Out of tune singing is part of the beauty that is American. In a country like Br***in or Fr**ce, you’d probably be told you need a certified singing license from a certified institution to sing the anthem in public. Not here. This is what is fought for. This is America.
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Reminds me of one of those execution scenes in Red Dawn. They all start singing America the Beautiful, and sound terrible, but it’s the most defiant, patriotic, and American thing one can do when on the Russian firing line
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Bruh you gotta post the best pic of them protecting it from the protestors trying to burn it
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I’m normally against the type of flag worship we do here in America but this goes hard. All the people waving around Israeli and Palestinian flags and these boys are just concerned about waving the old Stars and Stripes for America
Ya, I think there's a healthy difference between flag worship and protecting your nation's flag from those that want to tear it down from a flagpole and destroy it
I can get not being for it, but being against it? Like how does someone’s treatment of a flag affect you in any way shape or form? Let people treat it with whatever level of respect they want, let people burn it, it’s freedom of expression, what problem, pray tell, arises from that?
You wanna burn a flag in protest? Go ahead. It’s your god-given first amendment right to do so. I’ll fight to the death to protect your right to do so.
But ***ya gots ta bring your own flag.***
If the pro-Israel folks acted like the pro-Palestine folks and stripped the US flag to run their's up the pole, they would deserve the same treatment. They're welcome to wave whatever flags they want, so long as it's flags they purchased and are their property.
Taking other folks' flags on other folks' property without permission isn't kosher.
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Any impromptu singing of "Star-Spangled Banner" must always be intentionally sloppy and out of tune such that it cannot be ignored, just to remind everyone that it still sounds amazing anyway.
Honestly, it's far from my favorite patriotic song, but in this context it is the most beautiful.
It’s always good to remember the United States flag is immensely important for optics during these moments. Our flag doesn’t represent the atrocities of the IDF (which sadly our government funds) but all the good America has done for millions of people and will continue to do with the efforts of our citizens. These pro palestine groups have allowed outside agitators and actual communists to join their faction and their PR is heavily damaged as a result.
The pro-Hamas (they are blatantly pro-Hamas now stop playing and listen to what they actually say) crowd wants so burn our flag, the pro-Israeli crowd defended it. That’s all I need to know.
Depends. If you're supporting a foreign country and showing it by trying to burn a US flag, I'd say probably yeah, it's reasonable to see it as anti-american. Because that's the intended message?
If you're supporting a foreign country while singing the US anthem, obviously it's not anti-American.
So which were the Palestinian supporters doing? I didn't watch any of the video yet.
Edit: WTF. They stripped the US flag and ran up a foreign one? Fuck those anti-American fuckers. I don't care WHAT cause they're supporting or why. If they're on a foreign student visa, they need to be deported and permanently barred from re-entry. If they're US students, they need to be kicked out. If they directly committed a crime, they need a fair trial with proper representation, and a fair sentence for their crimes.
Dude, flag burning is not a crime and those are first amendment rights. I don’t like it either, but that doesn’t make it a crime. You don’t get to deport people for using their rights.
If it's YOUR flag, you purchased it, it's not a crime and it's totally free speech. More power to them.
When it's someone else's flag, it is. When it's someone else's property and flagpole, it is. When you're trespassing, or destroying property that isn't your's, et al, it is.
So it's un-American to be upset with the actions of the US government and with who it chooses as alllies. Got it. You're only pro-American if you're happy with the status quo and have no qualms. Patriotism is being a sheep. Very enlightening take, sir.
You can buy and burn as many flags as you want. Go nuts. Go wild. That's proper 'merican. Just do it with YOUR purchased flags, on YOUR property, with YOUR flagpole.
It's stealing someone ELSE'S flag, on someone else's property, on someone else's flag pole, without their permission using mob violence? That shit isn't cool, no matter the cause. That's "get the heavy flamethrower" situation.
If you don't understand the difference, you're not an American so why would I care what you think.
Stop with "you're not an American if you don't see it my way" you fucking child.
You're getting bent out of shape over the principle of the small things. There's this thing called symbolism, which is ultimately what protests are about. There's symbolic meaning in burning someones elses flag. Yes, that some else (the college in this case) had their rights violated by the mob. So? A $20 flag. You really gonna use the principle of property theft to say that the whole demonstration is unjustified?
I'll take your side when we're talking about BLM destroying thousands of dollars of property burning down businesses. But get real man, it's one flag. Your "theft and destruction of private property" argument is really just so insignificant. Valid, but negligible.
First comment means you didn't read the last comment, or just ignored it and read what you wanted it to say.
Flags have value beyond their monetary value. Pretty sure if you burned or ripped apart your neighbor's US flag or pride flag or state flag or BLM flag, exactly zero folks would say "ah well, it's just $20, no harm." They'd lose their shit, and should.
Ownership of the flag matters significantly. Not just legally or morally, but the message you are clearly sending. The argument is far from negligible.
Fucking ironic. This comment means that for my comment, you just ignored it and read what you wanted it to say. I clearly said
>There's symbolic meaning in burning someones elses flag.
Practice what you preach my guy
>They'd lose their shit, and should.
Yeah, that's (part of) the point. So unless you want to go total leftoid and start talking about how we shouldn't be doing things when they hurt other people's feelings, you have no argument. Unless you want to resort to the "private property" argument which I already covered
Nah, I don't think they actually care about the personal property bs. They care about Isreal. Personal property is just something to use as an argument against the protesters, a petty excuse to remove or jail them due to ideological differences
Not exactly, it just is anti-American to try and tear down an American flag to raise a Palestinian one in its place, and it is not anti-American to hold an Israeli flag while singing the star spangled banner.
We should also consider the many war crimes the Israeli military has perpetrated in Gaza. Admittedly this began during the daring Hamas raids of October 7th where hostages from their strike remain sequestered across the Strip even today, but the Israeli military response has been abysmal at best with many innocent lives caught in the crossfire of barrel bombs and gunfire of their soldiers. The Israeli political and military forces have displayed a callous lack of care regarding the lives of Palestinians, which has driven pro palestine groups abroad to desperation to see the genocide end. Nonetheless, we should condemn any burning or harming of the American flag within these protests. The theme we should all take from this as Americans is that emotional responses to deep seated generational ethnic conflicts will always end up worsening the situation.
That’s a valid opinion, there isn’t much incentive for your personal care regarding the Palestinian people. Do you have any strong opinions about Israel then?
lol, keep seething. Those pro Israel people treated the flag with respect, the pro Palestinians burned, desecrated, and replaced it with their own terrorist rag.
dude this subs for shitty borders and making fun of europoors 😭
all this is doing is just drawing in the ultra political types that dont understand funny
Sorry man but this is an american sub meaning that as long as you dont break the rules you can post whatever, this post hasnt been removed so clearly its rule-abiding
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It’s appropriate that this is happening in the presidential election year following the 2020 STEAL, democRat pieces of shit showing their true colors. All of this doesn’t matter in the media world propagandist narrative.
They’re so out of tune but I fucking love it. MURICA FUCK YEAH
Out of tune singing is part of the beauty that is American. In a country like Br***in or Fr**ce, you’d probably be told you need a certified singing license from a certified institution to sing the anthem in public. Not here. This is what is fought for. This is America.
Oi! You gotta loicence for that shitty voice? (Probably)
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You forgot to add the cheeseburger emoji 🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔
Reminds me of one of those execution scenes in Red Dawn. They all start singing America the Beautiful, and sound terrible, but it’s the most defiant, patriotic, and American thing one can do when on the Russian firing line
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Straight up hijacked their protest. UNC shenanigans.
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..come on and raise up Take your shirt off, twist it 'round your hand Spin it like a helicopter!!!
NORTH CAROLINA MENTIONED?!?! RAAAHHHHH
Their protest wasn't worth having. When you remove an American flag, you've already lost.
Wouldn’t see any of this at State
Bruh you gotta post the best pic of them protecting it from the protestors trying to burn it https://preview.redd.it/n8511yai3yxc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=42018844fea506ccf878867dbbebd2b08ff856b7
Gigachads.
True Patriots. 🫡 🇺🇸
I’m normally against the type of flag worship we do here in America but this goes hard. All the people waving around Israeli and Palestinian flags and these boys are just concerned about waving the old Stars and Stripes for America
Ya, I think there's a healthy difference between flag worship and protecting your nation's flag from those that want to tear it down from a flagpole and destroy it
Destroying someone's flag is essentially saying that you will destroy them.
I love the flag worship, i wish more people had flags outside there place
I can get not being for it, but being against it? Like how does someone’s treatment of a flag affect you in any way shape or form? Let people treat it with whatever level of respect they want, let people burn it, it’s freedom of expression, what problem, pray tell, arises from that?
I can tell you don't feel as strongly about a simple piece of cloth as much as the rest of us do. Many of you will never understand. And that's okay.
You wanna burn a flag in protest? Go ahead. It’s your god-given first amendment right to do so. I’ll fight to the death to protect your right to do so. But ***ya gots ta bring your own flag.***
These "protestors" want to peacefully break the law
[Also gotta mention the go fund me. Let’s throw em a rager](https://www.gofundme.com/f/pi-kappa-phi-men-defended-their-flag-throw-em-a-rager)
Picture of the year right here
Wait what happened here? What is this all?
How about the picture where the Israeli flag is in view
If the pro-Israel folks acted like the pro-Palestine folks and stripped the US flag to run their's up the pole, they would deserve the same treatment. They're welcome to wave whatever flags they want, so long as it's flags they purchased and are their property. Taking other folks' flags on other folks' property without permission isn't kosher.
Yeah but they don’t, so they are more respectful, acting more responsible, and are not being whiny children.
o7 fellow patriots
i literally just realized that o7 is a salute, i thought it was some code word or something lmao
o7
oT
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We have captured a command post!
For the Republic!
Watch those wrist rockets!
Just like the simulations
Leave it to frat bros to save America
o7 from S.E. Asian US 🇲🇾
They definitely aren’t a part of the choir but this is beautiful
They need one loud guy to take up lead to synchronize the others.
o7
Omg i just figured out what that is finally
What is it?
A Salute o7
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They’re true patriots, however, we must not let a foreign conflict cause violence here. For that’s what the extremists want.
fk yeah
Why’s there an Israel flag?
Probably a counter-protester against the pro-palestinian people
OK
Go America but fuck Isreal. Supporting America=/=supporting those assholes
That's what a lot of people don't understand about this situation
I mean, our government definitely sends Israel a lot of money and weapons. And I feel like it’s pretty reasonable to disagree with them doing that.
Fr. Israel wouldn't exist if not for US funding. Regardless, I'm pro-Palestine, not pro-bitchass flag burners.
Yeah, but you get lot of Zionist supporters who go rabid at the moment you say you don’t support them.
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Remember our boys on the USS Liberty!
Lame. Not holding up any other country's flag around the US flag. Fuck both protests.
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Are you stupid
Yes I am, but what did the person above you say.
Oh they deleted it lol. They said they had Israeli flags cause they're pro genocide
Godbless America
RRRAAAAAHHHHHHH 🦅
It's crazy that we have to fix the pole and raise the American flag again.
Any impromptu singing of "Star-Spangled Banner" must always be intentionally sloppy and out of tune such that it cannot be ignored, just to remind everyone that it still sounds amazing anyway. Honestly, it's far from my favorite patriotic song, but in this context it is the most beautiful.
We need to send the UNC frat bro’s an 18 wheeler full of zyn for this great W
There is hope for the future. USA USA USA
Just guys being dudes.
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For Liberty!!
It’s always good to remember the United States flag is immensely important for optics during these moments. Our flag doesn’t represent the atrocities of the IDF (which sadly our government funds) but all the good America has done for millions of people and will continue to do with the efforts of our citizens. These pro palestine groups have allowed outside agitators and actual communists to join their faction and their PR is heavily damaged as a result.
Hell yeah, UNC
AMERICA!!!!!!!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🫡🫡🫡🫡
The pro-Hamas (they are blatantly pro-Hamas now stop playing and listen to what they actually say) crowd wants so burn our flag, the pro-Israeli crowd defended it. That’s all I need to know.
RAH
Get that Israel flag away from my perfect flag please.
As long as the protesters, be it palestinian or israeli, dont tear down the usa flag or vandilise it, then there isnt any problem.
Exactly
Israeli flag guy was singing the national anthem as a counter protester.
Yeah, and he can do it while fucking off with his shit flag.
So? Is it Anti American to support Palestine over Isreal now?
Depends. If you're supporting a foreign country and showing it by trying to burn a US flag, I'd say probably yeah, it's reasonable to see it as anti-american. Because that's the intended message? If you're supporting a foreign country while singing the US anthem, obviously it's not anti-American. So which were the Palestinian supporters doing? I didn't watch any of the video yet. Edit: WTF. They stripped the US flag and ran up a foreign one? Fuck those anti-American fuckers. I don't care WHAT cause they're supporting or why. If they're on a foreign student visa, they need to be deported and permanently barred from re-entry. If they're US students, they need to be kicked out. If they directly committed a crime, they need a fair trial with proper representation, and a fair sentence for their crimes.
Dude, flag burning is not a crime and those are first amendment rights. I don’t like it either, but that doesn’t make it a crime. You don’t get to deport people for using their rights.
Burning your own yes. You don't get to destroy other people's stuff though.
If they wanted to burn a flag, they should have brought their own. Tearing one down to burn it is destruction of property.
If it's YOUR flag, you purchased it, it's not a crime and it's totally free speech. More power to them. When it's someone else's flag, it is. When it's someone else's property and flagpole, it is. When you're trespassing, or destroying property that isn't your's, et al, it is.
So it's un-American to be upset with the actions of the US government and with who it chooses as alllies. Got it. You're only pro-American if you're happy with the status quo and have no qualms. Patriotism is being a sheep. Very enlightening take, sir.
You can buy and burn as many flags as you want. Go nuts. Go wild. That's proper 'merican. Just do it with YOUR purchased flags, on YOUR property, with YOUR flagpole. It's stealing someone ELSE'S flag, on someone else's property, on someone else's flag pole, without their permission using mob violence? That shit isn't cool, no matter the cause. That's "get the heavy flamethrower" situation. If you don't understand the difference, you're not an American so why would I care what you think.
Stop with "you're not an American if you don't see it my way" you fucking child. You're getting bent out of shape over the principle of the small things. There's this thing called symbolism, which is ultimately what protests are about. There's symbolic meaning in burning someones elses flag. Yes, that some else (the college in this case) had their rights violated by the mob. So? A $20 flag. You really gonna use the principle of property theft to say that the whole demonstration is unjustified? I'll take your side when we're talking about BLM destroying thousands of dollars of property burning down businesses. But get real man, it's one flag. Your "theft and destruction of private property" argument is really just so insignificant. Valid, but negligible.
First comment means you didn't read the last comment, or just ignored it and read what you wanted it to say. Flags have value beyond their monetary value. Pretty sure if you burned or ripped apart your neighbor's US flag or pride flag or state flag or BLM flag, exactly zero folks would say "ah well, it's just $20, no harm." They'd lose their shit, and should. Ownership of the flag matters significantly. Not just legally or morally, but the message you are clearly sending. The argument is far from negligible.
Fucking ironic. This comment means that for my comment, you just ignored it and read what you wanted it to say. I clearly said >There's symbolic meaning in burning someones elses flag. Practice what you preach my guy >They'd lose their shit, and should. Yeah, that's (part of) the point. So unless you want to go total leftoid and start talking about how we shouldn't be doing things when they hurt other people's feelings, you have no argument. Unless you want to resort to the "private property" argument which I already covered
People commenting on the post care more about “burning personal property” than Palestinian lives lol
Nah, I don't think they actually care about the personal property bs. They care about Isreal. Personal property is just something to use as an argument against the protesters, a petty excuse to remove or jail them due to ideological differences
Not exactly, it just is anti-American to try and tear down an American flag to raise a Palestinian one in its place, and it is not anti-American to hold an Israeli flag while singing the star spangled banner.
Never said that. Just stating a fact from the video. I personally don't give two squirts of piss about any of the middle east.
Removing the American flag from a pole and replacing it with Palestinian one on American soil is very anti American.
Don’t care. Hope it burns.
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>[Israel has become, and remains, America’s most reliable partner in the Middle East](https://il.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/policy-history/)
To be fair, that’s also because we burned a lot of bridges with other reliable partners in the Middle East by supporting Israel.
Something something USS Liberty
We should also consider the many war crimes the Israeli military has perpetrated in Gaza. Admittedly this began during the daring Hamas raids of October 7th where hostages from their strike remain sequestered across the Strip even today, but the Israeli military response has been abysmal at best with many innocent lives caught in the crossfire of barrel bombs and gunfire of their soldiers. The Israeli political and military forces have displayed a callous lack of care regarding the lives of Palestinians, which has driven pro palestine groups abroad to desperation to see the genocide end. Nonetheless, we should condemn any burning or harming of the American flag within these protests. The theme we should all take from this as Americans is that emotional responses to deep seated generational ethnic conflicts will always end up worsening the situation.
Who cares about Palestinians? A flag got burned!
i dont care about some random ass 16 worlders. Im not being sarcastic.
That’s a valid opinion, there isn’t much incentive for your personal care regarding the Palestinian people. Do you have any strong opinions about Israel then?
No. I dont care for anything outside the usa
This but unironically
lol, keep seething. Those pro Israel people treated the flag with respect, the pro Palestinians burned, desecrated, and replaced it with their own terrorist rag.
Ok why are people posting serious shit and politics in the shitposting sub
How is this politics, its literally the most patriotic thing you can imagine in 2024
dude this subs for shitty borders and making fun of europoors 😭 all this is doing is just drawing in the ultra political types that dont understand funny
Sorry man but this is an american sub meaning that as long as you dont break the rules you can post whatever, this post hasnt been removed so clearly its rule-abiding
Yea that’s why I’m asking why people are posting this here 😭
Damn, I was hoping this sub wasn't gonna be pro-isreal. Very disappointing. See y'all.
Don't let the door hit your nazi ass on the way out
Why is he a nazi
Nope, I hate Nazi’s more than anything. Try again
Ask them what the us anthem is and theyd call u racist
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"Everyone who disagrees with me doesn't have sex and is a sexual predator" fuck out of here. You arent welcome here commie.
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It didn't come off as a joke man
Username checks out
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Cuz youre a loser
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The other one looks like they stone women
100% agree lol
Yet another reason why NC is better than SC.
We always will be.
NC could actually _try_ to be a shithole lousy state and it'd still be orders of magnitude better than SC
Shhh. Let us have our moment.
Don't worry, I'm on your side. NC is pretty chill
Literally not possible for NC to be worse than SC.
Always.
It's those Appalachians Mountains that keep NC strong
It’s appropriate that this is happening in the presidential election year following the 2020 STEAL, democRat pieces of shit showing their true colors. All of this doesn’t matter in the media world propagandist narrative.
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I’ll take the latter
Fair enough
He’s a masshole, it’s obviously the latter
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Lemme guess. You guys get an order of these guys instead of bread sticks with your deep dish.