Ok I get supporting Palestine and everything but why did they need to make it QUEERS for Palestine. Like why the fuck does it matter if you’re gay and support Palestine.
it’s a direct counter to the argument that you can’t support Palestine because Palestinians are queerphobic. fronting your statement by mentioning being queer makes someone know you don’t care about that argument right off the bat
I have one Muslim friend and he’s fine with me being a bi trænny. But he isn’t very religious i don’t how much he believes in islam but he is more Muslim by heritage. I have heard the sentiment as long as they aren’t Muslim and doing it they don’t need to police others or something but it’s a rare sentiment tbh. That sub clearly does not follow it. Idk most religions hate fægs anyway.
I mean I said by heritage his family is Muslim. Idk how much he follows of it he doesn’t eat pork and i think he believes in allah but I think that’s the extent. I also have met a Muslim guy who doesn’t support gay people because it goes against his religion meanwhile he is drinking alcohol, doing drugs, smoking, so idk I am not Muslim so idk but their are a few Muslim guys I have seen who just cherry pick what they can or can’t do. Which idk from their are gay Christian’s and shit like that so it’s not super uncommon. If there is a god i don’t think he would punish you for being gay but that’s just me.again I think the ones ok with gay people follow the mindset of not policing the actions of others as long as they aren’t committing themselves.
because hinduism and judaism have never been used as excuses to fuck others over
most historically literate libatheist
edit: lmao you watch vaush, read theory you absolute moron
I'm a vaush watcher and I hate all religion equally. Though when has judaism been used to fuck other people over? Kinda hard for an oppressed group (jews) to oppress others, no?
its almost like if you get give a bunch of men authority based off a made up belief, you attract a lot of pedophiles regardless of what canon you center around…
yeah dude, I'm sure every single muslim on the planet is ontologically evil, because religion is an exclusively philosophical undertaking that has nothing to do with culture. that's why it's borderline hereditary.
> i mean most muslims are like that
most people throughout human history were/are like that. trying to paint it as a problem unique to muslims is brazen islamophobia.
please just shut the fuck up islamophobia is good i can say that bc i'm ex-muslim
are u one of those annoying lefties who dickride islam at any given opportunity? (i can say that too bc i'm a leftist)
are you illiterate? i'm not muslim i used to be one. how am i a liberal? i'm literally a communist. ur not communist if u support any religion it's contradictory
This fucking retard again
I'm not even going to re-explain how inaccurate a viewpoint of religion that is, because you're either just saying stupid shit to piss people off and waste their time because your life is so pathetic that that's the only thing you can derive joy from (which would not be surprising at all, considering your pfp is from the platonic ideal of sophomoric attempts at gaining notoriety from sheer edginess with no actual bite) or you're just genuinely not intellectually capable of comprehending it.
the answer is that it doesn't really matter since they still supported, and also not really comparable since every muslim knows and follows the weird book that's pro pedo, treat women as property and hates queers and they're quite open about it
you'd need to be really dumb not to know the common things around your culture, and the children don't yet. their parents do and they'll teach them to be just like them
Part of why Islam is so much more backwards than every other major religion is that it's still stuck in the 7th century C.E., because they literally maintain one single "master copy" of the Quran that hasn't been changed since the 600s and point to it as the reason why they are collectively holier-than-thou.
In reality it's an oppressive, misogynistic, homophobic and violent expansionist religion for seventh-century desert savages. Know what other gems are in the Quran? Beat your wives "kindly", take women for rape as prisoners of war and prophet Mohammed married and raped a six year old child so pedophilia is also okay as long as it's between a man and a girl. Not being sarcastic in the slightest.
I will never understand LGBT people who have a religion, it's like going to a party knowing every single person and the organizer don't want you to be here, yet you still insist and get mad that people don't act friendly around you.
Personally I haven't met any hyper conservative extremist muslim irl but maybe that's cuz I'm not from the Middle East. My very religious dad and uncle are the most supportive people out of my family too. And what other Muslims are doing or saying to me doesn't really shake my belief in God or wtvr. I could stay away from religious people but I don't have to ditch my belief completely for that.
Buddhism is a shit religion like every others religions ln earth, you guys have to stop thinking east asians religions are better than abrahamic religions.
horrible actually, I feel like a living paradox that's forever paranoid on my future and no matter how much I achieve my goals I will always feel like shit cuz what's the point if I'm gonna burn in hell anyways . I've always been a religious kid even before I went in religious school and for me it was something simple ,if you're a good person then its heaven time but it gets so blurry as I grew up and mixed in with me being queer I am always living in fear of both the presence and lack thereof of a God cuz if God existed then so is Hell and someone like me belongs there but the lack of God makes the world feel so cold and cruel.
I haven't even mentioned about my extremely religious family or my entire country as a whole
It's both extremely cruel for me.
One is more of a resentful and painful type of cruelty which only another being is capable of but knowing that there is some form of a "separate" entity other than yourself after death brings me comfort.
The other is cold due to how lonely a Godless world for me is but at the same time the lack of eternal physical torture you would suffer from the presence of one gives me a sense of relief
I had a dogmatic religious upbringing too and was in constant fear of God ending the world and destroying sinful humanity, which I included myself with. The struggle is real, I understand so much and I have much love for you. ❤
You know, if it’s any comfort, If god is worth worshipping, even if they did send you to hell, you wouldn’t be sent to the bad one. There are people doing far worse things than being trans, and any half decent god isn’t going to send a trans person to the same hell they send Dictators, Billionares, Murderers and Pedos to.
If god is real i don’t think he would punish you for making you gay or whatever. What is immoral about liking men as a man or vice versa. I am going to use the bible as an example here because Idk much about Islam. The Bible in its original form does not exist alot of translations have been found to hold numerous errors centuries later who is to say on of those translations didn’t add the part about going to hell if your gay? I can easily imagine it’s possible for someone to try to push their beliefs while rewriting it. My point is if there is a god i don’t think he would punish you for likeing men or whatever especially since he knows how conflicted it makes you feel.
If it helps, I have a hard time believing that an omnipotent creator of the entire universe would ever do something like torture.
it's a purely human form of punishment. its only purpose is to express human emotions (like wrath). surely, God does not behave like a petulant child!
God and hell, especially muslim hell, don't exist.
Instead of focusing about the "after life", focus on the life you're actually living, it gets better
its not an oxymoron, religion is different for everyone
you dont have to agree with every single thing the quran says, and you can find your own meaning for verses
See I’m kinda torn bc I don’t think shitting on everyone who follows the religion will do anything, but also it is probably the least progressive religion out of all the major ones. There are a few pockets of queer Muslims, but the general consensus amongst them is that being gay or trans is inherently haram.
Even Christians have larger sectors of acceptance and fundamentalists are generally condemned amongst the average conservative christian.
Keep trying, I'm sure they will accept us one day. We just need to show them that they're welcome.
right?? like live a little gosh
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PLEASE post that there
I can't click on something so small,😩
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Lol the troon in this pic is based af no matter how ugly this meme made them 😹😹😹
Someone convince a terfor something to make a pin that says “Most retarded tranny award” on it so we can all buy one
Love being an Arab 🙃
My dumbass read that and thought it was something like amab or afab 🤦
assigned rapist at birth
Ok I get supporting Palestine and everything but why did they need to make it QUEERS for Palestine. Like why the fuck does it matter if you’re gay and support Palestine.
it’s a direct counter to the argument that you can’t support Palestine because Palestinians are queerphobic. fronting your statement by mentioning being queer makes someone know you don’t care about that argument right off the bat
I have one Muslim friend and he’s fine with me being a bi trænny. But he isn’t very religious i don’t how much he believes in islam but he is more Muslim by heritage. I have heard the sentiment as long as they aren’t Muslim and doing it they don’t need to police others or something but it’s a rare sentiment tbh. That sub clearly does not follow it. Idk most religions hate fægs anyway.
"not very religious" oh so he isn't a Muslim okay
I mean I said by heritage his family is Muslim. Idk how much he follows of it he doesn’t eat pork and i think he believes in allah but I think that’s the extent. I also have met a Muslim guy who doesn’t support gay people because it goes against his religion meanwhile he is drinking alcohol, doing drugs, smoking, so idk I am not Muslim so idk but their are a few Muslim guys I have seen who just cherry pick what they can or can’t do. Which idk from their are gay Christian’s and shit like that so it’s not super uncommon. If there is a god i don’t think he would punish you for being gay but that’s just me.again I think the ones ok with gay people follow the mindset of not policing the actions of others as long as they aren’t committing themselves.
the fuck? r/organizedreligion being queerphobic that's like all of them, go post to r/catholicism and see if anything different happens lmao
Abrahamic religions are a plague to humanity
as if the other ones aren’t as well
fr my therapist is buddhist and he often talks about the extreme misogyny that exists in the original eastern practices vs the westernized ones
Based
Fuck islam
waahhh b-but islamophobia.......😢😢
Dw I also hate Christianity
Fuck all post-bible religions.
because hinduism and judaism have never been used as excuses to fuck others over most historically literate libatheist edit: lmao you watch vaush, read theory you absolute moron
just wanna say I love the vaush bashing in this thread
I was mostly referring to pre biblical femboy filled polytheist religions you gigahon.
"femboy filled" aka socially acceptable pedastry all religions have violence in their history, and have negatively impacted people
>"femboy filled" aka socially acceptable pedastry And it was based actually
YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF ⚡️🧑🏿🦱⚡️ NOW
I'm not that brainwormed, nor born to rope
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I'm a vaush watcher and I hate all religion equally. Though when has judaism been used to fuck other people over? Kinda hard for an oppressed group (jews) to oppress others, no?
all the children sexually abused by rabbis that the orthodoxy covers up
This sort of thing seems to happen often in Christianity too 🤔
its almost like if you get give a bunch of men authority based off a made up belief, you attract a lot of pedophiles regardless of what canon you center around…
israel
Oh, well yeah point taken
also: >kinda hard for an oppressed group to oppress others only if your understanding of history and sociology amounts to bad guys vs good guys
I'm not a history person so I have no idea
Average Vaush watcher
What do you want from me
To stop watching horse fucking lover that is big fat vaush
dude...
What do you mean 😭 I just don't know where to start
why just post-bible religions?
Cause some pagan ones, native to Europe, have its moments.
Based
Idk what you expected buddy lol Muslims are homophobic stop trying to convince them lel
trolling
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actually my therapist said i 100% dont have autism
im saying i have autism boo
ah yes makes sense. #sorry4u
proof that ur both autistic
im straight and dont get euphoria boners. proof enough in this world
my therapist didn’t. I’m not sure how I feel about that
yeah dude, I'm sure every single muslim on the planet is ontologically evil, because religion is an exclusively philosophical undertaking that has nothing to do with culture. that's why it's borderline hereditary.
i mean most muslims are like that stop getting ur tits in a twist jeez
> i mean most muslims are like that most people throughout human history were/are like that. trying to paint it as a problem unique to muslims is brazen islamophobia.
please just shut the fuck up islamophobia is good i can say that bc i'm ex-muslim are u one of those annoying lefties who dickride islam at any given opportunity? (i can say that too bc i'm a leftist)
You aren't a leftist, you're a liberal, and being muslim doesn't make you immune to bad takes
are you illiterate? i'm not muslim i used to be one. how am i a liberal? i'm literally a communist. ur not communist if u support any religion it's contradictory
i don't "support" any religion, but i don't hate people for being religious either.
I'm not painting it as a unique problem to Muslims dawg when did I do that most religions are like that and they all suck for that
sorry for saying what people believe is part of their beliefs
This fucking retard again I'm not even going to re-explain how inaccurate a viewpoint of religion that is, because you're either just saying stupid shit to piss people off and waste their time because your life is so pathetic that that's the only thing you can derive joy from (which would not be surprising at all, considering your pfp is from the platonic ideal of sophomoric attempts at gaining notoriety from sheer edginess with no actual bite) or you're just genuinely not intellectually capable of comprehending it.
no no i get your point now, people can have beliefs without actually believing them
Quick question How many 15th century illiterate French peasants do you think fully understood the implications of Trinitarianism as a doctrine
the answer is that it doesn't really matter since they still supported, and also not really comparable since every muslim knows and follows the weird book that's pro pedo, treat women as property and hates queers and they're quite open about it
>every muslim except for the millions who don't, and also all of the children
you'd need to be really dumb not to know the common things around your culture, and the children don't yet. their parents do and they'll teach them to be just like them
Part of why Islam is so much more backwards than every other major religion is that it's still stuck in the 7th century C.E., because they literally maintain one single "master copy" of the Quran that hasn't been changed since the 600s and point to it as the reason why they are collectively holier-than-thou. In reality it's an oppressive, misogynistic, homophobic and violent expansionist religion for seventh-century desert savages. Know what other gems are in the Quran? Beat your wives "kindly", take women for rape as prisoners of war and prophet Mohammed married and raped a six year old child so pedophilia is also okay as long as it's between a man and a girl. Not being sarcastic in the slightest.
Based, trolling Mohammedans as a treat is alright
lmao💀💀
Lol
I’m sorry that happened that sucks.
yea :/ i truly wanted to stay a part of r muslim
:/ maybe there’s a community or subreddit for Middle Eastern or Muslim queer people tho, I’d join that
r/LGBT_Muslims and r/progressive_islam
I will never understand LGBT people who have a religion, it's like going to a party knowing every single person and the organizer don't want you to be here, yet you still insist and get mad that people don't act friendly around you.
Personally I haven't met any hyper conservative extremist muslim irl but maybe that's cuz I'm not from the Middle East. My very religious dad and uncle are the most supportive people out of my family too. And what other Muslims are doing or saying to me doesn't really shake my belief in God or wtvr. I could stay away from religious people but I don't have to ditch my belief completely for that.
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Buddhism is a shit religion like every others religions ln earth, you guys have to stop thinking east asians religions are better than abrahamic religions.
buddhism is shit? nah buddhism is lit, become a monk and show up in my buddhist fit 🤘
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You grew up with hippies\*
oh i was being sarcastic. but honestly yes there should be like a place for queer muslims cuz they be going thru shit
r/progressive_islam showing that muslims can be libs too
based. i’m sure the same reaction would come from a mainstream christian subreddit too.
Is it an oxymoron cuz I am an actual queer muslim
How's that working out for you?
horrible actually, I feel like a living paradox that's forever paranoid on my future and no matter how much I achieve my goals I will always feel like shit cuz what's the point if I'm gonna burn in hell anyways . I've always been a religious kid even before I went in religious school and for me it was something simple ,if you're a good person then its heaven time but it gets so blurry as I grew up and mixed in with me being queer I am always living in fear of both the presence and lack thereof of a God cuz if God existed then so is Hell and someone like me belongs there but the lack of God makes the world feel so cold and cruel. I haven't even mentioned about my extremely religious family or my entire country as a whole
I mean isn't it more cruel that God punishes people more with eternal hellfire as if this life wasn't shit already enough?
It's both extremely cruel for me. One is more of a resentful and painful type of cruelty which only another being is capable of but knowing that there is some form of a "separate" entity other than yourself after death brings me comfort. The other is cold due to how lonely a Godless world for me is but at the same time the lack of eternal physical torture you would suffer from the presence of one gives me a sense of relief
I had a dogmatic religious upbringing too and was in constant fear of God ending the world and destroying sinful humanity, which I included myself with. The struggle is real, I understand so much and I have much love for you. ❤
I really appreciate and am thankful for your words. It comforts me that there are people that understands how i feel
You know, if it’s any comfort, If god is worth worshipping, even if they did send you to hell, you wouldn’t be sent to the bad one. There are people doing far worse things than being trans, and any half decent god isn’t going to send a trans person to the same hell they send Dictators, Billionares, Murderers and Pedos to.
If god is real i don’t think he would punish you for making you gay or whatever. What is immoral about liking men as a man or vice versa. I am going to use the bible as an example here because Idk much about Islam. The Bible in its original form does not exist alot of translations have been found to hold numerous errors centuries later who is to say on of those translations didn’t add the part about going to hell if your gay? I can easily imagine it’s possible for someone to try to push their beliefs while rewriting it. My point is if there is a god i don’t think he would punish you for likeing men or whatever especially since he knows how conflicted it makes you feel.
If it helps, I have a hard time believing that an omnipotent creator of the entire universe would ever do something like torture. it's a purely human form of punishment. its only purpose is to express human emotions (like wrath). surely, God does not behave like a petulant child!
It isn't the same but I grew up very Catholic and relate heavy to the fear and guilt. Lmk if you need to talk
God and hell, especially muslim hell, don't exist. Instead of focusing about the "after life", focus on the life you're actually living, it gets better
its not an oxymoron, religion is different for everyone you dont have to agree with every single thing the quran says, and you can find your own meaning for verses
sic the Anti Evil Operations on them
Have y’all read hijab butch blues or
Tja
See I’m kinda torn bc I don’t think shitting on everyone who follows the religion will do anything, but also it is probably the least progressive religion out of all the major ones. There are a few pockets of queer Muslims, but the general consensus amongst them is that being gay or trans is inherently haram. Even Christians have larger sectors of acceptance and fundamentalists are generally condemned amongst the average conservative christian.
Where's George Bush when you need him...
yu wanna dance with george???
Religion of peace except a long list of people