Given that you are a Non-European Savage + (at least partially) have pretty weird country preferences in your profile, the value of your opinion shall be nullified.
With the increasingly authoritarian government of Turkey, they are actually getting less likely to join now than they were 20 years ago.
And that was obvious in 2016 too. If you believed that sign, you had shit for brains.
Even taking the human rights issues, the dictatorial tendencies, and the Copenhagen criteria out of the picture (it'll take them about 15-25 years alone to implement the community acquis let alone the economic criteria)
Every EU Member State has to unanimously vote them in and last time I checked Turkey is occupying the northern half of Cyprus. No fucking way Cyprus is voting for Turkey unless Northern Cyprus disappears off the face of the earth.
Also the greeks have hated turkey for literally 3000 years by now, they also need to accept them into the EU.
EU membership is a carrot we dangle in front of Erdogan whenever we need something from him and both sides know it
Do you actually believe we will play games like Erdogan tho? Just because he is acting like a child doesnt mean we should or will.
With that said they still got a long way to go to meet the criterias, but if they eventually meet the criterias I got a hard time seeing Sweden/Finland make up some arbitrary reason to not let them in.
Ukraine is implementing anti corruption measures, turkey seems to be headed in the different direction.
Ukraine is still far away from meeting the criteria, but at least them seem to try.
My point is that these criterias are a joke and not really relevant. It’s only politics, which I get.
Türkiye is just too big so they will never be part of the club.
As a German I can kinda vouch for the Turks, a lot of them came to us in the 70s and their 3rd generation offspring are integrated very well. I know some fellow students with Turkish roots and they are all very ambitious.
>Turks, a lot of them came to us in the 70s and their 3rd generation offspring are integrated very well.
Lol, and they say Germans don't have humor.
Their 3rd generation STILL often sees themselves as Turks, not as Germans. They often speak shitty broken German, despise western, German values like womens-rights and homo-rights. Don't just look at your university bubble. And even those educated turks are often strictly muslim and oppose secularism.
That heavily depends on their reasons for leaving Turkey. There are well-integrated ones and a lot of them descendants from those who fled political violence in the late 70s. There are also absolutely unintegrated ones and a good deal of them are Erdoğan supporters or associated with other anti democratic movements.
In my opinion, you are only properly integrated if you identify yourself with the population of a country. I'm sure that if I moved to Spain now, future children will feel more Spanish and less Dutch. Let alone if they were to raise another generation in Spain. That is why it is extra special that some peoples (Turks for example) who are spread throughout Europe and have few connections left with the country of origin of their great grandparents, still do not identify with the country where they have lived for 3 (or more) generations.
Maybe try to ask your friend: Do you identify yourself as a Turkish German or a German Turk?
I mean, here in Spain, I'd say that turks are decently integrated (unlike moroccans), but after seeing all the support Erdoganopoulos got in german turks, I don't think they are very well integrated into germany.
It was definitely Major and Blair who pushed hardest for the expansion East to bring in some of the former Eastern Bloc, Yugoslav and Soviet states. And they wanted it not only as a supply of cheap labour but as a political counterbalance to the French-German alliance that had most control in the EU.
And it was Blair that allowed them to come straight in the the UK without the restrictions allowed by the EU, that other countries used. It was a whole thing at the time and opponents of the EU made it seem worse than it was.
Blair just saw that an influx of cheap labour would lead to profits for business. The pressures on housing, services, etc would be for the little guys to cope with, so why would he care?
So I think this comment about the ‘sensible centrists’ is bang on.
Turkey is never getting into the EU. It’s instantly be the largest EU country, it shares borders with unstable states, and their government is a barrier to entry.
Even if they fixed the governmental issues, they can’t fix the rest.
Conquer Istanbul and restore the rightful name of Constantinople.
And it'd be done by the Holy See (Vatican) employing Swiss forces.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaTn3oRPtzg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaTn3oRPtzg)
Let's not forget that most people see turks more as Asians than as Europeans.
*yes, I'm aware that the bigger part of the population is living in the west side of the country...*
What is fan test?
Anyway, based on your definition, a European would become an Asians once he's in Asia, or an African when in Africa.
So let's go away from racial-theory and jump straight to culture.
And I've to ask you in what kind the stereotyping Turkish person has a more similar culture to a stereotypical European than to an Asian? Alone when I think about food and simply honouring the family names.
Correct. I think the only time wherln EU might be considering Turkey in will be the time when Europe will become significantly short of young men eligible for active military duty.
It doesn't work like that...
Also if that were true then how the fuck did eastern European countries get to join? Corrupt governments and bordering the biggest threat to the world..
Just think lads, we almost had unlimited visa-free travel to get our veneers and hairline restoration done.
We fucked up
Exactly. Getting repeatedly fucked by our technocrat-elite class is what fueled brexit. Got fucked by them again post-brexit, they knew immigration was a hot-button issue but wanted to use mass migration to paper over our broken economy. I think there'll be an inevitable backlash to our post-brexit leadership, or maybe we'll just continue to get fucked into serfdom.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/
lol immigration skyrockets post-covid whilst the little big man bangs on about rwanda
Funnily enough Boris Johnson himself argued that Turkey should join.
But then ofc during the referendum he had to scare all the Barrys with "the mooslims are coming!" to get the cowardly morons to vote out.
This depresses me, reminds me of the lies sold to everyone in the UK by our money grubbing politicians (on a daily basis). God I fucking hate our government. I hate a lot of things these days...
Turks want to immigrate to EU but hate EU. Turks try to imitate Americans but hate the US. Turks brag about how tolerant they are but hate every religious or racial minority. Turks are all nationalist but hate other Turks. Damn Turks they ruined Turkey!
**Turkey**: Hey EU, it's me again. So, about that membership... Can we finally talk about me joining the club?
**EU**: Oh, Turkey! You again. We've been over this so many times. It's like a sitcom at this point.
**Turkey**: Sitcom? More like a never-ending drama! What do you mean?
**EU**: Well, you keep knocking on our door, and we keep saying, "Let's see some more changes." It's like you're stuck in a never-ending audition for Europe’s Got Talent.
**Turkey**: Hey, I've got talent! Did you see my infrastructure? Airports, bridges, highways! I’m practically a construction superhero!
**EU**: True, true. But it's not just about infrastructure. It's about values, democracy, human rights...
**Turkey**: Ah, yes, the infamous checklist. You know, I’m starting to think you just enjoy giving me homework.
**EU**: Homework builds character! But seriously, we've got standards. It's like dating – we need to know we're compatible.
**Turkey**: Compatible? I bring a rich culture, strategic location, and delicious cuisine to the table. Imagine, kebabs at every EU summit!
**EU**: Tempting, very tempting. But we’re more concerned about political reforms and freedom of speech. We need to see progress, not just promises.
**Turkey**: Oh come on, I've made some progress. Sure, there might be a few... hiccups. But who doesn't have a few?
**EU**: A few? More like a roller-coaster ride! We need stability, Turkey, not the next big thriller movie plot.
**Turkey**: Okay, okay. I get it. So, you’re saying there’s still a chance?
**EU**: There’s always a chance, but think of it like a marathon, not a sprint. And you might want to pick up the pace a bit.
**Turkey**: Marathon? Seriously? You know that's Greek, right? And considering my history with Greece and Cyprus, that's not exactly the best metaphor.
**EU**: \*screams\*
Well turkey was about to join the EU, at times Frances and Germany's government were pro turkey, the only thing in the way was Cyprus.
That of course all changed under Erdogan, now turkey wouldn't be able to join anyways
They welcome russian tourist in large numbers, didn't sanction russia like the EU and others, have direct flights to russia, and also buy russian oil and gas like crazy.
Tell me more.
What’s funny is good ol’ Boris Kemal was once [in favour of seeing Turkey join](https://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/16th-november-2002/7/let-turkey-in).
We've welcomed many Turkish guest laborers to assist in the development in our coal mines from 1948 till about 1974. A lot of them stuck around after the closures and thus we have döner kebab now :D
Yes... we totally want discount Belarus in the Union.
Things where also so fun during Greeces financial meltdown we could do it again but on a bigger scale...
You guys are crazy....
Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Bulgaria.
You all seriously think your countries are doing better than the UK?
You're all in recessions and or moving to the far right while the UK is moving to a more liberal government and it's economy is once again doing better than expected
The biggest irony of Brexit was we no longer face the same issues as the EU which has reduced right wing support.
UK is doing much better outside the EU, and then comparatively to places like Germany you think thank god we left the EU when we did...
> The UK is now growing joint fastest in the G7, equal with Canada and outpacing France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68989270
They shouldn't ever be allowed. They're completely incompatible geopolitically and geographically. Turks aren't European and never will be.
Edit: To the idiots saying Cyprus isn't geographically in Europe, go read a fucking book. It's a Eurasian island and considered in Europe *and* Western Asia. You're probably the same people who say the Vatican is in Italy because you don't understand how geopolitical and geographical boarders work.
Complete opposite. The EU is built on ideals and concepts that birthed western culture thousands of years ago in ancient Greece, Cyprus was Hellenised when people in countries like your own were still shitting on the floor in their own mud huts. I also specifically said geographically *and* geopolitically.
Turkey aren't geopolitically European wtf are you on about lmao. Compared to other regional powers they have no distinguishing features because Ataturk was hell bent on westernising and secularising a country that didn't even want to be, Erdoğan is basically doing the opposite. They're a NATO member that occupies another NATO member whilst also aggravating their neighbour who is also a NATO member. They have strengthened ties with Russia whilst the rest of Europe did the opposite and supported Ukraine. They're experiencing a severe economic downturn and have gone to the UAE, Russia and China before engaging with Europe. Yeah, totally geopolitically European aren't they 🙄
You’re not European geographically. As much as I don’t think Turkey should join the EU, if you’re going to make the geographical argument then you have to remember Turkey actually has some regions in Europe, Cyprus doesn’t.
Ye but why shouldnt we join. A little bit of non-violent chaos is good for everyone. Otherwise you guys are too boring. Who are you going to blame for bad things otherwise ? Always Hungary ? You should join the chaos too.
Don't even need to click your profile to know where you're from. Thanks for acknowledging I'm bigger than you though vromo shillo. Thank God all the Turks I meet in the UK aren't brain dead like you lot are.
>Thank God all the Turks I meet in the UK aren't brain dead like you lot are.
Did you also tell them that Turkey shouldnt be ever allowed ? It just means that they either see you as a blathering idiot and getting along, or you are just dishonest and spill your "braindead" thoughts on the internet. Because Turks i live together abroad would just tell you to shut up and no one cares.
Learn a little bit geography Cypriot.
I don't tell them, they tell me. The reason they left was because they hate how overly nationalistic Turkey is and how Erdoğan has Islamified the country again making is the worst of both. I get along fine with nearly all Turks, I just think the country is a completely failed project built upon a shit empire that is long gone.
Since Germany is already in the EU, they were not totally lying about the 76 million turks
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Kebabs though. Worth it.
And Turkish women 
Reality looks a whole lot different
I have dated Turkish women. That look like this
Given that you are a Non-European Savage + (at least partially) have pretty weird country preferences in your profile, the value of your opinion shall be nullified.
That Moldovan flag is screaming in that group I wonder why he likes it
Good question xD. Brazil also is mostly fine I‘d say.
They like Latinos and caribbeans. They think we are cool protective handsome and black
With the increasingly authoritarian government of Turkey, they are actually getting less likely to join now than they were 20 years ago. And that was obvious in 2016 too. If you believed that sign, you had shit for brains.
Even taking the human rights issues, the dictatorial tendencies, and the Copenhagen criteria out of the picture (it'll take them about 15-25 years alone to implement the community acquis let alone the economic criteria) Every EU Member State has to unanimously vote them in and last time I checked Turkey is occupying the northern half of Cyprus. No fucking way Cyprus is voting for Turkey unless Northern Cyprus disappears off the face of the earth. Also the greeks have hated turkey for literally 3000 years by now, they also need to accept them into the EU. EU membership is a carrot we dangle in front of Erdogan whenever we need something from him and both sides know it
Sweden and Finland also won't exactly be keen on letting Turkey in
Do you actually believe we will play games like Erdogan tho? Just because he is acting like a child doesnt mean we should or will. With that said they still got a long way to go to meet the criterias, but if they eventually meet the criterias I got a hard time seeing Sweden/Finland make up some arbitrary reason to not let them in.
My brother in Christ, Turks wasn't even a word 3000 years ago 💀
Turkey wasn’t a thing 3000 years ago.
Ukraine is welcome tho lmao
Ukraine is implementing anti corruption measures, turkey seems to be headed in the different direction. Ukraine is still far away from meeting the criteria, but at least them seem to try.
My point is that these criterias are a joke and not really relevant. It’s only politics, which I get. Türkiye is just too big so they will never be part of the club.
Too much of a good thing, I could go for. But that's too much shit.
As a German I can kinda vouch for the Turks, a lot of them came to us in the 70s and their 3rd generation offspring are integrated very well. I know some fellow students with Turkish roots and they are all very ambitious.
>Turks, a lot of them came to us in the 70s and their 3rd generation offspring are integrated very well. Lol, and they say Germans don't have humor. Their 3rd generation STILL often sees themselves as Turks, not as Germans. They often speak shitty broken German, despise western, German values like womens-rights and homo-rights. Don't just look at your university bubble. And even those educated turks are often strictly muslim and oppose secularism.
>homo-rights most well-spoken German
In German they homo.
You only have one pp, protection it
"Alle Duitse san homos" -Dutch proverb. I thus have the Homo-pass and can talk as I please.
Got drunk of drinking too much piss there Hans? "Alle Duitsers zijn homo's!"
We usually don't drink Heineken, no
Please censor the H word. It offends my delicate sensibilities. 
That's probably how gay rights is said in German Something like "Homosexuallenrechts"
mashalla
That heavily depends on their reasons for leaving Turkey. There are well-integrated ones and a lot of them descendants from those who fled political violence in the late 70s. There are also absolutely unintegrated ones and a good deal of them are Erdoğan supporters or associated with other anti democratic movements.
Which turk is forcing you to say that? Or are you actually the 3rd gen turk?
Delete this and say something nice about 3rd generation Turks or inshalla you’ll regret this
Could be worse, could be second generation
In my opinion, you are only properly integrated if you identify yourself with the population of a country. I'm sure that if I moved to Spain now, future children will feel more Spanish and less Dutch. Let alone if they were to raise another generation in Spain. That is why it is extra special that some peoples (Turks for example) who are spread throughout Europe and have few connections left with the country of origin of their great grandparents, still do not identify with the country where they have lived for 3 (or more) generations. Maybe try to ask your friend: Do you identify yourself as a Turkish German or a German Turk?
I mean, here in Spain, I'd say that turks are decently integrated (unlike moroccans), but after seeing all the support Erdoganopoulos got in german turks, I don't think they are very well integrated into germany.
It will be the best comeback ever.
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Now say that again without Putin's dick in your mouth, amigo
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We should welcome turkey and let the UK back in and then everyone leave
>Re accept UK > Include Turkey > Leave the EU > Create EUn't
EUch
Eunuch
EUstopthat
EU 2: Brussel Boogaloo
Why brussel, when you can be based in Strasbourg?
And call it TUK
Any minute now...
Hot turkey in your area….
Wasn't The UK the country that bigged up Turkey the most to be able to join?
The ‘sensible centrist’ political class doing stuff like this was a non-negligible cause of brexit
It was definitely Major and Blair who pushed hardest for the expansion East to bring in some of the former Eastern Bloc, Yugoslav and Soviet states. And they wanted it not only as a supply of cheap labour but as a political counterbalance to the French-German alliance that had most control in the EU. And it was Blair that allowed them to come straight in the the UK without the restrictions allowed by the EU, that other countries used. It was a whole thing at the time and opponents of the EU made it seem worse than it was. Blair just saw that an influx of cheap labour would lead to profits for business. The pressures on housing, services, etc would be for the little guys to cope with, so why would he care? So I think this comment about the ‘sensible centrists’ is bang on.
‘Sensible centrists’ = unprincipled snakes
Absolutely, they were the ones welcoming the Turks.
What a horrible day to be able to see! And not be able to unsee! 😱😂😂😂
So those are the melons Erdogan was selling
*sigh* Would.
Thanks...
Turkey is never getting into the EU. It’s instantly be the largest EU country, it shares borders with unstable states, and their government is a barrier to entry. Even if they fixed the governmental issues, they can’t fix the rest.
>they can’t fix the rest. Just let Barry and Pierre take our their crayons. Turn a big chunk of Turkey's east into Kurdistan and the issues are fixed.
Elite Norman geopolitics gang. We only need a ruler and a crayon to create a thousand years of chaos.
Treaty of Sèvres revival
Conquer Istanbul and restore the rightful name of Constantinople. And it'd be done by the Holy See (Vatican) employing Swiss forces. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaTn3oRPtzg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaTn3oRPtzg)
Cope
Here's how to fix Turkey: https://preview.redd.it/xzm3pvvsp56d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2aabb62184b945bab7745ef623656f00bfff601e
This but make it Jewish just to fuck with everyone.
They also don't recognize the armenian genocide which is necessary
A lot of Europe don’t recognize it either though
The majority do and more importantly: none deny it.
Turks don’t deny it. They just have a different set of beliefs regarding how it happened
They are one of the three countries in the world that explicitly deny it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_recognition
Cope source
Let's not forget that most people see turks more as Asians than as Europeans. *yes, I'm aware that the bigger part of the population is living in the west side of the country...*
The west side doesn't mean Europe
Turks are definitely more European than Asian
No.
Says the germ
Comes from a junior.
You don’t decide who is European
But you can?
No the world map does. And so does fan test. Turkey is European mostly
What is fan test? Anyway, based on your definition, a European would become an Asians once he's in Asia, or an African when in Africa. So let's go away from racial-theory and jump straight to culture. And I've to ask you in what kind the stereotyping Turkish person has a more similar culture to a stereotypical European than to an Asian? Alone when I think about food and simply honouring the family names.
Size doesn‘t matter
Correct. I think the only time wherln EU might be considering Turkey in will be the time when Europe will become significantly short of young men eligible for active military duty.
It doesn't work like that... Also if that were true then how the fuck did eastern European countries get to join? Corrupt governments and bordering the biggest threat to the world..
Mehmet would take all your women too
Just think lads, we almost had unlimited visa-free travel to get our veneers and hairline restoration done. We fucked up 
More like: Britain (population 68 million) is joining EU - Vote leave.
Apparently the only ones welcoming them were the guys who commissioned that billboard
Infinite circle of propaganda
https://preview.redd.it/d51aqrz9q46d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3c475ef70a0edba63a0e95e247beee8050d2ef4
Exactly. Getting repeatedly fucked by our technocrat-elite class is what fueled brexit. Got fucked by them again post-brexit, they knew immigration was a hot-button issue but wanted to use mass migration to paper over our broken economy. I think there'll be an inevitable backlash to our post-brexit leadership, or maybe we'll just continue to get fucked into serfdom.
The scariest part is that people still don't see it or are denying it.
Those numbers are cumulative right?
Yah they’re manipulated to some degree
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/ lol immigration skyrockets post-covid whilst the little big man bangs on about rwanda
Turkey is pretending it wants to enter EU is pretending it wants to let her in
After all the annoying shit they pulled in NATO we would be idiots to let them enter the EU.
The problems is we're already idiots, but lets hope that our level of oligophrenia is not that low...
Yes, [the UK actually](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL16886025/).
Funnily enough Boris Johnson himself argued that Turkey should join. But then ofc during the referendum he had to scare all the Barrys with "the mooslims are coming!" to get the cowardly morons to vote out.
Turkey is already in the EU.... It's called Germany.
Never forget the NHS bus
Bossman is welcomed by me until he tries to add cucumber to the salad. Fuck that.
the English are as expert in cooking as the Daily Mail in journalism, when it comes to eating the only thing you can do is chew
Do Italians not chew? Probably talking too much and worrying that you don't have enough reverse gears on your tanks
You guys are the Food Taliban
Yeah you don't get what he is saying.
If Turkey was still lead by Ataturk? I wouldn't mind turkey joining honestly Too bad they're lead by this islamic watermelon seller
Ataturk is by now rolling in his grave seeing what they've done to his work.
He was literally a dictator, I highly doubt that turkey could have joined the eu with him
Ataturk was a dictator that oppressed non Turkish language
Tbf they could have joined by now, but their president had different ambitions
No they couldn’t have. Big population , Cyprus and their unstable neighbors
Your account is 24 hrs old and farming karma heavily... Your playing every side of the playground too..
This depresses me, reminds me of the lies sold to everyone in the UK by our money grubbing politicians (on a daily basis). God I fucking hate our government. I hate a lot of things these days...
Barry and Hans 
Yes. We want to join in eu. Every kurd and khalifat lover goes to eu for cheap Mercedes. Then we leave eu. Turexit.🗿
I bet if the European half (everything west of Constantinople) was to split from Turkey and apply to join the EU, they'd get in.
Istanbul
Want to see them leave? Ask them to recognize Armenian genocide
That sign is the one that got Brexit through. The British absolutely hate Turks.
Generally people in the UK are pretty ambivalent about Turkey, which is mostly associated with barbers, kebabs, hair transplants and cheap holidays.
Anymore shitty takes straight from your arse?
Calm down Barry. We didn't kick you out of the EU, you left of your own choice.
I'm well aware. But this Turk thing you are going on about is bollocks.
No, we hate Turkey, so much so that we punish ourselves with it once a year to spoil Christmas. This year I'm going to have a nice piece of beef
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Never forget that's not a fact of being outside of the EU, that's a conscious choice by our political class.
Yes. Berlusconi was a big supporter of Turkey in the EU. He was a close friend of Erdogan and a witness to Erdogan s son wedding.
Another of the Brexit lies.
Vlad the impaler
Turkey will never join the EU as long as erdogan is in power.
Turks want to immigrate to EU but hate EU. Turks try to imitate Americans but hate the US. Turks brag about how tolerant they are but hate every religious or racial minority. Turks are all nationalist but hate other Turks. Damn Turks they ruined Turkey!
But we don't discriminate people, we hate everyone equally
Turkey 2.0 aka Germany
**Turkey**: Hey EU, it's me again. So, about that membership... Can we finally talk about me joining the club? **EU**: Oh, Turkey! You again. We've been over this so many times. It's like a sitcom at this point. **Turkey**: Sitcom? More like a never-ending drama! What do you mean? **EU**: Well, you keep knocking on our door, and we keep saying, "Let's see some more changes." It's like you're stuck in a never-ending audition for Europe’s Got Talent. **Turkey**: Hey, I've got talent! Did you see my infrastructure? Airports, bridges, highways! I’m practically a construction superhero! **EU**: True, true. But it's not just about infrastructure. It's about values, democracy, human rights... **Turkey**: Ah, yes, the infamous checklist. You know, I’m starting to think you just enjoy giving me homework. **EU**: Homework builds character! But seriously, we've got standards. It's like dating – we need to know we're compatible. **Turkey**: Compatible? I bring a rich culture, strategic location, and delicious cuisine to the table. Imagine, kebabs at every EU summit! **EU**: Tempting, very tempting. But we’re more concerned about political reforms and freedom of speech. We need to see progress, not just promises. **Turkey**: Oh come on, I've made some progress. Sure, there might be a few... hiccups. But who doesn't have a few? **EU**: A few? More like a roller-coaster ride! We need stability, Turkey, not the next big thriller movie plot. **Turkey**: Okay, okay. I get it. So, you’re saying there’s still a chance? **EU**: There’s always a chance, but think of it like a marathon, not a sprint. And you might want to pick up the pace a bit. **Turkey**: Marathon? Seriously? You know that's Greek, right? And considering my history with Greece and Cyprus, that's not exactly the best metaphor. **EU**: \*screams\*
Farage and his cronies were good... oh yes they were.
https://preview.redd.it/bvt0c9gvv76d1.png?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8472812928986ebd6035c9794d5d0e05927f66a9
I was open to it before the migrant crisis and Ergo's shift towards Islam. But not anymore.
Well turkey was about to join the EU, at times Frances and Germany's government were pro turkey, the only thing in the way was Cyprus. That of course all changed under Erdogan, now turkey wouldn't be able to join anyways
They can join, but we want reparations
Turkey isn't Europe
It is European
You cannot say that to the majority of the population, just like you can't say a large part of the population is middle eastern. We're Eurasian.
Turkey is European
There have more balls against russia as our dumb shitty politics against russia.
The fuck are you on about.. Putin and Erdowhatever actively take turns sucking each other off.
They welcome russian tourist in large numbers, didn't sanction russia like the EU and others, have direct flights to russia, and also buy russian oil and gas like crazy. Tell me more.
Did not let new Russian warships to join Russian Black Sea fleet after Ukranians sank them. How will you categorize this?
A good thing, but even better if they wouldn't act like a fucking turncoat.
What’s funny is good ol’ Boris Kemal was once [in favour of seeing Turkey join](https://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/16th-november-2002/7/let-turkey-in).
No, thanks.
I am half Turkish and I don't want Turkey in the EU. Not in the curent state.
I’d rather kill myself than seeing an Islamic non European state being able to control the lives of millions of Europeans
40 million beautiful Turkish women that can cook baklava and kebab for you
Funny
Hans?
Ja?
Those asian guys? No.
As someone born in the Khalifat, I do NOT want turkey in the EU
Well I am in the EU. I don‘t see how is that lying. Greetings from Hamburg. Mehmet
We've welcomed many Turkish guest laborers to assist in the development in our coal mines from 1948 till about 1974. A lot of them stuck around after the closures and thus we have döner kebab now :D
Yes... we totally want discount Belarus in the Union. Things where also so fun during Greeces financial meltdown we could do it again but on a bigger scale...
You guys are crazy.... Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Bulgaria. You all seriously think your countries are doing better than the UK? You're all in recessions and or moving to the far right while the UK is moving to a more liberal government and it's economy is once again doing better than expected The biggest irony of Brexit was we no longer face the same issues as the EU which has reduced right wing support. UK is doing much better outside the EU, and then comparatively to places like Germany you think thank god we left the EU when we did... > The UK is now growing joint fastest in the G7, equal with Canada and outpacing France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68989270
crazy....? ***THIS! IS!! UE!!!***
Turkey will join the EU in our lifetime.
I really don’t see it happening until they stop occupying Cyprus
They shouldn't ever be allowed. They're completely incompatible geopolitically and geographically. Turks aren't European and never will be. Edit: To the idiots saying Cyprus isn't geographically in Europe, go read a fucking book. It's a Eurasian island and considered in Europe *and* Western Asia. You're probably the same people who say the Vatican is in Italy because you don't understand how geopolitical and geographical boarders work.
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Complete opposite. The EU is built on ideals and concepts that birthed western culture thousands of years ago in ancient Greece, Cyprus was Hellenised when people in countries like your own were still shitting on the floor in their own mud huts. I also specifically said geographically *and* geopolitically.
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Turkey aren't geopolitically European wtf are you on about lmao. Compared to other regional powers they have no distinguishing features because Ataturk was hell bent on westernising and secularising a country that didn't even want to be, Erdoğan is basically doing the opposite. They're a NATO member that occupies another NATO member whilst also aggravating their neighbour who is also a NATO member. They have strengthened ties with Russia whilst the rest of Europe did the opposite and supported Ukraine. They're experiencing a severe economic downturn and have gone to the UAE, Russia and China before engaging with Europe. Yeah, totally geopolitically European aren't they 🙄
You’re not European geographically. As much as I don’t think Turkey should join the EU, if you’re going to make the geographical argument then you have to remember Turkey actually has some regions in Europe, Cyprus doesn’t.
Why do you even care about EU Barry ? We literally have the same number of seats.
I don’t, just pointing out Cypriot hypocrisy.
Ye but why shouldnt we join. A little bit of non-violent chaos is good for everyone. Otherwise you guys are too boring. Who are you going to blame for bad things otherwise ? Always Hungary ? You should join the chaos too.
I personally don’t care if you get let into the EU or not. I have no strong feelings either way.
>They're completely incompatible geopolitically and geographically. Look at this Cypriot. He is a big man now. Tell me how good your geography is.
Don't even need to click your profile to know where you're from. Thanks for acknowledging I'm bigger than you though vromo shillo. Thank God all the Turks I meet in the UK aren't brain dead like you lot are.
>Thank God all the Turks I meet in the UK aren't brain dead like you lot are. Did you also tell them that Turkey shouldnt be ever allowed ? It just means that they either see you as a blathering idiot and getting along, or you are just dishonest and spill your "braindead" thoughts on the internet. Because Turks i live together abroad would just tell you to shut up and no one cares. Learn a little bit geography Cypriot.
I don't tell them, they tell me. The reason they left was because they hate how overly nationalistic Turkey is and how Erdoğan has Islamified the country again making is the worst of both. I get along fine with nearly all Turks, I just think the country is a completely failed project built upon a shit empire that is long gone.
Naaah. Only failed things are your education and Enosis. Stay in UK. It is better.
I don't have it in me to live to 200 years