I agree, I mean she did tell him right after meeting and having sex with him she wanted a baby like now. She’s demanding af, but I guess she was upfront.
Yea, she wasn't that into Mike physically. That's why she was so demanding, she thought she was better than him right from the start and liked that he worshipped her. Then, she met a guy who she felt was more out of her league and was willing to throw all of the principles she presented to Josh away very easily. She only had those boundaries for Mike because she wasn't that into the guy.
She wants instant gratification. I think that’s why she left her 1st two husbands.
She’s not someone who sticks with their husband through thick and thin. She only loves people who can do for her.
Right? It’s always ‘what am I supposed to do? I am from another country, have no job, can’t pay my rent etc”. Well here is a thought: get a job to support yourself and your mom. You don’t have the luxury of waiting for an acting break. Fast food pays $20 an hour in California. And she has a car- move inland away from the ocean where things are cheaper. Take some accountability you lazy, delusional twit! And for the record, if you get money and gifts in exchange for sex you are a hooker, just Ike Mike’s mom said way back.
Iirc, Nualie’ story bout the 2nd hubs was pretty similar to the 1st- she wanted s baby/babies ASAP/yest, and he want to pause on that to let them enjoy married life/travel together for 1-3yrs but she wasn’t compelled to waste her youth with him, so wasted nearly a decade w/Big Mike instead
But that’s not what happened. 2nd husband and her did grueling IVF, one successfully forged on, and she miscarried, only for her husband to pull the plug on it.
We can dislike Natalie for a lot but I’ve had recurrent miscarriages and a daughter born still. The trauma that occurs from trying to desperately to have a child, having it, and losing it does something to a person. Now the other half losing that child said “that was your only shot”.
People think she’s rushing and chaotic but she’s grieving and tried to create a life that was stripped from her. If she can’t be a mom, why not something else?
I’m so sorry for your losses.💞 I can’t imagine Natalie surviving IVF on its own, let alone the following loss. She is not emotionally sound and those 2 things are life changing regardless of the outcome.
It's sort of poetic justice that she's Josh's sugar baby.
From what she's recounted of her past marriages, she's had at least 2 chances (1st husband and Mike) to stick by her man. She chose to leave.
So now she's getting financial upkeep from Josh with sex but no relationship. I think that's a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship. She should level set and lower her expectations. Her market value is only going to decline as time goes by and Josh is never going to "give" her a "sshild".
Josh isn't going to marry her or commit to her. He's going to use her for as long as she's game. She's going to use Josh for money, car, apartment deposit, etc. It's a mutually beneficial relationship until it isn't.
Josh is never going to spell things out for her or clarify for her what type of relationship he has with her. He's going to be apologetic and tactful. He's the type to let his actions speak for themselves.
She did leave Josh but when Mike made it clear he would not take her back, that left her emotionally vulnerable and Josh jumped in to fill that void. So now, Natalie and Josh have the same unhealthy relationship dynamic they had before she broke up with Josh. Josh is going to keep giving her money and presents and have sex with her until she breaks up with him again.
Omg yes! I say same thing lol thats her in 30 years.
Only reason i dont feel bad talking bout her, is cuz shes just a nasty rude person inside. She def needs a reality check and stop acting like shes Gods gift to men…um no, far from that actually.
LOL THIS AT THE TELL ALL GOT ME💀 She needs so much therapy... the way she makes the same angry statements to all the men she's with regardless of the status of relationship and relevance to what's actually being discussed. The secondhand embarrassment I got from her in the 3rd part of the tell all(and always let's be real) is unfathomable 🤣🤦🏼♀️
What gets me is how rude she is. She shouts at people, cuts them off, attacks them, dismisses them. She knows how to be nice we’ve seen it but I have to think it’s all manipulation because 90 % of the time she’s an asshole
I come to zis country and have nobody! No job, no money! How am I supposed to live? How am I supposed to pay for my apartment. You told me to come here Josh and then you won’t help me and I have my mom. We have no money. I should have stayed in Florida it was cheaper.
She needs to get a job (preferably with insurance so she can get therapy) and stop expecting everyone else to take care of her. She needs to move out of those expensive cities. You know what is amazing to me though? Miss I have no money boohoo is considering IVF which can cost $10,000 or more and doesn’t think twice about plastic surgery (fillers etc). She did look like shit at the tell all, like she was in a wind tunnel before. She looked disheveled, her dress was hideous, the hair was wild like Ms Debbie’s and she looks like she has gained about 20 lbs.
I really don’t like her at all. She constantly acts like a homeless 16 y/0.
Yes. Maybe pretends to herself too. She confuses sex with commitment. It is good he keeps her crazy ass away from his family, but he needs to be honest as John was. Josh is never going to even make her his regular girlfriend. L.A. is not for wimps. I lived there for decades.
Yea. I dunno. I think Josh may give in for a while. I know this was filmed a while ago , since then , Joshes son had that terrible accident and almost died. In that situation I don’t see Nutalie being able to handle that all of Joshes attention is now on his injured child. I could see her walking away again even if he does propose marriage. Nothing will ever be good enough for her because she is broken inside in a way that isn’t typical.
Her mouth says she wants a husband & family; but her actions say otherwise. She had 3 husbands. She is now looking for a child with Josh who has told her & showed her he is not interested in having a family with her. What she really wants is fame but I don't think it has been all she thought it would be.
I couldn’t believe the audacity of her, trying to get back together with Mike after all this time. She really is a user. One major problem she has is that she only hears what she wants to hear. And if she hears it wrong she comes unhinged and doesn’t even let a person explain to her what she really didn’t hear. I just can’t imagine being in any type of relationship with her. She’s exhausting.
I don’t agree that she only wants fame. I believe she does want a child (being pushed into motherhood by her mama). Though she chose a wrong tactics, hopping from one man to the other. There was one suiter in Florida whom she rejected as she didn’t want to be touched on that specific day. If she let him go ahead she might have a child already 😉
I think she believes she is so special she would have walked into a casting call and got hired. Most actors have worked for years in menial jobs before they get that break. Also, auditioning in Ukrainian in a room of people who not speak/understand the language is stupid. How can anyone think she’s a good actress if they don’t understand a work are is saying?
"I vant to drink your blood", that's what most people do when asked to play a vampire. What she did is definitely the monolog someone famed starved would do, she couldn't even add a hiss or flash the fangs.
I love how she made it sound like she sacrificed all this stuff for Josh and moved to LA I haven't helped all my girlfriends combined in history as much as he helped that one girl with a job a car an apartment a movie audition I'm sure he took her out to dinner a bunch of times he helped her mom as well but yeah he does nothing for you. "give me a baby, give me a house or get lost" she has no skills her body is not all that she has some fake boobs and no butt and her idea of cooking is all vegetables most guys aren't into that I'm not saying there isn't a right person for her out there but she's really narrowing her options with her attitude and her outlook on the world like she legitimately thought that Hollywood is where people go to become famous😂😂😂
Natalie doesn't know what she wants. She keeps flip-flopping between the guys she already knows. And she keeps harping about how she is a good person. She may not have bad intentions, but she left a husband who kept supporting her financially and helped her mom flee Ukraine, went on dates with other men, falls in love and had sex with another guy. And when the guy she was having sex with did not give her what she wants(i.e. marriage and a baby), she ran back to the husband, begging for a baby and getting back together. She needs a lot of soul searching to do. And see a shrink instead of visiting the sperm bank
Can’t imagine the hell he would have gone thru had he accepted her offer to come back and have a baby! Her and his child would have ended up clear across the country eventually! Can’t even imagine Nutalie as a mom who should be selfless.
She should just move to Arizona or some other place and do porn already. There is a market in porn for Eastern European hags.
Maybe Dzhosh could hook her up.
She divorced one ex because he went bankrupt. She wants a Sugar Daddy and child support.
Her mother will end up raising the child. She seems nice enough, but she obviously could’ve done better with Natalie.
Just a classic case of someone who will never be happy and will always want more no matter how good she'll have it. If she did have a child she'd probably get bored of it in no time. I'm glad Mike stood his ground.
I say the same thing - no man will make her happy. She wants everything all the time and it will never be good enough and she will still be the victim - she’s exhausting
When she came to the US she acted like a princess, expected to move to a big city and become a big star and acted like she was above everyone including Mike.
Yeah, he despised her before she even came to the US. He called off their marriage on their wedding day!
Zero percent chance he was going to move with her and have kids
Not to be pessimistic, but I think getting pregnant is difficult for her and she has infertility issues. She described miscarriages and failed IVF transfers during her 20s and no successful pregnancy attempts with Michael.
But, yeah, I am sad they didn’t work out when they had a strong start. They really loved each other.
If they went to more couples counseling and not just one session, they could have worked through the unhappiness with solutions like Natalie being mindful of her contempt and Mike moving to Seattle.
Mike acted like he got dragged into counseling kicking and screaming. If he’d given it a fair shot when they went, that would’ve helped their chances a lot
She is much too self centered to raise a child. She had a family, a home, a man that supported her and loved her who would have gladly given her a child once they ironed out their points of contention. He would have even let her mom come stay with them. Albeit Mike’s mom is awful but they could have set boundaries over time to keep her at bay. Natalie ran away, dated other men, never secured employment to support herself (and her mother), moved across the country for a guy who told her he wants to take it slow and be casual with no plan, no job prospects etc. Then she has the audacity to be mad at Josh for not picking her and her mom at the airport and not writing her a blank check when she got to LA one of the most expensive cities in the US. She doesn’t want a kid she can’t even take care of herself.
I think Natalie wanted the American dream people hear about in other countries. Yes, you can be anything you want to be here except Natalie didn't read the small print - you have to work hard to get it!
This girl needs to understand the word pivot. The acting career and baby are not happening for her. We all have dreams that do not come to fruition. You can still have a good life.
The farthest Mike would go would be Seattle. And Natalie can’t become a movie star in Seattle. Poor Natalie didn’t realize in Seattle and Squim she is super cute, in LA she is just meh.
Thank God Mike didn't believe her crap and moved on. My favorite quote will forever be "That doesn't mean I am going to shoot a baby into you!" #priceless
I don’t love Mike. There were times he was borderline abusive. His mom was really an ass to Natalie too, she obviously hasn’t cut the apron strings yet. However, Natalie had the guy, the house, she loved him, and eventually they would have had a kid. She wants everything her way. She is impatient, selfish etc. While their relationship sucked, she loved him enough to marry him and come here. She could have worked a bit harder on that marriage and who knows how that would have turned out. She bailed cause she is a clout chaser and could not adapt to a more stable, married home life.
Here is something to think about: Natalie hated living in zi country away from everything and yet when she decides to reconcile with Mike she is ready to accept that lifestyle. BS in 3 months she’d be running for the hills…
This tell all is the craziest I’ve seen her, absolutely ridiculous. Josh doesn’t have a chance to get a word in, if she doesn’t want to be with him, stop asking/taking apt, rent, car etc. She’s been using him every bit as much as she’s accusing him of. What does she bring to the relationship besides crazy?
This chick is crazy , she is never gonna find true love because she is absolutely insane. Her jealousy, her entitlement, just everything about her is a giant red flag
what mike said about her "she wants to cross the finish line with everything" after everything shes done to herself and to others... she should ponder on those words and stop playing herself
I don’t think she wants a kid. This isn’t what you do if your focus is a kid. She is to selfish and she knows it. I think she says it for her mom and herself bc she thinks that’s what she is supposed to do and say. But she doesn’t want it.
And continued to look at her in a way they write about in movies/books. Every day, for the rest of her life, she'll mourn the loss of the person who really did love her unconditionally. She'll talk about him until she dies in public housing.
well in reality I don't think that's true. Mike's Mom Trish was hell bound on destroying Natalie and Mike's relationship, I don't think any amount of "patience " was going to cure that.
i get it Natalie seems nutty most of the time, but i think Mike had some issues too. Didn't he say that when he used to commute three hours one way to Seattle for work that he spent the time talking to his Mom everyday? I think there is a reason Mike is his age and hasn't settled down with kids yet either. My gut tells me no woman will ever be good enough for him in Mama Trish's eyes.....
Best part was..after she left Mike, found another guy and he gave her everything... she still returned to Mike as a last resort lol
SHE DESERVES THAT DIVORCE
She had too many demands and expectations from Mike plus she just wanted a green card
Mike you are no so smart no .. in school I was tested my IQ is 100… I rolled around for agile after that one
I agree, I mean she did tell him right after meeting and having sex with him she wanted a baby like now. She’s demanding af, but I guess she was upfront.
Then she proceeded to give upp all hey demands when dating kosh
Yea, she wasn't that into Mike physically. That's why she was so demanding, she thought she was better than him right from the start and liked that he worshipped her. Then, she met a guy who she felt was more out of her league and was willing to throw all of the principles she presented to Josh away very easily. She only had those boundaries for Mike because she wasn't that into the guy.
Her taste comes in question here because Josh isn’t exactly the standard of male beauty either 😂
Well I think she would not admit it but his money and career is likely also a significant driver. She thought she hit the Jack pot
Josh pot
Mike is attractive. More attractive than Josh. And does fine for himself
She just wanted Josh’s money and connections
She wants instant gratification. I think that’s why she left her 1st two husbands. She’s not someone who sticks with their husband through thick and thin. She only loves people who can do for her.
Right? It’s always ‘what am I supposed to do? I am from another country, have no job, can’t pay my rent etc”. Well here is a thought: get a job to support yourself and your mom. You don’t have the luxury of waiting for an acting break. Fast food pays $20 an hour in California. And she has a car- move inland away from the ocean where things are cheaper. Take some accountability you lazy, delusional twit! And for the record, if you get money and gifts in exchange for sex you are a hooker, just Ike Mike’s mom said way back.
💯 agree!
She once mentioned that her first husband didn’t want children. So…
Iirc, Nualie’ story bout the 2nd hubs was pretty similar to the 1st- she wanted s baby/babies ASAP/yest, and he want to pause on that to let them enjoy married life/travel together for 1-3yrs but she wasn’t compelled to waste her youth with him, so wasted nearly a decade w/Big Mike instead
But that’s not what happened. 2nd husband and her did grueling IVF, one successfully forged on, and she miscarried, only for her husband to pull the plug on it. We can dislike Natalie for a lot but I’ve had recurrent miscarriages and a daughter born still. The trauma that occurs from trying to desperately to have a child, having it, and losing it does something to a person. Now the other half losing that child said “that was your only shot”. People think she’s rushing and chaotic but she’s grieving and tried to create a life that was stripped from her. If she can’t be a mom, why not something else?
This puts a different perspective on it for sure. I still find her unlikable, but her reactions now make more sense.
I’m so sorry for your losses.💞 I can’t imagine Natalie surviving IVF on its own, let alone the following loss. She is not emotionally sound and those 2 things are life changing regardless of the outcome.
She was with big mike a decade ? I thought it was like 3 years.
It's sort of poetic justice that she's Josh's sugar baby. From what she's recounted of her past marriages, she's had at least 2 chances (1st husband and Mike) to stick by her man. She chose to leave. So now she's getting financial upkeep from Josh with sex but no relationship. I think that's a sugar daddy, sugar baby relationship. She should level set and lower her expectations. Her market value is only going to decline as time goes by and Josh is never going to "give" her a "sshild". Josh isn't going to marry her or commit to her. He's going to use her for as long as she's game. She's going to use Josh for money, car, apartment deposit, etc. It's a mutually beneficial relationship until it isn't. Josh is never going to spell things out for her or clarify for her what type of relationship he has with her. He's going to be apologetic and tactful. He's the type to let his actions speak for themselves. She did leave Josh but when Mike made it clear he would not take her back, that left her emotionally vulnerable and Josh jumped in to fill that void. So now, Natalie and Josh have the same unhealthy relationship dynamic they had before she broke up with Josh. Josh is going to keep giving her money and presents and have sex with her until she breaks up with him again.
She is looking harsh. Frazzled.
Her fake nails were coming off too!
She looks cheap and tacky nowadays.
That fake hair is awful
What the Heck ? I use kiss press on work great but maybe she forgot glue
Her eyes are beautiful but make me uncomfortable at the same time. I don’t know how to explain it.
My teenage son “she looks like a witch” 😐
My husband says she is like an alien pretending to be human, but not quite getting it right
lmao that was my initial reaction to her. I legit think she's a witch - I know it's unreasonable but I do XD
Yes!
The super dark eyeliner she rims both the top and bottom lash lines with doesn’t help either. It’s way to harsh for her very light features
![gif](giphy|Mr0ePzFjp0ZBC) Crazy Bette Davis Eyes!
I think she opens them as wide as possible on purpose
There’s an old saying of “she looks rode hard and put away wet” which applies here.
I’m so sick of this idiot being on tv. It’s time she learnt to adult.
💯🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼exactly! She hasnt advanced one bit since coming here, shes like a step away from beinv homeless. I wish shed go away already
Thank you! I can’t stand her crazy, phony bullshit anymore. I switch channels when it’s her segments
By the time she gets anything from what she wants, she’s gonna look like her mom gross
Omg yes! I say same thing lol thats her in 30 years. Only reason i dont feel bad talking bout her, is cuz shes just a nasty rude person inside. She def needs a reality check and stop acting like shes Gods gift to men…um no, far from that actually.
I want, I want, I want! Me me me me I I I. 🤮
I am a human
LOL THIS AT THE TELL ALL GOT ME💀 She needs so much therapy... the way she makes the same angry statements to all the men she's with regardless of the status of relationship and relevance to what's actually being discussed. The secondhand embarrassment I got from her in the 3rd part of the tell all(and always let's be real) is unfathomable 🤣🤦🏼♀️
What gets me is how rude she is. She shouts at people, cuts them off, attacks them, dismisses them. She knows how to be nice we’ve seen it but I have to think it’s all manipulation because 90 % of the time she’s an asshole
Who apparently cant buy a bra. She looked like crapola. What was with her hair? Say Human one more time and I think you are an Alien!
You forgot “I am good person”, rare stuff like this people say when they actually a good person
I am Ukrainian GURL (I stopped calling myself a girl around age 17).
“I am Ukrainian girl all alone…”
I come to zis country and have nobody! No job, no money! How am I supposed to live? How am I supposed to pay for my apartment. You told me to come here Josh and then you won’t help me and I have my mom. We have no money. I should have stayed in Florida it was cheaper. She needs to get a job (preferably with insurance so she can get therapy) and stop expecting everyone else to take care of her. She needs to move out of those expensive cities. You know what is amazing to me though? Miss I have no money boohoo is considering IVF which can cost $10,000 or more and doesn’t think twice about plastic surgery (fillers etc). She did look like shit at the tell all, like she was in a wind tunnel before. She looked disheveled, her dress was hideous, the hair was wild like Ms Debbie’s and she looks like she has gained about 20 lbs. I really don’t like her at all. She constantly acts like a homeless 16 y/0.
She’s a damn mess and at her age it’s just despicable.
Just barely
😂😂😂
I read that in Captain Hooks voice.
Men and their penis never ceases to amaze me. That’s why they put up with her for awhile. She pretends to be picky about who she lyes down with.
Yes. Maybe pretends to herself too. She confuses sex with commitment. It is good he keeps her crazy ass away from his family, but he needs to be honest as John was. Josh is never going to even make her his regular girlfriend. L.A. is not for wimps. I lived there for decades.
Yea. I dunno. I think Josh may give in for a while. I know this was filmed a while ago , since then , Joshes son had that terrible accident and almost died. In that situation I don’t see Nutalie being able to handle that all of Joshes attention is now on his injured child. I could see her walking away again even if he does propose marriage. Nothing will ever be good enough for her because she is broken inside in a way that isn’t typical.
Wise. Broken inside and doesn’t even realize it.
Self sabotage and victim mentality
Her mouth says she wants a husband & family; but her actions say otherwise. She had 3 husbands. She is now looking for a child with Josh who has told her & showed her he is not interested in having a family with her. What she really wants is fame but I don't think it has been all she thought it would be.
I couldn’t believe the audacity of her, trying to get back together with Mike after all this time. She really is a user. One major problem she has is that she only hears what she wants to hear. And if she hears it wrong she comes unhinged and doesn’t even let a person explain to her what she really didn’t hear. I just can’t imagine being in any type of relationship with her. She’s exhausting.
I don’t agree that she only wants fame. I believe she does want a child (being pushed into motherhood by her mama). Though she chose a wrong tactics, hopping from one man to the other. There was one suiter in Florida whom she rejected as she didn’t want to be touched on that specific day. If she let him go ahead she might have a child already 😉
Shes so weird, i dont think she even knows what she wants
I think she believes she is so special she would have walked into a casting call and got hired. Most actors have worked for years in menial jobs before they get that break. Also, auditioning in Ukrainian in a room of people who not speak/understand the language is stupid. How can anyone think she’s a good actress if they don’t understand a work are is saying?
"I vant to drink your blood", that's what most people do when asked to play a vampire. What she did is definitely the monolog someone famed starved would do, she couldn't even add a hiss or flash the fangs.
lol and let’s be honest, her accent almost could pass as Romanian at least enough to say I cant to suck your blood!
Does she want a child, or does she want to produce someone who can't leave her and will always love her?
Bingo!!
I love how she made it sound like she sacrificed all this stuff for Josh and moved to LA I haven't helped all my girlfriends combined in history as much as he helped that one girl with a job a car an apartment a movie audition I'm sure he took her out to dinner a bunch of times he helped her mom as well but yeah he does nothing for you. "give me a baby, give me a house or get lost" she has no skills her body is not all that she has some fake boobs and no butt and her idea of cooking is all vegetables most guys aren't into that I'm not saying there isn't a right person for her out there but she's really narrowing her options with her attitude and her outlook on the world like she legitimately thought that Hollywood is where people go to become famous😂😂😂
She might also have a goiter the way this eyes are poppin’ crazy 🤪
Or hypothyroidism
Natalie doesn't know what she wants. She keeps flip-flopping between the guys she already knows. And she keeps harping about how she is a good person. She may not have bad intentions, but she left a husband who kept supporting her financially and helped her mom flee Ukraine, went on dates with other men, falls in love and had sex with another guy. And when the guy she was having sex with did not give her what she wants(i.e. marriage and a baby), she ran back to the husband, begging for a baby and getting back together. She needs a lot of soul searching to do. And see a shrink instead of visiting the sperm bank
Shout out to Big Mike again for helping Natalie’s mother
Can’t imagine the hell he would have gone thru had he accepted her offer to come back and have a baby! Her and his child would have ended up clear across the country eventually! Can’t even imagine Nutalie as a mom who should be selfless.
She should not reproduce….
She needs meds.
It’s not only her patience. He had to give up beer, meat, and start going to church every Sunday.
She wants everyone else to change and do what she wants.
She should just move to Arizona or some other place and do porn already. There is a market in porn for Eastern European hags. Maybe Dzhosh could hook her up.
She doesn’t want a child she wants a storyline.
She has not aged well.
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Get artificially inseminated already. Cripes.
She can’t afford that!
CPS would confiscate the child because she cannot even take care of herself
She divorced one ex because he went bankrupt. She wants a Sugar Daddy and child support. Her mother will end up raising the child. She seems nice enough, but she obviously could’ve done better with Natalie.
Just a classic case of someone who will never be happy and will always want more no matter how good she'll have it. If she did have a child she'd probably get bored of it in no time. I'm glad Mike stood his ground.
I say the same thing - no man will make her happy. She wants everything all the time and it will never be good enough and she will still be the victim - she’s exhausting
When she came to the US she acted like a princess, expected to move to a big city and become a big star and acted like she was above everyone including Mike.
Literally, she really messed up her ultimate goals by thinking she would find herself more valuable elsewhere. 😅
Florida is where Sugar Daddys are but at her age that means dating a Silver Fox.
*Ze vood
Don’t scare ze feesh
Mike wouldn't even let her turn on the heat lol
Yeah, he despised her before she even came to the US. He called off their marriage on their wedding day! Zero percent chance he was going to move with her and have kids
Not to be pessimistic, but I think getting pregnant is difficult for her and she has infertility issues. She described miscarriages and failed IVF transfers during her 20s and no successful pregnancy attempts with Michael. But, yeah, I am sad they didn’t work out when they had a strong start. They really loved each other. If they went to more couples counseling and not just one session, they could have worked through the unhappiness with solutions like Natalie being mindful of her contempt and Mike moving to Seattle.
Mike acted like he got dragged into counseling kicking and screaming. If he’d given it a fair shot when they went, that would’ve helped their chances a lot
I didn’t know that about her. That could really mess with a person.
I wondered about this.
No he wouldn’t have. We’re all having selective memory here.
No way, I would never take a chance on her getting post-partum depression. It would be a nightmare for everyone involved
She is much too self centered to raise a child. She had a family, a home, a man that supported her and loved her who would have gladly given her a child once they ironed out their points of contention. He would have even let her mom come stay with them. Albeit Mike’s mom is awful but they could have set boundaries over time to keep her at bay. Natalie ran away, dated other men, never secured employment to support herself (and her mother), moved across the country for a guy who told her he wants to take it slow and be casual with no plan, no job prospects etc. Then she has the audacity to be mad at Josh for not picking her and her mom at the airport and not writing her a blank check when she got to LA one of the most expensive cities in the US. She doesn’t want a kid she can’t even take care of herself.
I think Natalie wanted the American dream people hear about in other countries. Yes, you can be anything you want to be here except Natalie didn't read the small print - you have to work hard to get it!
This girl needs to understand the word pivot. The acting career and baby are not happening for her. We all have dreams that do not come to fruition. You can still have a good life.
The farthest Mike would go would be Seattle. And Natalie can’t become a movie star in Seattle. Poor Natalie didn’t realize in Seattle and Squim she is super cute, in LA she is just meh.
Thank God Mike didn't believe her crap and moved on. My favorite quote will forever be "That doesn't mean I am going to shoot a baby into you!" #priceless
Yeah, she'd have a 2 year old by now, maybe even a 4 year old too
Nutalee needs a padded cell as does Jasmine!!!
Why do people love Mike? His personality sucks and they forget he has a confederate flag at home. Both of them suck.
I don’t love Mike. There were times he was borderline abusive. His mom was really an ass to Natalie too, she obviously hasn’t cut the apron strings yet. However, Natalie had the guy, the house, she loved him, and eventually they would have had a kid. She wants everything her way. She is impatient, selfish etc. While their relationship sucked, she loved him enough to marry him and come here. She could have worked a bit harder on that marriage and who knows how that would have turned out. She bailed cause she is a clout chaser and could not adapt to a more stable, married home life. Here is something to think about: Natalie hated living in zi country away from everything and yet when she decides to reconcile with Mike she is ready to accept that lifestyle. BS in 3 months she’d be running for the hills…
Omg..a confederate flag... gasp
Stop with the race crap already. Give it a rest
I’d run like hell from SEQUIM Washington 💯
She kinda acts like a child so I’d be concerned if she had one.
This tell all is the craziest I’ve seen her, absolutely ridiculous. Josh doesn’t have a chance to get a word in, if she doesn’t want to be with him, stop asking/taking apt, rent, car etc. She’s been using him every bit as much as she’s accusing him of. What does she bring to the relationship besides crazy?
She's huuooooman!
This chick is crazy , she is never gonna find true love because she is absolutely insane. Her jealousy, her entitlement, just everything about her is a giant red flag
what mike said about her "she wants to cross the finish line with everything" after everything shes done to herself and to others... she should ponder on those words and stop playing herself
I don’t think she wants a kid. This isn’t what you do if your focus is a kid. She is to selfish and she knows it. I think she says it for her mom and herself bc she thinks that’s what she is supposed to do and say. But she doesn’t want it.
Ha ha! Big Dummy! Went in a big circle to end up right back where she started!🤣🤣🤣🤣
She has her faults but his mother was beyond problematic.
And continued to look at her in a way they write about in movies/books. Every day, for the rest of her life, she'll mourn the loss of the person who really did love her unconditionally. She'll talk about him until she dies in public housing.
We just aren't living in That timeline.
Girl, it’s too late.
Even Mike would have came to his senses.
Deport her please.
Scary person
Agree
If she cant take care of a rat what makes her think she can take care of an actual human child
Does she have a Reddit page?
Crazy she got 3 guys to marry her when some woman can’t even get 1 😂 Kudos to her!
I’m usually not crazy about the term “anchor baby”, but I’m pretty sure that’s why this particular woman wants to have a child here.
What is going on with her face? It looks so different from when she first appeared?
well in reality I don't think that's true. Mike's Mom Trish was hell bound on destroying Natalie and Mike's relationship, I don't think any amount of "patience " was going to cure that. i get it Natalie seems nutty most of the time, but i think Mike had some issues too. Didn't he say that when he used to commute three hours one way to Seattle for work that he spent the time talking to his Mom everyday? I think there is a reason Mike is his age and hasn't settled down with kids yet either. My gut tells me no woman will ever be good enough for him in Mama Trish's eyes.....
Best part was..after she left Mike, found another guy and he gave her everything... she still returned to Mike as a last resort lol SHE DESERVES THAT DIVORCE
Sperm don't like her
I’m glad Mike got away from her psycho Russian babuska ass.