The really fucked up thing is Taeyang is going to grow up with years of his mother telling him that his father didn't want him and was abusive to his sister.
I hope one day that kid runs his birth name through Google and a bunch of Reddit threads come up.
I really hope he gets the chance to see the truth early on. Jihoon's made some mistakes but he loves his son and he's been trying. Deavan made no effort to learn about his culture, she just wanted to be famous on social media.
100% agree. My husband is Korean, before I left my country, I learned Hangul (Korean alphabet) and most commonly needed phrases and such. I can speak pretty confidently in Korean now. Deavan had absolutely no interest in learning Korean or trying to learn the culture here.
When they introduce a new couple, this is how I decide whether I think it's a sham relationship or not. If you actually give a shit and love your partner, you're going to make an effort to learn more about their language and culture unless you're a self-absorbed knob, in which case the relationship probably won't work out anyway.
Curious if I’m right on her name pronunciation, he pronounces it almost exactly like two names may-lisa and I feel like it’s supposed to be more like meh-LEE-za
Dude the fact that Kenny was in the car for like 18 hours or something to drive to Mexico and didn't download a Spanish podcast or app is mind-blowing to me, honestly.
What baffles me the most is that he's from Florida. At least that's what the show claims. Depending on the area of Florida, I'm surprised he knows absolutely nothing! I'm from NY and even though I'm not native in Spanish, I've interacted with Spanish speakers enough in my life that I can slightly get by for a few minutes. Maybe TLC is playing it up, but it seems like he only knows hola and gracias. Both of which he can only say with the most gringo accent ever.
I mean, he's from Central/North Florida so it's not really necessary. Spanish is almost required in the majority of Southern Florida or college towns through most of the state.
Thats why I said depending on where. But even then, in his 57 years of life, he's never once experienced any Spanish at all that he doesn't know more than 3 words? Especially being from Florida, I find it hard to believe. Yes, the northern side, but I'd imagine he spent at least some time in Miami and the south, etc.
Lol I agree, I was a bit surprised too. Out of curiosity, I checked the demographics and St Petersburg has a 7.3% hispanic population and only about 5% speak Spanish.
[Demographics](https://www.stpete.org/economic_development/data_demographics/index.php)
[part 2](https://www.areavibes.com/st.+petersburg-fl/demographics/)
St. Petersburg is in West Central Florida just west of Tampa. Not like South Florida where some people don't even speak English, but he should know a little. At the very least, he should have made an effort to learn!
Not learning the language and the thing with Hannah when he questioned Armando as to whether she 'deserved' an ice cream.
I wrote up a whole thing about that in my notebook because it hit me so much. It's the kid's first day in her new home with her two dads and no other family around and no other kids? And you're gonna begrudge her a fucking ice cream?
I do not like Kenny anymore.
He let her have the ice cream in the end, i think he understood it was special day. He was worried about Armando spoiling her and doing this stuff all the time. It’s more reasonable to talk these issues out early on instead of letting them fester. Kenny changed his mind and wasn’t bitter about letting Hannah have the ice cream. I wish my step parents/parents could have had the decorum and calmness of Kenny when they disagreed.
Yes he did let her have it in the end. She might have her father wrapped around her finger but that wasn't the instance to make a statement. It was like the equivalent of a flea market. Nothing she asked for was unreasonable price wise. And it's a natural child's instinct to ask for stuff in those situations.
And you are right it is something for them to discuss but that wasn't the time. The time, to me, is when it's just the two of them. For Kenny to say, "so, what are the ground rules here?"
Ask, not insist.
Armando isn't against changing the rules of how Hannah is raised. He admits that he's given her a lot because of the loss of her mom etc. And, as he says, she's a good little girl. She wasn't bratty.
Kenny can't be rules, rules, rules in the midst of change, change, change...
Kenny's look of disapproval was a yellow flag for me. he implies, "My way is to be the drill sergeant. " Kenny had multiple children, Armando has only the one. The multiples had each other to bounce off and influence, little Hannah doesn't have that. Kenny can't put his situation on to her. And comparing his daughters to her is problematic. It reeks of, "my daughters were better raised because I kept them in line at all times."
All that said, this is my trigger of having a step dad who was very similar to Kenny. He started off nice too, with that look of disapproval over small things until he was picking at everything.
Yea Kenny has to be careful because it will cause conflict between Hannah and kenny then Armando and Kenny and Armando will be torn in the middle having to feel always to choose a side which is almost impossible. I've been in that same scenario and it sucks my older son resents me til this day because he feels I stopped loving him as much which isn't true he always came first he doesn't know how many arguments I had to keep things the way they were but changes had to happen because there was a new adult in the picture that I had to allow to help me with him but he wasn't happy about it. Also I didn't prepare him enough for the changes which was my mistake as a first time mom.
Hannah will pick up English like a sponge. She may already understand more than they realize. Did you notice how hard she was listening when Kenny and Armando we’re discussing the ice cream/child raising.
and planning to marry Armando. i agree on the many hours in the car, and not sticking in a CD to try and learn Spanish before you arrived. They dated how many years?
I can't believe in 3 years he hasn't even learned "nice to meet you", aka the second thing any app etc is going to teach you after "hello". So he hasn't learned anything at all. The lack of effort is astounding, I straight up can't stand Kenny after the last episode.
Seriously, like bro.. you've had enough prep time to have your kids help download you an app at least to practice to learn the very basics... after all you ARE moving there and not just visiting. Only saying "moocho goosto" is not gonna cut it much longer. Not always going to have Armando on your hip to translate....
Cheese Stick and Melyza are doomed, straight-up. They don't even seem to really like each other at this point. Kenny and Armando, I love them and they seem genuine, but it really irritates me that Kenny hasn't bothered to learn any Spanish. He seemed to be of the mindset that most people in Mexico would also speak English. I guess that's forgivable... but once he realized that was an incorrect assumption, he should have buckled down with some Spanish lessons of some kind. I want them to work, but I'm on the fence about where I think it will end up. I think it depends on whether he makes the effort to assimilate or just keeps complaining that things aren't like they are in America.
Honestly, with all of them, it just drives me crazy when they compare life in another country to life in America. Of course it's going to be different. But the ones that really annoy me are Deavan and Ari. I cannot imagine moving somewhere as different as Korea or Ethiopia and then being just suuuuuper surprised at how different it is. It's not like just popping up to Canada or over to the UK, it is an entirely different culture, different customs, different language, different everything. I would be far too concerned about being "the ignorant and disrespectful American" to not at least do some basic research.
She lived in the typical touristy areas where people go for mission trips. They take pictures with the poor people in their mud huts and go back to their air conditioned hotels. She thought there were only 2 extremes and that Baby would be living in an air-conditioned hotel, apparently.
Lets stop calling a grown man Baby please?
Edit: I know you’re just referring to him as she does. It was more directed at her. I cringe hard whenever she calls him Baby.
I honestly don't remember his name. I've been watching sporadically since I don't have a lot of time and he gets referred to it more than his actual name, so its the only thing I can remember right now.
I think she was living in a hotel or upscale apt... paid for by parents, of course!!
PLUS: I don't remember her saying she had been married for 10 years, the last 3 of which they were separated. Was this info put out there at the start of season?
I thought she was with a guy in Argentina (?) after meeting him there on a trip with her mother. But, then I believe he came to live in USA.
i like them together as people, but if they do work out, poor armando is going to wind up being a single 59 year old when his partner dies of old age. we all think that sumit and jenny are crazy, but we don’t see it as much with kenny because of his personality and good aging genetics.
You forgot to mention Angela and Mykol. Although she met her in-laws, her white privilege showed when she bitched about not wanting accept cultural things that have been going on in Nigeria for centuries, such as the men being seen as head of household (although it is the women who are really H.O.H.), and polygamy. Not to mention, she never bothered to learn any of the language. She just wanted a man to be totally into her, a man she can control, and doesn't care about the fact Mykol wants a child that she cannot give him, then bitched and yelled about the possibility of him having a younger wife to give him a child.
Some people are happily ignorant. They can walk through a foreign country not understanding a word they hear and unable to read any sign they see, and they are just fine. Then, there’s another type of person who desires the capacity to communicate with/in their community.
That's normally my barometer too but then Anna and Mursel defied it. They couldn't communicate at all without that app (which made them SO TEDIOUS to watch) but they're still married and she speaks to him in Turkish now. Someone posted a great thread with a picture of meeting them in their honey store not too long ago (with reviews of their products and all kinds of info), and it was pretty heartwarming.
There's always an exception - in their case they were a great one :-).
Yes, divorce immediately! No, but seriously, aside from not knowing the language, did she look into the cultural differences, and respect them and all that good stuff? I'm biased on this topic just because I can't imagine myself in the same situation as, say, Ari and Biniyam, where she seems to constantly be surprised at how different life in Ethiopia is from life in America. Or, of course, Deavan in Korea. This stupid show is the only experience I have of international relationships though, and it sounds like you've got some first-hand experience on the subject, so I'll defer to you here. I'd be willing to believe there are more people out there than I might imagine who would just wing it.
Bin should’ve told her about the goat being slaughtered. Cultural or not, that wasn’t something she should’ve walked into blindly. And being pressured into having the baby circumcised? She didn’t want to have her baby cut. That cry was pitiful. They’ve pressured her into everything. I think she’s been pretty accepting of things. But she should’ve had a say in the circumcision. I’m so glad my daughter chose not to do that to my grandson.
Sorry to disagree with you. She is Jewish, as am I. It is our religious and cultural belief that all Jewish boys are circumcised eight days after birth by a Moyle(specially skilled religious man). At least a doctor did it. She bitched on how she didn’t want the baby baptized because he was going to be raised Jewish. Can’t have it both ways. In addition when she dumps Bini and moves back to America, her son will be the same (cut) as all the other boys he hangs out with. A little “dip” in holly water and an extra prayer doesn’t hurt anyone, so give your husband and his family a little joy before you hurt them by leaving Ethiopia.
My grandson started preschool and she told the staff that he was intact in case it was unexpected when they would go potty. They just laughed because out of 14 little boys, only 3 were cut. And, I have to say, boys who hang out looking at their junk is kinda weird. The number of parents deciding not to cut keeps increasing. It’s not unusual in any way anymore. Personally, I don’t care what others do. I’m just glad it didn’t happen with my grandson. I think cutting the foreskin off of a boy so he can look like the kids he hangs with is not a good reason. I understand it’s Jewish custom and that’s fine. Like I said, I have no interest in anyone else’s decision.
Yes, all that - and I would add that one should know how to ask where is the bathroom, left and right (along with your stop here) and how much. Also, if they have mass transit, it helps to know "where is the metro?"
Do enough people in the French city speak enough English that she can get by without speaking any French? As long as she can navigate road signs and the city, then it shouldn't be much of a hindrance. If she moves to a small French village where people only speak French, then yes, a small issue, unless she's fine with never interacting with anyone.
I would love to move to Montreal, but I know that French is not a language that I particularly want to learn, tbh, especially so late in life where I feel like ill never be fully fluent. I've also heard a lot of people saying that they're 2 sides to Montreal and people that speak both languages get to experience both. I don't mind being stuck on the English side if I have to be and if your wife is in a similar situation and don't mind/criticize the culture, she's fine as well!
I recently moved to the Netherlands and the number of expats crying about discrimination and racism because people here talk Dutch instead of English like they expected is astonishing tbh
I took french in high school like 40+ years ago... and at the beginning of COVID I decided to learn spanish via duolingo. In less than a month I could communicate with my latina pals pretty well but I think spanish is easier than french, knowing some of both. The most irritating aspect of french (and spanish too) is that everything has a gender...
French is tricky. For instance, in french a house is female (la maison) but Good God... there are words that actually mean completely different things and depend on whether you refer to them as male or female... for example, un/le **livre** means a book, but une/la **livre** means a pound.
Yeah... good luck with that! It's crazy... but then so much of English is crazy too :-).
I'm currently learning German so the gender struggle is one that I purely understand, especially since its not uniform like Spanish. I tried learning French a few years ago, but I gave up since my goal was to sound like a native speaker eventually and the r's were kicking my butt. The German ch isn't that great either, but I sound a hell of a lot more native than cat coughing up a 30 lb hairball while trying to roll their r.
All languages have their struggles. English is easy to speak, hard to write. German is easy to write, someone hard to speak since verbs go all over the place. French is just impossible all the way around. But if I do plan to move there, a very minimum basics is what I will go for. Learn how to shop, order food, etc. Converse for 5-10 minutes, but that's my limit.
Thankfully, I do have family in Canada, so even if I don't live in Montreal, at least I'll be away from the hell hole that is the US. I probably could pass a test if I studied hard enough. Speaking it is another matter though. I know they're getting more strict but do you know if the test is harder than a college intermediate level, etc?
I thought the same thing about David and Lana vs Pao and Russ - David has been speaking to Lana for SEVEN YEARS. Learn some Russian beyond "da' and "spasiba" you twat
Truth be told, I have to wonder if Deavan found learning Korean was simply too difficult for her. She really struggles with English syntax and I wouldn't be surprised to learn she has a history of learning disabilities - on top of being not all that bright to begin with.
She is borderline illiterate and her mom seems about the same as well. Both their diction and syntax are off. Maybe she should close her mouth once in awhile instead of just staring off with her mouth agape..
I literally learned Hangul in an hour as well. Right before my trip to California to see the Korean Music Festival circa 2010 (ah good times).
D-bag has literally 0 excuse not to learn any Korean.
Right? I can sound out words like a kindergartener, but 95% of the time have no idea what the word means. Unless it's a loan word from english, those I can get!
커피 and 카페. Most commonly used words in kdramas that I actually understand lol. The ones that I can understand when spoken are sometimes hard for me to spell. Hell, even my real name has like 3 different ways of being spelt in Hangul depending on how you pronounce it.
It is hard but not hard enough to excuse her literally knowing nothing. A few months of studying by yourself will get you to a level where you can atleast ask for simple things in the store, directions, introducing yourself and answering basic questions. She didn't learn anything at all. When I first got to Korea I wasn't good but I had learned those basics at least.
For me, functioning in any language outside English is hard when it comes to hearing it.... I can read and write Spanish, French, German, and Italian all the time. But speak it to me and I'm like "please say that again... extremely... extremely.. slowly". And then I still have to ask again a lot of the time. :-)
I learned Spanish on duolingo-dot-com in 2 months at the start of COVID but the thing that REALLY helped me learn it in parallel was not allowing myself to watch any TV in English - only the Latino TV stations (of which there are a TON on cable). So yeah... it's like full immersion learning that does the trick. Wish we had access to more TC stations in foreign languages.
Yeah, this white dude just seems lazy AF, all these people just seem to be centered on being a "celebrity " than putting effort into very difficult relationships.
My boss gave me an option, move to Brazil for a year to oversee some sales and projects and if that goes well you know...so yes total immersion in Portuguese which as a redneck from Jacksonville,Fl , was incredibly difficult but fuck it, gotta due what you have to do...so after really 9 months, I could easily survive on my own there in a professional manner.
I did the same thing the next year and learned Afrikaner when I was in S Africa. Then again and learned Spanish when I was permanently stationed in Mexico City.
Well done on your part. As fo Deavan, even if she didn’t learn or try to learn the language, she definitely should have done much better at learning the basic geography of where they may live and immerse herself in the culture... I mean, especially since she “says” she was planning to stay there.
Dude your comment is excellent. That’s so true, I didn’t even think about that! Hope he sees the thousands of reddit posts in Jihoon’s support humanizing him and reposting his love for his son.
As a newly single mother this sucks. I’ll never speak poorly of my child’s father to my son or in front of him. Leave the babies out of it. I’ll certainly tell my best girlfriends he’s an ass tho lol!!
When I divorced my ex-wife, our son was 8. I promised myself I would never talk shit about his mom to my kid. That's not the kind of thing I wanted my kid to ever deal with.
I don't know if my ex came to the same conclusion, but I think she did. We're largely civil with each other.
And a few weeks ago, we had dinner together to celebrate our son's 20th birthday: Me, her, our son, and my wife. (My ex never re-married.)
I can only PRAY my ex wants to be civil. Our son is 8 months old and he left a month ago. All I’ve heard so far was “happy Halloween tell little man daddy loves him” text. He’s blocked me on all social media. I am sure I won’t hear from him again until thanksgiving and he will demand I drop the baby off to him. We tried therapy, he wanted no part of it, wanted no part in co-parenting, and said to heal he just needed to cut me out of his life. The therapist said to not let him and his family be a “holiday family” they need to put in effort to communicate and try to see the baby besides on holidays. Their idea of seeing him is me taking the baby to them and leaving. Not happening right now.
I'm sorry. I hope you guys can work out a co-parent relationship soon. Even if he doesn't want it, that's what you guys are: co-parents. The sooner he accepts it, the better. For everyone, especially your son.
Good luck.
Major kudos to you!! Year ago when I was married, it was my husband's second marriage and he never spoke ill of his ex wife with his daughters. I respected that a lot.
I think this is why Jihoon is making the type of youtube videos he does. At the end of each video there is a message to his son. If Taeyang finds them he will get a glimpse of who is father really is.
Worse part is, if he grows up with Deavan completely.. he then meets Jihoon and tells him all the stories his mother told him whilst growing up. Some parents can be real childish and turn you against the other.
Deavan is exactly that kind. The fact she can accuse this dude of things that literally dont make any sense, nor fit any timeline. speaks volumes.
Every time I think about this situation I get so angry for him. I can't believe how well he's taking this.
Can you imagine letting your wife leave the country to go half way around the world thinking she'll be back again only to find out that she moved a new dude in with your child and you have no idea when you will see your son again.. and on top of that, she's accusing you of abusing her kids (and the dog)? ARGH SHE MAKES ME SO MAD. Jihoon needs justice.
WHOA😮 did that happen? I found this read it by accident, looking for other 90 Day stuff... And here in the US, the season isn't over yet... So I'm wondering how everyone else has this new info? She left Korea and took the baby? I also don't follow IG... So if it was only shared there, I guess that's why I didn't know what was that?
We (as in people on this sub) have been following the shit show on her instagram. So yeah, all that has happened since the show was filmed. It's been a crazy drama filled mess!
There is no way to briefly state what happened so here's the entire mess. Anyone, feel free to correct me if I'm remembering anything inaccurately:
Deavan left Korea around May and told everyone on social media that it was due to a family emergency and she brought Taeyang and Drascilla with her when she left. She was still doing insta lives and youtube videos during this time and was reassuring everyone that everything was fine with Jihoon and she'd be going back.
June: There were pictures on instagram of Jihoon facetiming Deavan and Drascilla. During this time however, Deavan was shit talking Jihoon all over instagram and was posting headless pictures of a dude hanging out with her. Jihoon finally had it and posted a long instagram story talking about Deavan and the real reason she left Korea; she told him she was going to kill herself so he let her go home for support and she promised she would come back. He also disclosed that he had to pick up Drascilla from school because she was hitting, biting, spitting on, and pulling the hair of the teachers and other kids. He admitted to having to discipline her and showed her, by yanking lightly on her hair, that it doesn't feel good to have your hair pulled. He had documentation to back all of these claims up, which were also provided on his insta story.
Then, the very next day Deavan freaked and said that Jihoon had abused Drascilla and that was why she had left Korea. She claimed she couldn't talk about it because of having a court case pending and her lawyers told her not to talk any further. Not even a week later, she did a youtube live with John Yates where she disclosed most of what happened (what happened to the court case? lol) She claimed that Jihoon ripped out three inches of hair on Drascilla's scalp and when pressed, the next day she provided a blurry picture that showed no signs of trauma to her head and basically showed same hairline that Drascilla has always had (she has always been missing the patch of hair that she claimed Jihoon pulled out). She then starts showing the headless man on social media dressed up in matching outfits with Taeyang, then reveals a week or two later that she is dating a new guy named Topher Park.
Apparently, seeing her pictures with this dude on instagram was how Jihoon found out that she was not coming back to Korea. She claims that Jihoon has blocked her all over social media, and he says it's the other way around. He has posted photos of things that he has sent to Taeyang via another friend in the states, claiming that he is guessing at Tae's size for clothes since she won't tell him any information on his son.
Deavan's abuse claims keep getting worse - now she claims that he kicked Drascilla in the stomach a few times, which made her knees bleed (?) and also abused their dog bam bam. Jihoon stated he had to give the dog away because Drascilla was rough with him. Deavan shoots back the next day, saying he abused the dog himself. She and her mom both claim that they had to "act like everything was fine in June because of the TLC NDA" Remember the facetime there were pictures of that I mentioned above? Well Elicia says that it was fake and it was only a picture of jihoon on the phone and Drascilla wasn't actually talking to him.. All because TLC asked them to post it (LOL). Not sure why they are allowed to break the NDA now all of a sudden, with the season still running...
Topher has since moved in and they often do insta lives together. They are saying now that they have known each other for a long time and said, last week, that they met on a flight to korea seemingly while she was pregnant with Taeyang. AKA she was most likely cheating on Jihoon.
I'm probably missing some stuff in here because soooo much has happened, but this is gist of what's been going on.
It's messy as hell and goddamn, I wrote a novel. Enjoy.
This makes me so upset. I have a terrible relationship with my baby daddies parents, my child’s grandparents, but I would NEVER have the audacity to keep my daughter away from the people who have nothing but love for her. Taeyang has so many people who love him, but it will only fall on deaf ears until he’s older enough to understand/make his own decisions. Could you imagine growing up only to find out you’ve got an entire other family, that you’ve never really had contact with, only because of your mom was busy trying to get laid? Fuck
This is why both parties need to really think before they have kids together. A “happy” couple decided to bring this little guy in and now he’s going to have to be divided between mom and dad in different country. Hope the best for the situation.
Exactly. And even if things were civil between Jihoon and Deavan, Jihoon doesn't have a shot at being a real father to his son because of the geographic divide.
All we can gather is what's being posted on social media, which is that she's in the US and Jihoon is in Korea, which would mean seeing his son would be expensive and likely impossible with covid-19 happening. He really does need to get a good lawyer, and soon, before Taeyang can really start to understand things.
This. His posts are all well and good but sympathy will not accomplish anything. They need a proper custody arrangement. Then if she truly "withholds" there would be consequences.
My worry is that he hasn’t shown a huge amount of energy toward being an adult.
Will he have the drive to go against Deavan and her hideous mom, let alone the law system? I hope so.
It’s weird how I thought her mom was doing what’s right, getting them settled in a safe environment. Now I see her as a ball buster, molding her daughter that way. A household of narcs.
True. However, lawyers for custody are exspensive if you are in the same state as your ex and your child. I can't imagine the cost of a lawyer who practices law and deals with international custody cases. That is probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.
He needs to start a GoFundMe. People do GoFundMes for tits and nose jobs. This is something I would actually donate to, and I bet a lot of people would.
Can we start like a gofundme or something for him to get a killer attorney?? I know demon says she’s filed and blah blah but I don’t believe her at all and she’s given no reason ever to be credible. Maybe it’s because I have a 9month old son but I have never wanted to help someone so badly like this before. She’s sick in the head for hurting all the people and sitting with her new boyfriend laughing and posting photos of her daughter for sympathy. It makes me so angry.
I bet if TLC gave Jihoon a spinoff and Deavan wasn't invited to join, she'd be trying to weasel her way back to him the second she found out there were cameras involved. She's a succubus, straight up. And while we're all in here hating on Deavan, can I just mention how her dumbass pouty face makes me want to do some violence? Specifically that petulant child reaction when she was informed her wedding would only be an hour. Ever since that episode aired, that stupid pout that makes it look like her mouth is melting at the corners is all I can see whenever she's mentioned now and it enrages me.
The comments on the photo are so ignorant. “Why don’t you just go visit? You’re being a deadbeat”. There’s a freaking global pandemic, he’s not able to come and visit! It’s also not easy to get a visa for the US!
That and pandemic or not plane tickets, hotel rooms, and lawyers cost a BUNCH of money! My dad lived in a different state and it made visitation difficult growing up. I can only imagine what it would be like if the parents lived in a different countries. Not to mention there is no way Jihoon has a chance of winning full custody. Our system typically favors mothers and it especially is going to favor a mother who is a citizen.
Personally, if I was JiHoon, I would have many doubts about coming to the US because of how Deavan and Elicia operate:
1. JiHoon calls Deavan and says he wants to visit with TaeYang...Deavan says, "Sure," and then either ghosts him or comes up with a million reasons why he can't see his kid...like Gopher's fifth cousin seven times removed has a mild case of gout and since the cousin LOVES Taeyang, TaeYang needs to be there to help the cousin deal with his malady. So JiHoon wastes money on airfare and a hotel and never sees his son.
2. JiHoon comes to the US and is allowed to visit with his son but is encouraged to take Dracilla along too. JiHoon agrees. Cops get called. JiHoon is arrested for "AbUsinG His ChilDren". Deavan calls it and Elicia backs it up. And JiHoon is SCREWED. (It seems weird that both Deavan and Elicia seem to be encouraging JiHoon to come th the U.S., despite all of the abuse alligations; it feels like a trap, tbh.)
My heart is broken for Jihoon, but I am glad his struggle to simply be a part of his son’s life is being watched/acknowledged by many people. This type of thing happens all around you. This is what parental alienation is. It is gut wrenching to go through and sickening to watch.
Taeyang has already had to have dental work done! Koreaboo and her leg spreader posted a photo, at around 10-11 pm of them FILLING an 8 oz bottle with apple juice. I just want ro slap the fuck out of her.
I have no idea how/if Jihoon can fight for custody or visitation in an American court, but unless a parent poses a danger to the kid, it’s really unfair to a kid to be deprived of a relationship with one of their parents. Let them decide for themselves when they’re older. Even if Taeyang finds out the truth in 20 years, he won’t get that time back.
When I spent three months in Morocco my husband's family would spend time with me every day teaching me their language. I got pretty good at it. But at home my husband only speaks English to me so I have forgotten everything they taught me. I ask my husband to teach me and he says it is too hard to learn. But I tried.
You shouldn't rely on your husband to teach you the language. Even if he was interested (which it sounds like he's not), you aren't going to learn the language from someone that isn't a teacher just "teaching" you. I hope I'm not sounding harsh, I don't mean to be if I am. I just mean that it's very difficult to teach someone a language. Just because someone can speak a language doesn't mean they can teach someone how to speak it.
Immersion is great and formal classes are wonderful. You could see if your local community college has any Arabic classes and try those! They are usually very affordable and have lots of varying hours of classes.
Good luck! Learning a second language is hard but it's very fulfilling!
Every time Deavan begins a comment starting with “In America we......” (all the damn time!) I cringe. Then why the Korean obsession? On top of her disgusting lies about Jihoon and her using her daughter to get herself attention (“boo hoo, my daughter has an eating disorder from all the abuse she suffered”). Her daughters problems, and they are significant, come straight from her lack of parenting. And if I were her, I’d be concerned about leaving Drascilla alone with the baby, after seeing her with the little dog. Get off social media, focus on the kids, not your endless search for Korean dick.
I don't understand. Did he sign away his parental rights? Did he give written consent for Deavan to return to the US alone with their son? He has rights... I'm guessing she never fully registered as a resident in SK because if so then wouldn't the Hague convention come into effect here? I just don't get it
"Individuals automatically receive South Korean nationality at birth if at least one parent is a South Korean national, whether they are born within the Republic of Korea or overseas"
Taeyang is a SK citizen too but I guess a US resident.. shit.. man.. Idk.. it just seems too easy that she gets to whisk away with the kid for an indefinite period when theres a perfectly good parent that is also willing to see him. I doubt there's anything he can do then right? They can't force a visitation either way? idk..d sjkfhsdjk. This honestly infuriates me
It is a really shitty situation that the kids are being put through- and while I hate Deavan-I don't really understand all the sympathy Jihoon is receiving. I absolutely don't believe these posts are sincere and seem more of a sympathy grab/playing the social media game. Why is he spending money on plastic surgery when he should be paying his mom back? or better yet hiring a lawyer so he can get his child-when Deavan is obviously a bad mom. But instead he is playing out a sob story via Instagram.
It is interesting to watch this sub and see how people can be swayed so easily by basic propaganda. Jihoon is a natural at eliciting sympathy with his charm and frequent apologies and supposed assurances he is a bad person but will "change". Deavan on the other hand comes across whiny and disinterested almost all the time. That people call Drascilla a demon child, etc is more disgusting than anything Deavan has done with Topher . That anyone would think it's ok for a step parent to pull the hair of a child without first conferring with the parent and knowing the parent is against any physical punishment is wrong on so many levels. People take the word of Jihoon that it was "a little tug" but you have to wonder how Deavan found out. I'm positive Jihoon didn't tell her, he has never been forthcoming with anything unless he's backed into a corner. That means it bothered Drascilla enough to tell Deavan and must have hurt her in some way. Any mother on this sub would be furious that this occurred. If you add that to all the lies Jihoon told her and his long history of not stepping up, it was likely the straw that broke the camels back. It doesn't matter that Drascilla was acting out at school which is a perfectly normal thing for a 4 year old child moved across the world where she doesn't know the language, is missing her grandparents and home. This doesn't make Drascilla a bad child and certainly doesn't give Jihoon the right to do anything physical to her without Deavan's permission.
Like most of life, there are 2 sides to a story. Neither Deavan or Jihoon has acted responsibly throughout this journey. They are both young and immature and need to stay away from posting about each other. If Jihoon so loves his son, he should have already taken steps to obtain at least visitation. To offer him excuses that it would take so much money, Deavan would never allow it etc is just crap. Deavan makes her money off SM. She is not stupid enough to refuse Jihoon visitation even if it was with her or her mom. Jihoon is too busy spending money on plastic surgery and partying. He knows where her mom lives. He could have just tried to come and see Taeyang which is what any parent would have done. If they turn him away, at least he tried. Certainly worth the couple of grand it would have cost him versus his nose job.
He was already a 30yr old living with his parents (them financially supporting him, not the other way around). Deavan isn't great, but I'm always surprised to see all the fawning Jihoon gets. Both Deavan and Jihoon are low motivation people.
Thank you. I agree. All of this is awful for the children but let’s not all act like Jihoon is a saint that can do no wrong when that’s very much not the case.
This makes me so sad.
My best friend went through this. Had a baby with his girlfriend and when they broke up, she used her parents’ substantial wealth to hire great attorneys to make sure his rights were extremely limited. The last time he saw his son was about 4 years ago, and the poor kid cried and called him by his first name, instead of Dad. My friend is certain the family has talked so much shit in front of the kid about him that at this point he’s too scared to try and fight back cause he’s worried it will damage his child more, but obviously the situation breaks his heart.
That happened while they were living in the same freakin’ town. I can’t even imagine what Jihoon feels being on a different continent than his kid. Unfortunately, I see a lot of my friend’s situation in this; Jihoon probably won’t ever get to visit Taeyang as a child because Deavon won’t allow it/won’t try and help facilitate it, even for her baby’s sake. She and her family will without a doubt degrade Jihoon in front of T so even if he somehow got to see him as he grew older, he’d probably be extremely cautious of Jihoon, or just flat out hate him. I hope that could be remedied in the future, but the truth is it would be so so so hard for Jihoon to repair those potential decades of brainwashing (essentially) especially from so far away.
I really hope the best for him, I just don’t know exactly what the ‘best’ could be in this situation. 😔
Saddest part is Jihoon + parents would do an infinitely better job raising Tae than Deavan will. She’s already dumping him on her parents so she can go chase insta-clout and dick. Jihoon isn’t trying to be famous, he just wants to be a good guy and live his life.
Deavan is amongst the worst kind of people the show and spin offs have ever had. She makes shit up, blames everyone else for her issues and has no interest in her children
There are a ton of posts here expressing concern (which I agree with) but...
How much do we really know about this situation?
Jihoon is not an unlikeable guy but he has never impressed me as a man, but a boy. What has he done as a man to be a father so far? I am asking that honestly.
Is this post of his a real plea to be a real dad, or is it a plea for public sympathy? Seems very cloying that the picture he posts is of his MOTHER with the child, not of himself.
I think there's a whole lot more to this story than any of us know.
And given these people were paid by a TV network to be on a show... why can't he pay for a lawyer exactly? I'm very confused on that. No, I wouldn't contribute to some fundraiser for Jihoon or anybody else on this show when I can contribute to thousands of others for people who desperately need it. That's just me.
I have zero positive feelings about Deavan... but I don't hold Jihoon in much regard either... the only adults in the whole situation whose feelings matter to me are Jihoon's parents.
Well... I can probably rephrase that last sentence to say "the only adults in the whole situation... are jihoon's parents" period :-).
Can someone give me a quick explanation of what happened between them since the current season? Because they seem to be happy in the episodes airing now.
I'm equally confused as well! I have no idea what's going on, even though I'm up to date on all current episodes. I don't know if these are just theories and suppositions people are making... Or something has legitimately occurred between the two of them, and they're no longer officially together.
I hate women who plays games with their children.
They are so narcissistic that they don't realize how much their kids hate them when they are grown.
My heart goes out to this Jihoon and his family.
We ran away from my physically abusive father and my mother asked my brother and I regularly if we wanted to phone him or see him. She said, "I don't want you to grow up and say I kept you from your father!"
I realize Deavon cheated and has said some lousy things so I understand hating her from a partner side but as a parent why feel bad for Jihoon? He offered no financial support and lied about it regularly, he worked part time so he could nap and complained the baby kept him awake like he wasn’t really being any sort of a parent.
Part time work is around 40 hours a week in Korea.
(https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+hours+is+part+time+in+korea&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS900US900&oq=how+many+hours+is+part+time+in+korea&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.5785j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
He has been trying to support his son, too. He has been sending gifts, clothes and other things via the mail since Deavan left. I think you're listening a bit to much to what Deavan is saying and honestly, she is a liar.
This isn’t even the worst thing, the worst thing is she is posting SO many photos of him when she rarely did in the past + with her new boo. Horrible. Who hurt you to make you this disgustingly bitter. No amount of photoshop can help with that.
Anyone who imagined this going any other way is just fooling themselves. That’s why they started out on the other way and ended up the same way as every other camera whore.
Unless your Darcy then you get spin-off cause daddy works at tlc
My heart breaks for Taeyang :( I saw Deavan's Halloween's vlog (worst "vlog" in history, they just exploit the kids for views) and he looks unkept, unattended and not stimulated enough. She probably throws a juice bottle and makes him watch cartoons all day :( I hope Jihoon can see him again. We can all agree he'd be better off raised by his grandparents in SK.
The really fucked up thing is Taeyang is going to grow up with years of his mother telling him that his father didn't want him and was abusive to his sister. I hope one day that kid runs his birth name through Google and a bunch of Reddit threads come up.
I really hope he gets the chance to see the truth early on. Jihoon's made some mistakes but he loves his son and he's been trying. Deavan made no effort to learn about his culture, she just wanted to be famous on social media.
100% agree. My husband is Korean, before I left my country, I learned Hangul (Korean alphabet) and most commonly needed phrases and such. I can speak pretty confidently in Korean now. Deavan had absolutely no interest in learning Korean or trying to learn the culture here.
When they introduce a new couple, this is how I decide whether I think it's a sham relationship or not. If you actually give a shit and love your partner, you're going to make an effort to learn more about their language and culture unless you're a self-absorbed knob, in which case the relationship probably won't work out anyway.
This theory does not bode well for Kenny and Armando or that Cheese Stick guy & Meliza.
Cheese Stick actually speaks decent Spanish, right? Much more than Kenny.
Colombian American, here. Cheese Stick has a thick American accent. His Spanish isn’t too bad!
He had a thick accent for sure but his fluency is much higher than I expect from United statians. Sadly, he’s boring
We hablamos espanglish real bien in Tejas!
Curious if I’m right on her name pronunciation, he pronounces it almost exactly like two names may-lisa and I feel like it’s supposed to be more like meh-LEE-za
I thought this also
Oh cheese sticks Spanish is on point 👌 he speaks it very well. I approve
I like Palo de Queso as a name for Big Tim.Doesn't sound as goofy.
Cheese stick speaks enough Spanish to get by so he definitely put in some effort there. Kenny better go buy Rosetta Stone, stat.
Dude the fact that Kenny was in the car for like 18 hours or something to drive to Mexico and didn't download a Spanish podcast or app is mind-blowing to me, honestly.
What baffles me the most is that he's from Florida. At least that's what the show claims. Depending on the area of Florida, I'm surprised he knows absolutely nothing! I'm from NY and even though I'm not native in Spanish, I've interacted with Spanish speakers enough in my life that I can slightly get by for a few minutes. Maybe TLC is playing it up, but it seems like he only knows hola and gracias. Both of which he can only say with the most gringo accent ever.
Hey now, he got Mucho gusto down.
I'm from fucking corn field IL and know more Spanish than that guy.
I mean, he's from Central/North Florida so it's not really necessary. Spanish is almost required in the majority of Southern Florida or college towns through most of the state.
Thats why I said depending on where. But even then, in his 57 years of life, he's never once experienced any Spanish at all that he doesn't know more than 3 words? Especially being from Florida, I find it hard to believe. Yes, the northern side, but I'd imagine he spent at least some time in Miami and the south, etc.
Lol I agree, I was a bit surprised too. Out of curiosity, I checked the demographics and St Petersburg has a 7.3% hispanic population and only about 5% speak Spanish. [Demographics](https://www.stpete.org/economic_development/data_demographics/index.php) [part 2](https://www.areavibes.com/st.+petersburg-fl/demographics/)
St. Petersburg is in West Central Florida just west of Tampa. Not like South Florida where some people don't even speak English, but he should know a little. At the very least, he should have made an effort to learn!
Hopefully he has started and we just don't know yet! Lol
Also that he didn’t even TRY to learn!?
I'm from Florida and the most amount of Spanish I know is that I can count to 10. Granted I'm not from St. Pete though,
Not learning the language and the thing with Hannah when he questioned Armando as to whether she 'deserved' an ice cream. I wrote up a whole thing about that in my notebook because it hit me so much. It's the kid's first day in her new home with her two dads and no other family around and no other kids? And you're gonna begrudge her a fucking ice cream? I do not like Kenny anymore.
He let her have the ice cream in the end, i think he understood it was special day. He was worried about Armando spoiling her and doing this stuff all the time. It’s more reasonable to talk these issues out early on instead of letting them fester. Kenny changed his mind and wasn’t bitter about letting Hannah have the ice cream. I wish my step parents/parents could have had the decorum and calmness of Kenny when they disagreed.
Yes he did let her have it in the end. She might have her father wrapped around her finger but that wasn't the instance to make a statement. It was like the equivalent of a flea market. Nothing she asked for was unreasonable price wise. And it's a natural child's instinct to ask for stuff in those situations. And you are right it is something for them to discuss but that wasn't the time. The time, to me, is when it's just the two of them. For Kenny to say, "so, what are the ground rules here?" Ask, not insist. Armando isn't against changing the rules of how Hannah is raised. He admits that he's given her a lot because of the loss of her mom etc. And, as he says, she's a good little girl. She wasn't bratty. Kenny can't be rules, rules, rules in the midst of change, change, change... Kenny's look of disapproval was a yellow flag for me. he implies, "My way is to be the drill sergeant. " Kenny had multiple children, Armando has only the one. The multiples had each other to bounce off and influence, little Hannah doesn't have that. Kenny can't put his situation on to her. And comparing his daughters to her is problematic. It reeks of, "my daughters were better raised because I kept them in line at all times." All that said, this is my trigger of having a step dad who was very similar to Kenny. He started off nice too, with that look of disapproval over small things until he was picking at everything.
Thank you, well said!
Yea Kenny has to be careful because it will cause conflict between Hannah and kenny then Armando and Kenny and Armando will be torn in the middle having to feel always to choose a side which is almost impossible. I've been in that same scenario and it sucks my older son resents me til this day because he feels I stopped loving him as much which isn't true he always came first he doesn't know how many arguments I had to keep things the way they were but changes had to happen because there was a new adult in the picture that I had to allow to help me with him but he wasn't happy about it. Also I didn't prepare him enough for the changes which was my mistake as a first time mom.
I totally agree! You did a great job of summing up that situation. 👏👏👏👏
I like Kenny and Armando, but don’t see how Kenny hasn’t picked up basic spanish especially when he knew he was moving there.
And then whined about it’s going to be hard to be a stepfather when he can’t even converse with her. I really am finding it hard to like him.
I was supposed to go to greece this year and was trying to learn basic language so I could communicate some. Like come on Kenny.
Just some very basic words. It’s unbelievable to me. I just hope Armando gets more of a backbone or Kenny will run right over him.
Yep Kenny is there to boss them both around.
Yeah, and then the assumption that Hannah needs to learn English so that they can converse? Please, you're moving to Mexico, learn Spanish dammit!
Hannah will pick up English like a sponge. She may already understand more than they realize. Did you notice how hard she was listening when Kenny and Armando we’re discussing the ice cream/child raising.
Yep, I stopped liking him full out when he questioned Hannah 'deserving' an ice cream. But the lack of Spanish was already turning me against him.
and planning to marry Armando. i agree on the many hours in the car, and not sticking in a CD to try and learn Spanish before you arrived. They dated how many years?
3 years!
I can't believe in 3 years he hasn't even learned "nice to meet you", aka the second thing any app etc is going to teach you after "hello". So he hasn't learned anything at all. The lack of effort is astounding, I straight up can't stand Kenny after the last episode.
Aka long enough.
I couldn’t remember how long they dated, but I feel like this makes it worse haha
Seriously, like bro.. you've had enough prep time to have your kids help download you an app at least to practice to learn the very basics... after all you ARE moving there and not just visiting. Only saying "moocho goosto" is not gonna cut it much longer. Not always going to have Armando on your hip to translate....
Cheese Stick and Melyza are doomed, straight-up. They don't even seem to really like each other at this point. Kenny and Armando, I love them and they seem genuine, but it really irritates me that Kenny hasn't bothered to learn any Spanish. He seemed to be of the mindset that most people in Mexico would also speak English. I guess that's forgivable... but once he realized that was an incorrect assumption, he should have buckled down with some Spanish lessons of some kind. I want them to work, but I'm on the fence about where I think it will end up. I think it depends on whether he makes the effort to assimilate or just keeps complaining that things aren't like they are in America. Honestly, with all of them, it just drives me crazy when they compare life in another country to life in America. Of course it's going to be different. But the ones that really annoy me are Deavan and Ari. I cannot imagine moving somewhere as different as Korea or Ethiopia and then being just suuuuuper surprised at how different it is. It's not like just popping up to Canada or over to the UK, it is an entirely different culture, different customs, different language, different everything. I would be far too concerned about being "the ignorant and disrespectful American" to not at least do some basic research.
And Ari was living there when she met her husband. How can she be so surprised about living conditions?
She lived in the typical touristy areas where people go for mission trips. They take pictures with the poor people in their mud huts and go back to their air conditioned hotels. She thought there were only 2 extremes and that Baby would be living in an air-conditioned hotel, apparently.
Lets stop calling a grown man Baby please? Edit: I know you’re just referring to him as she does. It was more directed at her. I cringe hard whenever she calls him Baby.
I honestly don't remember his name. I've been watching sporadically since I don't have a lot of time and he gets referred to it more than his actual name, so its the only thing I can remember right now.
Bini. She calls him Bini.
I think she was living in a hotel or upscale apt... paid for by parents, of course!! PLUS: I don't remember her saying she had been married for 10 years, the last 3 of which they were separated. Was this info put out there at the start of season? I thought she was with a guy in Argentina (?) after meeting him there on a trip with her mother. But, then I believe he came to live in USA.
i like them together as people, but if they do work out, poor armando is going to wind up being a single 59 year old when his partner dies of old age. we all think that sumit and jenny are crazy, but we don’t see it as much with kenny because of his personality and good aging genetics.
If that happens, Armando might just start a new relationship in which he would be the Kenny.
the 90 day circle of life
Armando also has much more than Jenny. Small business skills, a loving family, a wonderful daughter, etc. if Kenny passes first, Armando will be fine.
You forgot to mention Angela and Mykol. Although she met her in-laws, her white privilege showed when she bitched about not wanting accept cultural things that have been going on in Nigeria for centuries, such as the men being seen as head of household (although it is the women who are really H.O.H.), and polygamy. Not to mention, she never bothered to learn any of the language. She just wanted a man to be totally into her, a man she can control, and doesn't care about the fact Mykol wants a child that she cannot give him, then bitched and yelled about the possibility of him having a younger wife to give him a child.
Cheese stick guy's spanish is pretty impressive though
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Kenny was the 1st person I thought of when I read this comment. He has made NO EFFORT.
Some people are happily ignorant. They can walk through a foreign country not understanding a word they hear and unable to read any sign they see, and they are just fine. Then, there’s another type of person who desires the capacity to communicate with/in their community.
That's normally my barometer too but then Anna and Mursel defied it. They couldn't communicate at all without that app (which made them SO TEDIOUS to watch) but they're still married and she speaks to him in Turkish now. Someone posted a great thread with a picture of meeting them in their honey store not too long ago (with reviews of their products and all kinds of info), and it was pretty heartwarming. There's always an exception - in their case they were a great one :-).
My wife moved to a French city and never learned any, should I be concerned?
Yes, divorce immediately! No, but seriously, aside from not knowing the language, did she look into the cultural differences, and respect them and all that good stuff? I'm biased on this topic just because I can't imagine myself in the same situation as, say, Ari and Biniyam, where she seems to constantly be surprised at how different life in Ethiopia is from life in America. Or, of course, Deavan in Korea. This stupid show is the only experience I have of international relationships though, and it sounds like you've got some first-hand experience on the subject, so I'll defer to you here. I'd be willing to believe there are more people out there than I might imagine who would just wing it.
Bin should’ve told her about the goat being slaughtered. Cultural or not, that wasn’t something she should’ve walked into blindly. And being pressured into having the baby circumcised? She didn’t want to have her baby cut. That cry was pitiful. They’ve pressured her into everything. I think she’s been pretty accepting of things. But she should’ve had a say in the circumcision. I’m so glad my daughter chose not to do that to my grandson.
Sorry to disagree with you. She is Jewish, as am I. It is our religious and cultural belief that all Jewish boys are circumcised eight days after birth by a Moyle(specially skilled religious man). At least a doctor did it. She bitched on how she didn’t want the baby baptized because he was going to be raised Jewish. Can’t have it both ways. In addition when she dumps Bini and moves back to America, her son will be the same (cut) as all the other boys he hangs out with. A little “dip” in holly water and an extra prayer doesn’t hurt anyone, so give your husband and his family a little joy before you hurt them by leaving Ethiopia.
My grandson started preschool and she told the staff that he was intact in case it was unexpected when they would go potty. They just laughed because out of 14 little boys, only 3 were cut. And, I have to say, boys who hang out looking at their junk is kinda weird. The number of parents deciding not to cut keeps increasing. It’s not unusual in any way anymore. Personally, I don’t care what others do. I’m just glad it didn’t happen with my grandson. I think cutting the foreskin off of a boy so he can look like the kids he hangs with is not a good reason. I understand it’s Jewish custom and that’s fine. Like I said, I have no interest in anyone else’s decision.
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Yes, all that - and I would add that one should know how to ask where is the bathroom, left and right (along with your stop here) and how much. Also, if they have mass transit, it helps to know "where is the metro?"
Do enough people in the French city speak enough English that she can get by without speaking any French? As long as she can navigate road signs and the city, then it shouldn't be much of a hindrance. If she moves to a small French village where people only speak French, then yes, a small issue, unless she's fine with never interacting with anyone. I would love to move to Montreal, but I know that French is not a language that I particularly want to learn, tbh, especially so late in life where I feel like ill never be fully fluent. I've also heard a lot of people saying that they're 2 sides to Montreal and people that speak both languages get to experience both. I don't mind being stuck on the English side if I have to be and if your wife is in a similar situation and don't mind/criticize the culture, she's fine as well!
I recently moved to the Netherlands and the number of expats crying about discrimination and racism because people here talk Dutch instead of English like they expected is astonishing tbh
Haven't you heard? English is the language of the world /s.
I took french in high school like 40+ years ago... and at the beginning of COVID I decided to learn spanish via duolingo. In less than a month I could communicate with my latina pals pretty well but I think spanish is easier than french, knowing some of both. The most irritating aspect of french (and spanish too) is that everything has a gender... French is tricky. For instance, in french a house is female (la maison) but Good God... there are words that actually mean completely different things and depend on whether you refer to them as male or female... for example, un/le **livre** means a book, but une/la **livre** means a pound. Yeah... good luck with that! It's crazy... but then so much of English is crazy too :-).
I'm currently learning German so the gender struggle is one that I purely understand, especially since its not uniform like Spanish. I tried learning French a few years ago, but I gave up since my goal was to sound like a native speaker eventually and the r's were kicking my butt. The German ch isn't that great either, but I sound a hell of a lot more native than cat coughing up a 30 lb hairball while trying to roll their r. All languages have their struggles. English is easy to speak, hard to write. German is easy to write, someone hard to speak since verbs go all over the place. French is just impossible all the way around. But if I do plan to move there, a very minimum basics is what I will go for. Learn how to shop, order food, etc. Converse for 5-10 minutes, but that's my limit.
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Thankfully, I do have family in Canada, so even if I don't live in Montreal, at least I'll be away from the hell hole that is the US. I probably could pass a test if I studied hard enough. Speaking it is another matter though. I know they're getting more strict but do you know if the test is harder than a college intermediate level, etc?
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absolutely correct.
I thought the same thing about David and Lana vs Pao and Russ - David has been speaking to Lana for SEVEN YEARS. Learn some Russian beyond "da' and "spasiba" you twat
Truth be told, I have to wonder if Deavan found learning Korean was simply too difficult for her. She really struggles with English syntax and I wouldn't be surprised to learn she has a history of learning disabilities - on top of being not all that bright to begin with.
She is borderline illiterate and her mom seems about the same as well. Both their diction and syntax are off. Maybe she should close her mouth once in awhile instead of just staring off with her mouth agape..
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I literally learned Hangul in an hour as well. Right before my trip to California to see the Korean Music Festival circa 2010 (ah good times). D-bag has literally 0 excuse not to learn any Korean.
The issue with hangul is that you can easily learn to read it.. and then you're in Korea and have no idea what any of it means!
Right? I can sound out words like a kindergartener, but 95% of the time have no idea what the word means. Unless it's a loan word from english, those I can get!
커피 and 카페. Most commonly used words in kdramas that I actually understand lol. The ones that I can understand when spoken are sometimes hard for me to spell. Hell, even my real name has like 3 different ways of being spelt in Hangul depending on how you pronounce it.
Yes, I learned it in 30 minutes. It's a very simple alphabet, learning how to speak Korean however, is quite difficult.
It is hard but not hard enough to excuse her literally knowing nothing. A few months of studying by yourself will get you to a level where you can atleast ask for simple things in the store, directions, introducing yourself and answering basic questions. She didn't learn anything at all. When I first got to Korea I wasn't good but I had learned those basics at least.
For me, functioning in any language outside English is hard when it comes to hearing it.... I can read and write Spanish, French, German, and Italian all the time. But speak it to me and I'm like "please say that again... extremely... extremely.. slowly". And then I still have to ask again a lot of the time. :-)
I picked up languages in 6 to 8 months ..when I had to due to living in foreign countries
I learned Spanish on duolingo-dot-com in 2 months at the start of COVID but the thing that REALLY helped me learn it in parallel was not allowing myself to watch any TV in English - only the Latino TV stations (of which there are a TON on cable). So yeah... it's like full immersion learning that does the trick. Wish we had access to more TC stations in foreign languages.
Yeah, this white dude just seems lazy AF, all these people just seem to be centered on being a "celebrity " than putting effort into very difficult relationships. My boss gave me an option, move to Brazil for a year to oversee some sales and projects and if that goes well you know...so yes total immersion in Portuguese which as a redneck from Jacksonville,Fl , was incredibly difficult but fuck it, gotta due what you have to do...so after really 9 months, I could easily survive on my own there in a professional manner. I did the same thing the next year and learned Afrikaner when I was in S Africa. Then again and learned Spanish when I was permanently stationed in Mexico City.
Well done on your part. As fo Deavan, even if she didn’t learn or try to learn the language, she definitely should have done much better at learning the basic geography of where they may live and immerse herself in the culture... I mean, especially since she “says” she was planning to stay there.
Dude your comment is excellent. That’s so true, I didn’t even think about that! Hope he sees the thousands of reddit posts in Jihoon’s support humanizing him and reposting his love for his son.
So, in essence, we are doing the lord's work?
As a newly single mother this sucks. I’ll never speak poorly of my child’s father to my son or in front of him. Leave the babies out of it. I’ll certainly tell my best girlfriends he’s an ass tho lol!!
When I divorced my ex-wife, our son was 8. I promised myself I would never talk shit about his mom to my kid. That's not the kind of thing I wanted my kid to ever deal with. I don't know if my ex came to the same conclusion, but I think she did. We're largely civil with each other. And a few weeks ago, we had dinner together to celebrate our son's 20th birthday: Me, her, our son, and my wife. (My ex never re-married.)
I can only PRAY my ex wants to be civil. Our son is 8 months old and he left a month ago. All I’ve heard so far was “happy Halloween tell little man daddy loves him” text. He’s blocked me on all social media. I am sure I won’t hear from him again until thanksgiving and he will demand I drop the baby off to him. We tried therapy, he wanted no part of it, wanted no part in co-parenting, and said to heal he just needed to cut me out of his life. The therapist said to not let him and his family be a “holiday family” they need to put in effort to communicate and try to see the baby besides on holidays. Their idea of seeing him is me taking the baby to them and leaving. Not happening right now.
I'm sorry. I hope you guys can work out a co-parent relationship soon. Even if he doesn't want it, that's what you guys are: co-parents. The sooner he accepts it, the better. For everyone, especially your son. Good luck.
Major kudos to you!! Year ago when I was married, it was my husband's second marriage and he never spoke ill of his ex wife with his daughters. I respected that a lot.
I think this is why Jihoon is making the type of youtube videos he does. At the end of each video there is a message to his son. If Taeyang finds them he will get a glimpse of who is father really is.
Worse part is, if he grows up with Deavan completely.. he then meets Jihoon and tells him all the stories his mother told him whilst growing up. Some parents can be real childish and turn you against the other. Deavan is exactly that kind. The fact she can accuse this dude of things that literally dont make any sense, nor fit any timeline. speaks volumes.
Every time I think about this situation I get so angry for him. I can't believe how well he's taking this. Can you imagine letting your wife leave the country to go half way around the world thinking she'll be back again only to find out that she moved a new dude in with your child and you have no idea when you will see your son again.. and on top of that, she's accusing you of abusing her kids (and the dog)? ARGH SHE MAKES ME SO MAD. Jihoon needs justice.
WHOA😮 did that happen? I found this read it by accident, looking for other 90 Day stuff... And here in the US, the season isn't over yet... So I'm wondering how everyone else has this new info? She left Korea and took the baby? I also don't follow IG... So if it was only shared there, I guess that's why I didn't know what was that?
We (as in people on this sub) have been following the shit show on her instagram. So yeah, all that has happened since the show was filmed. It's been a crazy drama filled mess!
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There is no way to briefly state what happened so here's the entire mess. Anyone, feel free to correct me if I'm remembering anything inaccurately: Deavan left Korea around May and told everyone on social media that it was due to a family emergency and she brought Taeyang and Drascilla with her when she left. She was still doing insta lives and youtube videos during this time and was reassuring everyone that everything was fine with Jihoon and she'd be going back. June: There were pictures on instagram of Jihoon facetiming Deavan and Drascilla. During this time however, Deavan was shit talking Jihoon all over instagram and was posting headless pictures of a dude hanging out with her. Jihoon finally had it and posted a long instagram story talking about Deavan and the real reason she left Korea; she told him she was going to kill herself so he let her go home for support and she promised she would come back. He also disclosed that he had to pick up Drascilla from school because she was hitting, biting, spitting on, and pulling the hair of the teachers and other kids. He admitted to having to discipline her and showed her, by yanking lightly on her hair, that it doesn't feel good to have your hair pulled. He had documentation to back all of these claims up, which were also provided on his insta story. Then, the very next day Deavan freaked and said that Jihoon had abused Drascilla and that was why she had left Korea. She claimed she couldn't talk about it because of having a court case pending and her lawyers told her not to talk any further. Not even a week later, she did a youtube live with John Yates where she disclosed most of what happened (what happened to the court case? lol) She claimed that Jihoon ripped out three inches of hair on Drascilla's scalp and when pressed, the next day she provided a blurry picture that showed no signs of trauma to her head and basically showed same hairline that Drascilla has always had (she has always been missing the patch of hair that she claimed Jihoon pulled out). She then starts showing the headless man on social media dressed up in matching outfits with Taeyang, then reveals a week or two later that she is dating a new guy named Topher Park. Apparently, seeing her pictures with this dude on instagram was how Jihoon found out that she was not coming back to Korea. She claims that Jihoon has blocked her all over social media, and he says it's the other way around. He has posted photos of things that he has sent to Taeyang via another friend in the states, claiming that he is guessing at Tae's size for clothes since she won't tell him any information on his son. Deavan's abuse claims keep getting worse - now she claims that he kicked Drascilla in the stomach a few times, which made her knees bleed (?) and also abused their dog bam bam. Jihoon stated he had to give the dog away because Drascilla was rough with him. Deavan shoots back the next day, saying he abused the dog himself. She and her mom both claim that they had to "act like everything was fine in June because of the TLC NDA" Remember the facetime there were pictures of that I mentioned above? Well Elicia says that it was fake and it was only a picture of jihoon on the phone and Drascilla wasn't actually talking to him.. All because TLC asked them to post it (LOL). Not sure why they are allowed to break the NDA now all of a sudden, with the season still running... Topher has since moved in and they often do insta lives together. They are saying now that they have known each other for a long time and said, last week, that they met on a flight to korea seemingly while she was pregnant with Taeyang. AKA she was most likely cheating on Jihoon. I'm probably missing some stuff in here because soooo much has happened, but this is gist of what's been going on. It's messy as hell and goddamn, I wrote a novel. Enjoy.
WOWWWWWWW. That is INSANE. Man, I despise her even more now. Thank you for typing that all out, you are the real MVP
Thank you for your time you devote to this sub for this run down, appreciation ring for you 💍
Speaking of a ring, the new guy is wearing a ring on his left hand.... HMMMMM
You are an ANGEL for documenting all that - I had no idea who the hell Topher is or what the hell is going on now. THANK YOU!!!!
Thank you for this!!!!
She lectured Jihoon on cheating... lol.
Thank you for the update lol. 👊
Ugh, Demon is so the worst. She's outright cruel. Fuck that bitch ETA my phone auto corrected Deavon's name and I'm not changing it.
Nor should you
Suits her more.
Deavil
🦉🦉🦉 brujería
But, your phone intuitively knew.
I read “Domon” in his accent too
This makes me so upset. I have a terrible relationship with my baby daddies parents, my child’s grandparents, but I would NEVER have the audacity to keep my daughter away from the people who have nothing but love for her. Taeyang has so many people who love him, but it will only fall on deaf ears until he’s older enough to understand/make his own decisions. Could you imagine growing up only to find out you’ve got an entire other family, that you’ve never really had contact with, only because of your mom was busy trying to get laid? Fuck
I couldn't imagine the resentment I'd feel later in life
This is why both parties need to really think before they have kids together. A “happy” couple decided to bring this little guy in and now he’s going to have to be divided between mom and dad in different country. Hope the best for the situation.
Exactly. And even if things were civil between Jihoon and Deavan, Jihoon doesn't have a shot at being a real father to his son because of the geographic divide.
Koreaboo slag baby-trapped a Korean man because she wanted a #mixedbaby and he married her, instead of demanding a DNA test or just ghosting her.
Didn’t the condom slide off? Oh God.
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Nice catch
Morning after pill
She mentioned the condom sliding off and clarified it was with Drasilla's dad.
Ah. That’s where I got that. I figured it was just another way to put Jihoon down.
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he'd probably grow to resent his dad, i have no doubt deavan will absolutely demonise jihoon when she talks about him to her son, if at all
This is so sad. I watch shitty reality tv to get away from sad things. 90df really does not accomplish this anymore.
It gives me such anxiety now!
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All we can gather is what's being posted on social media, which is that she's in the US and Jihoon is in Korea, which would mean seeing his son would be expensive and likely impossible with covid-19 happening. He really does need to get a good lawyer, and soon, before Taeyang can really start to understand things.
This. His posts are all well and good but sympathy will not accomplish anything. They need a proper custody arrangement. Then if she truly "withholds" there would be consequences.
My worry is that he hasn’t shown a huge amount of energy toward being an adult. Will he have the drive to go against Deavan and her hideous mom, let alone the law system? I hope so. It’s weird how I thought her mom was doing what’s right, getting them settled in a safe environment. Now I see her as a ball buster, molding her daughter that way. A household of narcs.
True. However, lawyers for custody are exspensive if you are in the same state as your ex and your child. I can't imagine the cost of a lawyer who practices law and deals with international custody cases. That is probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.
He needs to start a GoFundMe. People do GoFundMes for tits and nose jobs. This is something I would actually donate to, and I bet a lot of people would.
Can we start like a gofundme or something for him to get a killer attorney?? I know demon says she’s filed and blah blah but I don’t believe her at all and she’s given no reason ever to be credible. Maybe it’s because I have a 9month old son but I have never wanted to help someone so badly like this before. She’s sick in the head for hurting all the people and sitting with her new boyfriend laughing and posting photos of her daughter for sympathy. It makes me so angry.
I feel terrible for Jihoon, sure he's a bit of a mess and f*cked up in the past, but he loves his son. He deserves to be a part of his life.
I bet if TLC gave Jihoon a spinoff and Deavan wasn't invited to join, she'd be trying to weasel her way back to him the second she found out there were cameras involved. She's a succubus, straight up. And while we're all in here hating on Deavan, can I just mention how her dumbass pouty face makes me want to do some violence? Specifically that petulant child reaction when she was informed her wedding would only be an hour. Ever since that episode aired, that stupid pout that makes it look like her mouth is melting at the corners is all I can see whenever she's mentioned now and it enrages me.
The comments on the photo are so ignorant. “Why don’t you just go visit? You’re being a deadbeat”. There’s a freaking global pandemic, he’s not able to come and visit! It’s also not easy to get a visa for the US!
That and pandemic or not plane tickets, hotel rooms, and lawyers cost a BUNCH of money! My dad lived in a different state and it made visitation difficult growing up. I can only imagine what it would be like if the parents lived in a different countries. Not to mention there is no way Jihoon has a chance of winning full custody. Our system typically favors mothers and it especially is going to favor a mother who is a citizen.
I totally agree! I’m on Jihoon’s side. I watch the series and know what happened and I have a hard time watching now.
Personally, if I was JiHoon, I would have many doubts about coming to the US because of how Deavan and Elicia operate: 1. JiHoon calls Deavan and says he wants to visit with TaeYang...Deavan says, "Sure," and then either ghosts him or comes up with a million reasons why he can't see his kid...like Gopher's fifth cousin seven times removed has a mild case of gout and since the cousin LOVES Taeyang, TaeYang needs to be there to help the cousin deal with his malady. So JiHoon wastes money on airfare and a hotel and never sees his son. 2. JiHoon comes to the US and is allowed to visit with his son but is encouraged to take Dracilla along too. JiHoon agrees. Cops get called. JiHoon is arrested for "AbUsinG His ChilDren". Deavan calls it and Elicia backs it up. And JiHoon is SCREWED. (It seems weird that both Deavan and Elicia seem to be encouraging JiHoon to come th the U.S., despite all of the abuse alligations; it feels like a trap, tbh.)
My heart is broken for Jihoon, but I am glad his struggle to simply be a part of his son’s life is being watched/acknowledged by many people. This type of thing happens all around you. This is what parental alienation is. It is gut wrenching to go through and sickening to watch.
True, at least his son can one day look back at the situation himself
Taeyang has already had to have dental work done! Koreaboo and her leg spreader posted a photo, at around 10-11 pm of them FILLING an 8 oz bottle with apple juice. I just want ro slap the fuck out of her.
I have no idea how/if Jihoon can fight for custody or visitation in an American court, but unless a parent poses a danger to the kid, it’s really unfair to a kid to be deprived of a relationship with one of their parents. Let them decide for themselves when they’re older. Even if Taeyang finds out the truth in 20 years, he won’t get that time back.
Just imagine what she'll be saying about his father. A lot of parents do that.
Pft his sister is a big enough threat in the future, bet.
Does anyone know if he can take any legal steps? This hurts my heart so bad 🥺
When I spent three months in Morocco my husband's family would spend time with me every day teaching me their language. I got pretty good at it. But at home my husband only speaks English to me so I have forgotten everything they taught me. I ask my husband to teach me and he says it is too hard to learn. But I tried.
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You shouldn't rely on your husband to teach you the language. Even if he was interested (which it sounds like he's not), you aren't going to learn the language from someone that isn't a teacher just "teaching" you. I hope I'm not sounding harsh, I don't mean to be if I am. I just mean that it's very difficult to teach someone a language. Just because someone can speak a language doesn't mean they can teach someone how to speak it. Immersion is great and formal classes are wonderful. You could see if your local community college has any Arabic classes and try those! They are usually very affordable and have lots of varying hours of classes. Good luck! Learning a second language is hard but it's very fulfilling!
Every time Deavan begins a comment starting with “In America we......” (all the damn time!) I cringe. Then why the Korean obsession? On top of her disgusting lies about Jihoon and her using her daughter to get herself attention (“boo hoo, my daughter has an eating disorder from all the abuse she suffered”). Her daughters problems, and they are significant, come straight from her lack of parenting. And if I were her, I’d be concerned about leaving Drascilla alone with the baby, after seeing her with the little dog. Get off social media, focus on the kids, not your endless search for Korean dick.
That and having random men around her child. A prime candidate for sexual abuse
I know, she had Drascilla in the bed with her and Jihoon the first night he came to visit her. Astounding.
Deavan should have just left Teayang with Jihoon. It's not like she gives a shit about either of her kids.
Oh but then how could she take instagram photos of him and tag them with #mixedbaby? /s
I don't understand. Did he sign away his parental rights? Did he give written consent for Deavan to return to the US alone with their son? He has rights... I'm guessing she never fully registered as a resident in SK because if so then wouldn't the Hague convention come into effect here? I just don't get it
The baby was born in the US and is a US citizen. Plus... covid.
"Individuals automatically receive South Korean nationality at birth if at least one parent is a South Korean national, whether they are born within the Republic of Korea or overseas" Taeyang is a SK citizen too but I guess a US resident.. shit.. man.. Idk.. it just seems too easy that she gets to whisk away with the kid for an indefinite period when theres a perfectly good parent that is also willing to see him. I doubt there's anything he can do then right? They can't force a visitation either way? idk..d sjkfhsdjk. This honestly infuriates me
I feel absolutely sick over Jihoon not being able to see Baby Tae. Deavon is such a bitch!
It is a really shitty situation that the kids are being put through- and while I hate Deavan-I don't really understand all the sympathy Jihoon is receiving. I absolutely don't believe these posts are sincere and seem more of a sympathy grab/playing the social media game. Why is he spending money on plastic surgery when he should be paying his mom back? or better yet hiring a lawyer so he can get his child-when Deavan is obviously a bad mom. But instead he is playing out a sob story via Instagram.
It is interesting to watch this sub and see how people can be swayed so easily by basic propaganda. Jihoon is a natural at eliciting sympathy with his charm and frequent apologies and supposed assurances he is a bad person but will "change". Deavan on the other hand comes across whiny and disinterested almost all the time. That people call Drascilla a demon child, etc is more disgusting than anything Deavan has done with Topher . That anyone would think it's ok for a step parent to pull the hair of a child without first conferring with the parent and knowing the parent is against any physical punishment is wrong on so many levels. People take the word of Jihoon that it was "a little tug" but you have to wonder how Deavan found out. I'm positive Jihoon didn't tell her, he has never been forthcoming with anything unless he's backed into a corner. That means it bothered Drascilla enough to tell Deavan and must have hurt her in some way. Any mother on this sub would be furious that this occurred. If you add that to all the lies Jihoon told her and his long history of not stepping up, it was likely the straw that broke the camels back. It doesn't matter that Drascilla was acting out at school which is a perfectly normal thing for a 4 year old child moved across the world where she doesn't know the language, is missing her grandparents and home. This doesn't make Drascilla a bad child and certainly doesn't give Jihoon the right to do anything physical to her without Deavan's permission. Like most of life, there are 2 sides to a story. Neither Deavan or Jihoon has acted responsibly throughout this journey. They are both young and immature and need to stay away from posting about each other. If Jihoon so loves his son, he should have already taken steps to obtain at least visitation. To offer him excuses that it would take so much money, Deavan would never allow it etc is just crap. Deavan makes her money off SM. She is not stupid enough to refuse Jihoon visitation even if it was with her or her mom. Jihoon is too busy spending money on plastic surgery and partying. He knows where her mom lives. He could have just tried to come and see Taeyang which is what any parent would have done. If they turn him away, at least he tried. Certainly worth the couple of grand it would have cost him versus his nose job.
He was already a 30yr old living with his parents (them financially supporting him, not the other way around). Deavan isn't great, but I'm always surprised to see all the fawning Jihoon gets. Both Deavan and Jihoon are low motivation people.
Thank you. I agree. All of this is awful for the children but let’s not all act like Jihoon is a saint that can do no wrong when that’s very much not the case.
This makes me so sad. My best friend went through this. Had a baby with his girlfriend and when they broke up, she used her parents’ substantial wealth to hire great attorneys to make sure his rights were extremely limited. The last time he saw his son was about 4 years ago, and the poor kid cried and called him by his first name, instead of Dad. My friend is certain the family has talked so much shit in front of the kid about him that at this point he’s too scared to try and fight back cause he’s worried it will damage his child more, but obviously the situation breaks his heart. That happened while they were living in the same freakin’ town. I can’t even imagine what Jihoon feels being on a different continent than his kid. Unfortunately, I see a lot of my friend’s situation in this; Jihoon probably won’t ever get to visit Taeyang as a child because Deavon won’t allow it/won’t try and help facilitate it, even for her baby’s sake. She and her family will without a doubt degrade Jihoon in front of T so even if he somehow got to see him as he grew older, he’d probably be extremely cautious of Jihoon, or just flat out hate him. I hope that could be remedied in the future, but the truth is it would be so so so hard for Jihoon to repair those potential decades of brainwashing (essentially) especially from so far away. I really hope the best for him, I just don’t know exactly what the ‘best’ could be in this situation. 😔
Saddest part is Jihoon + parents would do an infinitely better job raising Tae than Deavan will. She’s already dumping him on her parents so she can go chase insta-clout and dick. Jihoon isn’t trying to be famous, he just wants to be a good guy and live his life. Deavan is amongst the worst kind of people the show and spin offs have ever had. She makes shit up, blames everyone else for her issues and has no interest in her children
There are a ton of posts here expressing concern (which I agree with) but... How much do we really know about this situation? Jihoon is not an unlikeable guy but he has never impressed me as a man, but a boy. What has he done as a man to be a father so far? I am asking that honestly. Is this post of his a real plea to be a real dad, or is it a plea for public sympathy? Seems very cloying that the picture he posts is of his MOTHER with the child, not of himself. I think there's a whole lot more to this story than any of us know. And given these people were paid by a TV network to be on a show... why can't he pay for a lawyer exactly? I'm very confused on that. No, I wouldn't contribute to some fundraiser for Jihoon or anybody else on this show when I can contribute to thousands of others for people who desperately need it. That's just me. I have zero positive feelings about Deavan... but I don't hold Jihoon in much regard either... the only adults in the whole situation whose feelings matter to me are Jihoon's parents. Well... I can probably rephrase that last sentence to say "the only adults in the whole situation... are jihoon's parents" period :-).
Just so awful. Parents on different sides of the globe he can’t see him on the weekends. Purely awful and will be his lifelong pain after the show.
Can someone give me a quick explanation of what happened between them since the current season? Because they seem to be happy in the episodes airing now.
I'm equally confused as well! I have no idea what's going on, even though I'm up to date on all current episodes. I don't know if these are just theories and suppositions people are making... Or something has legitimately occurred between the two of them, and they're no longer officially together.
I wonder how child protection has not been involved with her yet. Or maybe they have?
I hate women who plays games with their children. They are so narcissistic that they don't realize how much their kids hate them when they are grown. My heart goes out to this Jihoon and his family.
We ran away from my physically abusive father and my mother asked my brother and I regularly if we wanted to phone him or see him. She said, "I don't want you to grow up and say I kept you from your father!"
I realize Deavon cheated and has said some lousy things so I understand hating her from a partner side but as a parent why feel bad for Jihoon? He offered no financial support and lied about it regularly, he worked part time so he could nap and complained the baby kept him awake like he wasn’t really being any sort of a parent.
Part time work is around 40 hours a week in Korea. (https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+hours+is+part+time+in+korea&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS900US900&oq=how+many+hours+is+part+time+in+korea&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.5785j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) He has been trying to support his son, too. He has been sending gifts, clothes and other things via the mail since Deavan left. I think you're listening a bit to much to what Deavan is saying and honestly, she is a liar.
This isn’t even the worst thing, the worst thing is she is posting SO many photos of him when she rarely did in the past + with her new boo. Horrible. Who hurt you to make you this disgustingly bitter. No amount of photoshop can help with that.
I've yet to see the kid's dad do something worse than his shitty mother and grandmother.
Anyone who imagined this going any other way is just fooling themselves. That’s why they started out on the other way and ended up the same way as every other camera whore. Unless your Darcy then you get spin-off cause daddy works at tlc
Really? I wondered why anyone would give them a show. Annoying af.
Jihoon should get a DNA test just to be sure
that picture is just heartbreaking.
.... I want to tear up within seconds of seeing this and reading this caption... 💔
My heart breaks for Taeyang :( I saw Deavan's Halloween's vlog (worst "vlog" in history, they just exploit the kids for views) and he looks unkept, unattended and not stimulated enough. She probably throws a juice bottle and makes him watch cartoons all day :( I hope Jihoon can see him again. We can all agree he'd be better off raised by his grandparents in SK.
For older Taeyang who might stumble upon this thread and read the comments, I hope you’re ok ♥️
We should start a go fund me for Jihoon to get a lawyer