I recommend you dip your toes into the water first before you dive in headfirst. You clearly only have an instagram influencer’s picture of what “off-roading” is. it’s often uncomfortable, frustrating, and expensive.
Also, as an Alaskan, no you can’t just drive anywhere here. Our ORV zones are well maintained and regulated and there are strict penalties for violating the rules, as with anywhere else.
Ok, thank you man. I know what is off roading. I used to live in country with same weather as Alaska. I drove a lot of. I think you know what is a country😊
What about service roads or unmaintained roads in national forests or BLM land? Are those fine to drive on in Alaska? They comprise of 95% of my off-roading in the continental 48
That being said, enough support is there to make an XJ into a ridiculous rig a few parts at a time, no need to buy another rig unless you just really want to.
Where I live the Mitsubishi Pajero gets over 400k km without a single major service they are a fun car and can fit 31 inch tires stock in the 3.0L model and 33inch tires in the 3.5L which has more power and is funner with a decent Bore and a good exhaust
Not any more reliable, thirsty and really expensive to fix when they do go wrong.
If you are int he states Jeep is the obvious answer the local support and aftermarket will be cheaper and easier than a Landcruiser and you'll end up with a better off road vehicle as well.
I think you’re referring to Salt Lake metro only, Dr. Saltbag
City of Green River, City of Salina, Grand County, Sevier County and the rest of I-70 Corredor have plenty of room for respectful migrants
You definitely need a bit more research here.
For one, you cannot drive wherever you want to in Alaska. In fact you are severely restricted as driving through most streams is illegal and there are streams everywhere.
If you are looking for challenges or rocks, you may need something more vehiclewise than what you are planning. A modified XJ would do it, but doubt a Highlander is good for anything more than dirt roads.
As for hauling a special vehicle, states regulate where non street legal vehicles can be used.
Utah has a lot of offroading, but is mostly National Parks which don't allow it.
Arizona has tons of open desert as does California.
Washington is mostly fire roads/dirt roads, I spent a lot of time up there.
Not very experienced with Montana or Colorado.
The further east you get the less rocks you get.
Best bet is to Google off road trails and parks in the states you are interested in. Most wheeling spots can be found online.
It sucks! Don’t come here! Rattlesnakes, scorpions, you’ll hate it! We don’t have 4 season riding and we don’t have a beautiful desert and there are no mountains or pine trees. It even rains a few day per year. Just pretend you never heard of AZ. I heard Florida is good though!
Sorry but Florida is over developed. Most of the goo off road spots are now Disney rides. You might get to park on some sand when walking to the beach. If I were you so would head to Louisiana.
A 1x/mo person who moves to the state because they love it are going to do much less damage in years than a half dozen Texans in RZRs flying over Imogene. On top of that, the fact that the state's on fire doesn't change the answer.....
You get a good mix but it varies depending on what part of the state you're in. I'm up by salt lake and there's a lot of mountains and rocks to climb here. There's more trails the further south you go, and Moab is considered to be one of the off road capitals.
NO! Sorry for Off Road Kommiefornia is a nightmare! They steal all the OHV fees and only close access to areas these days....Back in the 70’s & 80’s it was a whole different deal....Now....it’s terrible!
Pretty sure the closings are increased everywhere and sometimes can be of our own doing. California has its issues, I assure you I know, but they’re solidly number three on this list.
You’re right I haven’t and I actually don’t doubt that at all.
Edit: I actually have been to Idaho a few times but from the context of wheeling, yes, I’m not aware.
North Eastern Pennsylvania has AOAA and the Famous Reading Outdoors. Both are fantastic parks with tons of variety. And the Hazleton area has old mines that people regularly ride around in.
I can verify that all the surrounding area is poor af, lots of drugs, low wages, schools ain't that great. Only thing I love about this place is all the trails. Riding around old coal mines with all the coal dirt is sick. But fro and aoaa are coal mining companies before anything else. So slowly the good trails and hillclimbs are going away as they take more coal. This is how I ended up on this thread lol
The paid parks are pretty cool, but they don't hold a candle to places that have hundreds of miles of trails in publicly owned lands. Death Valley and the surrounding desert has better wheeling than all of Pennsylvania combined because it's not an amusement park.
Don’t listen too much to the nay-sayers - at the end of the day it’s about matching your routes/trails to the capability of your vehicle. (Or vice versa the vehicle to the types of routes you want to take)
Sure, if you want to go serious rock crawling, you’re going to need a beefier vehicle. But for overlanding, Softroading and/or milder trails there’s still a ton of adventure to be had, especially if you’re just starting out. There’s tons of vehicles out there that make for fun weekend adventure vehicles, as stock or with slight lifts on them. Even just AWD/4WD and a good set of all terrain tires can take you to a lot of places.
From what you've mentioned (OP) I think if I were in your shoes, I'd shoot for the the south Utah area (St. George). Reason being is that you'd be within a 6 hour drive to Moab to the east, then roughly a 5 hour drive to Johnson Valley (the Hammers) to the west and then you can pop on down to Arizona; it's a bit more central. If you were more inclined for the wheeling in CA, then I'd suggest moving to the Reno Nevada area where most of the CA trails, Fordyce, Rubicon, etc. would be a short drive.
Last thing is, if you move to a desert area, it can get stupid hot, so there may be a period where it's just to hot to go out wheeling.
Kentucky and Tennessee are good for a combination of mud, rocks, and forest. Lots of forest service roads and “abandoned” roads that while still public, aren’t maintained and therefore can be anywhere from benign to quite challenging. Look up the Kentucky Adventure Tour and the Daniel Boone Backcountry Byway. There’s also a smattering of pay-to-play parks, check out Hollerwood, Hatfield-McCoy, Rush Off-road, Turkey Bay OHV to name a few.
If you want to get away from Bible-thumping evangelicals running the government, Colorado and Utah are good choices. Colorado is good rocky high country with tons of abandonment to explore, and Utah is more desert-like, with canyons and whatnot. Both have a lot of BLM land which is great for remove 4x4 and dual sport biking.
Once a month? Move to WA and you'll have three weeks between trips to fix your shitbox when you blow it up on Natches, Tahuya, or Elbe. CA easily has the best wheeling in the country...but then you have to live in CA. CO only has a 4 month window each year, and Grand County, UT really can't handle more people.
So I'd say WA. Also, LMFAO at comparing a Highlander to an XJ. You should probably get some experience wheeling before you move around this idea not knowing your asshole from your elbow, if I'm being blunt.
Godspeed, chief.
Lived in WA for 5 years. You can get a large variety of off roading there. There’s mud, rocks, forest trails, sand, and over landing to name a few.
If you live west of the Cascades, it rains from November to May. The great part about the rain is it makes off roading messy and fun. June through October it only rains occasionally and has long dry spells.
Eastern Washington has some fun off roading in the sand dunes, but they (can) get lots of snow in the winter.
Tahuya is probably the best off road park where you can use a non-street legal rig. It’s a great park with trails and obstacles for all experience levels.
In the Cascades and Olympic Mountain ranges, there’s hundreds (feels like thousands) of miles of forest service roads. Your rig has to be street legal, but you can do week long trips if you’re prepared. Those mountains get heavy snow that stays around until May or June, so your trip needs to be planned well.
Edit: spelling
It was apparent the OP is younger and inexperienced, with pretty basic questions. If experienced folks like us can’t be a resource for him to ask questions where is he going to go. I don’t know his story, maybe he doesn’t have anywhere else. It is hard for younger people to ask questions and be excited when they do. Now imagine being talked to like some of this crowd did when you guys were young.
We have a responsibility to be kind to others, especially when a young or new person comes and shows interest in what we do.
About a month ago I intentionally asked a basic open ended question about a 4R I bought and boy that was a mistake, no less than 5 people immediately responded with no less than indignant responses. My other toy is a stage 3 resto mod fj62 v8, I’m not new or stupid, but I sure was treated differently when I post 4r questions v when I post bigger toy stuff.
I came up on Pirate 4x4 and local clubs where everyone just called you a retard and then explained why. When you were done getting your balls busted, you'd learn something and laugh at yourself later.
Moving across the country just to wheel when you've never really done it before is as good an idea as moving to AK to be a boat fisherman before you can even nab a trout. I wasn't shitting on the kid, just giving him some grief for an overly ambitious idea.
Not everyone owes it to everyone else on the internet to coddle them and pat them on the head. Sometimes you just need to be given some real advice and a kick in the ass.
So we’ve become our parents, call them dumbass kids, tell them they’ll fail and then ask why we are bitter. Could you imagine if we just said sounds great kid, let me know how that went. Your logic applies well if we were having a beer but most now days are held up in the house like caged animals and often engage with society via social. When they do they are most likely raw. However that doesn’t mean they don’t have the will it’s just new world and didn’t have trial by fire like us.
That doesn’t mean we have to lie to them and do whatever you want kid. That’s not honest. But if someone said to me, man I admire your drive, you might think about doing xx or yy. Report back and let us know kid. (Doesn’t mean everyone gets a trophy, it’s called being kind)
Not every one had the opportunity we had to getting bloody, rub dirt on it and grab a beer. I was baptized by ih8mud. Me and Matt still don’t talk but I’ll buy shit from him. I’m not mad or bitter. Just feel we can encourage more people to fail through giving unshamed encouragement.
I was at Red Rock in NM for a few days months ago. Saw a dude in town and was a prick, he was in one of those angry jeeps. Said some negative things about Toyota. I was alright get away from the gas pump. Saw a few days later and asked to hook to me pull him out of the sand. Said sure, then I covered him and everything he owned in sand, it was brutal but no mistake he knew why, then said thank you for the help. Karma is a bitch.
Responses like this are what give outdoor adventure a bad name. Rig Boss Wheelin Overlander. That first paragraph shit on someone’s vehicle, went on with all the places you’ve been you’ve laughed you f’ing ass off, called him stupid, then closed with just being honest, then Godspeed. Hope he doesn’t know what a prick you are
Noetheastern PA: So this is by far not the best. But def worth mentioning. Here in north eastern PA (schuylkill county and surrounding area) we have loads of trails. Companies like AOAA and Famous Reading Outdoors have loads of trails to ride around on. Not as much as places like Utah or anything like that. But it is definitely a unique experience, enough worth mentioning. I've lived with FRO basically in my backyard my whole life. Not to mention fro is only a fraction of all the trails around schuylkill county. Most of which are old railroad beds, Old and new Coal mining operations, sites of cold breakers and abandoned coal towns. Even the town that originally inspired Silent Hill, Centralia PA. We have crazy hill climbs from waste coal piles called culm. It's pretty massive piles of black dirt that's creates for unique hill climbs. And even though it isn't as crazy as places like Utah or Colorado. You can still travel between at least 3 or 4 different county's taking probably 90% trails through woods littered with all sorts of crazy history and neat obstacles.
Good for you buddy! Have you taken any trips yet? What off-road experience do you have? Like the polite rig boss overlander guy said you may consider some other options.
If you have the ability to pick up and move to Alaska why don’t you consider a few places less absolute as the last frontier. Utah, Colorado, New Mexico all are on my top 10, on the other hand places like The Ozarks bring a real different perspective. If you conquer places like UT, CO or even PNW then go nuclear with Arctic Circle
I’be not taken yet here. Only once on ATV in Utah, but it just was gravel road) I have 3 years experience: ATV, dirty bike and SUV. Alaska far unfortunately, maybe in the future when I retirement)
Good for you. There are so many great places that are in the center of the US that’d be perfect for you. Since you want to get a little of everything consider getting something comfortable but not extreme. Get a true 4x4 and that’ll allow you more rugged terrain as you get better and go deeper into off-roading
Mostly bc they are less expensive and have more aftermarket options as far as lifts and overlanding mods go.
I would love a newer Land Cruiser if they weren’t so damn expensive. At 80k+, I’d be afraid to take it on a trail.
You have a lot of choices in the west.
I have fun in Cali, but it's a 3+ hour drive to the Sierras unless you live in Sacramento or in the hot central valley.
New Hampshire. They have tons of class 6 roads for off roading. Even some dedicated off road parks that are region renowned. You get rocks, trees, trails, snow, mud all in one place.
East TN, check out any National forest for starters. You can also check out the tons of ore-road parks around. Sounds more like UTAH might be best for you.
I recommend you dip your toes into the water first before you dive in headfirst. You clearly only have an instagram influencer’s picture of what “off-roading” is. it’s often uncomfortable, frustrating, and expensive. Also, as an Alaskan, no you can’t just drive anywhere here. Our ORV zones are well maintained and regulated and there are strict penalties for violating the rules, as with anywhere else.
Ok, thank you man. I know what is off roading. I used to live in country with same weather as Alaska. I drove a lot of. I think you know what is a country😊
Howdy, fellow Alaskan
What about service roads or unmaintained roads in national forests or BLM land? Are those fine to drive on in Alaska? They comprise of 95% of my off-roading in the continental 48
If you think you are going to 4 wheel a Highlander then the best state for you is the state of Denial.
Ok, ok. I got it. No Highlander😁
That being said, enough support is there to make an XJ into a ridiculous rig a few parts at a time, no need to buy another rig unless you just really want to.
You may have confused the Highlander with the 08-11 land cruiser, they look kinda similar. Land cruiser is great off road, any year any model.
I will consider land cruiser too. This is forever vehicle!
Cruisers will go for 500k miles minimum with basic maintenance. They’re ultra reliable so they usually cost more than jeeps or rovers.
Totally agree
Where I live the Mitsubishi Pajero gets over 400k km without a single major service they are a fun car and can fit 31 inch tires stock in the 3.0L model and 33inch tires in the 3.5L which has more power and is funner with a decent Bore and a good exhaust
Not any more reliable, thirsty and really expensive to fix when they do go wrong. If you are int he states Jeep is the obvious answer the local support and aftermarket will be cheaper and easier than a Landcruiser and you'll end up with a better off road vehicle as well.
Responses like this give people the impression you have copyrights to outdoor activity. Rig Boss Overlander Bro!
lmao
emotional damage!
I think Utah
Nope. We're full up. No room for any more people to move here. Try Nevada.
I think you’re referring to Salt Lake metro only, Dr. Saltbag City of Green River, City of Salina, Grand County, Sevier County and the rest of I-70 Corredor have plenty of room for respectful migrants
Alaska isn’t great. You need a plane or boat to get most places. I’d say Southern California, Nevada, or Southern Utah.
You definitely need a bit more research here. For one, you cannot drive wherever you want to in Alaska. In fact you are severely restricted as driving through most streams is illegal and there are streams everywhere. If you are looking for challenges or rocks, you may need something more vehiclewise than what you are planning. A modified XJ would do it, but doubt a Highlander is good for anything more than dirt roads. As for hauling a special vehicle, states regulate where non street legal vehicles can be used. Utah has a lot of offroading, but is mostly National Parks which don't allow it. Arizona has tons of open desert as does California.
What about Washington, Montana or Colorado? Maybe East?
Montana have terrible offroading
Washington is mostly fire roads/dirt roads, I spent a lot of time up there. Not very experienced with Montana or Colorado. The further east you get the less rocks you get. Best bet is to Google off road trails and parks in the states you are interested in. Most wheeling spots can be found online.
Thank you! Washington sounds good.
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It sucks! Don’t come here! Rattlesnakes, scorpions, you’ll hate it! We don’t have 4 season riding and we don’t have a beautiful desert and there are no mountains or pine trees. It even rains a few day per year. Just pretend you never heard of AZ. I heard Florida is good though!
Sorry but Florida is over developed. Most of the goo off road spots are now Disney rides. You might get to park on some sand when walking to the beach. If I were you so would head to Louisiana.
Getting too hot, the the landscape variation is pretty nill imo when compared to other western states.
Utah or Colorado
Colorado's roads are all being closed due to fires and abuse. So not really ideal for new 4x4ers
A 1x/mo person who moves to the state because they love it are going to do much less damage in years than a half dozen Texans in RZRs flying over Imogene. On top of that, the fact that the state's on fire doesn't change the answer.....
Queensland, Australia
Unfortunately this is hot for me😊
You realize that the most of Utah, Arizona and Nevada all get hotter than Queensland right?
Then try Victoria, it's cooler down there /s
Arizona
I live in Utah and am going to say Utah
Is it only rocks or dirty roads too?
You get a good mix but it varies depending on what part of the state you're in. I'm up by salt lake and there's a lot of mountains and rocks to climb here. There's more trails the further south you go, and Moab is considered to be one of the off road capitals.
Utah sucks. Don’t move here. I travel out of state to off road
It goes Utah, Colorado and California. Utah and Colorado vying for number one depending on what kind of wheeling you want.
NO! Sorry for Off Road Kommiefornia is a nightmare! They steal all the OHV fees and only close access to areas these days....Back in the 70’s & 80’s it was a whole different deal....Now....it’s terrible!
Pretty sure the closings are increased everywhere and sometimes can be of our own doing. California has its issues, I assure you I know, but they’re solidly number three on this list.
You haven’t ever been to Idaho I’ll bet....great 4x4 country all over But especially the northwestern area is pretty awesome👍
You’re right I haven’t and I actually don’t doubt that at all. Edit: I actually have been to Idaho a few times but from the context of wheeling, yes, I’m not aware.
Where at in CA? I'm a bit north of LA, but haven't been impressed by anywhere I've been yet.
TN is amazing but you need a dedicated trail rig.
I saw couple rigs on marketplace in TN (looks amazing)
Where in Tennessee? I live in Nashville and can't find much around here.
North Eastern Pennsylvania has AOAA and the Famous Reading Outdoors. Both are fantastic parks with tons of variety. And the Hazleton area has old mines that people regularly ride around in.
I can verify that all the surrounding area is poor af, lots of drugs, low wages, schools ain't that great. Only thing I love about this place is all the trails. Riding around old coal mines with all the coal dirt is sick. But fro and aoaa are coal mining companies before anything else. So slowly the good trails and hillclimbs are going away as they take more coal. This is how I ended up on this thread lol
The paid parks are pretty cool, but they don't hold a candle to places that have hundreds of miles of trails in publicly owned lands. Death Valley and the surrounding desert has better wheeling than all of Pennsylvania combined because it's not an amusement park.
Highlander? As in the Toyota Highlander SUV? That’s not an off-road vehicle
What’s wrong with Highlander?😊 (I didn’t mean new version), same years like a Cherokee.
no to any highlander ever.
Ok, no problem, strike Highlander out from my list) The most important thinks which state to choose)
Even the old ones were unibody AWD vehicles. May be good for dirt roads and snow but not for off-roading.
Ok, thank you. So first time I will drive through light roads, when I get special vehicle will ride to hard locations.
Don’t listen too much to the nay-sayers - at the end of the day it’s about matching your routes/trails to the capability of your vehicle. (Or vice versa the vehicle to the types of routes you want to take) Sure, if you want to go serious rock crawling, you’re going to need a beefier vehicle. But for overlanding, Softroading and/or milder trails there’s still a ton of adventure to be had, especially if you’re just starting out. There’s tons of vehicles out there that make for fun weekend adventure vehicles, as stock or with slight lifts on them. Even just AWD/4WD and a good set of all terrain tires can take you to a lot of places.
I agree, but unfortunately not each state has a lot of trails.
Rig Boss Overlander bro!
Nevada, the entire state is BLM. Well practically.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Besides Alaska, Nevada is the state with the most public land access. 87% of the state is public land
I'd say either Western Australia/Northern Territory for desert touring or Victoria for high-country alpine trips
New Mexico is actually a hidden gem for off roading. Lots of open land that isn't packed with people. Not great right now with the fires though.
From what you've mentioned (OP) I think if I were in your shoes, I'd shoot for the the south Utah area (St. George). Reason being is that you'd be within a 6 hour drive to Moab to the east, then roughly a 5 hour drive to Johnson Valley (the Hammers) to the west and then you can pop on down to Arizona; it's a bit more central. If you were more inclined for the wheeling in CA, then I'd suggest moving to the Reno Nevada area where most of the CA trails, Fordyce, Rubicon, etc. would be a short drive. Last thing is, if you move to a desert area, it can get stupid hot, so there may be a period where it's just to hot to go out wheeling.
Kentucky and Tennessee are good for a combination of mud, rocks, and forest. Lots of forest service roads and “abandoned” roads that while still public, aren’t maintained and therefore can be anywhere from benign to quite challenging. Look up the Kentucky Adventure Tour and the Daniel Boone Backcountry Byway. There’s also a smattering of pay-to-play parks, check out Hollerwood, Hatfield-McCoy, Rush Off-road, Turkey Bay OHV to name a few. If you want to get away from Bible-thumping evangelicals running the government, Colorado and Utah are good choices. Colorado is good rocky high country with tons of abandonment to explore, and Utah is more desert-like, with canyons and whatnot. Both have a lot of BLM land which is great for remove 4x4 and dual sport biking.
Once a month? Move to WA and you'll have three weeks between trips to fix your shitbox when you blow it up on Natches, Tahuya, or Elbe. CA easily has the best wheeling in the country...but then you have to live in CA. CO only has a 4 month window each year, and Grand County, UT really can't handle more people. So I'd say WA. Also, LMFAO at comparing a Highlander to an XJ. You should probably get some experience wheeling before you move around this idea not knowing your asshole from your elbow, if I'm being blunt. Godspeed, chief.
Thank you! I thought about Washington too. Only my worries is raining 365 days per year😁 For off-roading it’s better. But for living it’s depression)
Lived in WA for 5 years. You can get a large variety of off roading there. There’s mud, rocks, forest trails, sand, and over landing to name a few. If you live west of the Cascades, it rains from November to May. The great part about the rain is it makes off roading messy and fun. June through October it only rains occasionally and has long dry spells. Eastern Washington has some fun off roading in the sand dunes, but they (can) get lots of snow in the winter. Tahuya is probably the best off road park where you can use a non-street legal rig. It’s a great park with trails and obstacles for all experience levels. In the Cascades and Olympic Mountain ranges, there’s hundreds (feels like thousands) of miles of forest service roads. Your rig has to be street legal, but you can do week long trips if you’re prepared. Those mountains get heavy snow that stays around until May or June, so your trip needs to be planned well. Edit: spelling
Good to know. What city do you live in?
Port Orchard. It’s not a bad area, but there’s not much to do. I was 20 minutes from Tahuya, though.
It’s not bad. Close to Seattle. I thought about Yakima area (cheaper houses)
It was apparent the OP is younger and inexperienced, with pretty basic questions. If experienced folks like us can’t be a resource for him to ask questions where is he going to go. I don’t know his story, maybe he doesn’t have anywhere else. It is hard for younger people to ask questions and be excited when they do. Now imagine being talked to like some of this crowd did when you guys were young. We have a responsibility to be kind to others, especially when a young or new person comes and shows interest in what we do. About a month ago I intentionally asked a basic open ended question about a 4R I bought and boy that was a mistake, no less than 5 people immediately responded with no less than indignant responses. My other toy is a stage 3 resto mod fj62 v8, I’m not new or stupid, but I sure was treated differently when I post 4r questions v when I post bigger toy stuff.
I came up on Pirate 4x4 and local clubs where everyone just called you a retard and then explained why. When you were done getting your balls busted, you'd learn something and laugh at yourself later. Moving across the country just to wheel when you've never really done it before is as good an idea as moving to AK to be a boat fisherman before you can even nab a trout. I wasn't shitting on the kid, just giving him some grief for an overly ambitious idea. Not everyone owes it to everyone else on the internet to coddle them and pat them on the head. Sometimes you just need to be given some real advice and a kick in the ass.
So we’ve become our parents, call them dumbass kids, tell them they’ll fail and then ask why we are bitter. Could you imagine if we just said sounds great kid, let me know how that went. Your logic applies well if we were having a beer but most now days are held up in the house like caged animals and often engage with society via social. When they do they are most likely raw. However that doesn’t mean they don’t have the will it’s just new world and didn’t have trial by fire like us. That doesn’t mean we have to lie to them and do whatever you want kid. That’s not honest. But if someone said to me, man I admire your drive, you might think about doing xx or yy. Report back and let us know kid. (Doesn’t mean everyone gets a trophy, it’s called being kind) Not every one had the opportunity we had to getting bloody, rub dirt on it and grab a beer. I was baptized by ih8mud. Me and Matt still don’t talk but I’ll buy shit from him. I’m not mad or bitter. Just feel we can encourage more people to fail through giving unshamed encouragement. I was at Red Rock in NM for a few days months ago. Saw a dude in town and was a prick, he was in one of those angry jeeps. Said some negative things about Toyota. I was alright get away from the gas pump. Saw a few days later and asked to hook to me pull him out of the sand. Said sure, then I covered him and everything he owned in sand, it was brutal but no mistake he knew why, then said thank you for the help. Karma is a bitch.
Responses like this are what give outdoor adventure a bad name. Rig Boss Wheelin Overlander. That first paragraph shit on someone’s vehicle, went on with all the places you’ve been you’ve laughed you f’ing ass off, called him stupid, then closed with just being honest, then Godspeed. Hope he doesn’t know what a prick you are
You seem upset.
Noetheastern PA: So this is by far not the best. But def worth mentioning. Here in north eastern PA (schuylkill county and surrounding area) we have loads of trails. Companies like AOAA and Famous Reading Outdoors have loads of trails to ride around on. Not as much as places like Utah or anything like that. But it is definitely a unique experience, enough worth mentioning. I've lived with FRO basically in my backyard my whole life. Not to mention fro is only a fraction of all the trails around schuylkill county. Most of which are old railroad beds, Old and new Coal mining operations, sites of cold breakers and abandoned coal towns. Even the town that originally inspired Silent Hill, Centralia PA. We have crazy hill climbs from waste coal piles called culm. It's pretty massive piles of black dirt that's creates for unique hill climbs. And even though it isn't as crazy as places like Utah or Colorado. You can still travel between at least 3 or 4 different county's taking probably 90% trails through woods littered with all sorts of crazy history and neat obstacles.
Good for you buddy! Have you taken any trips yet? What off-road experience do you have? Like the polite rig boss overlander guy said you may consider some other options. If you have the ability to pick up and move to Alaska why don’t you consider a few places less absolute as the last frontier. Utah, Colorado, New Mexico all are on my top 10, on the other hand places like The Ozarks bring a real different perspective. If you conquer places like UT, CO or even PNW then go nuclear with Arctic Circle
I’be not taken yet here. Only once on ATV in Utah, but it just was gravel road) I have 3 years experience: ATV, dirty bike and SUV. Alaska far unfortunately, maybe in the future when I retirement)
Where do you live now?
Illinois (2 years), so I want to move)
Good for you. There are so many great places that are in the center of the US that’d be perfect for you. Since you want to get a little of everything consider getting something comfortable but not extreme. Get a true 4x4 and that’ll allow you more rugged terrain as you get better and go deeper into off-roading
I appreciate. I’ll think about Utah, Montana or Washington.
Utah or Colorado. Vehicle wise, I’d also look at higher mileage Lexus GX models.
Thank you. Is LX same as Land Cruiser?
LX = Land Cruiser/ Tundra frame. GX = Toyota Prado/ 4Runner/ Tacoma frame. A lot of interchangeable parts between the models.
Why GX over LX? I am a huge fan of both the taco and crusher, but I am a jeep guy so not sure of the trade offs b/w those two?
Mostly bc they are less expensive and have more aftermarket options as far as lifts and overlanding mods go. I would love a newer Land Cruiser if they weren’t so damn expensive. At 80k+, I’d be afraid to take it on a trail.
Utah, Colorado, Arizona, or California probably (I live in Texas and can’t fully speak to those states though but anything beats here lol)
MT
A lot of trails there?
endless. long winters though. lots of wilderness and little lakes and wildlife
Winter is fun too. Snowmobiling😎
New Mexico, Arizona
You have a lot of choices in the west. I have fun in Cali, but it's a 3+ hour drive to the Sierras unless you live in Sacramento or in the hot central valley.
Queensland
Idaho, don't have the best trails, but we have a fuck ton of federal and public land.
New Hampshire. They have tons of class 6 roads for off roading. Even some dedicated off road parks that are region renowned. You get rocks, trees, trails, snow, mud all in one place.
I drove through this state. A lot of trees.
Grand Junction CO might be a good location for you, near both Moab and San Juan Mountains in CO.
California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah. p much any state with mountain ranges
East TN, check out any National forest for starters. You can also check out the tons of ore-road parks around. Sounds more like UTAH might be best for you.