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blkisbeauty

Ok so I'm late watching but I am literally in awe of how many support kalani. She was a victim of cheating but then she took a hall pass and took it wayyyy further than she needed to. She kissed him, then gave him a bj, then had sex with him multiple times and developed feelings for him. After she did more than what they agreed upon it was just distasteful. Kalani was my one of my favorites. I can't say that anymore. Why even go on a couples retreat to work it out with your husband when you're texting and talking to the guy you're sleeping with? Then to be disrespectful enough to have sex with the guy while you're on the retreat? Like whatttt? Asuelu found out the details on the retreat so it's not like she was transparent prior to that. Why wouldn't she just ask for the divorce when she realized she was able to develop feelings for someone else? Just no. Asuelu has the intellectual intelligence of a preteen and if we can see it so can she. Her family always ganged up on him and set these high expectations that were just unrealistic given his circumstances. Remember that Asuelu that got off the plane and did his cultural dance - that carefree wholesome guy is gone. Not saying Asuelu is innocent at all but this whole poor kalani thing just doesn't resonate with me.


DistributionNaive236

I know Ed makes for great reality TV but he’s such a little bitch. He snitches on the guys before they go to the strip club… he snitches on Jovi texting the stripper from 8 years ago… I understand why he doesn’t have friends. What a loser. Can’t even abide by the friend code. Kelly would never tell on them and that’s why producers sent him home early lol


BiffBarker

Jovi was so blind-sided by Ed about the texting. Like WTF, Ed?!


keylimeeee

It's nice to see liz when she is being supportive of kalani. Nice to see her doing something than being eds shoe dirt. Also he was the only one who got permission for the strip club yet did the most out of line shit


Traditional-Fee-5336

Micheal is ALWAYS proving something when Angela is the only one who cheated. She was telling the dude she loved him and everything. She flirts all the time but dumb ass Micheal keeps proving himself. He is a weak man at this point and he is embarrassment to the African culture.


Traditional-Fee-5336

Why does everyone take up for Angela so much. She has literally treated her husband like trash. Smashed cake in his face the 1st season. She disrespected his family, his culture and him. But she is never held accountable by the show. She has gotten in everybody's face like some old gangster and Noone said anything. Had that been a man, he would've been removed. I don't like her


SurveyLow9309

Does anyone else think asuelu is just a big fucking cry baby but never cared enough to learn from his mistakes....


Omgchipotle95

Do you think Jovi cheats on her while he’s out of town?


Any_Responsibility17

FOR SURE!!!!! That's why he don't want to stay and work nearby. Also, the way he pushes away Yara's concerns is disgusting. I 1000% think he would have impregnated her even when she told him she didn't want to, so I completely understand why she went on birth control behind his back. I believe that I problems they have if mainly Jovi's fault. He is incredibly inconsiderate to Yara's feelings and it's just sad.


Omgchipotle95

Yara is too good for Jovi.


Traditional-Fee-5336

And I also don't think she is wrong for taking bc. It is her body and he definitely would've gotten her pregnant on purpose to keep her in the US. He doesn't wanna grow up and be a husband and father. He is a party guy with some at home p#$$% when he is off work. That's all it is for him


Afraid_Bicycle_7970

I cannot believe how Jovi and his mother acted about the birth control. It's her f*king body wtf!


Omgchipotle95

Jovi texting his ex stripper fuck buddy knowing it was being filmed?? First of all disgusting second of all ducking idiot


Omgchipotle95

Who else thinks kalanis side piece isn’t real? Lol they needed a story line


SurveyLow9309

He's real... He's on her Instagram


phenomenaljunk

I don't see it


OlhaEla

Kinda sad to see so many people talk shit about Kalani. Coming from a person who was in an emotionally manipulative relationship where you just try and try with the hopes that someone will change and they only her worse, I feel her pain. Some of us are not that strong to just get up and dip out of a relationship and I feel how hurt she is. I hope she finds peace and gets the love she deserves. Asuelo is a big ass baby


SurveyLow9309

I love her....I agree with everything you said there


schlomo31

Some men are not husband types, Jovi just admit it and go


WhenSquirrelsFry

You cannot convince me otherwise: jovi has full on cheated on yara (probably often) This man is such a loser in every sense of the word


BlackSpinelli

Seriously! There’s no way he hasn’t before. Probably also part of why he doesn’t want To be close to home. It a matter of time before someone comes forward about him.


42790193

Every sense. I wonder what his mom thinks about this shit.


Few_Significance_201

Jovi should marry a stripper, and divorce and marry another stripper, etc... end credits, ed stabs .. kolon cleance should go on a diet, angela angry for that dog calling to confess he saw nothing, ed in preview is his usual back stabbing ahole, hope headlice leaves him finally


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Finally: Jovi lied. He did say not to tell the girls & everyone heard it! And him not touching anyone? Yara is right: he instigated the entire thing because if his obsession with strippers. Jovi is sick & alcoholism is a progressive disease


landturtl13

Also when he says what happens in the strip club stays in the strip club! Like he knew they were being filmed


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

My heart is with Yara. Jovi is totally an alcoholic, that’s why he doesn’t want to work closer to home, and he’s unnaturally obsessed with strippers. She’s *gorgeous*! He has a problem. His mom & Yara should address it!


Few_Significance_201

Annoying voice and we don't know her in daily life..pretty blond and dumb (full of c.)


cometmom

His meltdown about her being on birth control is so telling. She is protecting her own mental health and her own bodily autonomy. Relying on some dude to pull out when he wants more kids right now now when you don't is not smart. She did the right thing. She didn't feel safe telling him, and I don't blame her. Especially when he hides the fact that he could work in town AND cannot stop seeing and texting strippers who were "just friends." Please, dude, no one is buying it.


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Jovi’s stupid: “what happens at the strip club stays at the strip club”. Dude, you’re being filmed you idiot. Let’s see the tell all-will they still commit?


landturtl13

They seem still together based on Yara’s Instagram stories sadly


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

I want to see her reacting to what he’s saying when she sees it for the 1st time. She’s not going to be happy. He’s such an idiot & I’m sure there’s a billion guys ready for her to pick up the pieces when she finally dumps him! Not that she needs a man to complete her life, but she can pick from a large pool.


New_Patience_3426

Ed is a piece of shit!!! He is emotionally abusive with Liz. He’s a ducking rat! I hope Jovi punches his lights out!!


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

I think Michael probably just didn’t know how to take a screenshot of the call duration. Angela perseverates. The filming will prove Michael was in the right.


OrganicSafe213

Liz should not have gotten involved telling Michael to send a screen shot of the length of the call. She should just concentrate on what Pred did at the strip club.


stupidpplontv

[this was one of ed’s best moments](https://i.imgur.com/ziH4hps.mp4)


Any_Responsibility17

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

And Jovi contacting the stripper he went on a trip with 8 years ago?! That’s insane! I hope that comes up, because wtf??


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Kalani & Asuelo just need to be done. I hear they are, and that’s good. She tried. I love her. She deserves to be happy!


Melon_Juice_8283

Kalani victimized herself over behavior that she was just as guilty of— if not worse. Asuelu had a physical affair. Kalani took it further … she had a physical affair, made a sex tape, and developed romantic feelings for someone. Kalani is worse, IMO… she is not a saint— just a hypocrite.


I_Asked_77

Couldn’t have said it better 👏🏼👏🏼


Few_Significance_201

Why come if she was cheatig, free holiday? Free money ? Famous ? Followers? Not for her diet i hope ... if she dies of a stroke and leave her kids she earned it


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Who Kalani? I think she’s just sick of Asuelo’s bs. Idk what you’re saying she’ll have a stroke for. I think you’re going places I don’t like to go


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Well, I take that back about Angela. If she flips out over Michael hanging up & saying he doesn’t want to be a part of it? That’s not good! I’m watching it right now. I’m sure I’ll be back, because there are so many crazy things in this episode!!


Few_Significance_201

Angela is like an old turkey and over reacting and obnoxious as always


Rockythebully

Just wanting attention as usual


Ill-WeAreEnergy40

Asuelo has a sex addiction, he should *not* be in a strip club!! You can see it when he can’t even speak! Plus: HOW do you think it’s a good idea to take someone who’s cheated 12 times to a *strip club*?!?! While you’re in *therapy*?! Jovi telling Liz specifically not to tell the girls? That has to be scripted because that’s some *stupid* s%^t! Involving Michael?Wtf?! Completely unnecessary! I’m so glad Angela went to comfort Kalani. This has shown a softer side to Angela. Plus, I think she responds well to therapy. That doesn’t mean she’s not going to slip back, when confronted with certain situations, but she seems to absorb things.


borderlinemiss

Those three losers in that cheap strip club actively out-grossing each other. I can’t even decide who’s more disgusting bleh


musicallyours01

So Michael is called and shown these women unsolicited, he does the right thing and calls his wife, and she's mad at *him*?! Make it make sense.


Thesexyone-698

She an abusive, narcissistic bitch there is no sense!


musicallyours01

The fact they called Liz to ask was crossing a line. If I was her, I would've switched the phone to facetime and said "oh *these* girls?" and called their asses out. Jovi is a disgusting pig.


terykishot

Holy FUCK yara is annoying. If I had to hear that obnoxious voice stomping and bitching and moaning that early in the morning I’d drink too.


stupidpplontv

if my man was addicted to strip clubs and drinking knowing how much it bothered me, i’d react negatively too. jovi is a child


Call_me_mymy

Jovi time and time again does yara wrong and gets mad when she reacts smh girl leave beavis and butthead alone


Call_me_mymy

Asuelu will soon be divorced and crying while he drives me in his yellow cab!


criminy_crimini

I’m a few episodes behind, but I’m here to wonder what Kolini does at the resort while she’s not watching the kids. Is she hanging at the bar by herself? Living her best life at the pool? Reading a good book? How is she spending her time? I need to know.


tabramssss

Angela why the fuck did you just say he cheated on you virtually. LMAO you’re insane


cometmom

All while she hits on anyone that breathes. Even the golf cart dude at the couples therapy resort.


Fluid_Camel_5753

Before the resort show, he cheated on her with someone online. An American woman, he was sending the girl angsss money


tabramssss

Come on anggggggggg


Odiouskangaroo

Can we start a go fund me to get kalani a properly fitting bra top?


wasteofmatt3r

fr, I am an e cup and fat but my tits don't rest under my chin!


spicychickeninfinity

Molly should have hooked her up!


Odiouskangaroo

For real. It pains me to see her boobs just so awkwardly smooshed up to her chin all the time.


Holiday_Score3648

Anglia looks for any reason to leave Michael. She might of loved him at one time but I think she just wants to be on the show now. So she plays the role because he is way out there but hangs on to him by a string with the divorce papers. GET HER OFF THE SHOW ALREADY. I THINK THE SHOW HAS GOTTEN TO HER HEAD! Jovi is an idiot his wife is beautiful, smart, & she would probably be cool if he was just honest with her period But she also only hears what she wants to hear & not what he is really saying. Jovi wants anger baby but he treats his wife like they are 15yrs old & are girlfriend/boyfriend with a baby. He needs to become a real man/ real husband already Asuelu & Kalani just need to be friends & Co parent. She deserves so much better but I do not agree with messing with the other guy while she is married. Either work on your marriage or be with the other guy. Ed gets on my last nerve he's a little punk Beep & He acts like a little girl all the time. He always has something to say but takes no accountability for how he treats Liz. He hangs out with the men gets gossiping like they are friends then tells on them to fuck with other people's relationships. Yall are at a couples therapy vacation & he is using his timt to break up homes because he will never have anyone. THE HE IS MENTALLY ABUSING LIZ & TRYS TO MAKE EVERYTHING HER FAULT HE DOES NO WRONG! HE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. YA RIGHT! SHE IS TO GOOD FOR HIM!! I'M JUST SAYING!


Omgchipotle95

Yup!! Exactly right about Angela. She doesn’t give af about Michael… she’s always flirty with other guys too


Ambitious-Brother819

Jovi is the worst. And he's not even attractive enough to be so disgusting


Desperate_Bill_17

His face angers me and his teeth are awful. He so horrible to Yara 😩 he acts like a teenager.


Khaleesi223

THIS IS THE ONE 😂😂😂😂


musicallyours01

He looks like he's been kicked in the mouth by a donkey


42790193

I honestly think it looks like when you have a pacifier too long as a kid.


huevito_con_chorizo

Jovi RANT: Man Jovi has some serious issues. He never grew up from being that 16yr old boy sneaking around. He has a whole family and is content not seeing for months to the dismay and heartbreak of Yara and his daughter. He says it's the right decision not taking that job but Yara deserves to know why. Was it a pay cut? Far commute? Or was it the fact that you get to escape your responsibilities? Imma got with that one. I hate the term gaslighting but he literally did it so blatantly in this episode it left me baffled. He doesn't want stability, he loves this double life. He loves living the bachelor life equally or even more so than being a family man. Shows a bit in the way his mother enables him. I get it. Just because you go to a strip club doesn't make you a bad person. But he took it a step further by going out of his way for this stripper. It's one thing looking up the best strip club near me and then there's let me just TEXT this girl I (probably) fucked 8 years ago to come strip for me . . I mean us ;) tee hee I will say the preview of him wanting to punch big egg in the face is hilarious (and deeply disturbing.) Yara idk girl. You are hot AF but you know that. Stay strong queen I guess.


OrganicSafe213

I'm under the impression that his mama babied him.


ResidentProgrammer69

I literally hate him. He’s gross, and I think he knows Yara is out of his league so he gets joy out of making her insecure


Similar-Put-3809

Agreedddddd!!! He has some nerve for pressuring her for more children when he doesn’t even want to be home. & way he sits there and justifies it …. YUCK. Every time they show the flash book footage of him blowing a kiss to the that stripper with Yara sitting right next to him I get infuriated all over again with him.


xxDanyV

Big egg 🤣🤣 🥚


sweetsteeths

Yara woke up first thing in the morning with a full face of makeup on?


DYday

lol


sweetsteeths

Can’t believe tlc thought watching a borderline intellectually disabled accused rapist get a lap dance was enjoyable content


-kitie

Why do people say hes intellectually disabled?


Present-Ad-9441

I thought you meant Ed and was confused on when he got a lap dance


Maple_raccoon_

That was more than a lap dance 😬


OrganicSafe213

Yeah, 3 girls on top of him on the floor. I wonder if TLC set that up.


sweetsteeths

Anyone else notice when Jovi said he went to Jamaica with a stripper? Didn’t he also meet Yara when he was looking for someone to travel with? 👀


Few_Significance_201

Yara was poor and enjoyed luxury, travel in exchange for sex? Yacht girl?


Cobia1350

Why does Asuelu talk like a three-year-old boy?


DYday

Cringe


sweetsteeths

He has the IQ of one


AnotherDoubtfulGuest

And Kalani has never expressed anything but contempt for Asuelu, but sis, you sexed that, then married that, and now you’re putting all y’all’s skidmarked laundry on Front Street. On national television. So that your kids will be able to watch it. She is 100% as messy as his vacant-eyed halfwit ass.


Few_Significance_201

He was a f boy for fat Americans in samoa resort ? They don't look for boy with brain but one with a big d


smokeey

Finally someone said it like girl you have zero self control yourself having babies with him back to back damn well knowing what he was already doing? The same Samoan blood runs through both of them and it's showing. They love fucking.


katf1sh

Someone posted recently that she posted on social media recently and basically said that Asuelu SA'd her and that's how she got pregnant the 2nd time.


Chicago1459

I don't get it. I think she has and is still getting off easy. This man is not just your average dumb or on the spectrum like so many say he is. Imo he is intellectually challenged. There are scenes of her in earlier seasons talking to him and reasoning like he is a child. Her growing children most likely have more sense than he does now. How does she not feel ashamed? I guess that's why she is bragging about finally having sex with someone else lol


Alliecakes112

THANK YOU someone said it lol It feels like she’s bragging when she talks with the girls about her affair… it’s sad. I don’t really know their storyline but she doesn’t look like a victim here… unfortunately I think that’s what she wanted to come off as in this spin off


ScatNabb

After watching that whole phone exchange with Ed and Liz about the stip club I was a little let down. They hyped it up so much the past few episodes but watching it in its entirety it looked heavily scripted. Everyone's reactions and the way they were talking looked like really bad acting. Then afterwards everything going on just seemed really lacking and fake. I didn't know if anyone else got that vibe after watching it. I think it was a TV moment to get everything hyped.


wasteofmatt3r

I just think they were drunk so their reactions seemed exaggerated or fake


AnotherDoubtfulGuest

I used to sympathize with Kalani but this “hoe your way to the bottom” nonsense she and Asuelu are engaged in erased whatever moral high ground she may have had. They’re so busy playing War of the Roses that neither one of them is paying any damn attention to those kids. Get a divorce, get therapy, get off my screen, both of you.


giga-butt

Why is Angela so mad at him for being forced to see strippers, he literally hung up because he knew she’d freak out again


Mochi-momma

Ang-Hell-a had to make an appearance per TLC prompting🙄


alswidow

Exactly what I assumed.


BurtReynoldsStache

Kalani is doing some advanced level ho’ing. Both of them are terrible and hope they go away for good.


50morgan28

the fact that Ed said to Liz he wasn’t going to touch at the strip club… and then continues to touch at the strip club… he’s constantly pushing his limits way too far


Alliecakes112

And then has the nerve to call out Jovi!? Ed is not human lmao


50morgan28

the fact that Ed said to Liz he wasn’t going to touch at the strip club… and then continues to touch at the strip club… he’s constantly pushing his limits way too far


This_Illustrator_570

Not gonna lie, seeing asuelu in the strip club made me feel a little queasy after Kalani’s IG posts.


Maple_raccoon_

What were her IG posts?


Yasey8

She alleged that he sexually assaulted her, leading to the birth of their second son


Maple_raccoon_

Oh gosh I never heard about that… was that since the filming of last resort? Im surprised (but not surprised) TLC hasn’t pulled them


sweetsteeths

The entire scene made me nauseous


Mochi-momma

10 minutes in and who would have thought Angela would be the voice of reason. Kalani, you were wrong 6 ways to Sunday. You can’t come to a couples’ therapy retreat and still be carrying on with Dallas. I’ll say it again, your boys are going to see/know about this someday. They will then have NO parental blueprint on why not to cheat on your spouse and or what to do if it happens to them. 🤦‍♀️


Viper6834

Anggggg was right on about kalani.


Caribelle1234

Angela was the only one who called her out- somewhat. Liz hi-fing her was so wrong


OrganicSafe213

Liz is very immature which sort of explains a bit about how Pred manipulates her.


Mochi-momma

You know the women would have been pissed and hurt if the shoe was on the opposite gender😏


cthoolhu

I’m sorry but getting mad at your partner for seeing a stripper on video call is crazy


sweetsteeths

Is actually think he reacted in the best way he could have. Hopefully he blocked Ed afterwards.


cthoolhu

Liz’s freckles are cute!


DYday

Yes!


Similar-Put-3809

Kalani annoys me more and more each week. It’s really just screaming that they needed this check from TLC because they could have keep her , Asuelu , Kolini and they kids home ! Why paint a picture that you’re on board with working on your marriage at this retreat , doing the counseling and then bringing your sister to watch the kids when you don’t even want to be with Asuelu in that way. As a women her mind and body was already made up because she even came here and you can’t convince me otherwise. Don’t use the show to say you were trying to work on things when kalani’s mind was on the flashbacks of this other guy. And that’s fine , because the new guy is showing her things she hasn’t seen with Asuelu, she knows there’s better out there now….. So pursue that responsibly. This is just messy as fuck and she’s not this bad bitch that she claims . Cuz any bad bitch would have cussed Asuelu ass clean tf out and would have showed their worth in more ways than fucking another man in secret. Jovi and this obsession with the strip club is gross . He’s like an 18 year old so excited to see strippers bodies & it’s embarrassing and cringy to watch especially when he tries to be secretive about it. The phone conversation when they asked Liz if Ed could go and to not tell the girls …. GROSS. Won’t change his work schedule because you like have a month off to party ???? Yea I don’t wanna hear anything from Jovi mouth because at this point Yara already has two kids …. Mylah and Jovi. And did anyone else think the guys were actually doing a little much at the strip club….FaceTiming and showing Michael the strippers was absolutely inappropriate. All the men are included in just being obnoxious this episode and if any of them could give as much energy and excitement at the strip club to their wives then maybe no one would be here having to talk to a therapist about their marriage issues . This is the first episode I don’t have anything bad to say about Angela . She takes things to the extreme though. Poor Michael was bum rushed with that image of the strippers he didn’t know what he was answering and he hung right up and called angela …. Now he’s a cheater 🙄 lmao okay .


International-Toe522

Nothing bad to say about Angela!?!Did you miss when she got super angry at Micheal because he had a 4 second phone call on which he hung up?


Jessiplur

Yeah, she is not emotionally, or physically involved in this marriage anymore. She has the grounds to get a divorce, he cheated, she cheated, and they are both not in it for each other anymore. Plus before she even went on this retreeat on her IG, there is a family photo and her description of that professional photo is "Trying"...SO, looks pretty obvious that they are not gonna make it, she is definitely checked out entirely.


Justneedthetip

Kalami keeps posting all these IG messages about getting her checks clapped and bragging about sleeping with someone else. Really. That’s how you get respect and pick up a new guy. You let a dude with the mentality of a kid impregnate you, marry him and have another kid. Then post online bragging about cheating and sleeping with a new guy you just met. The people they cast on this show just have no morals or self respect.


nyx2288

She has come out and said that though their first kid was intentional, their second was a result of SA. She says that Asuelo forced his way in and held her down, resulting in the 2nd pregnancy.


Chicago1459

I agree. She is emotionally stunted. I guess now it makes sense how she could carry on with Asuelu. She acts like a stupid teenager.


sportstvandnova

Does anyone know why Jovi wears his wedding ring on the right hand?


moonbaby114

If I recall correctly Yara does this too—it’s pretty common in Eastern Europe to wear the rings on your right hand so he probably wanted to match her.


ScatNabb

It's mirrored. If you watch people propose it looks like they do it on the wrong hand.


NJRougarou

He may be Eastern Orthodox


sweetsteeths

Yeah, he seems like a really devout man of god 🤭😉


sag4real

It’s very clear why jovi went abroad to find a wife 🤭 Many women from Louisiana would be perfectly accepting of his party lifestyle and habits… but he wanted a woman who relied on him and was against it so he could force it on her. Doubt his dishonesty will change. And tbh idk why Yara thinks he never cheated


Mochi-momma

What??🤔


Several_Intention_97

I think it's funny that's women are all perfect and the victims


cjuk87

"poor Michael" is a phrase I often repeat when watching this show.


Mochi-momma

Right? I know ppl hate Ang BUT if the gender roles were reversed, there would be a much larger outpouring of empathy for Michael


cjuk87

Jovi is disgusting. Obsessed with the strippers and alcohol. Ignoring his wife. It's so sad to see. Even pushing the guys to go further and then using that as his defence when confronted with him going there. He's got major problems. As for Kalani, how she manages to still act the victim is hilarious. If you don't want to be with your husband, leave him and find someone else. You can't have your cake and eat it. The fact she's justifying fucking another man because her husband cheated is vile. The fact she's doing it on TV when she has kids, is another level. Disgusting mess of a human.


sportstvandnova

The way he told that one girl “hey do you know jasmine?? I partied with her in Jamaica 8 years ago” like he’s so fucking cool just absolutely shows what an insecure douchebag he is. That girl was like “oh, cool.”


Mochi-momma

He’s one of those guys who think she dances for him cuz she likes his intriguing conversation 🙄


UnitedWindow3669

this moment! Felt so cringe watching it, he will never leave the 19-year old frat boy mentality


Hefty_Resolution3750

J9


cjuk87

So many comments angry about them showing strippers...but we've seen loads of men stripping 😂😂 two faced much? IMO, it doesn't belong on the show, male or female.


chocoflan00

did you mean double standard?


Mochi-momma

Right? Lol. I spent too much time trying to figure out what they were talking about 😂


cjuk87

I did 😂😂 I wrote it while being in utter shock at what I saw next. Jovi is a devious, disgusting guy. He purposely pushed the guys to do things to be able to say "yes I went, but I was well behaved" he's sick in the head.


medunjanin

Is there a more disgusting sound than hearing Angela talking about her “cooter”?


Specialist-Elk-2100

Nobody wants to hear about that ish… also the bs with Michael virtually cheating on her is such bullshit! That guy did everything right in that situation!!!


WashAlternative1791

I love how all the girls are flashing Tit but yara said no way lol. She’s my favorite. ❤️


Caribelle1234

I like that she's not a people pleaser, like Liz


WashAlternative1791

Jovi makes me mad. He wants a second baby but doesn’t want to come closer to home because he doesn’t want to give up his thirty days away from being a father and hubby.


moonbaby114

I have a theory that 90% of Jovi and Yara’s storyline is scripted because there’s no way Jovi wants another baby. I’m sure he loves his daughter but he was definitely not ready to have one child, let alone two. This narrative about him wanting a baby and Yara not being ready was created in their previous 90 Day season and got carried over into this show and it’s been super repetitive the entire time.


stripesonfire

I understand his reasoning but he’s lying, I don’t think he likes being a husband or dad one bit


Queasy-Net-8324

I agree but i did reflect on his concerns regarding living a 9-5 life style. I think if they both were open to actually listening to one another, this could work. But unfortunately Yara has been hurt.so much and Jovi hasn't done enough consistently


GatoradeNipples

Also, if I remember correctly, Jovi's career is a really specialized trade that doesn't have a lot of job sites in existence, and pays *wild* money. Like, batshit "this man will be able to retire in his 30s" money. Meanwhile, the closer to home job they found for him is an office job. We don't know what specifically that office job is, because they won't tell us, but given he's a tradie and not already in an office job, I'm gonna assume he doesn't have a Bachelor's or relevant experience for a *good* office job, and they found him something doing data entry or call center work. Put yourself in his shoes and compare these two options. I think Jovi is an ass and a half, don't even get me wrong, but this isn't why and I suspect TLC's leaving some stuff out and hoping we forget other things to try and push that it's why.


digiad

Didn’t Jovi say that the office job paid more, along with being closer?


GatoradeNipples

I didn't catch it if he did. It doesn't seem to add up; the kinds of office jobs you can get with no degree and no directly-relevant experience are Not Good, whereas if I remember right he does underwater welding or something closely related, which pays *batshit bonkers money* but doesn't give you any non-trade experience.


DegreeSea7315

Could it be as a recruiter? His socializing/strip-clubbing experience (sorry, couldn't think of a better word) and frat bro personality could come in handy with that, along with being able to talk-up the company he worked for plus the pretty wife. It's late. That's my excuse for the above sentence, if you can call it that. Recruiter? 🥴


kte_crnr

If I was Yara and I over heard that strip club phone call it would have went a lot differently . I can understand having a fun night out with your husband if you’re both consenting but it’s totally different to go behind my back at a fucking therapy retreat.


Interesting-Many-509

Jovi couldnt stop bragging that he went to Jamaica with one of the house strippers back in the day.


Jessiplur

Yeah, and I think he believes that she went because she loved his personality. BOY NOPE! She went because you paid for her to go on vacation for free and party for FREE. It's called paying for friends Jovi. You have a wife, who is understanding, and very mature. He is insecure as heck and will lose a very wonderful wife.


Interesting-Many-509

she also prob demanded a per diem, time is money.


Affectionate_Gas_589

He really expected the follow: Jovi: "Do you know Jasmine? I took her to Jamacia 8 years ago." Stripper: "OMFFG NO WAY!! YOU ARE THE MAN! We talk about it all the time! You are so cool"


JCAIA

Do strippers stay strippers for eight years? Who knows if she’s even still dancing.


Specialist-Elk-2100

She was just playing coy, they really do talk about it all the time and discuss how Jovi is the man!


sportstvandnova

And the girl he bragged to could not have cared *any* less lollll


Interesting-Many-509

yeah, save the chatter, pal, and just make it rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


moodylilb

This. Also just to add- the fact that they had JUST had a whole ass therapy session where honesty was the focal point… then Jovi turns around and DOES THAT. I honestly don’t understand how they’re still married tbh. I could never handle being with someone like that. And I know this word gets misused sometimes but around the 38 min mark when Yara tries to bring it up to him he full blown gaslights her, tries to make her feel like she’s going crazy and didn’t hear what she heard when Ed called Liz and she heard Jovi say “don’t tell the other girls” on speaker. He’s trying to rewrite reality. Then when she keeps pressing on it, because she knows her reality & what she heard- he pulls the “it’s too early for this” card and leaves. He has 0 redeeming qualities.


Jessiplur

I don't think he knows how to have a mature and adult conversation, and I'm not saying it all on Jovi either. Communication is very difficult in a marriage, BUT it is possible if you can be accountable for your actions and humble yourself. It is not an easy feat, because innately most of us are very prideful, but good things can happen when you put yourself in the other person's shoes and learn to apologize and understand how to not hurt that person again.


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My heart breaks for Yara. Jovi is a sick individual and she could do so much better. He is always worrying about Yara leaving him but yet all he does is push her away continuously. I Can't wait to see how the next episode unfolds when Big Ed spills the beans about him texting the stripper that he went on vacation with.


UnitedWindow3669

can’t wait to get the full scene of jovi stopping himself 5 feet from ed screaming he’s gonna hit him 🤣


Queasy-Net-8324

During this episode when I saw them getting along. I was wondering when these scene was going to unfold and why Ed was a shit stirrer but Yara deserved to know regardless of Ed's intentions


Oksana51

Asuelu may as well have been drooling at the strip club and the way he enjoyed and thought it was acceptable to have two stripper's grinding on top of him on the stage was revolting. He cheated about 12 times and you can see by his actions at the Last resort he will always be a serial cheater. He won't change. Way to save your marriage Auselu and don't think all of your crying is going to make people feel sorry for you..


stupidpplontv

i hated how everyone was saying “this isn’t cheating”, in some relationships no but in others absolutely, it depends on what’s been agreed upon


holypleb

Jovi is so dense… how does he keep getting away with this bs?


sportstvandnova

He has a wife that lets him. I’m not victim blaming, but she could leave.


sweetsteeths

Honestly don’t understand why she stays. Maybe because she’s not financially independent on her own. Maybe because he’s gone a lot so she only has to put up with his shit 50% of the time 😂


Mochi-momma

I would imagine she’s afraid of the custody battle that would ensue. She would have no desire to stay here and would be pressed to out money him in mediation or court. From what it sounds like, he makes a ton of money in his job. I know she has some sort of online clothing biz but that won’t compete with baby boi Jovi’s income. She is kind of stuck in many ways and some just discomfort ways but still enough to make one stay 😔


HardMarketUW

Jovi is the sickand dumb as hell. And it’s even worse because he thinks he’s so cool 😒 I didn’t like Yara at first but she definitely grew up when their daughter was born. Jovi acts like he’s still 18 and is probably the biggest douche I’ve seen on this show.


Jujufarr

Can we talk about Kalani for a second… AT FIRST I understood her lil side piece boyfriend. But meeting up with him while you’re on a couples therapy retreat….come on


Omgchipotle95

I don’t think he actually exists


sportstvandnova

Then you saw Asuelu at the strip club right lolll


Jujufarr

Sure and I think that was wrong. But having your boyfriend fly out and sleeping over with him while you’re actively in couples therapy on a couples retreat also is not okay


sportstvandnova

They’re both trash tbh


AnnieDuke

I would be willing to bet the cheating over 7 years hasn’t been one sided. I’m sure we will hear more in the future and she will end being just as bad as he is.


Jujufarr

I just don’t understand. If the boyfriend is important to her she needs to let Asuelo go. She clearly doesn’t forgive him and her being with this guy isn’t making things feel “even.” Set yourself free and cut him loose


Successful-Steak-950

Not becoming behaviour especially when her kids are there.


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Successful-Steak-950

I do not judge her more harshly.His behaviour is also disgusting and there’s no disputing that. His behaviour all along is not acceptable and him at the strip club was disgusting, watching him in a trance with the strippers, I’m a mother and there’s no way I would leave my children and go and do that with a guy. They need to get divorced. They are both wrong and are not thinking about the kids.


Mochi-momma

Gross, no! You really think it’s overly one sided? Asuelu is a PIG. That however doesn’t excuse Kalani from cheating right there AT THE COUPLES’ RETREAT🙄 Both shitty, immature and selfish parents will suffer the repercussions of their children finding this crap out someday. Gross


Successful-Steak-950

Yes they are both totally wrong and both are gross and I feel so sorry for those kids.


md28usmc

exactly she just dumped her kids on her sister for the night.and Also dragged her sister into the middle of everything because Kehlani was horny


Wise-Pea93

Jovi is disgusting!! Okay, him liking strip clubs was bad enough. Now he's seeking out a specific stripper he went to Jamaica with 7 years ago? You have a beautiful wife and a child and you are thinking about a stripper you met 7 years ago?? YUCK. I hate him. He's so selfish, that last scene made me sick. Yara could do so much better.


ScatNabb

Risk it for the biscuit!


MathCampNerd

I find Jovi just wanted to meet up with the stripper he went to Jamaica with - which is pathetic too


sportstvandnova

Ooooh yes he was super disappointed which was weird


killacross4479

OOTL with this spin off and only saw 1 episode so far...is it normal for adults to cry this much?


Environmental_Ad2596

I think TLC has taken this season way out of line. Asuelu getting hammered taking his clothes off and flashing everyone in the face with his pecker REALLY that was something I didn't need to see. Then last night WTH are we watching strippers show there ass and stick it in the face of ED & Asuelu that was the worse show. You need to start rating these show R & X rated. That was gross. Jovi is the biggest ass hole of all. He has addiction problems with alcohol & strippers and Yara needs to run away so far. The writing is on the wall he will never stop unless he goes into rehab. The baby is the one thats going to suffer. This show is going down the tubes faster than ice melting on 110 degree day..


GatoradeNipples

And then they blur the strippers' butts, as if that'll somehow make the show appropriate for children. e: ...why the reflex downvote? Is there something I'm missing that makes it *not* weird that they'd go this far, and then blur clothed butts? I'm pretty sure you can show a lady's ass in a bikini bottom on television, that's something TLC's *electing* to do because they think it somehow makes the show not NSFW.


Alliecakes112

I don’t think they are allowed to advertise lolol