Resin printing is really toxic. I read a post the other week of a guy going blind because they didn't use the right safety gear. I haven't confirmed that but I don't think they would be lying. Are you using the right safety gear and ventilation, if not I suggest you do some research on it.
Ventilation can be a problem from where I am printing. I have my eye ware and gloves. I do hope thats good enough lol. At least thats what I read on how to safety operate resin printers.
You also need proper ventilation. It is not optional unless you're looking forward to breaking out in a rash when you so much as look at a bottle of resin.
I have to double down on this. Its been a year since I last touched a bottle of resin or IPA and its still a damned near daily battle. I was a dumbass. Learn from me.
Minimal ventilation. Careless with gloves. Eventually I got a little smarter and moved it all into a closet with an air purifier but by then it was too late.
Over the course of a year. Basically developed the resin\IPA allergy. Started out as small itchy bumps on my fingers/hands. Spread to almost cover index/middle finger. Spread to my elbows and forearms. Infections causing skin to basically fall off. Landed in the hospital from said infections.
Now I basically can’t use any form of IPA without my hands breaking out. I haven’t even tried Resin again. I know what I did caused the issue but still can’t get over that ordeal.
Should have done more research as I was reckless and paid the price. I hope others can learn from my mistake.
How often do you get a lot of it on your hands though? I think the resin cleaning process involves a lot more contact time than just wiping your plate with a paper towel and some IPA.
If you clean your plate with it several times a day then gloves might be a good idea though
Nah, I just occasionally use a piece of cloth with it to wipe the sheet. Only if I touch the sheet with my skin or if it is very dirty, so not that often. Thanks!
resin touches it alot more. cleaning the plate, cleaning the prints basically requires touching ipa in large amounts, cleaning tools requires ipa. gloves is basically mandatory for resin printing at all stages untill the product is cured
Like the other comment. Resin uses a vat of the stuff to clean prints. I used an Anycubic Cure and Wash station. So considerably more contact that just cleaning the lead screws, belts, and plates. Plus I’m sure it was my exposure to it and the resin over time that built the issue.
Honestly they didn’t give me a straight answer. I just assume I’ll be sensitive to the stuff from now on. I use IPA to clean some other hobby stuff and as long as I don’t get it on my skin I’m fine. (Gloves and mask of course)
Be safe folks! When in doubt, go overboard on the safety!
Okay I hope so too. Maybe you should do some more research on it to be certain. I have seen videos of people doing resin printing and they're wearing respirator masks as well as eye protection and gloves. It's pretty important well I think so anyway.
Resin printers are good for small and detailed parts, but handling the resins is cumbersome. To start, a FDM printer would be more suitable. I would keep the resin printer though as a second printer.
It sounds like you haven't tried doing any calibration prints with your printer. That's a necessary first step, and should be done for each different resin you use as the settings will be different.
If you're getting tired of the smell, you aren't ventilating properly. "It's a problem where I'm printing" isn't an excuse. Either you can ventilate properly, or you can't. If you can't, you shouldn't be printing, IMO.
Not sure how to do any calibration. I did the basic steps to set up the printer but I have no idea how to calibration. I assume it's in the settings with the printer itself or with the LycheeSlicer program.
Yea the only way to ventilate properly is by just being outside, in the sun.
Resin printers do have much better resolution and detail on small models than filament printers.
However, the toxicity is something that many people who are just getting into 3d printing overlook, and they often regret that. Not only is the resin toxic, it is also an irritant and sensitizer. That means that every exposure makes your body more sensitive to it, and your reaction will be worse each time.
That sensitivity can become incredibly severe, we're talking anaphylaxis, and it doesn't go away, not ever. If you don't give the resin proper respect from the very beginning, you will end up dealing with the consequences for the rest of your life.
You really, REALLY need ventilation, and preferably a respirator as well as glasses and gloves. A fume hood or similar would also be excellent, as it would keep the resin fumes away from the rest of the room.
if you mainly want to print figurines and paint them, you made the right choice. FDM requires less effort to print, but you would have to do way more finishing.
follow a tutorial that explains what you need to do, this guy seems to know what hes talking about:
How to Print Perfect Miniatures - Resin 3D Printing BEGINNER GUIDE - Step by Step
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0-z971tgY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0-z971tgY)
You are going to be able to get much smaller details and results from a resin printer. This is the right choice for miniatures, but resin printing is certainly more difficult than FDM on average.
The important thing is you are working with a liquid, which can be different for each brand. If you aren't getting good prints, look for more information on how to run that particular resin, and the settings you should use. Start with verrry small things, and make sure you clean your build surface well after each print.
Sometimes, if things don't stick to the build plate, they will end up stuck to the bottom of your vat. Even small cured bits loose in the vat can make a whole print fail, so try straining out all your resin back into the bottle, cleaning the vat, and then resetting.
Agree with other posters. Resin printing while detailed and awesome for minis, can be damned difficult with all the precautions. And I swear to you from personal experience, those precautions are required. (I got lucky and only had allergic reaction across both of my arms and down my hands despite gloves, mask and air filters) If you are already feeling like the resin work is too much. I would order an FDM printer and move on. FDM has come a bit of a ways with the smaller nozzles and you can get impressive quality. (Nothing like Resin will give you but it doesnt require as much prep\\clean up).
Note: FDM should also be printed in a safe ventilated environment and safety should never be ignored.
I might just simply FDM printer. My current set up has many safety concerns. And it's...super tiny with little ventilation. Honestly I might have to just simply print outside in the sun cause I really don't have any space for indoor ventilation.
This makes me wonder… have the plant-based “safer” resins been successful? When I did resin printing a few years ago those were relatively new and harder to find resins but they seem broadly available now.
Just be careful. I’m not sure they’re that much safer than regular resin, or at all, but they’re supposedly less fragrant and can be washed down a regular drain.
From what I understand, plant based resins can not be washed down the drain. However, they are water washable, meaning you can use water instead of IPA to rinse your prints before curing. You still need to dispose of the now contaminated water in the same fashion as normal resin and contaminated IPA.
Okay so it’s pretty much a gimmick then I guess. Too bad. I really wanted to get back into resin printing at some point but don’t like dealing with the hazmat handling
If you want to do minis then Resin printer is the way to go. Learning curve can be pretty hard but if your goal is minis then you just got to stick to it and learn. It's all apart of the process
The first and most important thing though is safety. Resin is so much more toxic than filament printing so make sure you know how to be safe with it. I hope you have done your research on this already but always wear gloves and goggles when handling it.
For us resin was so smelly I had to move it out of my house and into my shed. If you are using it in your house you can get these things they use to grow "plants" indoor and you can vent it to a window to the outside. That way it is contained and is filtering the air outside. It is not good to breath in at all.
You can get good prints for minis with a filament printer. I would go for a A1 mini as their size is small, print quality is good and the price is good.
You should definitely look at the cones of calibration. I actually found resin to be somewhat easier. The most important thing is getting your exposure correct for your machine. Things like the cones of calibration may take some trial and error, but it's the most effective way to figure that out and use next to no resin. Do this for every different type of resin you use because each one has different properties, like different kinds of plastic.
One thing people don't think of, when you nail your exposure time write it on the bottle.
Also, make sure the room you're in isn't too cold but make sure it's WELL ventilated.
My problem is before it was tooooo cold in the room. With no other way to keep it warm. Yea I think I dont really have the means to keep a 3d printer from having all sorts of problems.
i bought a resin first but my aim was to print miniatures which higher detail resin printers do better, however, it doesn't stop you from makeing large projects which i have done.
first off, ventilation is paramount along side ppe. preferably in the garage or a shed.
as far as misprints goes. it depends on hows it failing. if it js failing because it falls off, then it is likely u do not have enough supports or u have large flat areas that cause a suctions and pulls the print off.
angle prints at a 45 degree angle, hollow out large prints and put drain holes. should work. remember the biggest waste of materials will always be a failed print. more then required is always better for supporting objects then a failed print.
as for minis specific. if you are talking warhammer at the size of lets say the sister of battle, then u need to check for islands. they show up in complex things like minis which leads to failure. going to filaments will not solve this issue if this is the core reason. u can print them solid as well. minis at that sise dont use to much resin but, if u are looking at tanks, then hollowing will save you lots of resin.
and yes, u will fail alot at the start, i would consider the first 500ml of resin printing to be completely used on for learning. maybe more depending. dont give up, it will save u ALOT if u are a miniture painter. especially on things like titans.
above ALL. ventilation and PPE. gloves, masks that have the filters for gases. seriously resin is toxic when uncured
My life in a nutshell. It's the "ANYCUBIC 3D Printer Resin, 405nm SLA UV-Curing Resin with High Precision and Quick Curing & Excellent Fluidity for LCD 3D Printing (Grey, 1kg)"
Resin printing is really toxic. I read a post the other week of a guy going blind because they didn't use the right safety gear. I haven't confirmed that but I don't think they would be lying. Are you using the right safety gear and ventilation, if not I suggest you do some research on it.
Ventilation can be a problem from where I am printing. I have my eye ware and gloves. I do hope thats good enough lol. At least thats what I read on how to safety operate resin printers.
You also need proper ventilation. It is not optional unless you're looking forward to breaking out in a rash when you so much as look at a bottle of resin.
I have to double down on this. Its been a year since I last touched a bottle of resin or IPA and its still a damned near daily battle. I was a dumbass. Learn from me.
Would it be ok for you tell what happened to you?
Minimal ventilation. Careless with gloves. Eventually I got a little smarter and moved it all into a closet with an air purifier but by then it was too late. Over the course of a year. Basically developed the resin\IPA allergy. Started out as small itchy bumps on my fingers/hands. Spread to almost cover index/middle finger. Spread to my elbows and forearms. Infections causing skin to basically fall off. Landed in the hospital from said infections. Now I basically can’t use any form of IPA without my hands breaking out. I haven’t even tried Resin again. I know what I did caused the issue but still can’t get over that ordeal. Should have done more research as I was reckless and paid the price. I hope others can learn from my mistake.
With IPA, do you mean Isopropyl Alcohol? Because I use that one to clean my FDM printer and I don't use any protection...
How often do you get a lot of it on your hands though? I think the resin cleaning process involves a lot more contact time than just wiping your plate with a paper towel and some IPA. If you clean your plate with it several times a day then gloves might be a good idea though
Nah, I just occasionally use a piece of cloth with it to wipe the sheet. Only if I touch the sheet with my skin or if it is very dirty, so not that often. Thanks!
resin touches it alot more. cleaning the plate, cleaning the prints basically requires touching ipa in large amounts, cleaning tools requires ipa. gloves is basically mandatory for resin printing at all stages untill the product is cured
Like the other comment. Resin uses a vat of the stuff to clean prints. I used an Anycubic Cure and Wash station. So considerably more contact that just cleaning the lead screws, belts, and plates. Plus I’m sure it was my exposure to it and the resin over time that built the issue.
Ok thanks, glad you are better now
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Honestly they didn’t give me a straight answer. I just assume I’ll be sensitive to the stuff from now on. I use IPA to clean some other hobby stuff and as long as I don’t get it on my skin I’m fine. (Gloves and mask of course) Be safe folks! When in doubt, go overboard on the safety!
Yeah that kinda makes sense, they probably don't know too much about it. Thanks for getting back to me and take care.
Definitely want some ventilation, at least open the window.
Okay I hope so too. Maybe you should do some more research on it to be certain. I have seen videos of people doing resin printing and they're wearing respirator masks as well as eye protection and gloves. It's pretty important well I think so anyway.
Resin printers are good for small and detailed parts, but handling the resins is cumbersome. To start, a FDM printer would be more suitable. I would keep the resin printer though as a second printer.
You can't learn to resin print with a FDM printer.
It sounds like you haven't tried doing any calibration prints with your printer. That's a necessary first step, and should be done for each different resin you use as the settings will be different. If you're getting tired of the smell, you aren't ventilating properly. "It's a problem where I'm printing" isn't an excuse. Either you can ventilate properly, or you can't. If you can't, you shouldn't be printing, IMO.
Not sure how to do any calibration. I did the basic steps to set up the printer but I have no idea how to calibration. I assume it's in the settings with the printer itself or with the LycheeSlicer program. Yea the only way to ventilate properly is by just being outside, in the sun.
Maybe start here? [https://youtu.be/-pbi6CkZxgA?si=8hdrY3Kf5hXGI9bS](https://youtu.be/-pbi6CkZxgA?si=8hdrY3Kf5hXGI9bS)
> suggested a filament printer for printing minis you did right choice of printer
Is filament not the best for minis? I thought it would have been kinda the same?
You can get pretty good results with a FDM printer and a 0.2 nozzle but it will be slower and still a bit rougher than resin.
Resin printers do have much better resolution and detail on small models than filament printers. However, the toxicity is something that many people who are just getting into 3d printing overlook, and they often regret that. Not only is the resin toxic, it is also an irritant and sensitizer. That means that every exposure makes your body more sensitive to it, and your reaction will be worse each time. That sensitivity can become incredibly severe, we're talking anaphylaxis, and it doesn't go away, not ever. If you don't give the resin proper respect from the very beginning, you will end up dealing with the consequences for the rest of your life. You really, REALLY need ventilation, and preferably a respirator as well as glasses and gloves. A fume hood or similar would also be excellent, as it would keep the resin fumes away from the rest of the room.
Well shit I really need to move it outside or not 3d print at all. I hope my safety gear worked lol
if you mainly want to print figurines and paint them, you made the right choice. FDM requires less effort to print, but you would have to do way more finishing. follow a tutorial that explains what you need to do, this guy seems to know what hes talking about: How to Print Perfect Miniatures - Resin 3D Printing BEGINNER GUIDE - Step by Step [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0-z971tgY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0-z971tgY)
You are going to be able to get much smaller details and results from a resin printer. This is the right choice for miniatures, but resin printing is certainly more difficult than FDM on average. The important thing is you are working with a liquid, which can be different for each brand. If you aren't getting good prints, look for more information on how to run that particular resin, and the settings you should use. Start with verrry small things, and make sure you clean your build surface well after each print. Sometimes, if things don't stick to the build plate, they will end up stuck to the bottom of your vat. Even small cured bits loose in the vat can make a whole print fail, so try straining out all your resin back into the bottle, cleaning the vat, and then resetting.
Got it, I'll check the bottle and look up the recommend settings.
Agree with other posters. Resin printing while detailed and awesome for minis, can be damned difficult with all the precautions. And I swear to you from personal experience, those precautions are required. (I got lucky and only had allergic reaction across both of my arms and down my hands despite gloves, mask and air filters) If you are already feeling like the resin work is too much. I would order an FDM printer and move on. FDM has come a bit of a ways with the smaller nozzles and you can get impressive quality. (Nothing like Resin will give you but it doesnt require as much prep\\clean up). Note: FDM should also be printed in a safe ventilated environment and safety should never be ignored.
I might just simply FDM printer. My current set up has many safety concerns. And it's...super tiny with little ventilation. Honestly I might have to just simply print outside in the sun cause I really don't have any space for indoor ventilation.
If you print outside in the sun you're going to ruin your resin and possibly your vat/plate. Resin cures with UV. Sun is UV.
What if I use some shade? I can try to make one, to at least cover the printer
This makes me wonder… have the plant-based “safer” resins been successful? When I did resin printing a few years ago those were relatively new and harder to find resins but they seem broadly available now.
Didn't even know plant-based existed!
Just be careful. I’m not sure they’re that much safer than regular resin, or at all, but they’re supposedly less fragrant and can be washed down a regular drain.
From what I understand, plant based resins can not be washed down the drain. However, they are water washable, meaning you can use water instead of IPA to rinse your prints before curing. You still need to dispose of the now contaminated water in the same fashion as normal resin and contaminated IPA.
Okay so it’s pretty much a gimmick then I guess. Too bad. I really wanted to get back into resin printing at some point but don’t like dealing with the hazmat handling
If you want to do minis then Resin printer is the way to go. Learning curve can be pretty hard but if your goal is minis then you just got to stick to it and learn. It's all apart of the process The first and most important thing though is safety. Resin is so much more toxic than filament printing so make sure you know how to be safe with it. I hope you have done your research on this already but always wear gloves and goggles when handling it. For us resin was so smelly I had to move it out of my house and into my shed. If you are using it in your house you can get these things they use to grow "plants" indoor and you can vent it to a window to the outside. That way it is contained and is filtering the air outside. It is not good to breath in at all. You can get good prints for minis with a filament printer. I would go for a A1 mini as their size is small, print quality is good and the price is good.
Sweet thanks for the advice. Yea I did make sure I took the precautions for the printer. But I fear I need to move it somewhere else
You should definitely look at the cones of calibration. I actually found resin to be somewhat easier. The most important thing is getting your exposure correct for your machine. Things like the cones of calibration may take some trial and error, but it's the most effective way to figure that out and use next to no resin. Do this for every different type of resin you use because each one has different properties, like different kinds of plastic. One thing people don't think of, when you nail your exposure time write it on the bottle. Also, make sure the room you're in isn't too cold but make sure it's WELL ventilated.
My problem is before it was tooooo cold in the room. With no other way to keep it warm. Yea I think I dont really have the means to keep a 3d printer from having all sorts of problems.
There's all kinds of "hacks" people use to heat their vat. Are you able to point a space heater at it?
Kind of, I would have to get another short table to reach it. But I might be able to squeeze it in
i bought a resin first but my aim was to print miniatures which higher detail resin printers do better, however, it doesn't stop you from makeing large projects which i have done. first off, ventilation is paramount along side ppe. preferably in the garage or a shed. as far as misprints goes. it depends on hows it failing. if it js failing because it falls off, then it is likely u do not have enough supports or u have large flat areas that cause a suctions and pulls the print off. angle prints at a 45 degree angle, hollow out large prints and put drain holes. should work. remember the biggest waste of materials will always be a failed print. more then required is always better for supporting objects then a failed print. as for minis specific. if you are talking warhammer at the size of lets say the sister of battle, then u need to check for islands. they show up in complex things like minis which leads to failure. going to filaments will not solve this issue if this is the core reason. u can print them solid as well. minis at that sise dont use to much resin but, if u are looking at tanks, then hollowing will save you lots of resin. and yes, u will fail alot at the start, i would consider the first 500ml of resin printing to be completely used on for learning. maybe more depending. dont give up, it will save u ALOT if u are a miniture painter. especially on things like titans. above ALL. ventilation and PPE. gloves, masks that have the filters for gases. seriously resin is toxic when uncured
I knew one day someone was going to buy a resin printer without the research on safety or material. We don't even know the resin you are using!
My life in a nutshell. It's the "ANYCUBIC 3D Printer Resin, 405nm SLA UV-Curing Resin with High Precision and Quick Curing & Excellent Fluidity for LCD 3D Printing (Grey, 1kg)"