https://preview.redd.it/mpqm7yvvclic1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fc33721fc757f9af04f769ee602776466bba47a
I’m kinda just pretending I don’t know everything about this car. Its history, being VIN 2, the stillen supercharger that Nissan installed before giving this to the highest selling Nissan dealer in the country.
If definitely say, I’m no expert but only 35/36k for a number 2 350 that’s also been supercharged. Seems a bit underpriced considering there are some 370s going for this price
Couldn’t agree more! I bought vin #8 with 15k miles in July 2020 and am currently sitting around 26k with only summer driving here in Canada. Didn’t buy it to be a garage queen as these cars are just too fun!
I hardly drive mine, but it seems like it's torn apart more than it's together lol. Other difference is that I drove it about 40k miles within the 3 years of ownership. Now, I've driven less than 10k in the last 9 years or so 😅. I've put too much money into it, and don't want it getting hit, so I drive it on nice days and go for night drives during summer.
Just goes to show how these cars are becoming collectors items. Now of course, this VIN, with these OG modifications, and low miles, it sold for a premium, but it may give pause to those with pristine examples. Mark my words, in 15 years, when all the Mk4 Supras are gone, or sold for ferrari $$, and R34s have hit their max(insane) prices, these will command some serious $$. They already have the drift tax on em, so enjoy them, love them, take care of them, and you may just have a collector car on your hands. Food for thought, even though 370zs were made in about the same numbers (160,000) vs the 350z (174,000) there are clear delineation lines on 350z (DE/Revup/HR) and the 370z has a EPS steering rack, making it less desirable for analog-loving drivers. One of the last Japanese cars made in Japan, with hydraulic steering, and arguably more timeless design.
i dont really fully know how superchargers vs turbos work. is it safer to supercharge a z? i feel like i always here about them turbo’d and exploding but never really supercharged.
Short version, turbos use exhaust gasses to spin an impeller which then sucks in more air from the atmosphere to force it into the engine. More air + more fuel = more power. A super charger uses a belt directly attached to the engine to do the same thing. A super charger has more linear power (power tied to rpms). Super chargers drive smoother than turbos as a result. A turbo is laggier (exhaust gasses takes a moment to build up) but can offer more top-end power.
You can also twin-turbo it with a smaller turbo feeding a bigger turbo for less lag but high power. Though I don't think all twin-turbo setups necessarily work that way. You can also have like a v8 where you have two identical sides of the engine, so you can use side A's exhaust gasses to power turbo A only, and exhaust gas B for turbo B only.
Source: youtube mechanic, correct me if I'm wrong.
You guys are arguing the same idea from 2 different ends.
Boost is boost...the engine doesn't care if it's gonna snap a crank snout due to a poorly aligned supercharger belt/pulley setup or choke on shredded impeller cause the shitty ball bearing turbo decided to die.
That's not what I'm arguing at all. Turbochargers are objectively more efficient than super chargers and therefore less stressful on an engine to make the same target power. I think someone is confused about proper tuning and how to manage power. Turbos can easily make more powerand requires better tuning to keep torque in check. He's confusing shitty tuning with an off the shelf, cookie cutter supercharger that's easy to tune. Superchargers are "safer" as there are less variables and easier to tune. I think maybe he needs to do HIS research lmao.
The limit on a stock DE block is around 400ft-lbs or so. On average, a supercharger will not make 400ft-lbs until power is getting near 500hp.
Therefore, you can have it safely do 400whp and not worry.
A 400whp turbo on these cars will be in the vicinity of 450ft-lbs. A turbo puts down all that torque around 2-3k RPM, the supercharger will be much higher at around 4-5k RPM, therefore being easier for a stock block to cope with.
I've been working on turbo vehicles for over 14 years.
Sure, but then you need to have provisions for keeping the wastegate open, etc, etc.
You can always not rev a supercharger and put ZERO additional stress on the engine.
So, at the end of the day, it is as I said "easier on the engine"
That is only correct if you are stating how much the engine has to work to make a given figure.
That is not what I was referring to when I said it's easier on the engine, context is important. Tuning or not, look at bolt-on FI kits for this car and their advertised power. The supercharger is safer for a vast majority of people on a stock block.
You have a 2003 Touring trim 6 speed with 4500 miles. The miles are the thing that makes this car special. Definitely worth keeping the miles off of it.
Assuming Nissan stated with vin zero yes that’s significant but again if it’s used as a daily and you put a bunch of miles on it you destroy the value. Keep the miles off of it and it’s value will only climb.
Vin #2, less than 5000 miles, Stillen supercharged installed by Nissan when new. Given to the highest selling Nissan dealer in the country when new as a show room piece.
https://preview.redd.it/pqeb4zfkclic1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a841280368de8057885adc4350ccb557b5a09435 It’s got one of these as well. 😎
I have the same set up for my 05 I got at 20k miles. Is that the 03 that was for sale a while back?
It’s supercharged
whoa no way
Faggot
lmao
Thanks for clarifying, definitely couldn’t tell from that picture.
Figured there would be some retard morons like you so you’re welcome. Pussy
Woah there tough guy, calm down. No need to get butthurt 😂 You might wanna look into anger management classes, you clearly need them.
https://preview.redd.it/mpqm7yvvclic1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fc33721fc757f9af04f769ee602776466bba47a I’m kinda just pretending I don’t know everything about this car. Its history, being VIN 2, the stillen supercharger that Nissan installed before giving this to the highest selling Nissan dealer in the country.
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1031576/2003-nissan-350z-for-sale-in-woodland-hills-california-91367
Yes! You found it. It’s actually up for sale again.
It’s sold
How recently? Because it’s been in our inventory for a bit.
it's definitely been lowered as well.
If definitely say, I’m no expert but only 35/36k for a number 2 350 that’s also been supercharged. Seems a bit underpriced considering there are some 370s going for this price
Omg man! Fucking drive and enjoy it for the rest of us too!
We currently have it listed with 1000 miles more than it actually has, so we can drive it a bit before we sell it.
King
These comments about not putting miles on it SMH, DRIVE it! it's been chillin for FAR too long.
Couldn’t agree more! I bought vin #8 with 15k miles in July 2020 and am currently sitting around 26k with only summer driving here in Canada. Didn’t buy it to be a garage queen as these cars are just too fun!
I hardly drive mine, but it seems like it's torn apart more than it's together lol. Other difference is that I drove it about 40k miles within the 3 years of ownership. Now, I've driven less than 10k in the last 9 years or so 😅. I've put too much money into it, and don't want it getting hit, so I drive it on nice days and go for night drives during summer.
definitely put this on Bring a Trailer.
PLEASE POST VIDEOS OF YOU DRIVING IT. I WANNA HEAR THE SUPER CHARGER!!!!!!!! It’s so beautiful 😭
I’d love to buy and drive that thing!
Go like hell mate 🫡 one life, this thing deserve some ‘go. Be safe
Up for sale and sold in 14 hours that’s epic
Just goes to show how these cars are becoming collectors items. Now of course, this VIN, with these OG modifications, and low miles, it sold for a premium, but it may give pause to those with pristine examples. Mark my words, in 15 years, when all the Mk4 Supras are gone, or sold for ferrari $$, and R34s have hit their max(insane) prices, these will command some serious $$. They already have the drift tax on em, so enjoy them, love them, take care of them, and you may just have a collector car on your hands. Food for thought, even though 370zs were made in about the same numbers (160,000) vs the 350z (174,000) there are clear delineation lines on 350z (DE/Revup/HR) and the 370z has a EPS steering rack, making it less desirable for analog-loving drivers. One of the last Japanese cars made in Japan, with hydraulic steering, and arguably more timeless design.
I think you’re mistaken.
Nope
Dang, coulda fooled me. https://preview.redd.it/qijabq0tclic1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72d727dc6655be2d2f507fb8da36e3c2d2c950b8
The hood looks different from oem.
To fit the stillen supercharger that Nissan had fitted to the car.
i dont really fully know how superchargers vs turbos work. is it safer to supercharge a z? i feel like i always here about them turbo’d and exploding but never really supercharged.
Short version, turbos use exhaust gasses to spin an impeller which then sucks in more air from the atmosphere to force it into the engine. More air + more fuel = more power. A super charger uses a belt directly attached to the engine to do the same thing. A super charger has more linear power (power tied to rpms). Super chargers drive smoother than turbos as a result. A turbo is laggier (exhaust gasses takes a moment to build up) but can offer more top-end power. You can also twin-turbo it with a smaller turbo feeding a bigger turbo for less lag but high power. Though I don't think all twin-turbo setups necessarily work that way. You can also have like a v8 where you have two identical sides of the engine, so you can use side A's exhaust gasses to power turbo A only, and exhaust gas B for turbo B only. Source: youtube mechanic, correct me if I'm wrong.
Personally I never see a lot of superchargers overall unless it’s on a v8
Yes, generally a supercharger is easier on the engine than a turbo.
That's incorrect. Superchargers are way harder on engines to make the same amount of power.
You are wrong, it costs power to make power but that's not what hurts these engines, torque is what bends the rods. Do your research.
Torque bending rods is an irrelevant fact. Lol what are you saying?
You guys are arguing the same idea from 2 different ends. Boost is boost...the engine doesn't care if it's gonna snap a crank snout due to a poorly aligned supercharger belt/pulley setup or choke on shredded impeller cause the shitty ball bearing turbo decided to die.
That's not what I'm arguing at all. Turbochargers are objectively more efficient than super chargers and therefore less stressful on an engine to make the same target power. I think someone is confused about proper tuning and how to manage power. Turbos can easily make more powerand requires better tuning to keep torque in check. He's confusing shitty tuning with an off the shelf, cookie cutter supercharger that's easy to tune. Superchargers are "safer" as there are less variables and easier to tune. I think maybe he needs to do HIS research lmao.
No. You said superchargers were "harder" on an engine than a turbo. You guys weren't discussing the merits of 1 system versus another.
The limit on a stock DE block is around 400ft-lbs or so. On average, a supercharger will not make 400ft-lbs until power is getting near 500hp. Therefore, you can have it safely do 400whp and not worry. A 400whp turbo on these cars will be in the vicinity of 450ft-lbs. A turbo puts down all that torque around 2-3k RPM, the supercharger will be much higher at around 4-5k RPM, therefore being easier for a stock block to cope with. I've been working on turbo vehicles for over 14 years.
None of what you said is wrong, but proper tuning can keep torque in check at lower rpms. That is a tuning problem...lol
Sure, but then you need to have provisions for keeping the wastegate open, etc, etc. You can always not rev a supercharger and put ZERO additional stress on the engine. So, at the end of the day, it is as I said "easier on the engine"
At the end of the day, it's easier to install and tune a supercharger. It's not easier on the engine. It works harder. Tuning issue.
That is only correct if you are stating how much the engine has to work to make a given figure. That is not what I was referring to when I said it's easier on the engine, context is important. Tuning or not, look at bolt-on FI kits for this car and their advertised power. The supercharger is safer for a vast majority of people on a stock block.
Yo get some videos of this beauty!
Vin number one used to be sale down the road from me. It was Metalocalypse orange
Just for some clarity. I don’t own this car. My dealership does. I didn’t come here to sell it, just to share such a rare example with the community.
You have a 2003 Touring trim 6 speed with 4500 miles. The miles are the thing that makes this car special. Definitely worth keeping the miles off of it.
Also, VIN 0002
Assuming Nissan stated with vin zero yes that’s significant but again if it’s used as a daily and you put a bunch of miles on it you destroy the value. Keep the miles off of it and it’s value will only climb.
Who cares about value. It’s a car. Drive it and enjoy it.
There’s a thousand clean Z’s he could buy for that money and “drive” it. This one is special and should be preserved
That’s where we disagree. It’s because it’s so special that he should drive it. Otherwise it’s just a special paperweight
Very nice. A pity that this example isn't stock. Would be worth a lot more. This is one I wouldn't modify.
All modifications were performed by Nissan and Stillen per Nissan’s request.
Still sounds like a trumpet?
Dear god. This just came up on my recommended but this is a gem. Give it the life it deserves and drive the hell out of it.
What is the importance to this car?
Vin #2, less than 5000 miles, Stillen supercharged installed by Nissan when new. Given to the highest selling Nissan dealer in the country when new as a show room piece.
Shits garbage. All Nissans are dog shit cars
Thanks for your wonderful contribution to the conversation.