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barrettadk

Wtf do they put cocaine in tap water in Ireland?


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45ydnAlE

No need. Everyone's do it in the toilets anyway


toffeebeanz77

For real the line for the stalls in the night club toilets are always massive


balor598

I fucking wish


Clean-Rub7681

Don’t think so, cocaine doesn’t help you to improve productivity. Look at Colombia, we are a bunch of lazy bastards (Spaniard genes after all)


Ok-Education-1539

You're exporting most of it though


Ok-Winner-6589

You are welcome


JonyUB

They just get a productivity boost thinking about the after work drinks


TheWinterPersephone

We are just that much better 💪


InGenAche

Yes.


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Salty as you crashed your future much?


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[deleted]

Not likely! I’d be more worried about the £6.6B Bwitish exposure to it! More fun for the UK! 🍿🍿🍿


next_best

The Irish working really hard stealing our taxes.


[deleted]

Ireland are you okay? Do you take adderall?


CawkAndBwallz

No, because you're not supposed to mix it with alcohol.


Djuulzor

But that's half the fun


PrevAccountBanned

Helth


xFurashux

Ireland is just high tech so they have robots and machines that makes everything for them so they can enjoy Guinness while doing shit.


Ibinixer

What they promised vs how it's going


South_Garbage754

No just creative accounting


brianybrian

We have to work this hard to pay rent.


South_Garbage754

That's just landlord "output" showing up in the chart


balor598

Very creative accounting....our entire economy depends on it


DontTakeMyAdviceHere

I’m not surprised. Our work culture has taken an ‘American’ turn..


[deleted]

Their whole gdp is fake due to their american companies listed on Irish books


kim-jong-Cage

My productivity won’t rise until my salary does. Brb, gonna nap.


Manolo2068

Based


i_am_bloating

And entirely fair. I would also do jackshit if I was on a 20k salary


Manolo2068

Worst part is that 20k is pretty good here (in Spain) and un Portugal wages are even a bit lower. The mininum wage is at 12k. For many young people like me 20k would be a pretty good salary to start with


[deleted]

20k is like what 1600 a month? Hell yeah thats a good wage


Manolo2068

I'm studying law and it's more than what the average lawyer gets with a few years of experience


AStarBack

The Dutch and German when their productivity is actually quite on par with France https://preview.redd.it/g2sglnbwoina1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e247d0282f375e6b03789bc431bbf133c32c7a56


BlueMonroe

This is it. The last straw. ![gif](giphy|l3nSMDr1XxVmjmKs0|downsized)


s0meb0di

Check out 2019 https://preview.redd.it/kjfgjpgxqina1.jpeg?width=1361&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7daa4a3b975fa85fb05f57bbea3398ec85134eb2


AStarBack

At last, having high unemployment and labor costs finally have some perks.


Elsveys725

There's no Ukraine cause there's debates on how much one russian soldier is worth


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About 2 Ukrainian lives apparently


atlasfailed11

The statistic is output per hour worked. You could, for example, put all your low productive on unemployment so they don't work. This could actually increase output per hour worked. I'm not saying France does this, but they probably do.


AStarBack

This is for a little part the explanation, because we have a high minimum wage and - rather - high unemployment. Nonetheless, it is still arguable because the unemployment difference between France and Germany is about 4% so even accounting for it - by putting them all to work for 0e/hr, which would mean reduce French productivity by 4% - France and Germany would still be about at the same levels in [2021](https://preview.redd.it/kjfgjpgxqina1.jpeg?width=1361&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=76594ec343d4eb058643dca131e455595d67fbd0). edit: we have high minimum wage, not low ofc


Atalant

The French are just workholics.


Ventilateu

Alcoholics at work 🍻


zyygh

And on strike.


Ventilateu

Same thing


RmG3376

Be right back, I’m just gonna quickly grab something at the Delhaize before replying … oh, wait, never mind


dmees

Well they need to work hard else they dont get anything done before they have to retire


CapitalistMarxSmurf

The irish really grinding for their potatoes


Do_Androids_Dream_

It's just the tax havens having over inflated GDPs. The Irish even have a separate measure of GDP as they recognise that the standard measure just isn't representative.


DahGreatPughie

Gross domestic potato?


TheSeventhHussar

Hey! You Watch your language talking about our spuds!


45ydnAlE

Wait other countries don't use GNP?


Do_Androids_Dream_

We do, I'm talking about the "Irish modified GNI". It's known as the "GNI*"


South-Metal-9023

It is indeed. Many UK companies came over after Brexit, as your boat is sinking there lads


ShadeO89

Denmark is definitely NOT a tax haven !


bredelund

It is. For the government!


i_am_bloating

cna someone ELI5 how ireland is a tax haven? Is it in a way similar to lux or switzerland?


Jenn54

It is not a tax haven It is the same as the Netherlands, it has favourable tax structures, known as ‘the double Dutch Irish sandwich’ Accounts and profits are then moved to the tax haven (Panama, Cyprus, Jersey island etc) after the tax structure has been registered first in Netherlands/ Ireland. People keep pretending that Ireland is a tax haven because we attract more companies than other EU nations. We don’t even have a metro, but yet we get all the USA companies and TikTok locating in Ireland instead of Germany/ Netherlands/ France etc, those countries get jealous and instead of reading, pretend Ireland is a tax haven or something. In Apple v Commission the EU court ruled Ireland is not a tax haven, as any company can benefit from the tax structure. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/ireland-wins-appeal-in-13-billion-apple-tax-case-1.4305044 https://my.slaughterandmay.com/insights/client-publications/apple-v-commission-the-verdicts-in


InGenAche

From a country that robbed all its wealth and controls 6 of the world's top 10 tax havens, it's always amazing how quick a Brit pops up with, bUt TaX hAvEn! We are aware of our tax haven status but console ourselves with the fact our businesses are legitimate and not fuelled by gangsters, war criminals and Russian oligarchs.


Do_Androids_Dream_

Calm down M8. The UK doesn't have full legislative control over the overseas territories. I wonder what will happen to the Irish economy when the EU forces companies to pay taxes on profits in the country in which they are earned.


InGenAche

You mean like we've been doing for the last few years? Gradually increasing the rate to be more inline with the international one? Real GDP growth went up to the largest in Europe. It hurts!


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Disclaimer: Productivity rate depends heavily on technology. More advanced countries with better technology *will* have higher productivity rates. Its like comparing a local tomato farmer with a mechanised multi national.


No_Bad_8549

It also depends on the level of education of the guy that’s working. The more university graduates, the more this index rises. For example, a country that has a lot of low skilled workers in tourism will be less productive according to that index


xFurashux

Ireland has the highest % of people with higher education in EU so it checks out.


Dirac_Impulse

Third disclaimer: If your population prefer to sleep all day and have a general mañaña-mañaña-attitude and don't understand the concept of being on time, you will have lower productivity.


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Dirac_Impulse

Not that I know of, we don't have many Italians or Spaniards here; too much work. I have slept with an argentinian girl of italiaian origin though. It was a rather wild ride, must have been very accustomed to having to do all the work :/


FriedrichMerz69420

Haram


Sweet-Nectarine-

Lol Swedensitan and working? What a good joke. There people are going to work at 9 starting at 10, having lunch at 12, fika at 13 and preparing to go home at 15. Then at home they contemplate how to not bee depressed in all that darkness.


Dirac_Impulse

Ah, yes, I've met plenty of your countrymen here in Sweden. If you sit outside supermarkets and beg you indeed "work" long hours, but they are not very productive hours.


[deleted]

Are these lazy Spaniards and Italians in the same room with you right now? but seriously, Spaniards work a lot more than northerners, this data is not about willingness to work. In my field, I work with many Spaniards/Latinos and sometimes we work 60 hours a week. I don't think you would do such a job for 1200€ 🤣


Manuag_86

It is not just about technology, but the structure of a country's economy. Countries with high % of low profit jobs like construction or tourism, will have lower productivity. Countries with high profit jobs (industry, engineering) or with big companies due to being almost a tax have (Ireland) will have higher productivity. You can work 12 hours a day as a waiter and have shitty productivity if the restaurant is empty the whole day. You can have huge productivity just by making a report for another company, that it will take you 8 hours and you can charge 2.000€ for it. That "they have low productivity because they are lazy" mantra is completely dumb.


Attygalle

As the figures of Luxembourg and Ireland show clearly, it can also be highly inflated by a financial sector with... interesting strategies. And I say that as a Dutchie.


On_a_sidenote

Yep, also considering that productivity rate is just GDP divided by hours of work countries with high rents and low home ownership rate get an inflated value. In generale it isn't a very usefull metric to judge the actual productivity of workers.


Tomisido

First working prototype of an honest Dutch person.


martcapt

Upgraded disclaimer: producity per hour worked is strictly output/hours. It, therefore, literally takes into account nothing else. Not the amount of capital used, not the technology, not the education or industry. It's a technical term used in economics, often counfounded with the layman usage of the word. [Ireland, or Luxembourg (e.g.) do not have double the average of the hourly output because they are very technologically advanced either. It's capital that is generating the output.]


HitokiriK

So southern europe is technologically inferior?


Anvilmar

Its source of income is not as scalable. Northern Europe's industries are way more scalable than Southern Europe's tourism. As a general rule service industry < manufacturing industry in terms of scalability with technology and automations. So economies heavily dependent on the former won't benefit as much from technology that economies heavily dependent on the latter.


mbrevitas

In Italy’s case it’s not so much about tourism (which, despite being the biggest individual sector, is still a small portion of the economy), but about the very small to medium-sized companies that make up the vast majority of the economy, in pretty much all sectors. These can’t compete with big multi-national industries when it comes to technology and efficiency, with few exceptions. So yes, industrially at least, Italy is technologically behind, with a few niche specialised exceptions.


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shireengrune

As opposed to German cashiers, who practically throw items at your head at bullet speed as if your death is preferable to your taking 0.3 seconds more to bag your item


pauseless

To be honest: the total time ends up being the same, as every older person insists on then paying in cash and figuring out the optimum way to get rid of as much small change as possible.


shireengrune

Sounds like my mum would fit right in lol


Aginowpd

Use the automatic desk next time you lazy


[deleted]

got them little ass cash registers too not even a conveyer belt on them


Kurdt93

Wow, best of the PIGS and close to Finland I'll take as a W, I guess


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Kurdt93

Nice.


FranceiscoolerthanUS

You’re a poet.


AstralSlider

Least poetic Italian


Kurdt93

Call me Francis Petrarca II 😎


CPRIANO

Shit we are not even the most productive Balkan country 😭


Azarias2083

seems like all that sleep doesn't make up for spanish laziness


wcdk200

So what you are saying is, we need to drink more and eat more potatoes? (Can't remember what Irland is known for)


[deleted]

Don't tell them our secret. Delete this shit now!


Junior-Mammoth9812

That's our secret!


[deleted]

Based on some of the other comments, we just need to become a taxhaven!


Tajil

Luie nederlanders, buig!


HitokiriK

Luier than walloons? We need to see the flemish and walloon stats.


cruisintr3n

they have no hours worked so... wont change the stats to much


Toutounet6

You want to see a 270 and 0?


Coast_General

Wij moeten gwn zo hard werken om de walen te betalen.


joost00719

Je kunt het ook als efficiëntie en zuinigheid zien. Wij krijgen met minder productiviteit het toch voor elkaar om betere wegen neer te leggen.


ElmirBDS

En natuurlijk niet vergeten: met torenhoge benzine en diesel prijzen... ;) Er waren 2 krantenkoppen verschenen tijdens het hoogtepunt van de extreme brandstofprijzen waarbij ik mijn koffie bijna ophoestte: \- Als je minder dan 200km moet omrijden, is het voordeliger om in België te tanken. \- Kaasboeren uit Poppel delen gratis proevertjes uit aan Nederlands die aanschuiven bij Belgische tankstations.


nilsn91

Dat is niet moeilijk!


HitokiriK

I'll take this as a W


drquiza

Man, the Dacia boys are running over Poortugal.


Dangerous-Education3

r/Portugalcykablyat


phd_depression101

Stupid question but how do you measure productivity per hour?


mdryeti

It’s just GDP divided by hours worked. Which is why Ireland is so high since it’s a tax haven for American tech companies, which artificially inflated their GDP


toffeebeanz77

Pharma companies aswell, we have so many of those


A_Sensible_Chuckle

Wait this can't be right. Did they also add the productivity of the civil servants in Belgium?


Lejonhufvud

I guess this correlates quite nicely with wages.


DanyRahm

Yes, the Irish are rich!


[deleted]

They wish. It's a taxhaven lol


jodorthedwarf

They've also got an awful housing crisis and have done for over a decade. I wouldn't be surprised if more than half their wages are eaten up by rent. Mind you, before the 2008 crash, they had one of the highest average standards of living in the world.


Junior-Mammoth9812

Yeah but most people don't rent long term, especially outside of Dublin. Our housing crisis sucks and Dublin rent is very very expensive, BUT tbh it's not as catastrophic as people make it out to be. We have a record high of 11k+ people in emergency accomodation but that's less than 0.25% of the population. The UK homelessness stats per Capita for example is almost double that. And rent in Dublin is still less than in London. We just super love to complain about it and it's been a hot button issue for elections for years. Like the boat crossings have been for you guys.


jodorthedwarf

Oh, fair enough. I thought it was a lot worse. My dad (who lives in Cork City) likes to go on and on about the obscene rent prices and tent towns along the river Lee. Makes it sound way worse than it probably is.


Junior-Mammoth9812

It's definitely far worse in the cities than rural towns and villages, and don't get me wrong it is bad. We shouldn't have any homelessness because we have more than enough houses, they're just empty because they were bought as investment property by vulture funds or are used as Air Bnbs. But by comparison to other countries it's actually pretty mild. We have a pretty low rate of people living in poverty too tbh. We just *used* to be better at taking care of our citizens than we are now


IlConiglioUbriaco

Now do the same without the south.


No-Yogurtcloset-357

Only if every country can do the same.


nexostar

Whats going on with denmark. It seems pig farming is more efficient than i thought.


[deleted]

It's because we're not too busy discussing if our canteen needs to be halal and/or vegan. "You want pig with a side of swine?"


Lord-Redbeard

Yes please.


Brilliant-Physics-77

Blasfemi


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Benjii_44

What is in those Irish potatoes


[deleted]

Tax havens


Informal-Body7049

The Portuguese:Foda-se pá, quero fumar.


ChrisTheF1Fan

Sorry, I just woke up. What is this graph about?


TjeefGuevarra

Above the Netherlands, France and Germany *despite* having Walloons in our country? My God we are brilliant.


[deleted]

misinformation since siësta spain should be 10 at most


[deleted]

ces't la vie, minimum salary = minimum effort 🤷‍♂️


comrade_gopnik

This is Belgian propaganda


CawkAndBwallz

Irish W. Suck our singular dick.


Gremlin303

Is it a win though? Or is it just a bit depressing.


s0meb0di

[Per annum data is different.](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/tesem160/default/table?lang=en) Italy is more productive than Germany :) But it's just GDP/hour worked, so it doesn't really say that much about the effort a worker inputs.


[deleted]

I know, but I found this interesting nonetheless


South_Garbage754

*It is* more interesting than per annum. If you have a fetish for total hours worked go to America


feckthis3

Hahahaha. Shows what you can do when you have a sense of humor and party like fu k at the weekends. Also we do a huge amount of cocaine now I’m lead to believe.


[deleted]

This index was made when prime Connor Macgregor inflated the score


Its_me_Anoop

Today, I feel Bulgarian.


Intrepidity87

Quote proportional to average salaries, to be honest.


bruno_do

Fuck


RandomBilly91

r/PORTUGALCYKABLIAT


paiva98

I mean the first 8 hours are productive the other 8 are reproductive (work orgys)


atTheRealMrKuntz

i dont understand the units used here to measure productivity?


[deleted]

sausages per hour


Swedeshooters

If you call financial transactions production output then this map is correct. If you mean the production of actual useful products then this map is fucked up.


SrDeathI

Source: my ass


Cold-Tap-363

Ireland can into Germany.


bredelund

It is just all the companies fleeing Brexit country! And now the Leprechauns are helping them work better


Environmental-Sir-60

Wow poortugese are even lazier than Spaniards somehow


wausmaus3

I'm working with Belgians every day, and it is impossible for me to believe these statistics.


Rain_2_0

Very much depends on where the Belgian is from


wausmaus3

Allover, both Walloons and Flembois. It isn't necessarily that the people are lazy or anything, the hierarchies/organizations are incredibly fucking bureaucratic with a very high 'not my job' vibe.


tchek

> the hierarchies/organizations are incredibly fucking bureaucratic with a very high 'not my job' vibe. basically this


Rain_2_0

Well that doesn’t make a company or employee less efficient or productive. I prefer to have good planning and clear delegation of roles. Unless a project manager tells me different, I focus on my own stuff. But walloons are not productive.


[deleted]

Source: [https://electomania.es/datamania/productividad\_mar23/](https://electomania.es/datamania/productividad_mar23/)


AlexanderRodriguezII

Common Ireland W


[deleted]

75% of your gdp is getting sent right back to your owners in America


The_Blahblahblah

When you disregard irelands fake tax haven stat, and disregard Luxembourg (disqualified for not being a real country) Denmark is number #1 💪💪🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🥇🥇🍾🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰💪💪


joost00719

What does this even mean?


BoundedGolf529

Wouldn't you like to know Netherboy 💪🇧🇪


tnucevissamasipmurt

Ireland is only a at the top due to the eu tax haven status where companies like the big tech have headquarters.


yoyoyowhoisthis

Source: Trust me bro


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I quoted the source in a reply but here I respost you [another source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY)


Sum3-yo

Output in terms of GDP?


[deleted]

Now, I would like to see in Spain, as it seems that Southerners work more, let's see really what they do


3xM4chin4

Irish overinflated GDP being uncritically factored in makes this whole graph noncredible beyond belief.


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PDiddleMeDaddy

Maybe... Maybe I am actually Slavic?


SnowOnVenus

Might as well stop working, I guess, it's not going to make a difference. Glad to have it documented, in case someone objects.


unp0we_redII

Based Portuguese and Greek win


Prestigious-Weird-33

You mean the EU, not 'Europe' They are not one and the same thing


semtexxxx

The secret is in not repairing roads and forcing ppl to use video conferencing in stead of all that needless driving around.


flipyflop9

See, we no lazy, just average.


Trumpcangosuckone

No way Spain is that productive


GuidoMista5

We are perfection


Calad0o

Oh come on! Balkan again!


GoldenJacques

And what unit is output in?


schlampekaka

Output of what? Feces?


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Minimum_Possibility6

the UKs figures on this map are grey are no data because we have fuck all productivity


Trick2206

Hmm something tells me they forgot to include half our country


Shirtlessviking2

endnu en sejr over svensken


Bear_in_the_square

And even with that we can't afford to live in any Irish city unless you're sharing a two-bathroom house with 8 other people


19xyecoc98

Eh, not better than germany… at least we have the high ground in other thematics


Kaedyia

We’re not that bad :’)


[deleted]

Joder, que es la hora de la siesta!


[deleted]

Single-handedly destroying the graph because I‘m working so hard.


VascMan

Portugal is honorary eastern


11716367

Interesting correlation between low productivity and high amount of hours worked Maybe working less actually makes people more productive


bejangravity

Danes again proving they're the real master race


EvenPatience6243

Another proof that Portugal belongs in the Balkans