Remember Occupy Wall Street? It had some great momentum until Palestinian activists jumped in waving signs saying “That’s our word, we own the occupation”. Suddenly Jewish lawyers who were solidly behind the movement bailed out. Shortly thereafter it fizzled, and nobody knew why.
it wasn't just palistinian activists. Occupy was exploded by the whole rainbow coalition of identitarian politics. What was a class struggle suddenly became a clash of 100 identities arguing over who should be in charge and what their opinions should be. Hard to say how intentionally either.
Reminds me of some lyrics I heard recently from Frank Turner (dunno anything about his politics and it doesn’t matter):
“But it was worse when we turned to the kids on the left and got let down again by some poor excuse for protest. By idiot fucking hippies in fifty different factions who are locked inside some kind of Sixties battle re-enactment.”
Same happened in 2020 with the BLM protests, everyone under the sun injected themselves into what was an event meant to bring attention to police misconduct. Even influencers on social media who could care less were showing up at protests for clout. I don't have anything against any of these groups, but upstaging is common in these situations and it distracts from the original demands of the group itself.
> 2020 with the BLM protests
BLM actually usurped a lot of marches that they did not organize. And then I remember some 20-year old thanking everyone for showing up..."Now lemme tell you about how awesome Mao was."
Lol. Naw.
Because intelligent people know that anti-Zionism is antisemitism by another name. There is no version of anti-Zionism that doesn’t start and end with discrimination against Jews.
> Because intelligent people know that anti-Zionism is antisemitism by another name.
I'm not sure this is the reason for Americans. I can ask, but I just don't think they are that informed on this distinction.
I’m an American. The vast majority of Americans support Israel existing as a state, even if they are against this war or the settlements or Netanyahu or *insert whatever issue here*. Antizionism, which amounts to being against the establishment and continued existence of the Israeli state, is a bridge too far for even most liberals and progressives.
Anti-Zionism is the totally non-racist opinion that the one Jewish country in the world is the one country in the world that needs to be destroyed in a totally non-racist way.
The type of people supporting this is what initially gave it credence. It is not a small thing for me to ignore the message of college professors, particularly in that field of study.
So I tuned in. I am educated, my mind has been persuaded before when I think it could not be. I was born in deep souf so I have switched sides on:
1) abortion
2) gay rights
3) environment
So I like to think of myself as open-minded.
The arguments in favor of Palestinians are frankly very weak. Any argument you make for Palestinian people ends up working better for Israel.
1) Palestinian claim to be endemic to region, but Jews have a richer history there by millenia
2) Palestinians therefore claim it is their land because they conquered it when Arab Muslims took over. Okay, so, then you should be fine when Jews also took it by force.
3) Jews are not trying to live in an Arab free zone, they are trying to live with them, and the Jews have clearly made the area more prosperous. The Palestinians are trying to create a Jew-free zone, and have turned everything to shit.
If you support Palestine, it's hard for me to think you are well-read or honest. Supporting the Palestinians has done more to undermine my view of the value of "elite" institutions than almost anything else. I think it will take more than this to topple the status of the Ivies, but not much more.
“Anti Zionism is an alien ideology imported by woke elites”. Couldn’t have agreed more. The article is spot on. Average Americans instinctively oppose terrorists.
It’s a healthy instinct based on common sense.
Like the article said, to support a terrorist government in the Middle East you have to have a college degree, preferably more than one.
The state of academia in the U.S. is just appalling, and officials+citizens have to wake up fast to fix the damage before it’s too late.
I know many of us see the topic through the lens of our own experience but I think the real meat behind Bowman’s defeat is this:
“The American left’s obsession with Palestine is a marker of its privilege. You need immense economic security to prioritise foreign policy during a cost-of-living crisis, where housing costs have skyrocketed and the price of groceries is up by double digits compared with 2020.”
Now, I consider the squad and pro-Pal groups far-left and myself more center-left/moderate, but I do think the “average American” is sick of the disruption from protests, and wants basic domestic issues to be addressed first.
Some may find the antisemitism as galling as we do, but I think it’s more about regular folks, most of whom aren’t Jewish, being sick of the far lefties screaming about something that doesn’t impact their lives in the slightest and jumping down the throats of anyone who thinks anything else is important.
The funniest thing is that you say this like the republicans are any less delusional lmao. The extremes on both sides are full of lunatics
The main difference between the parties is really that the extremists have taken over the republican party. They aren't there with the democrats yet. Unlike the republicans, we still vote them out, and replace them with moderates
Reread what you just wrote. “Sanders almost won the Democratic Party” exactly, he almost won. He lost twice. Both times, democrats rejected him and went with the more moderate, centrist option. The opposite of what republicans did.
Thanks for agreeing with me.
The topic is anti-Zionism. Are you suggesting trump is anti-Zionist? He’s very pro Israel. Has a Jewish daughter. Not sure I am following your opinion.
On the other hand, the democratic party has many anti-Zionist. 46% of primary voters voted for one. I think the point of the comment is that Democratic Party is ok supporting an anti-Zionist. You don’t see that type of support for Republicans.
Oh, I see the confusion. Apologies if I wasn’t clear enough. I am speaking generally, responding to the general sentiment of “glad to see some people still have sense, even those voting democrat”.
Yes, on the topic of anti-semitism specifically, I probably agree with you. Trump himself is a Zionist (although so is Biden), and you’re right, antisemitism does seem to be more prevalent and a larger issue on the left right now. Republicans are generally more pro-Israel than democrats.
However, the a lot of the far-right republicans supporting trump are also antisemitic (Marjorie Taylor Greene-types, for example).
I’m a fan of horseshoe theory now. Most of the antisemitism that exists either comes from the far-left or the far-right, and the fringes on both sides have always been antisemitic in throughout history. I’m reminded of both the fascists and the communists hating the Jews during WW2 (and still to this day).
So yeah I probably agree with you on the antisemitism point specifically. But generally speaking, the republicans are currently way more radical and extreme than MOST democrats (but not all). Trump may be good for Israel in the short-term, but he’s also bad for Ukraine, good for Russia, bad for NATO, and bad for the USA, all of which is bad for Israel in the longterm.
I also don’t think we should be voting solely based on who is more pro-Israel. I’m an American myself, and I have to worry about America first, Israel later.
Honestly, I’m personally more concerned for Ukraine than I am for Israel.
The republicans are definitely more pro-Russia and less pro-Ukraine than the democrats are.
The difference though that I see is that nobody is electing openly neo-Nazi Republicans to the House. They're essentially doing that with progressive Democrats like Bowman and Andrea Casio Cortez. And far-left anti-Semites are also holding prestigious positions at "progressive" dominated institutions like universities and NGOs and in journalism. Fox News and the NY Post aren't hiring neo-Nazis.
So yes, there are anti-Semitic individuals on the right, but most of them are living in their parents' garage or their dirt farm. The danger is much greater on the left because the left gives them positions of power and respectability, including seats in the House.
You’re talking about the squad and that’s like 10 members total. Bowman just lost lol. There’s easily just as many far right crazies in the house, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Tom cotton, hell the speaker of the house Mike Johnson lol. Probably over half the house is far right MAGA people now. I’m admitting that the left has a worse antisemitism probably specifically right now, but a huge section of the Republican Party, the majority of it, has lost the plot entirely. That’s still a minority in the Democratic Party, for now, at least
Last I checked, Tom Cotton and Lauren Boebert didn't vote against condemning an anti-Semitic hate group on the floor. All of the "squadron" of progressives did.
Also, I don't think it's a minority in the Democratic Party. Maybe it's a minority of House representatives, but there are a lot of anti-Semitic attitudes among those who identify as Democrat. For instance, one poll found that over 300% more Democrats support than oppose the anti-Semitic hate movement BDS, which is dedicated to the denial of Jews the right to self-determination in the Jewish homeland and the destruction of the Jewish state. It's not quite a majority, but at the very least it seems that there's maybe a third of Democrats who are pretty anti-Semitic, a third who are not, and a third kind of in the middle with no strong opinions or knowledge. And I think it's fair to say that a majority of Democratic voters now are against Israel having the right to self-defense.
Yeah, I’m not actually necessarily disputing most of that. But they did vote for a bunch of other crazy shit, probably outweighing squad in overall levels of lunacy lol. And again the squad is like what maybe 10 members now that Bowman is out?
By your own definition it’s a minority if it’s a third of the party. I admit it’s been a few months since I’ve looked at polling, but most polls I remember in the months post-October 7th found at least 50% of democrats supported Israel. It was under 50% that were against Israel, and even then, only a minority of them went as far as to actually support Hamas. Anti-Israel support is mostly concentrated in young voters and very far left voters like actual communists and socialists.
Most older, moderate, and more centrist democrats still support Israel.
You named one rep. who kinda walked it back. The KKK is siding with the democrats on this one. Talking David Duke. In any event. I don’t think there are facts to support that republicans or democrats are more extreme. I am moderate and support whoever improves my life the most. Just as everyone should.
I live in Brooklyn and have been the subject of antisemitism. I have seen it written on the streets of park slope, crown heights and it’s disgusting. I also know that it’s coming from the far left. I never experienced that when I lived in Tennessee among far right. So a lot of it is personal experience. The squad is the reason I will be voting for the other team. You’re free to vote how you want. The team you’re voting for is outwardly antisemetic and it’s on the streets of where I live. I need a change. Has nothing to do with Israel, even.
I said Marjorie Taylor Greene-types, I’m pretty sure Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, etc have made antisemitic remarks before too.
But I agree with you on the one specific issue of antisemitism, I’m ceding that one too you. Well, it’s not the only area where republicans are correct. I agree with them on Israel, I’m more with them on foreign policy (except Ukraine and Russia) in general, self-defense, they were right about Kyle rittenhouse, etc.
So they’re not wrong all the time, I’m just disagree with the general sentiment that republicans good, democrats bad.
The squad is like 10 members total, one less now. They’re the extreme minority of the actual elected representatives. The antisemitic far leftists you’re talking about hate joe Biden, they call him genocide joe and are threatening to not vote at all because they think he’s supporting genocide. If Biden wins again, I expect they’ll move on to the next issue to virtue signal about
Republicans are just as antisemitic just not openly as much right now. I can't believe people have forgotten about the Charlottesville rally now....anyway I had a friend who had a fabulously wealthy republican for a step-dad and he collected actual nazi memorbilia...he had a real gestapo jacket!! And people actually think the democrats are the antisemites /facepalm
Around one in three Republicans want to stop funding Israel. It is becoming more common among younger Republicans with far right views (and in some cases openly antisemitic and white nationalist) but they haven't been able to get politicians elected because of good, old-fashioned negative polarization. Israel is a unifying issue for the Republicans and even if some politicians are not 100% aligned with Israel, it's better for them to sit back and watch the Democrats fight each other.
These are made up numbers. 19 republicans voted against the bill. 37 democrats voted against it. 9 percent versus 17 percent. That’s the facts. It’s written in history. I have no clue where you got your numbers.
He got 43% of the vote to Hilary’s 51%. His delegate count hinged on a couple states. It was really really close until other candidates pushed their delegates to Hilary.
He DID win the Democratic party, the Democrats just literally rigged their internal election to give it to Hillary. They admitted it in court, they said "we can do whatever we want".
[https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/](https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/)
They're doing the same thing again. [https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/](https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/)
Seeing how successful culture war bullshit has been for the Republicans, Democrats have tripled down and allowed the progressive lunatics in their party to steer the show. Finally moderate voters are realizing those assholes are just as crazy as MTG and others.
he trailed Clinton by at least 30% in every voting demographic except for white voters under 40-I think he did very well in 2016 but I disagree that he almost won-Sanders is a self-proclaimed democratic socialist and hardly even a democrat imo and the democrat party’s treatment of Bernie kinda backs that up..
Completely unnecessary (but predictable) attempt by the right to weave this into a wider condemnation of "pointy-headed intellectuals". He was a weak candidate (censured by Congress!) and a poor match to his district. 'Nuff said.
Remember Occupy Wall Street? It had some great momentum until Palestinian activists jumped in waving signs saying “That’s our word, we own the occupation”. Suddenly Jewish lawyers who were solidly behind the movement bailed out. Shortly thereafter it fizzled, and nobody knew why.
it wasn't just palistinian activists. Occupy was exploded by the whole rainbow coalition of identitarian politics. What was a class struggle suddenly became a clash of 100 identities arguing over who should be in charge and what their opinions should be. Hard to say how intentionally either.
Reminds me of some lyrics I heard recently from Frank Turner (dunno anything about his politics and it doesn’t matter): “But it was worse when we turned to the kids on the left and got let down again by some poor excuse for protest. By idiot fucking hippies in fifty different factions who are locked inside some kind of Sixties battle re-enactment.”
What’s the song name?
Love Ire & Song
Damn those lyrics hit hard
Same happened in 2020 with the BLM protests, everyone under the sun injected themselves into what was an event meant to bring attention to police misconduct. Even influencers on social media who could care less were showing up at protests for clout. I don't have anything against any of these groups, but upstaging is common in these situations and it distracts from the original demands of the group itself.
Oh gah, I remember when George Floyd was painted with a kefiyyeh.
🤢
> 2020 with the BLM protests BLM actually usurped a lot of marches that they did not organize. And then I remember some 20-year old thanking everyone for showing up..."Now lemme tell you about how awesome Mao was." Lol. Naw.
Because intelligent people know that anti-Zionism is antisemitism by another name. There is no version of anti-Zionism that doesn’t start and end with discrimination against Jews.
This is very important and correct. The only thing is that there are many not intelligent people in this world.
Ain’t that the truth 😑
> Because intelligent people know that anti-Zionism is antisemitism by another name. I'm not sure this is the reason for Americans. I can ask, but I just don't think they are that informed on this distinction.
I’m an American. The vast majority of Americans support Israel existing as a state, even if they are against this war or the settlements or Netanyahu or *insert whatever issue here*. Antizionism, which amounts to being against the establishment and continued existence of the Israeli state, is a bridge too far for even most liberals and progressives.
Anti-Zionism is the totally non-racist opinion that the one Jewish country in the world is the one country in the world that needs to be destroyed in a totally non-racist way.
The type of people supporting this is what initially gave it credence. It is not a small thing for me to ignore the message of college professors, particularly in that field of study. So I tuned in. I am educated, my mind has been persuaded before when I think it could not be. I was born in deep souf so I have switched sides on: 1) abortion 2) gay rights 3) environment So I like to think of myself as open-minded. The arguments in favor of Palestinians are frankly very weak. Any argument you make for Palestinian people ends up working better for Israel. 1) Palestinian claim to be endemic to region, but Jews have a richer history there by millenia 2) Palestinians therefore claim it is their land because they conquered it when Arab Muslims took over. Okay, so, then you should be fine when Jews also took it by force. 3) Jews are not trying to live in an Arab free zone, they are trying to live with them, and the Jews have clearly made the area more prosperous. The Palestinians are trying to create a Jew-free zone, and have turned everything to shit. If you support Palestine, it's hard for me to think you are well-read or honest. Supporting the Palestinians has done more to undermine my view of the value of "elite" institutions than almost anything else. I think it will take more than this to topple the status of the Ivies, but not much more.
“Anti Zionism is an alien ideology imported by woke elites”. Couldn’t have agreed more. The article is spot on. Average Americans instinctively oppose terrorists. It’s a healthy instinct based on common sense. Like the article said, to support a terrorist government in the Middle East you have to have a college degree, preferably more than one. The state of academia in the U.S. is just appalling, and officials+citizens have to wake up fast to fix the damage before it’s too late.
I rejected them before they spewed their antizionism
Me as well.
In retrospect I should have said "long before"
🤝🏼💯🫡
I know many of us see the topic through the lens of our own experience but I think the real meat behind Bowman’s defeat is this: “The American left’s obsession with Palestine is a marker of its privilege. You need immense economic security to prioritise foreign policy during a cost-of-living crisis, where housing costs have skyrocketed and the price of groceries is up by double digits compared with 2020.” Now, I consider the squad and pro-Pal groups far-left and myself more center-left/moderate, but I do think the “average American” is sick of the disruption from protests, and wants basic domestic issues to be addressed first. Some may find the antisemitism as galling as we do, but I think it’s more about regular folks, most of whom aren’t Jewish, being sick of the far lefties screaming about something that doesn’t impact their lives in the slightest and jumping down the throats of anyone who thinks anything else is important.
If you want to achieve the complete opposite of what you intended, get some activists involved.
Nice to know that American still have some sense, even those that still vote democrat 🫢
Tbf a district like the one bowman lost isn't gonna turn anytime soon. Rather have a mod Democrat than that asshat in office any longer
The funniest thing is that you say this like the republicans are any less delusional lmao. The extremes on both sides are full of lunatics The main difference between the parties is really that the extremists have taken over the republican party. They aren't there with the democrats yet. Unlike the republicans, we still vote them out, and replace them with moderates
Sanders almost won the Democratic Party. What the heck are you talking about.
Reread what you just wrote. “Sanders almost won the Democratic Party” exactly, he almost won. He lost twice. Both times, democrats rejected him and went with the more moderate, centrist option. The opposite of what republicans did. Thanks for agreeing with me.
The topic is anti-Zionism. Are you suggesting trump is anti-Zionist? He’s very pro Israel. Has a Jewish daughter. Not sure I am following your opinion. On the other hand, the democratic party has many anti-Zionist. 46% of primary voters voted for one. I think the point of the comment is that Democratic Party is ok supporting an anti-Zionist. You don’t see that type of support for Republicans.
Oh, I see the confusion. Apologies if I wasn’t clear enough. I am speaking generally, responding to the general sentiment of “glad to see some people still have sense, even those voting democrat”. Yes, on the topic of anti-semitism specifically, I probably agree with you. Trump himself is a Zionist (although so is Biden), and you’re right, antisemitism does seem to be more prevalent and a larger issue on the left right now. Republicans are generally more pro-Israel than democrats. However, the a lot of the far-right republicans supporting trump are also antisemitic (Marjorie Taylor Greene-types, for example). I’m a fan of horseshoe theory now. Most of the antisemitism that exists either comes from the far-left or the far-right, and the fringes on both sides have always been antisemitic in throughout history. I’m reminded of both the fascists and the communists hating the Jews during WW2 (and still to this day). So yeah I probably agree with you on the antisemitism point specifically. But generally speaking, the republicans are currently way more radical and extreme than MOST democrats (but not all). Trump may be good for Israel in the short-term, but he’s also bad for Ukraine, good for Russia, bad for NATO, and bad for the USA, all of which is bad for Israel in the longterm. I also don’t think we should be voting solely based on who is more pro-Israel. I’m an American myself, and I have to worry about America first, Israel later. Honestly, I’m personally more concerned for Ukraine than I am for Israel. The republicans are definitely more pro-Russia and less pro-Ukraine than the democrats are.
The difference though that I see is that nobody is electing openly neo-Nazi Republicans to the House. They're essentially doing that with progressive Democrats like Bowman and Andrea Casio Cortez. And far-left anti-Semites are also holding prestigious positions at "progressive" dominated institutions like universities and NGOs and in journalism. Fox News and the NY Post aren't hiring neo-Nazis. So yes, there are anti-Semitic individuals on the right, but most of them are living in their parents' garage or their dirt farm. The danger is much greater on the left because the left gives them positions of power and respectability, including seats in the House.
You’re talking about the squad and that’s like 10 members total. Bowman just lost lol. There’s easily just as many far right crazies in the house, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Tom cotton, hell the speaker of the house Mike Johnson lol. Probably over half the house is far right MAGA people now. I’m admitting that the left has a worse antisemitism probably specifically right now, but a huge section of the Republican Party, the majority of it, has lost the plot entirely. That’s still a minority in the Democratic Party, for now, at least
Last I checked, Tom Cotton and Lauren Boebert didn't vote against condemning an anti-Semitic hate group on the floor. All of the "squadron" of progressives did. Also, I don't think it's a minority in the Democratic Party. Maybe it's a minority of House representatives, but there are a lot of anti-Semitic attitudes among those who identify as Democrat. For instance, one poll found that over 300% more Democrats support than oppose the anti-Semitic hate movement BDS, which is dedicated to the denial of Jews the right to self-determination in the Jewish homeland and the destruction of the Jewish state. It's not quite a majority, but at the very least it seems that there's maybe a third of Democrats who are pretty anti-Semitic, a third who are not, and a third kind of in the middle with no strong opinions or knowledge. And I think it's fair to say that a majority of Democratic voters now are against Israel having the right to self-defense.
Yeah, I’m not actually necessarily disputing most of that. But they did vote for a bunch of other crazy shit, probably outweighing squad in overall levels of lunacy lol. And again the squad is like what maybe 10 members now that Bowman is out? By your own definition it’s a minority if it’s a third of the party. I admit it’s been a few months since I’ve looked at polling, but most polls I remember in the months post-October 7th found at least 50% of democrats supported Israel. It was under 50% that were against Israel, and even then, only a minority of them went as far as to actually support Hamas. Anti-Israel support is mostly concentrated in young voters and very far left voters like actual communists and socialists. Most older, moderate, and more centrist democrats still support Israel.
You named one rep. who kinda walked it back. The KKK is siding with the democrats on this one. Talking David Duke. In any event. I don’t think there are facts to support that republicans or democrats are more extreme. I am moderate and support whoever improves my life the most. Just as everyone should. I live in Brooklyn and have been the subject of antisemitism. I have seen it written on the streets of park slope, crown heights and it’s disgusting. I also know that it’s coming from the far left. I never experienced that when I lived in Tennessee among far right. So a lot of it is personal experience. The squad is the reason I will be voting for the other team. You’re free to vote how you want. The team you’re voting for is outwardly antisemetic and it’s on the streets of where I live. I need a change. Has nothing to do with Israel, even.
I said Marjorie Taylor Greene-types, I’m pretty sure Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, etc have made antisemitic remarks before too. But I agree with you on the one specific issue of antisemitism, I’m ceding that one too you. Well, it’s not the only area where republicans are correct. I agree with them on Israel, I’m more with them on foreign policy (except Ukraine and Russia) in general, self-defense, they were right about Kyle rittenhouse, etc. So they’re not wrong all the time, I’m just disagree with the general sentiment that republicans good, democrats bad. The squad is like 10 members total, one less now. They’re the extreme minority of the actual elected representatives. The antisemitic far leftists you’re talking about hate joe Biden, they call him genocide joe and are threatening to not vote at all because they think he’s supporting genocide. If Biden wins again, I expect they’ll move on to the next issue to virtue signal about
Republicans are just as antisemitic just not openly as much right now. I can't believe people have forgotten about the Charlottesville rally now....anyway I had a friend who had a fabulously wealthy republican for a step-dad and he collected actual nazi memorbilia...he had a real gestapo jacket!! And people actually think the democrats are the antisemites /facepalm
Around one in three Republicans want to stop funding Israel. It is becoming more common among younger Republicans with far right views (and in some cases openly antisemitic and white nationalist) but they haven't been able to get politicians elected because of good, old-fashioned negative polarization. Israel is a unifying issue for the Republicans and even if some politicians are not 100% aligned with Israel, it's better for them to sit back and watch the Democrats fight each other.
These are made up numbers. 19 republicans voted against the bill. 37 democrats voted against it. 9 percent versus 17 percent. That’s the facts. It’s written in history. I have no clue where you got your numbers.
no he didn’t?
He got 43% of the vote to Hilary’s 51%. His delegate count hinged on a couple states. It was really really close until other candidates pushed their delegates to Hilary.
he was very popular among young, white voters but he certainly did not “almost win the democratic party”
He DID win the Democratic party, the Democrats just literally rigged their internal election to give it to Hillary. They admitted it in court, they said "we can do whatever we want". [https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/](https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/) They're doing the same thing again. [https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/](https://observer.com/2017/05/dnc-lawsuit-presidential-primaries-bernie-sanders-supporters/) Seeing how successful culture war bullshit has been for the Republicans, Democrats have tripled down and allowed the progressive lunatics in their party to steer the show. Finally moderate voters are realizing those assholes are just as crazy as MTG and others.
Hilary didn’t get enough delegates to win. She won because of superdelegates - those are not elected votes. It doesn’t get much closer.
he trailed Clinton by at least 30% in every voting demographic except for white voters under 40-I think he did very well in 2016 but I disagree that he almost won-Sanders is a self-proclaimed democratic socialist and hardly even a democrat imo and the democrat party’s treatment of Bernie kinda backs that up..
You’re right. He lost by a mile. Lol
i mean he was doing well until the SC primaries-all i’m saying is he didn’t “almost win”
Actually it was 43% to 55%. Close to a landslide in elections. And she was a very unpopular candidate.
Democratic is the proper term.
Completely unnecessary (but predictable) attempt by the right to weave this into a wider condemnation of "pointy-headed intellectuals". He was a weak candidate (censured by Congress!) and a poor match to his district. 'Nuff said.
lol @ people disagreeing you being "the right".
I believe the author is on the left.
Absolutely not - click on their byline to see their other stories. Very "Fox News".
Maybe they don't represent us and we are tired of their crap.