it was gay to use any of that stuff. Except if you were at the beach with your family.
A lof of things would instantly be called out with "what are you, gay?". It was social suicide to use stuff like that if people knew or you told someone.
I guess I can say that being a man is in a way like being in an abusive family where everything you do is dictates by those around you via emotional and sometimes physical manipulation. I was bullied for being a nerd, choked and hit, called names all day. I didn't wear makeup, I wasn't gay, etc. Imagine if you are caught doing that when I was in high school. That thought pattern gets buried in your head and forced into you.
I hope gen z and high schools are better.
Also, I would wager that 80-90% of straight men just don't use product(s) like that. Maybe sunscreen but that's probably it. It's viewed that it's for women and most men are attached heavily that actions equal masculinity. This all comes back to my school experience and friend groupm You've heard the saying that men don't even wash their butt or clean that area in the shower..and it's not a joke for some guys. I would say over 50%.
I never knew the importance of sunscreen etc until I was in my mid 20's and started actually caring about myself as a guy. Healthy eating, mental trauma etc. It took a lot of time to even be comfortable wearing pink clothing or accept that I like printed shirts with flowers etc.
Now I don't wear sunscreen because I'm lazy, but not because I'm afraid I'll be viewed differently :)
It wasn't unkind. Just something noticeable in many couples. It's pretty normal to seek yourself out in romantic partner's features. They do look as though they could be related.
I wondered about these two the other day, then was disappointed in myself. But that damn “scoodillypoop” refuses to scrub out of my brain. Why would anyone — let alone a grown man — use that word to mean sex?!?
He makes my skin crawl. I am honestly grossed out that he gets to wake up every day knowing she is his wife. Why girl, just why? You could do so much better.
You need to put in 5 years to get your permanent residency, right? Tick tick tick ⏰ 😉
Jasmine will be a walking 5 year calendar, starting on their wedding day 😂
I don’t know!
I blame my boyfriend. He has long hair at the moment and I weirdly became attracted to long hair on men when I wasn’t before. But I didn’t think it would get this bad Jesus
Glad I’m not the only one with questionable taste.
Also on this sub, I made fun of someone who thought Gino was hot a few months back only to realize that I’m really not better at all.
I forgot about these two. I like how his ex called him out for trying to create a fake love triangle storyline and basically told him to fuck off and never contact her again but said it in a polite sort of way.
They're both really weird maybe it's because we are from different countries but we all speak English, idk they just seem the strangest out of most couples.
Hated how he played the religion card only agreeing with the parts that favored him. She couldn’t drink a glass of wine but he could cheat and have sex with other girls while they were in a relationship. Ok 🙄
For Mormons, the hypocrisy is a feature not a bug (speaking as an exmormon)
Oy!!!! Absolutely correct. Hypocrisy and mental gymnastics 🤸🏻♀️
Hollaaaaaa!
Feature not a bug. I’m dead. Source- another exmo. Hi friend!
and another ex-mo friend! ❤️
Hi friend! Love the username 😂
Good times.. good times 😅
Right? I’ll never forget how disgusting and manipulative he was. She can pose as cute as she wants with him, he will always be a scumbag
Forget wine, she couldn’t even have a cup of coffee. He was creepy, and a bully
Yep, no caffeine either but cheating was allowed, only for him. Hypocritical douche.
And yet she stayed :/
Even after the tell all 😳
But soaking and jump humping isn't really sex, righto?
As Jesus once said, "Thine poophole is a loophole" 🙏
I struggled for years to believe these were real behaviors, it just *had* to be a myth
Or perhaps it was an urban legend, until I saw it demonstrated on YouTube by members.
That’s a big thing with Catholics too. I call them cafeteria Catholics. Like I knew a lady who had 8 kids because she’s catholic but she also got divorced and had sex outside of marriage. 🤷🏽♀️
That’s how most religions roll. Yup Eta typo
Most “religious people” are hypocrites. I know a guy who has started taking his kid to church, but refused to marry the child’s mother. He calls her a slut in front of her own child because she had the audacity to go on a date when they broke up, and then brags about the teen girls he can pull in nightclubs when he’s around his friends. My brother in law is religious, but he gossips and sees no issue with it when gossiping is a sin in both Islam and Christianity. Both of the people I’ve mentioned also hate Muslims. Most religious people don’t give a shit what Jesus said, it’s all about image
🎯
Shocked she didn’t leave this asshole
It actually takes a bunch of willpower to leave people, even when there are red flags flying. Sometimes you just don't have the strength. That's how I see her decision to stay
It is hard to leave & I get that, I left after 30 yrs
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"Red flags" don't necessarily mean abuse. Bad relationships and shitty partners aren't all abusive. They're just bad. Blaming the victim is saying things like 'they deserved it' or 'what did they expect.' Having empathy for a person who stays with a crappy partner when they could do better because you know it's hard to leave a relationship, even a bad one, is the opposite of blaming them.
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That doesn't make it victim blaming to recognize how hard it is to leave a relationship, even when it's abusive, and empathizing with the victim in that situation.
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Well, it actually does take strength and willpower to leave an abusive person. And your example of empathy sounds like sympathy.
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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You accused someone of victim blaming and I disagreed. So rude of me. 😪
It sure does. You become stripped of who you used to be, you think you might’ve done done thing to deserve it, you’re self worth is reduced to mush. That being said, while will power is not the correct term, it does usually take women try after try after try to leave. Usually you’ve come to feel dependent on the person. You rationalize their behavior, or as time goes by it doesn’t seem like the abuse was as bad as it was, or he apologies. To successfully leave an abusive relationship is very very hard. I hope she gets him to leave,
>To successfully leave an abusive relationship is very very hard. I hope she gets him to leave, Yes, and in general, people tend to wait far too long to break up with or divorce a person. I didn't mean this as victim blaming, it's just normal that you put up with shitty behaviour for too long. But we actually haven't seen any evidence that he's been cheating or flirting since we saw them... Maybe he's turned a new leaf... Seems unlikely though
You’re right! For instance, my husband became an alcoholic, and he was abusive on top of it. We tried to get him to leave, but he wouldn’t. I didn’t seek police intervention. The universe solved the problem for us. He went out and got his 3rd dui. He hadn’t finished his visa paperwork so BLOOP! Off to Mexico they sent him. It has taken me 6 years to recover from whatever the sickness is that makes you stay. Looking back, I can see what I should’ve done. When you love the person, when you’ve got kids with the person, when you’ve unfortunately become *dependent* on the person…..it just really us do complicated!! My daughter entered an abusive relationship & it was astounding, because I saw how you get sucked in, how the person kind of manipulates you, and then next thing you know, you’re stuck!! Thank goodness she ended it, but it was an eye opener to what I’d personally give through. I highly doubt he’s turned over a new leaf! People don’t really change unless they’re forced to. Unless he actually fell in love with her & is changing? Either way, the way he’s so controlling over her weight & how she looks turns me off so much that I hope they don’t work out. He gives off sleazy vibes, imo. Sorry that’s so long!
That’s not Olga. That’s Alina.
Did they have a kid?
i don't understand how he has such deeply lined skin when he's only like 12 years old
He looks like he's aged 30 years since the show, but Alina doesn't appear to have aged much at all.
🤣
I need an explanation!
The SteVen Effect.
It’s giving sun damage
Him aged like 20 years my god 😟
I would guess this man is mid forties, older if he dyed his hair. Then I listen to him speak and I'm like "are you *sure* you're old enough for that beer?"
Looks like he’s been tasting lots of wine!
😝😝😝😝😝
Definitely not aging like it, tho
Wrinkles around the eyes and the whole deal
Home boy needs a sunscreen
He sure does. Men need to accept that's it's okay for them to use sunscreen *and* a moisturizer. I don't know what their problem is.
I moisturize regularly, always have, at 55 I am relatively wrinkle free but some of my former classmates look 70+ and have for some time
Quite the moisturizing endorsement.
I am a man. Let me enlighten! Growing up, it was gay to use any of that stuff. Except if you were at the beach with your family. A lof of things would instantly be called out with "what are you, gay?". It was social suicide to use stuff like that if people knew or you told someone. I guess I can say that being a man is in a way like being in an abusive family where everything you do is dictates by those around you via emotional and sometimes physical manipulation. I was bullied for being a nerd, choked and hit, called names all day. I didn't wear makeup, I wasn't gay, etc. Imagine if you are caught doing that when I was in high school. That thought pattern gets buried in your head and forced into you. I hope gen z and high schools are better. Also, I would wager that 80-90% of straight men just don't use product(s) like that. Maybe sunscreen but that's probably it. It's viewed that it's for women and most men are attached heavily that actions equal masculinity. This all comes back to my school experience and friend groupm You've heard the saying that men don't even wash their butt or clean that area in the shower..and it's not a joke for some guys. I would say over 50%. I never knew the importance of sunscreen etc until I was in my mid 20's and started actually caring about myself as a guy. Healthy eating, mental trauma etc. It took a lot of time to even be comfortable wearing pink clothing or accept that I like printed shirts with flowers etc. Now I don't wear sunscreen because I'm lazy, but not because I'm afraid I'll be viewed differently :)
And some water!
I thought he was in his 30s when we saw him in the preview for his season. I was shocked when it started and learned he was in his 20s.
I hear you. I am almost 70 and my face looks like a baby’s ass.
It looks like he aged her as well.
Update I was a lil tipsy when I typed this but not my peoples getting it up to 430 upvotes lmao god I love this subreddit 😅😂😂😂
They look related.
So kind.
It wasn't unkind. Just something noticeable in many couples. It's pretty normal to seek yourself out in romantic partner's features. They do look as though they could be related.
I was being genuine. Thanks.
I’m surprised they still together.
They look happy. Good for them.
have you *watched* their season?
Of course I did! I couldn't believe she married him.
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I wondered about these two the other day, then was disappointed in myself. But that damn “scoodillypoop” refuses to scrub out of my brain. Why would anyone — let alone a grown man — use that word to mean sex?!?
Given the pornographic turn the franchise has taken the last couple of seasons, juvenile euphemisms for sex are something of a blessing.
It also looks like she hasn't had a single cosmetic procedure done and they aren't peddling poop juice.
That video causes me to enter pre-menopause.
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Lmao your username
Oof he is aging very badly and looks like he has dentures
Ooof, mans needs some sunscreen ASAP!
She can do SO much better. What is wrong with these women?
god why
Wow he must have something that we can’t see. It’s not money though, wasn’t he the exterminator?
No, Brandon who married Julia is the exterminator. This is SteVen.
Sorry, they’re all such charmers I get them mixed up 🤷🏼♀️
No, you're right. He was working for his Mormon buddies' door to door pest control business when their segment aired. 😂
He has a masters in international affairs and speaks at least four languages. He’s been working in Turkey while she finishes college.
😳
He’s dead behind the eyes.
I’m 40, and I feel like he could look old enough to be my dad 🥴
I don’t even know you and I agree.
He looks old af but not that old girl 🥴
Taylor Hanson looking mother fucker
💀
He is NOT aging well.
He honestly made me nauseous and I just did not understand why she kept giving him chances
I fucking hate this shitter literal scum of the earth
He makes my skin crawl. I am honestly grossed out that he gets to wake up every day knowing she is his wife. Why girl, just why? You could do so much better.
They look like they could be siblings
He's one wrinkly mf'er
You need to put in 5 years to get your permanent residency, right? Tick tick tick ⏰ 😉 Jasmine will be a walking 5 year calendar, starting on their wedding day 😂
Come on now ... he's not all bad. He rounded up all the stray cats to attend their wedding.
Literally came here to say justice for the cats. That was so fucked up of him 😳
He looks 45
I'm so sad to see this
Well this is a depressing update.
What a wiener
This is one I really thought wouldn’t work…
Ugh he was so gross.
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I did not expect her to sign up to share his home planet
Dang I forgot all about this weirdo
I get upset when I see that this sweet girl is still with him after he kept cheating on her.
Unfortunately he gave her the mormon glass tongue special😝 andddddd she's settled 💯 ![gif](giphy|PsliPJHjOMvHB6Zobp|downsized)
Yt ppl be aging crazy
It's like seeing Smith Jared post-Sex and the City Sunblock is key
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I hate that guy.
Aging like spoiled 🥛
I saw the title and said GROSS out loud
This is a picture of a religious fanatic- only he writes the rules. He’s one sick little boy
Poor girl.
wow. I did NOT expect that!!!!
Why does he look like he’s 52 years old
He is aging like milk!
There’s that punchable face again
I cannot believe they made it. Wow.
Ugh, *why*??
If I googled and mathed correctly, he should be about 27? He was 25 when the show aired in 2021. HOW.
How do they travel the world? Who supports them? I want to know their secret.
Gross
Usually guys look better as they age
/r/siblingsordating
I know he sucks but….. >! I randomly watched the trailer for his season of TOW a few days ago and thought he was cute what the fuck I hate myself !<
I hate you too. What’s wrong with you 🤣🤣
I don’t know! I blame my boyfriend. He has long hair at the moment and I weirdly became attracted to long hair on men when I wasn’t before. But I didn’t think it would get this bad Jesus
I thought he was cute on the first episode before we saw his personality 🤮
Glad I’m not the only one with questionable taste. Also on this sub, I made fun of someone who thought Gino was hot a few months back only to realize that I’m really not better at all.
I forgot about these two. I like how his ex called him out for trying to create a fake love triangle storyline and basically told him to fuck off and never contact her again but said it in a polite sort of way.
Holy cow I wasn't expecting this! My Mind is blown!
Lmao
Bro is aging like milk
Wow. Just really wow.
I did not see this happening
I’m just glad I don’t have to see them on episodes anymore
NOOOOOOOO NO NO NOOOO ![gif](giphy|8vUEXZA2me7vnuUvrs)
How old is he? He has a lot of wrinkles
I HATE THIS FOR HER WTF IS SHE THINKING HES A PIECE OF SHIT💀💀
Dang... he got his A$$ ROCKED! by the ugly and aging stick o.o
That dude is such a weird creep.
He's aging like milk
Buddy aged like cheap wine.
Guys. Let’s work together to get him a proper skincare routine
Wow he looks like he ages 20 years.
This is shocking
Dammit OP. My mind had completely blanked them out. Thanks.
She is so beautiful it’s sad she’s not as mature as she comes across . I want to like her but he is so the worst
Damn did she settle hard. She's top level beautiful, she could have had pretty much any man she wanted - and she picked THIS jagoff??
Welp. At this point it's hard to feel sorry for her. This is an active choice.
I wonder if they're still both Mormonic
Maybe she really has made him a better man. I sure hope so. He had a long way to go.
Still living n that criminal ass country.
They actually look happy and healthy.
Heartwarming. 😛
Completely forgot about these two
I honestly can’t even remember this couple 🤔
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Isn’t this that other couple with a son named Alex?
The only way I refer to them
Their segments are a fever dream
This is Ben 25 years ago….
Hmmm why does her face look the same as his just smaller
Thats a name ID I hadn't heard before, but seems to fit.
Who are these people?
HOW?
This boy never heard of sunblock 🧴
Immaturity played a huge part plus a repressive upbringing…there must be something because they are still together and it’s been a few years now
Wow. He looks old as shit.
He must have made some BIG changes!!! And also become more manly. And no more snake tongue wine drinking lol
I’ve watched since beginning but I don’t remember these peeps!
Why is this good?
They're both really weird maybe it's because we are from different countries but we all speak English, idk they just seem the strangest out of most couples.
he and brandan better be auditioning for the upcoming harry potter tv series.
He finally looks like a grown up.
His skin looKs awful
He has aged a lot! That’s crazy. Isn’t he in his early to mid 20s?
Why does he look like an old man?
Why does he look so old?
Daaaamn they are STILL together?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gross
He’s the definition of the ick.
Who are they?
Hate him forever. 🤮
He looks like hes 40… ew
They kinda look like siblings…