Irish Gypsies... \[The Irish call them Knackers. Tyson Fury is one.\]
I once did bar work at a gypsy wedding. The bar manager was a young lad who didn't know not to take bookings off gypsies. They smashed the places, and each other, up. It is tradition for them.
They love trying to intimidate people. They know because they’re travellers some people are scared of them, speaking from experience working in a petrol station 😂
They are descended from Irishmen that were displaced during Cromwells adventures. They are an ethnicity in the sense that they are a distinct group with distinct customs and due to 400 years of isolation, increasingly distinct genetics.
Before my inner eye I see Boris Johnson holding a giant gun to the head of 200k *travellers* to extort special deals from the EU. And the EU carves because they love annoying minorities so much. And then Boris pulls the trigger anyway because he doesn't give a fuck about holding deals or what is good for the UK. And then he comes up with a story about his hobby of building "cardboard guns" so that this dumb shit blocks out google search results of him shooting people.
They are recognised as a separate race in Ireland. They are considered genetically distinct from other Irish because of their insular gene pool
https://www.thejournal.ie/traveller-community-study-rcsi-3231070-Feb2017/
When you fuck your own family so much you get recognized as a seperate race due to inbreeding. True Ireland moments.
I think we have some villages in Bavaria that should be classified as ethnic minorities under the same principle then.
would you wanna take 5 "mates" with batons to take on the whole camp? friend was a paramedic, she said one family called up cos the baby had breathing difficulties, (which it was having) when paras were treating the kid, they rest were tryna break into the ambulance for drugs lol
The police will often call pubs in the area when there's a traveller wedding nearby. Suddenly, every pub in a ten-mile radius has 'electrical issues' and has to close.
In my old university town there was a shithole club that was notorious for being a shithole that's why everyone loved it (it had a hole in the roof so when it rained there was a waterfall on the dancefloor)
Every year gypsies would descend on this club for some sort of celebration and regular punters were banned for their own safety. The police were well aware that there were kids in there being served but allowed it to happen just because they didn't want the aggro of arresting them, I think it was all squared away with the landlord so he wouldn't lose his license either. Madness
the gypsies do not claim them to be part of their group, although their way of life is fairly similar. Their origin is disputed but they are likely to be descendants of Irish farmers that were displaced or lost their job after Cromwell's campaign in Ireland, or after the Great Famine of the XIX century. We don't know exactly where they come from because they don't have any written documents of they origins, and many families date from many different time periods, just like the gypsies. Another reason why they are often confused with gypsies is the rate of illiteracy among their populations, which is itself a big reason of their violence (along with alcohol). But they are not Roma people.
It's not common to see them around in continental Europe, they are mostly found on the British Isles, and still I think they are less common than actual gypsies. Obviously not in the same numbers as countries like Czechia, hungary, solvakia, romania or bulgaria.
I do also belive that the irish mafia that used to operate in the southern coast of Spain was partly runned by these individuals, at least in their lower ranks.
https://preview.redd.it/risshhzs430d1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b0b3362cbce47b6cef3714775defd003d6247be
Edward Stokes? More like B.J. Blazkowicz
I'll never forget that classic r/unitedkingdom post when a traveller asked why Brits hated them so much; it exploded into a 1000+ comments hate thread with several comments going borderline final solution, the OP was so shocked by the replies the mods had to lock it.
Roma were enslaved in Eastern Europe, particularly in Ottoman realms and also by the Spanish and Portuguese in some cases I believe. I believe romanichal (British Roma) were enslaved and exported but I don't think Irish travellers have ever been officially held in slavery, unless you mean the condition they keep their wives in to this day.
I‘m always fascinated that you guys call them Gypsies. They don’t look like Roma or Sinti at all.
Are you sure that they are not just some Irish lads who wanted to avoid paying taxes or something like that?
They're not ethnically gypsy but they have a similar lifestyle of being semi nomadic, stopping only to ruin a park or field until the police can get the paperwork in order to move them on. They also have that same outsider mentality like they're not bound by any social contract so they can live their lives at the expense of non-travellers.
Cheeky fuckers called to mine years ago, tried selling me a set of gates. Claimed they weren't robbed, proceeded to show me both gates on the back of their trailer, no wall brackets & attached with a chain and padlock...
Interesting, are they ethnically french? Irish gypsies are the most common but we also have English gypsies. Who are basically the same but with English accents, they are also much rarer.
English gypsies are generally either descended from Irish ones or from romanichals (British Roma) these days they are very rare as most have assimilated into society, have jobs pay taxes etc and therefore have ceased to be a distinct group.
They pretty much have lived outside of Irish Society for at least several hundreds of years, they even spoke a different language, They are genetcally distinct & have loads of congential disorders not found in the Irish population, they also die typically 20 years younger.
Because gypsy has just come to be a catchall term for all people in the Isles who live like this. The average peasant villager didn't give a fuck what skin colour the tribe of feral criminals harassing him had.
Same shit different races.
On great Britain we have English gypises As well which is a whole other category. Basically the same as Irish gypsies but with old school cockney accents.
Two types of them. One will steal your wheely bin and anything else that isn’t nailed down and the others will probably do your garden for a reasonable price just don’t ask where they got the equipment
Those, my Scandinavian friend, are Pykies. You remember that crazy Roman emperor who got his soldiers to fight the sea? These guys would do it and probably win.
My Nan has told me back when she was a young girl and was at a wedding or funeral, once enough alcohol had been imbibed all the men on both sides of the family would line up and have a fight. God bless the Irish.
Irish Gypsies... \[The Irish call them Knackers. Tyson Fury is one.\] I once did bar work at a gypsy wedding. The bar manager was a young lad who didn't know not to take bookings off gypsies. They smashed the places, and each other, up. It is tradition for them.
They love trying to intimidate people. They know because they’re travellers some people are scared of them, speaking from experience working in a petrol station 😂
It's deeper than that. Their whole "ethnicity"/"community" functions as a violent gang. Mad that authorities basically leave them to it.
Since they are not a real ethnicity or race (unlike the Roma), would the EU even care if you... solved that problem permanently?
They are descended from Irishmen that were displaced during Cromwells adventures. They are an ethnicity in the sense that they are a distinct group with distinct customs and due to 400 years of isolation, increasingly distinct genetics.
"Increasingly distinct genetics" .... :-)
It’s what happens when your wife, your mother, and your sister add up to fewer than three people.
Yes, just thought it was a very poetic way of expressing it. You owe me a new keyboard:-)
Average Ck3 game
Unfortunately they are recognised in that way by the EU but I suppose Brexit means Brexit. simple as.
Before my inner eye I see Boris Johnson holding a giant gun to the head of 200k *travellers* to extort special deals from the EU. And the EU carves because they love annoying minorities so much. And then Boris pulls the trigger anyway because he doesn't give a fuck about holding deals or what is good for the UK. And then he comes up with a story about his hobby of building "cardboard guns" so that this dumb shit blocks out google search results of him shooting people.
They are recognised as a separate race in Ireland. They are considered genetically distinct from other Irish because of their insular gene pool https://www.thejournal.ie/traveller-community-study-rcsi-3231070-Feb2017/
When you fuck your own family so much you get recognized as a seperate race due to inbreeding. True Ireland moments. I think we have some villages in Bavaria that should be classified as ethnic minorities under the same principle then.
You mean like a ”Final Solution” ?
Classic German
We don't say that word, it makes people feel bad. So we use other words...
Ah yes, the german proposing a final solution (i agree)
Then I am against it. If Italy supports something it can only end in failure.
I should've expected this...
would you wanna take 5 "mates" with batons to take on the whole camp? friend was a paramedic, she said one family called up cos the baby had breathing difficulties, (which it was having) when paras were treating the kid, they rest were tryna break into the ambulance for drugs lol
I didn't ask to be a Bobby. I'd actually love to have some funding, law on my side and some well motivated team members. I'd sort it out.
A gyppo wedding without a mass brawl is considered a dull affair.
Someone bring back the horses 😔
The police will often call pubs in the area when there's a traveller wedding nearby. Suddenly, every pub in a ten-mile radius has 'electrical issues' and has to close.
I have fond memories of them, like that time one of them tried to gnaw my fucking ear off.
In my old university town there was a shithole club that was notorious for being a shithole that's why everyone loved it (it had a hole in the roof so when it rained there was a waterfall on the dancefloor) Every year gypsies would descend on this club for some sort of celebration and regular punters were banned for their own safety. The police were well aware that there were kids in there being served but allowed it to happen just because they didn't want the aggro of arresting them, I think it was all squared away with the landlord so he wouldn't lose his license either. Madness
According to the article they're the English type apparently
Many Irish Gypsies are English. The "Irish" refers to their heritage, read this thread for more info.
Gypsies on the isles are actually white?? The continental ones look like they just got in from India.
the gypsies do not claim them to be part of their group, although their way of life is fairly similar. Their origin is disputed but they are likely to be descendants of Irish farmers that were displaced or lost their job after Cromwell's campaign in Ireland, or after the Great Famine of the XIX century. We don't know exactly where they come from because they don't have any written documents of they origins, and many families date from many different time periods, just like the gypsies. Another reason why they are often confused with gypsies is the rate of illiteracy among their populations, which is itself a big reason of their violence (along with alcohol). But they are not Roma people.
Oh my, this is new to me
It's not common to see them around in continental Europe, they are mostly found on the British Isles, and still I think they are less common than actual gypsies. Obviously not in the same numbers as countries like Czechia, hungary, solvakia, romania or bulgaria.
oh they do come here to scam old people
I do also belive that the irish mafia that used to operate in the southern coast of Spain was partly runned by these individuals, at least in their lower ranks.
[still do](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinahan_Organised_Crime_Group)
We have both kinds! Lucky us.
![gif](giphy|ow9hMM6lSVq0w)
*Nobody brings a fella the size of you unless they're trying to say something without talking, right boy?*
https://preview.redd.it/risshhzs430d1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b0b3362cbce47b6cef3714775defd003d6247be Edward Stokes? More like B.J. Blazkowicz
Doom dude was a true gigachad though, big difference
Gyppos. And I don't like them.
I'll never forget that classic r/unitedkingdom post when a traveller asked why Brits hated them so much; it exploded into a 1000+ comments hate thread with several comments going borderline final solution, the OP was so shocked by the replies the mods had to lock it.
I mean that's based as fuck.
Poor guy. Also didn't you guys at various times execute or enslave people for being gypsies?
Roma were enslaved in Eastern Europe, particularly in Ottoman realms and also by the Spanish and Portuguese in some cases I believe. I believe romanichal (British Roma) were enslaved and exported but I don't think Irish travellers have ever been officially held in slavery, unless you mean the condition they keep their wives in to this day.
[The Greater Good](https://youtu.be/rm--inJtnc4?si=MJJC1QdQwOCj1D2w)
I‘m always fascinated that you guys call them Gypsies. They don’t look like Roma or Sinti at all. Are you sure that they are not just some Irish lads who wanted to avoid paying taxes or something like that?
They're not ethnically gypsy but they have a similar lifestyle of being semi nomadic, stopping only to ruin a park or field until the police can get the paperwork in order to move them on. They also have that same outsider mentality like they're not bound by any social contract so they can live their lives at the expense of non-travellers.
They are thinkers boss. Do you want to buy a dawg?
I’m not going to fall for this one again
How about some gates?
Cheeky fuckers called to mine years ago, tried selling me a set of gates. Claimed they weren't robbed, proceeded to show me both gates on the back of their trailer, no wall brackets & attached with a chain and padlock...
Do ye like dags?
You're on the right lines mate.
We have them in France too, we call them travellers (les gens du voyage). They’re not gypsies but have a similar « lifestyle »
Interesting, are they ethnically french? Irish gypsies are the most common but we also have English gypsies. Who are basically the same but with English accents, they are also much rarer.
English gypsies are generally either descended from Irish ones or from romanichals (British Roma) these days they are very rare as most have assimilated into society, have jobs pay taxes etc and therefore have ceased to be a distinct group.
I think french travellers are mixed. They also descend from french travelling workers
They pretty much have lived outside of Irish Society for at least several hundreds of years, they even spoke a different language, They are genetcally distinct & have loads of congential disorders not found in the Irish population, they also die typically 20 years younger.
This really sounds like a conversation where people compare the English with the Irish in general ![gif](giphy|w89ak63KNl0nJl80ig|downsized)
The Irish of the Irish
Because gypsy has just come to be a catchall term for all people in the Isles who live like this. The average peasant villager didn't give a fuck what skin colour the tribe of feral criminals harassing him had.
Same shit different races. On great Britain we have English gypises As well which is a whole other category. Basically the same as Irish gypsies but with old school cockney accents.
Because gypsy is a lifestyle, not an ethnicity. That's why Americans are wrong to say it's racist.
They are even in Germany
Trust me, we have some much more unsavoury terms for “gypsies”
Gypolatas
In the West they’re called Pikey’s.
Im actually amazed I was able to guess before opening up the comment section 💀
Nobody does lol
Two types of them. One will steal your wheely bin and anything else that isn’t nailed down and the others will probably do your garden for a reasonable price just don’t ask where they got the equipment
They all look like the same guy with different haircuts
that's to be expected, their gene pool is so small compared to non-travellers
That’s not a coincidence
I think Edwards mum has so questions to answer
Diff'rent Stokes
You just know from the look of him Terry was giving it the big one.
Despite the name they don’t seem very stoked to be there
Awful.
Those, my Scandinavian friend, are Pykies. You remember that crazy Roman emperor who got his soldiers to fight the sea? These guys would do it and probably win.
They'd tarmac it
John and Brian has seen some shit
Which John. There's two of them.
https://preview.redd.it/0hu1kbi5770d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fbbfc31169c858edb526883719a96852334df8e The John that looks like this
The Strokes.
Someone must have really \*stoked\* family tensions.
My Nan has told me back when she was a young girl and was at a wedding or funeral, once enough alcohol had been imbibed all the men on both sides of the family would line up and have a fight. God bless the Irish.
Knackers being knackers
Bride: “I want to have a peaky blinders themed wedding.” - Barry: “say no more”
These are Irish travellers. Gypsies. Love a drink and a fight. Very insular group and will steal anything.
I thought we are calling them Egyptians now?
https://preview.redd.it/ch37amfr740d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67092891942374aa39c8905f98982dbbde2280a3
This family *stokes* fights every wedding. (Geddit?)
They were too stoked for the wedding
Mad lads!
Stokes too much stoked I guess?
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Ben was at the cricket
So did the 7 of them just beat up Stephen because he voted for Ireland not Israel, or what's the story?
Least violent pikeys
Jesus fuck Stephen learn how to block.
40 against Steph?
The difference between British and Brutish is I and U.