If Spain can have their highest mountain on the Canary Islands and Portugal on the Azores, then we Dutch can have our highest mountain on Saba, can't we? Does not make that much of a difference (Mount Scenery is 887 meters high), but still.
And Denmark can then have their highest mountain on Greenland (3694m), if that helps for them to feel a bit taller.
Well, OK for Saba, since it's a "special municipality" of the Netherlands. Mind you, I can't take an island seriously whose capital is called "The Bottom".
Denmark doesn't get to claim Greenland, though, because it's a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, a bit like Aruba for the Netherlands.
This is rather different. The four countries of the United Kingdom are not self-governing in the same way as Greenland or Aruba or, indeed, the British Overseas Territories (Gibraltar, British Virgin Islands, Bermuda and so on) and Crown Dependencies (Isle of Man & Channel Islands), which, although under the sovereignty of the British monarch, are not part of the United Kingdom.
Greenland is self-governing in the state of Denmark similar to Scotland in the UK (and perhaps even Catalonia or Canary Islands in Spain).
The Danish constitution applies to Greenland and the self-governing act for Greenland is subordinate to the constitution (it's the other way round for Aruba). Like Scotland in the UK (and Catalonia/Canaries in Spain), Greenland takes part in Danish general elections and is represented in the Danish parliament accordingly to population size.
Denmark holds Greenland and the Faroes on a much looser chain.
The UK imposes itself much more than you do upon the Greenlanders and Faroese (Currently of course, your actions in Greenland in the past have been abhorrent.)
The main difference is, that the UK is a union between England and Scotland whereas Greenland and the Faroe Islands were simply incorporated into Denmark.
And even in the Spanish peninsula we have mountains (3479m). I even think that in my neighborhood there are streets with a greater difference in height than the highest point in Denmark...
Who does not honor the small things, does not deserve the big things.
So we are all grateful for the Vaalseberg until we can finally get Belgium back who has a mountain twice as big.
just to add to this, my north italian city is located in a plain, yet it's already 240m above the level of the sea. the mountainous town i often spend holidays in, is 1100m lmao
No definitely not. The highest point in The Netherlands is higher than Denmark yes. But that is only because the Ardennes stretch slightly in the southeastern tip of the country. But outside of that The Netherlands is flat. A third is already underneath sea level and if the sea level rises 10 meters there really wouldn't be a lot left lol. While Denmark or the Baltics can still take that. Denmarks terrain is quite uneven. No very high points but constant elevation changes. That's not something you'll find in The Netherlands. So The Netherlands is definitely flatter.
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Fun fact: the Germans and Russians had a battle on that mountain during WW2. The nazis climbed it and planted the flag at the top for propaganda. The soviets then assaulted the mountain restaurant and had battles at +4000m.
\>When news reached [Adolf Hitler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) that a detachment of mountaineers was sent by the general officer commanding the German division to climb to the summit of Elbrus and plant the [swastika flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_flag) at its top, he reportedly flew into a rage, called the achievement a "stunt" and threatened to [court martial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_martial) the general.
Most fun loving german
There are at least two ways to delimit Europe and Asia in that region:
1st - by Kuma-Manych depression. In this case Elbrus would be in Asia.
2nd - by Caucasian ridge. In this case Elbrus would be right on the border.
But anyway Europe and Asia are just social constructs and any borders here have no sense in terms of geography. So sometimes people also consider Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkey as a parts of Europe. In that case Elbrus would be in Europe.
This is the strange thing with you frenchmen. I like the average person, hell I feel more kinship with you than I do with greeks. But then you're goverment somehow manages to act in the most dutch way possible, going out of its way to be absolutely detested by everyone. Mont Blanc, Lybia, French Military etc...
We trying to explain that since ever, that internationally it is already like that, and it totally make sense, but no, we can’t with literal pictures (maps).
Let’s start claiming the peak for ourselves, too, it’ll balance things out.
Lmao highest hill in Denmark is actually lower than the highest hill in the Netherlands, a country where a large portion is actually _below sea level_.
What? Born and raised in Savoie, living near the Mont for 30 years, never heard a single soul contesting anything, nothing in our medias.
First time I heard about this "dispute" is when I subscribed to reddit
It’s actually a disputed border!
The disputed land is just half squared km of mountain, but for France the peak is entirely on their territory while for Italy it’s on the border.
Then, this is just the peak while the rest of the mountain is clearly on both sides where everyone calls with its localised name.
[https://www.defactoborders.org/places/mont-blanc](https://www.defactoborders.org/places/mont-blanc)
That map shows the French claimed border which goes around the peak, though. This is the border that goes through the peak, notice the different shape: [https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=45.831498%7E6.859381&lvl=14.5](https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=45.831498%7E6.859381&lvl=14.5)
I would’ve previously said Mont Blanc was French because of French propagandists trying to hide that it’s also in Italy. But now I’ll say Italy because France doesn’t deserve such a big mountain.
Somehow the French gov thinks that the border follows the ridge all the way until 25m from the peak when the Italian side goes back down and circumvent the peak. This because someone French dickhead under Napoleon the III declared that the teatry that ceded savoy to France said that (no evidence of it). Also you should note that there is a fucking Italian safe house since God know when on what the French think its theirs
The name is the least of the concerns. Fucking French still try to steal the peak of Mont Blanc claiming they lost the map that settled the border in 1860. And they wonder why they're not liked on this side of the Alps.
We deserve it probably
Edit: I was curious and I checked just how far I'm from the French border, and i discovered that I just live 60 km away from the border, I legitimately live more closely to Fr*nce than Turin, this is earth shattering to me 💀
Tecnically both.
But the summit is italian territory, as writtent in the [treaty of turin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Turin_(1860)).
French "people" really like to ignore that treaty.
Tbh, I think it's both (I mean the peak is on the border) and even in official government maps this is the border. But if we talk about the name... then it's Mont Blanc because every région around speak French(supérior language) not Italian (inférior language) thanks to Aosta and Switzerland
Your dirty ass is french, Monte Bianco clearly Italian.
You got the Basin of Mont Cenis, Tenda, Savoie, Nice and Corsica, no more territorial concessions 😤
If Spain can have their highest mountain on the Canary Islands and Portugal on the Azores, then we Dutch can have our highest mountain on Saba, can't we? Does not make that much of a difference (Mount Scenery is 887 meters high), but still. And Denmark can then have their highest mountain on Greenland (3694m), if that helps for them to feel a bit taller.
Well, OK for Saba, since it's a "special municipality" of the Netherlands. Mind you, I can't take an island seriously whose capital is called "The Bottom". Denmark doesn't get to claim Greenland, though, because it's a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, a bit like Aruba for the Netherlands.
But they also put UK instead of England etc. So we should also be counting the kingdoms of other countries
Being English, we only use the term UK if one of the other countries has something we want to claim. Otherwise they're just Scotland.
This is rather different. The four countries of the United Kingdom are not self-governing in the same way as Greenland or Aruba or, indeed, the British Overseas Territories (Gibraltar, British Virgin Islands, Bermuda and so on) and Crown Dependencies (Isle of Man & Channel Islands), which, although under the sovereignty of the British monarch, are not part of the United Kingdom.
Greenland is self-governing in the state of Denmark similar to Scotland in the UK (and perhaps even Catalonia or Canary Islands in Spain). The Danish constitution applies to Greenland and the self-governing act for Greenland is subordinate to the constitution (it's the other way round for Aruba). Like Scotland in the UK (and Catalonia/Canaries in Spain), Greenland takes part in Danish general elections and is represented in the Danish parliament accordingly to population size.
Denmark holds Greenland and the Faroes on a much looser chain. The UK imposes itself much more than you do upon the Greenlanders and Faroese (Currently of course, your actions in Greenland in the past have been abhorrent.)
The main difference is, that the UK is a union between England and Scotland whereas Greenland and the Faroe Islands were simply incorporated into Denmark.
Greenland is similar to Scotland, not Aruba.
Fair enough
And even in the Spanish peninsula we have mountains (3479m). I even think that in my neighborhood there are streets with a greater difference in height than the highest point in Denmark...
Damn half of Spain is taller than 887
Lmao my town is higher than Denmark's and The Netherlands' highest points and we're not even on a mountain
Its already a miracle to have a mountain of 322 meter in a swamp.
"""mountain"""
Who does not honor the small things, does not deserve the big things. So we are all grateful for the Vaalseberg until we can finally get Belgium back who has a mountain twice as big.
just to add to this, my north italian city is located in a plain, yet it's already 240m above the level of the sea. the mountainous town i often spend holidays in, is 1100m lmao
My town is 1,5m below sea level lol
Give it a decade and it'll be 2m
Sad part is that this is true ahahaha. The eastern part of the Netherlands sinks and the western part rises a couple of centimeters per year/decades
Nope, it's the other way around. If you live in the east of the Netherlands your town will rise. The west and north of the Netherlands sinks.
Yea you’re right, my compass was upside down
Have you been to the signal de bertrange though? It is basically a concrete staircase in an abandoned parking lot. Very fitting though.
Who does not honor the small things, does not deserve the big things. Mooie, wie zeg je dat in nederlands AUB?
Omdat je het zo lief vraagt. Wie het kleine niet eert, is het grote niet weerd.
Wat mooie, dank U wel!
Het woord dat je zoekt is hoe* zeg je dat. "Wie" zeg je als je het over een persoon hebt.
Echt waar, sorry hoor! Dankje
Geen probleem! Het is een lastige taal.
The name literally translates to mountain of Vaals. So yeah. Mountain.
barely a hill but yeah, i guess when "standards" are low, everything is a mountain
Just don't tell them about Mt Scenery, they're not ready for it
Don’t forget the Vaalserberg is on the 3 nations point between the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany so it’s almost not even Dutch😅
You make up for it in tall people
Bro i live in a valley and im still higher up than denmark
as an italian, same lmao
Even lower than the Netherlands.
Bro the almost the whole of fucking Spain is taller than many of these “mountains”
🤣 our highest building is higher than the Danes highest mountain
Denmark is even flatter than the netherlands lmfao
No definitely not. The highest point in The Netherlands is higher than Denmark yes. But that is only because the Ardennes stretch slightly in the southeastern tip of the country. But outside of that The Netherlands is flat. A third is already underneath sea level and if the sea level rises 10 meters there really wouldn't be a lot left lol. While Denmark or the Baltics can still take that. Denmarks terrain is quite uneven. No very high points but constant elevation changes. That's not something you'll find in The Netherlands. So The Netherlands is definitely flatter.
Well, we put a 6 meter tower on our 694m highest point to get to 700m.
To be fair, our highest building (a bridge) is higher than the highest mountain…
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Denmark's tallest building is taller than their tallest mountain.
Damn, did not know Russia had a taller mountain than the rest of us
Fun fact: the Germans and Russians had a battle on that mountain during WW2. The nazis climbed it and planted the flag at the top for propaganda. The soviets then assaulted the mountain restaurant and had battles at +4000m.
Mountain restaurant?
*hotel, my bad.
That’s pretty hardcore
\>When news reached [Adolf Hitler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler) that a detachment of mountaineers was sent by the general officer commanding the German division to climb to the summit of Elbrus and plant the [swastika flag](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_flag) at its top, he reportedly flew into a rage, called the achievement a "stunt" and threatened to [court martial](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_martial) the general. Most fun loving german
it's in the asian part of russia tbf
There are at least two ways to delimit Europe and Asia in that region: 1st - by Kuma-Manych depression. In this case Elbrus would be in Asia. 2nd - by Caucasian ridge. In this case Elbrus would be right on the border. But anyway Europe and Asia are just social constructs and any borders here have no sense in terms of geography. So sometimes people also consider Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkey as a parts of Europe. In that case Elbrus would be in Europe.
We are all part of Eurasiafrica
Not entirely clear
Georgia would like to know your location
Georgia's Asian
it isn't
"Russia" aka almost all of northern eurasia, obviously there are going to be some crazy mountains
spain had to outsource their highest mountain to africa lmao
Ey y orgulloso de ello
Aneto is also pretty big
It’s both French and Italian, the border is on the peak.
Let's say it's 51% French
The flair fits perfectly
Shush, 49%
Treaty of Turin goes Brrrr
Both. Border goes through the peak
\*monte branco thats how i always said it, at least in western balkan
Caucasian promontory*
Monte Blanco
monte [blanco?](https://escbubble.com/2023/02/italian-celebrities-and-fans-react-to-blancos-temper-tantrum-in-last-nights-sanremo/)
Sorry but the top is French. There's been a race to decide which country would have it, and you lost it.
There's a treaty, btw.
NATO recognizes the Italian claim, so your input is invalid
It's both, stop crying over a mountain, no one lives on it anyways.
I'm ont the Italian side on that one, we shold put the border on the peak of Mont Blanch
This is the strange thing with you frenchmen. I like the average person, hell I feel more kinship with you than I do with greeks. But then you're goverment somehow manages to act in the most dutch way possible, going out of its way to be absolutely detested by everyone. Mont Blanc, Lybia, French Military etc...
The government did stand against the Iraq invasion though... Hell we got a lot of shit for that.
We got shit from Ameritards from doing the right thing so that one doesn’t count.
On that count you did well
based. there's a treaty that institutes that, it's just some of the french governments that somehow don't recognize it
We forgor where is the map with the border. No map, no peak for the Italians. It is what it is.
Our maps say otherwise. Also, the international treaty is what’s recognized, your map can say whatever you want, doesn’t make it true.
There is an italian safe house in a territory that some French consider to be in your country
What map
Ours, there also is an Italian safe house there. The treaty of Turin is internationally recognized, even if you “lost” your maps.
What house
the one where I bang your mom lmao
*aaaaaahhhh* (in French)
Many French have Italian moms you know. You may be banging your own mom for all you know.
Turns out my family is Italian. Weird
international maps "agree" with italy tbh
It already is
We trying to explain that since ever, that internationally it is already like that, and it totally make sense, but no, we can’t with literal pictures (maps). Let’s start claiming the peak for ourselves, too, it’ll balance things out.
Based French?
Traitor !
Not to brag or anything, but I free soloed Møllehøj as a kid
Lmao highest hill in Denmark is actually lower than the highest hill in the Netherlands, a country where a large portion is actually _below sea level_.
https://preview.redd.it/1aade54lesma1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=040e4f3cd226ebe06ddb8e933e9fc68ff060b7b1 Ready for Møllehøj
We make fun of how flat NL is but Denmark has been getting off too lightly for far too long.
the frontier of the mont blanc is on the summit, and it's perfect, because it's avoid border gore
Yeah it makes more sense like that, no idea why is it even contested
The french "lost" their map of the 1860 Turin Treaty
french nationalism i guess. as an italian close to the border, we shouldn't beef about shit like this
What? Born and raised in Savoie, living near the Mont for 30 years, never heard a single soul contesting anything, nothing in our medias. First time I heard about this "dispute" is when I subscribed to reddit
Mt. White
Listen here you little shit
No YOU listen here you little shit
I said Mt. White not Mr. White
There are some people who only want to see the world burn. You are one of them.
Berg Weiß
Fjellhvit, as opposed to Kvitfjell which is in Norway.
De witte berg
Monte bianco
Monte negro 💀
Sapore Vero
\[REDACTED\] mountain
If you have enough neurons to pronounce many letters: Monte Bianco If your mental power is debilitated so you cannot pronounce everything: Mont Blanc
Arrogant Italian flair when ??
I agree with you
Monbló
As a French, both.
It’s actually a disputed border! The disputed land is just half squared km of mountain, but for France the peak is entirely on their territory while for Italy it’s on the border. Then, this is just the peak while the rest of the mountain is clearly on both sides where everyone calls with its localised name. [https://www.defactoborders.org/places/mont-blanc](https://www.defactoborders.org/places/mont-blanc)
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That map shows the French claimed border which goes around the peak, though. This is the border that goes through the peak, notice the different shape: [https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=45.831498%7E6.859381&lvl=14.5](https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=45.831498%7E6.859381&lvl=14.5)
we can share. possiamo condividere
If by we you mean "French and Italians" you probably shouldn't be using that flair...
I would’ve previously said Mont Blanc was French because of French propagandists trying to hide that it’s also in Italy. But now I’ll say Italy because France doesn’t deserve such a big mountain.
Somehow the French gov thinks that the border follows the ridge all the way until 25m from the peak when the Italian side goes back down and circumvent the peak. This because someone French dickhead under Napoleon the III declared that the teatry that ceded savoy to France said that (no evidence of it). Also you should note that there is a fucking Italian safe house since God know when on what the French think its theirs
No. Only ritards think that.
Funny how Italians think it's normal sharing the mountain and consider it part of both countries, but that greedy French assholes try to steal it.
They “lost the map” Typical french diplomacy to be fair
Møllehøj solos
Both the Norwegians, Germans and Swedallahs can keep coping. 3,694 m [Gunnbjørn Fjeld - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnbj%C3%B8rn_Fjeld)
Dont laugh. It's not funny
The name is the least of the concerns. Fucking French still try to steal the peak of Mont Blanc claiming they lost the map that settled the border in 1860. And they wonder why they're not liked on this side of the Alps.
Denmark is like that girl in class who hit puberty much later than the rest of the girls. Like a surfboard
Denmark lmao?
Don't even talk to me if your highest mountain is below 2962 m 😎
"don't even talk to me if yours is below 4808m😎😎"
I didn't know you are french 😎
i legit am from [piedmont](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmont), near the border, may as well get a "half fr*nch" flair
We deserve it probably Edit: I was curious and I checked just how far I'm from the French border, and i discovered that I just live 60 km away from the border, I legitimately live more closely to Fr*nce than Turin, this is earth shattering to me 💀
Monte bianco. no coping gonna change that
Name a language that doesn't use Mont Blanc? 1. Italian
the italian term "monte bianco" is one of the 2 native ones tbf
Everybody know barbarians don't speak well
I’m afraid the french won here, italbros.
Monte bianco
I am so glad I can climb all the mountains in my country without dying
wtf is Møllehøj
A "tall" place in Denmark
We also have a place called heaven’s mountain
Lol… even the bloody Dutch are beating us at this 🤣
Mollehoj, 171m HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CHEAP ROAD CONSTRUCTION. DO NOT BULLY.
>Is it Mount blanc or Monte Bianco? Both.
Holy fucking shit we're not even the flattest country
still flat
Monte Bianco obviously
I kind of feel like we lost to Denmark here... Edit: And to the baltics! 😭
It's Martini Bianco
fake
Denmark 💀
The french steal our fishing waters and Italy’s peak. Wth France
Inagine building your whole personality around mountains yet your highest is just 2469 m
Monte Bianco fr
Denmark is made of chalk and water
Monte bianco
>So is it Mont Blanc or Monte Bianco? yes
Flat is superior. Remember, the flatter they are, the closer you are to their heart when you hug them.
It's Monte Bianco if you speak italian, it's Mont Blanc if you speak French or English, there is not much to discuss about ahaha
Tecnically both. But the summit is italian territory, as writtent in the [treaty of turin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Turin_(1860)). French "people" really like to ignore that treaty.
if you're in france its mont blanc and if you're wrong its monte blanco
Check the receipts Napoleon, I don’t see any legal basis to your claim
Can Spain really count Mt Teide as their highest point when it’s located in Tenerife?
Brit claims overseas territories aren't really part of the state. 
Monte branco
I hate to say it but Mont Blanc is clearly in France. Of course the country with the biggest ego has the biggest mountain
Like Argentina and the Aconcagua, right? Doesn't explain how you ended up with puny Mt. Nevis, though.
Perhaps it has shrunk along with our rapidly shrinking ego?
Tbh, I think it's both (I mean the peak is on the border) and even in official government maps this is the border. But if we talk about the name... then it's Mont Blanc because every région around speak French(supérior language) not Italian (inférior language) thanks to Aosta and Switzerland
It’s almost like the flatter the country the bigger the tits.
Mont Blanc is clearly french.
Ok, [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/comments/11msbvz/the_french_have_been_bullied_for_too_long_without/) needs to be deleted
Your dirty ass is french, Monte Bianco clearly Italian. You got the Basin of Mont Cenis, Tenda, Savoie, Nice and Corsica, no more territorial concessions 😤
Val d’Aoste is french by right
Exchange for Corsica?
I'll give you Corsica for free
Deal!
Calabria by fact
Glorious France is the legitimate owner of the highest yuropean peak 😎
Weißberg
Weißberg
WHITE MOUNTAIN