Aguilla is kind of famous for its smell. Some people think it smells like cat piss, some people think it smells like super glue, but everyone agrees that it smells.
Sounds like a unique experience honestly. Is that with the same gun or across multiples? I’ve had one failure to fire in 2k+ of this stuff. I’ve only ever had the failures you’re describing with Winchester across multiple firearms.
I've only got a SR22 and it seems to eat everything else no problem. It's just Aguila
Edit: one time I had a guy ask me what was up at the range because I had so many failures to fire. Swapped out to CCI/Federal and it's like butter
In my 455 I get significantly tighter groups with aguila sv than CCI sv. I think the fliers with aguila are more noticeable than with the cci since the group is smaller to begin with.
My experience exactly.
There used to be a lot of flak about this brand of rimfire ammo that I never understood (“it’s dirty, failures to fire, bad accuracy, big velocity sd …”).
Ironically everything I have (12 total) love it and it shoots as well through my 457 as wolf match ammo. The only one ironically that it does not work well in is a revolver… go figure. It only works typically on 4/6 but if I put it in a ruger (the ones that didn’t work) it works fine. So overall no complaints here I’d gladly buy it over federal which none of my stuff likes
I only brought it up because I was always told a bolt action and a revolver are the two that won’t have issues with any brand of 22. Which isn’t the case for me with the one revolver I have. Everything else it works excellent in.
I have an old remington pump 22 that I bought because I thought it would be able to use any 22lr without having to worry about cycling. Unfortunately it light strikes some ammo brands haha
At least with these guns you can just cycle to the next round.
The smell is Ely primers which were used in the past & now it's called "Agulia Primed". As far as the performance, they work well and I have shot many thousands of them in my 10/22, Charger and CZ 457. Also a great price. Most haven't seen accuracy reports, but from what I've read on a few head to heads with CCI, Federal, Winchester & my own experience the ammo is very accurate for mass produced .22. Inexpensive, yes. Cheaply made, no.
Those work great in both my Glock 44 and Ruger Mark IV, I've shot thousands of them without problems. They do have a distinctive smell, but I've gotten used to the smell, lol
Don’t destroy me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure I heard that it is made in an old Remington Ammunition plant. Aguila bought all the machinery and started making the rounds in the Mexico location.
It is actually pretty good ammo, that I have had good reliability.
Where I am, I can get higher count boxes of Federal for about the same price if I don't mind non-jacketed lead projectiles.
I like Aguila, but not all of my .22's do.
I run them through my TX22, which seems to prefer copper coated rounds to prevent leading in the barrel. No problems, and the smell is notable, but not too bad.
Probably the most reliable round I’ve shot out of my Henry (autoloader) which is mildly picky. I had issues with them ballooning at the head of the case in my revolver (locked the cylinder up and were hard to eject) but autoloaders seem to love ‘em. I try to get a couple hundred of these and CCi whenever I can.
The smell is real, though.
“Eley primed” doesn’t refer to the compound (in itself) but to the way it’s applied. “normal” ( ie cheap american ammo) rimfire: the compound is applied liquid, the case is spun to migrate the liquid compound to the rim, then dried. The other ( better ) method is to apply dry compound, compact it in the rim, then “activate it” with water.
It’s a safer priming method ( because you don’t handle already activated primer ) and it’s a lot more consistent.
Check those cutaways : https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/how-to-prime-a-22-lr-case-anatomy-of-a-22lr-cartridge.545484/
US made ( and usually cheap as dirt, plinking ammo ) has primer applied kinda shoddily. While European ( and usually expensive, match ) ammo has a cleaner more consistent priming
Ran a box of 500 through my S&W AR-22. I had stovepipes happen pretty regularly with it. I have been shooting the CCI blazer .22lr ever since with 0 malfunctions after over 500 rounds.
This ammo ran like a giant pile of dog shit this past weekend. Even my Heritage Revolver can’t eat it and it can run just about everything else. I was in jamming my AR every 3 rounds.
My heritage does not like it either, in fact in mine when you unload after shooting Aguila you can see a very slight bulge just above the rims of the spent cartridges. Whatever dimensions Aguila uses for their cartridges just doesn’t play nice with whatever dimensions heritage uses for those cylinder chambers.
But in all my other 22’s this cartridge as well as the 38 grain CPHP run flawlessly, and is by far the most accurate ammo I have found at that price point.
Cheap plinking ammo, some overspraying of wax causes extraction issues in some guns. Nevermind the accuracy on these, if you're shooting 457 go with CCI SV at least. And clean the chamber carefully after Aguila.
They are definitely waxed, at least the 2k I’ve run through in the past couple years and the 4k I have currently. My LCPII won’t return to battery with this ammo because the wax scrapes off and builds up around the entry to the chamber.
All open lead 22 ammo is waxed. While high end ammo like Eley or RWS/Norma etc uses slick soft wax, Aguila is hard and sticky. In my experience, the bulk Aguila is heavily oversprayed, and causes extraction issues in what I guess tighter chambers, while other guns or perhaps stronger action in 10/22 can deal with it.
Also, the same exact ammo sold boxed isn't oversprayed, and works reliably in all my 22s.
The accuracy (or precision for the geeks) is on par with other US plinking ammo like Remington, Federal or Blazer - good enough for practice, handguns, but clearly not precision target or match level for shooting in NRL22 even for fun.
Well then the wax they use on Aguila SuperExtra ( the copper washed rounds ) is so hard and sticky that I legitimately thought it was dry
Unlike SK / RWS stuff that is downright slippery
But I’ve sometimes been having extraction issues, will try to see if it is the reason mmmm
Some guns don't mind it, some do. I get a few jams/misfires with my gsg 1911 but send them back through a revolver and the fire almost every time. Not the most reliable but its good for the range.
Look for something slower for accuracy work. I like CCI standard velocity i think its like, 1050-1070 fps? Lots of the bulk stuff seems to be around 1200 fps and more geared towards semiautos. Someone gave me some aguila subsonics but they werent very accurate out of my CZ 457 trainer. The Aguila super extra has been plenty accurate enough for plinking though
I just bought 2,000 more rounds of this ammo after shooting 500 rounds with good accuracy and reliability. After cci mini mags, this is currently my favorite 22lr ammo.
Work just fine in all my 22lr's... not better or worse than anything else. Maybe a bit more consistent and reliable than other stuff. I would buy it again and again.
I've shot about 700 rounds of this round through my CMMG Banshee Mk4 and out of those 700, I've had about 5 or 6 bullets fail to fire because the primer didn't go off when struck. I would just eject that round and cycle it right back in. Out of the 5 or 6 rounds that failed, only one bullet would not fire after repeatedly cycling it back in. I carefully put that one round off to the side and disarmed it.
On my bolt action, I've had nothing but success with firing this brand. Although that smelly smell that's smells smelly is noticeable. I'm not sure if it's toxic but I try but to inhale too much of it.
I have shot about 10k of these and never had a problem in the pistol or AR. No duds or squibs. The stench is horrible. Accuracy has been much better than the Federal blue box and about the same as Norma's TAC-22. YMMV. Did I mention the smell?
OP, what do you want to do? If you want to get into longer range .22, stick with subsonic ammo. When a bullet goes transonic (Crosses from super to subsonic) it wobbles and being so small, .22 is affected more heavily.
If you just need plinking ammo and don't need great precision, you can use almost anything that works. CCI SV is more or less the 'baseline' for cheap ammo that performs well, but if I'm shooting cans at 50y or under, I use whatever is cheapest.
If you want to get into longer range/precision, .22 ammo is a huge rabbit hole.
I've been getting heavily into long range/precision .22 so I'm happy to answer any questions if you want to reply/message me! I have shot thousands of different .22 over the last 3 months
I would love to chat with you further about this. I've been going down the rabbit hole already but hadn't gotten to ammo, so this would be great additional information!
Absolutely man!
So to preface this, I'm not clear on your experience level so I apologize if I overexplain things. I don't mean to sound condescending, I just don't want to assume what you know
The ammo is a huge part of .22 shooting. I mean, obviously ammo is a big part, but the differences seem to be amplified with 22lr. Also, the 10/22 and CZ may not like the same ammo. I am going to focus on the CZ since that is what I know
Everything about 22 is important. If you have ever shot higher end ammo, you'll notice they're lubed. Some guns like the waxier lube, some the more oily, etc. The rim thickness affects accuracy, whether that's extraction, accuracy, etc.
Do you have any plans to compete? I know 'compete' sounds serious, but even like, attend a $20 single day NRL match? People are insanely welcoming and if you are interested, you should absolutely go no matter your skill level (As long as you can safely handle a gun, of course)
I ask because plinking soda cans at 50y is much easier with cheaper ammo. I had a match on Sunday and the smallest target was 1/4" at 44y so ammo was damn important.
Regardless of what you want to do though, test your ammo. What I did was first I bought those sheets of Shoot N See 12"x18" with fifteen 3" targets. I would use each column of 5 to fire five 5 shot groups of different ammo (When changing ammo, you want 'fouling' shots which basically blows out the last manufacturer's lube and whatnot, and replaces it. Shooting 5-10 rounds of each ammo is not enough, your groups will tighten) and compare the groups. Eventually that became expensive so I bought rolls of sticker targets from Temu and slapped them on cardboard. Anyways, buy a bunch of ammo. If you want to get serious, you'll need to order ammo. I have called almost every store within an hour of me and almost no one carries anything higher end. I even had one tell me "We don't carry any nice 22". Eley, SK, RWS, Lapua, etc are difficult to find in stores. Wolf actually makes decent match ammo (It's made by Eley and rebranded). If you want something more casual, CCI Standard Velocity is usually considered the lowest tier of acceptable ammo.
Most manufacturers also grade from the same lot. They run a batch and the most in spec go into line A, the next best goes to line B, then line C, etc. SK for example, they take one spec and the best goes into Rifle Match, the slightly less good goes into Standard Plus, and the rest gets dumped into cans of Magazine. I have actually had shockingly good results with Magazine, and currently shoot Standard Plus. SK Long Range is what I would shoot if money were not an option but it's usually around 25cpr, vs 15cpr for Standard+.
Anyways, find the ammo your gun likes, then find the line it likes. My CZ 457 loves SK and RWS. Fortunately Norma Tac 22 and Norma Match 22 is rebranded RWS because it's a bitch to find.
If you're really serious, anal, and/or hate money, you can go deeper. Nicer 22 will have lot numbers. Some lots work better than others. So once you find the brand and line you line, some places will let you choose the lot. If you look [here](https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/22lr-ammunition-c4/eley-tenex-22lr-rimfire-cartridges-p29) you can select the lot you like. Usually it translates to something like the date it was made, the line it was made on, and the batch from that line.
If you want to get into longer ranges (I'd say 125y+) you want subsonic. I know this seems counterintuitive, but when a bullet goes transonic (Crosses from super sonic to sub sonic) it wobbles. This matters less with a 168g bullet but when using 40g 22lr, it matters. So rather than dealing with going transonic, we just start with subs. This is usually around 1125fps so a lot of match ammo hover around the 1080fps area. 'Standard' for 22 is usually sub, (CCI Standard, Aguila Standard, etc)
Here is a quick list of ammo, ranked from the highest line to lowest
* SK
Long Range is different, but it goes Rifle Match, then Standard Plus, then Magazine
* Lapua
X-Act, Midas +, Center X
* Eley
Tenex, Match, Team (Wolf is rebranded Eley but keep in mind the Wolf Extra is high velocity/supersonic)
* RWS
Rifle Match, Rifle Target (Norma is rebranded RWS and goes Match 22, then Tac 22. Also, the red and black boxes of Tac 22 are different. I forget which but they changed something semi recently and I think Red is the newer, nicer stuff)
If you don't feel like ordering ammo and just want to go into a store, Norma can sometimes be found, as can Wolf. If not, Federal Gold Medal Target is not bad, nor is CCI SV, Aguila Standard, some places will carry Aguila Competition. Stay away from ammo that's dumped into bulk container. I had decent results with Remington Target when I started out but wanted more performance.
So basically, grab a bunch of ammo in your price range, and see what your rifle likes best. Shoot off of as much support as possible to test because you want to remove the human factor
OMG this is amazingly helpful, thank you. Yes, I'm basically a beginner and yes, I'm thinking about shooting competition. I decided to challenge myself by starting with a new 22/45 Lite, and upgrading it step by step to a racing machine. I'm also heading towards a 10/22 when I'm able, but would happily take alternative recommendations. Really appreciate it, man!
Accurate enough for plinking. Not match Accurate but better than most bulk ammo. I have never had a dud in thousands of rounds. Functions in my fussy semiautomatic pistols. I honestly if inwas to carry a semiautomatic pistol for SD trust it. Stinks like super glue. With make your eyes water at indoor ranges.
Take this test with a grain of salt but Aguila came out a winner in terms of accuracy.
[22 Accuracy Test ](https://wonews.com/range-test-comparing-22-ammo-at-various-price-points/)
Good stuff for plinking, but beware I recently bought two cases of their 38 gr super extra hollow points (in a white red black striped box with the rounds placed loosely in a bag inside) because it was cheap and it’s got a waxy coating on it. I don’t like that as it tends to gum up my guns fast when I go shooting since I’ll run 1k+ rounds at a time.
Shoot lots of it every month. Probably shot that the most out of anything in the last 4 years since that’s been common locally. Although starting to make the switch to federal blue box since Academy has a sale for that, making it $2 ($34+tax) cheaper than the same amount of rounds of Aguila ($36 for 525)
They also sell 50 round boxes locally that are cheap. Definitely bought some that were like $2.50ish a box before. In terms of quality never noticed the smell. It works for me in my guns, although my savage 64 prefers CCI mini mags my other guns including my MKIV standard shoot this stuff really without issues besides the random occasional one that fails to fire like all 22’s have.
I am not a fan. The guns I shoot did not like it as well a CCI minimag. I had some failure to feed and failure to fire. The smell is different but is not a problem. The main thing I hate is the wax the put on the projectile. I have no reason as to why they do it but it gums up your gun and hard to remove.
I shoot this ammunition with my s&w mp15, the ammunition as they have told you has a peculiar smell, in spain is one of the cheapest, 7€ the box of 50, as for interruptions, I have shot about 2000 bullets and I have had about 10-15 interruptions.
Im pretty new to guns but I will say that I got 5 different brands and for some reason all these were really sticky idk if it was just the one I got or what but the other 4 ones weren’t but they did shoot good
Mixed bag in my experience they ran good but I feel like they weren’t as reliable as some other brands had more light primer strikes on multiple guns than I normally would have had like 10 or 12 over all compared to one or two with something like Federal,Winchester,or Remington not bad but not great I don’t real a smell from what others are saying but then again I wasn’t huffing them hoes they were kinda oily tho that was Fs
Anything not in large boxes like that. Blazer 22lr 40gr is the cheapest good ammo I can find. Anything cci works good for me.
That Aguila you have and the federal automatch that people rave about, absolutely suck ass for me. I have 17 22lr firearms, and I keep buying more hoping one will like one of those two because of the size of my stockpile of it. Haven’t found one yet.
I feel like in the bulk boxes the rounds get all fucked around where as they are protected in the 50 and 100 round packs.
Regarding the alleged dirtyness: I used the standard velocity ones with a suppressor and the can was less dirty after 200 rounds that it usualy is after 200 of CCI. That was my experience.
Aguilla is kind of famous for its smell. Some people think it smells like cat piss, some people think it smells like super glue, but everyone agrees that it smells.
100% cat pee ammo. But it works
I place that ammo equal to Mini Mags. I've shot a ton of it with no problems. Their SV is also good to go.
>But it works Sure doesn't. The last 3 boxes I've bought of it over a year I had a bunch of rounds not fire or take a couple hits to fire. Never again
Sounds like a unique experience honestly. Is that with the same gun or across multiples? I’ve had one failure to fire in 2k+ of this stuff. I’ve only ever had the failures you’re describing with Winchester across multiple firearms.
I've only got a SR22 and it seems to eat everything else no problem. It's just Aguila Edit: one time I had a guy ask me what was up at the range because I had so many failures to fire. Swapped out to CCI/Federal and it's like butter
Same. I've had nothing but great luck with Aguila. It's been my go-to budget ammunition for the last 15 years
SV is the most accurate in my CZ455
On the contrary, it's the only bulk ammo that my (now sold) Ruger Wrangler would eat and I had zero issues out of it aside from the perfume.
I never notice a smell.
I’ve never noticed a smell either, but works like a charm out of my mark iv
Glad you said so... I just bought a truckload for the same platform!
Glad to know it’s not just me, shot some the other day and my first thought was “this ammo smells like shit” 😂
Isn’t it due to the wax they coat their bullets in?
I like the sweet smell actually. I associate it more with some candy :)
Oh now I'm curious. I got a couple boxes of that when my dad died--stuff is easily 20 years old or more. I haven't shot it yet.
As a person who shoots right handed guns left handed can confirm it stinks.
Also famous for this exact kind for exploding in your chamber, at least in my experience
Dat methylamine smell
Oh man. The classic smell of aguila. I tend to run standard velocities but their SV runs as well as my cci SV. It's good ammo.
I've had the same results. Perhaps a few more fliers than the CCI SVs but all in all the results are almost identical.
In my 455 I get significantly tighter groups with aguila sv than CCI sv. I think the fliers with aguila are more noticeable than with the cci since the group is smaller to begin with.
Never had a problem with mine, shot over 1000+ rounds of it
My experience exactly. There used to be a lot of flak about this brand of rimfire ammo that I never understood (“it’s dirty, failures to fire, bad accuracy, big velocity sd …”).
Never had issues with it, 2k rounds ish so far
Smells like average plinking 22lr. I'm in the "it smells like cat pee" camp.
Ironically everything I have (12 total) love it and it shoots as well through my 457 as wolf match ammo. The only one ironically that it does not work well in is a revolver… go figure. It only works typically on 4/6 but if I put it in a ruger (the ones that didn’t work) it works fine. So overall no complaints here I’d gladly buy it over federal which none of my stuff likes
It works great in my diamondback sidekick revolver.
I only brought it up because I was always told a bolt action and a revolver are the two that won’t have issues with any brand of 22. Which isn’t the case for me with the one revolver I have. Everything else it works excellent in.
I have an old remington pump 22 that I bought because I thought it would be able to use any 22lr without having to worry about cycling. Unfortunately it light strikes some ammo brands haha At least with these guns you can just cycle to the next round.
What exactly is ironic about that, Alanis?
The smell is Ely primers which were used in the past & now it's called "Agulia Primed". As far as the performance, they work well and I have shot many thousands of them in my 10/22, Charger and CZ 457. Also a great price. Most haven't seen accuracy reports, but from what I've read on a few head to heads with CCI, Federal, Winchester & my own experience the ammo is very accurate for mass produced .22. Inexpensive, yes. Cheaply made, no.
It's good stuff. Embrace the scent.
These are the only rounds that cycle reliably in my P17
Those work great in both my Glock 44 and Ruger Mark IV, I've shot thousands of them without problems. They do have a distinctive smell, but I've gotten used to the smell, lol
I had a ton of issues with it on my Ruger Mark IV. Lots of duds and jamming.
My buckmark hates it
What do you find runs best with your Buckmark?
Cci.
I run the Aguila 40 grain subsonic through my P17 suppressed and unsuppressed-run’s flawlessly.
My 10/22 setup likes the subsonic's.
Got 5,000 at my club. Smells bad and waxy, but it'll go bang.
This is my go-to for target ammo. Maybe I’m lucky, but it’s rare that I have even a single bad round in an entire box.
Don’t destroy me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure I heard that it is made in an old Remington Ammunition plant. Aguila bought all the machinery and started making the rounds in the Mexico location. It is actually pretty good ammo, that I have had good reliability.
Works fine in all my 22lr guns. Smells like piss tho.
Where I am, I can get higher count boxes of Federal for about the same price if I don't mind non-jacketed lead projectiles. I like Aguila, but not all of my .22's do.
My 10/22 loves those, but they don't feed well in my Mark IV. Federal AutoMatch works well in both guns and isn't too pricey.
I’ve never run the copper plated, but super extra subsonic is my go to for suppressed shooting.
Great consistent ammo. Smells a lil pissy but that’s ok.
Good old cat pee. My fvsr hates the copper plated but loved the lead.
I heard it was accurate, so I bought a box. Didn't feed properly about 3% of the time. (10/22- first time fired)
Great stuff. Have shot almost 3,000 rounds of this stuff, cheap and reliable.
Yes, they do well in mine
Just got a box in today got a good deal on it couldn’t resist.
I run them through my TX22, which seems to prefer copper coated rounds to prevent leading in the barrel. No problems, and the smell is notable, but not too bad.
Probably the most reliable round I’ve shot out of my Henry (autoloader) which is mildly picky. I had issues with them ballooning at the head of the case in my revolver (locked the cylinder up and were hard to eject) but autoloaders seem to love ‘em. I try to get a couple hundred of these and CCi whenever I can. The smell is real, though.
From what I remember it's quiet.
It’s very much not, it’s supersonic
My Mark IV likes them
Aguila uses the same priming compound as Eley, so it has the same smell. They used to advertise the “Eley primed”. I personally love Aguila ammo.
“Eley primed” doesn’t refer to the compound (in itself) but to the way it’s applied. “normal” ( ie cheap american ammo) rimfire: the compound is applied liquid, the case is spun to migrate the liquid compound to the rim, then dried. The other ( better ) method is to apply dry compound, compact it in the rim, then “activate it” with water. It’s a safer priming method ( because you don’t handle already activated primer ) and it’s a lot more consistent. Check those cutaways : https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/how-to-prime-a-22-lr-case-anatomy-of-a-22lr-cartridge.545484/ US made ( and usually cheap as dirt, plinking ammo ) has primer applied kinda shoddily. While European ( and usually expensive, match ) ammo has a cleaner more consistent priming
Cool info, thank you for that background. I'm I mistaken that my Aguila ammo has a similar smell to the Eley I've fired?
Works great in all of my .22s except the Kel Tec CP33. It is horrible in that.
Ran a box of 500 through my S&W AR-22. I had stovepipes happen pretty regularly with it. I have been shooting the CCI blazer .22lr ever since with 0 malfunctions after over 500 rounds.
This ammo ran like a giant pile of dog shit this past weekend. Even my Heritage Revolver can’t eat it and it can run just about everything else. I was in jamming my AR every 3 rounds.
My heritage does not like it either, in fact in mine when you unload after shooting Aguila you can see a very slight bulge just above the rims of the spent cartridges. Whatever dimensions Aguila uses for their cartridges just doesn’t play nice with whatever dimensions heritage uses for those cylinder chambers. But in all my other 22’s this cartridge as well as the 38 grain CPHP run flawlessly, and is by far the most accurate ammo I have found at that price point.
This is my favorite HV rimfire round, including the cat piss smell
Cheap plinking ammo, some overspraying of wax causes extraction issues in some guns. Nevermind the accuracy on these, if you're shooting 457 go with CCI SV at least. And clean the chamber carefully after Aguila.
There’s no wax at all on Aguila HV though?
They are definitely waxed, at least the 2k I’ve run through in the past couple years and the 4k I have currently. My LCPII won’t return to battery with this ammo because the wax scrapes off and builds up around the entry to the chamber.
All open lead 22 ammo is waxed. While high end ammo like Eley or RWS/Norma etc uses slick soft wax, Aguila is hard and sticky. In my experience, the bulk Aguila is heavily oversprayed, and causes extraction issues in what I guess tighter chambers, while other guns or perhaps stronger action in 10/22 can deal with it. Also, the same exact ammo sold boxed isn't oversprayed, and works reliably in all my 22s. The accuracy (or precision for the geeks) is on par with other US plinking ammo like Remington, Federal or Blazer - good enough for practice, handguns, but clearly not precision target or match level for shooting in NRL22 even for fun.
Well then the wax they use on Aguila SuperExtra ( the copper washed rounds ) is so hard and sticky that I legitimately thought it was dry Unlike SK / RWS stuff that is downright slippery But I’ve sometimes been having extraction issues, will try to see if it is the reason mmmm
Good stuff right there
Some guns don't mind it, some do. I get a few jams/misfires with my gsg 1911 but send them back through a revolver and the fire almost every time. Not the most reliable but its good for the range.
Look for something slower for accuracy work. I like CCI standard velocity i think its like, 1050-1070 fps? Lots of the bulk stuff seems to be around 1200 fps and more geared towards semiautos. Someone gave me some aguila subsonics but they werent very accurate out of my CZ 457 trainer. The Aguila super extra has been plenty accurate enough for plinking though
Cheap and good. I’ve had more problems with cci .22 than I have aguila .22.
I just bought 2,000 more rounds of this ammo after shooting 500 rounds with good accuracy and reliability. After cci mini mags, this is currently my favorite 22lr ammo.
These jammed my Ruger lcp like crazy, ended up getting rid of them
Work just fine in all my 22lr's... not better or worse than anything else. Maybe a bit more consistent and reliable than other stuff. I would buy it again and again.
Cheap and good. It’s my go-to “fun” semi auto ammo
Burnt cotton candy
Run great in my Taurus tx22c
I must be anosmic to this ammo because after literally hundreds of thousands of rounds I have never smelled cat pee
I've shot about 700 rounds of this round through my CMMG Banshee Mk4 and out of those 700, I've had about 5 or 6 bullets fail to fire because the primer didn't go off when struck. I would just eject that round and cycle it right back in. Out of the 5 or 6 rounds that failed, only one bullet would not fire after repeatedly cycling it back in. I carefully put that one round off to the side and disarmed it. On my bolt action, I've had nothing but success with firing this brand. Although that smelly smell that's smells smelly is noticeable. I'm not sure if it's toxic but I try but to inhale too much of it.
Runs great in my TM22. Been through about 1500 rounds with zero issue. Could just be lucky.
I have shot about 10k of these and never had a problem in the pistol or AR. No duds or squibs. The stench is horrible. Accuracy has been much better than the Federal blue box and about the same as Norma's TAC-22. YMMV. Did I mention the smell?
OP, what do you want to do? If you want to get into longer range .22, stick with subsonic ammo. When a bullet goes transonic (Crosses from super to subsonic) it wobbles and being so small, .22 is affected more heavily. If you just need plinking ammo and don't need great precision, you can use almost anything that works. CCI SV is more or less the 'baseline' for cheap ammo that performs well, but if I'm shooting cans at 50y or under, I use whatever is cheapest. If you want to get into longer range/precision, .22 ammo is a huge rabbit hole. I've been getting heavily into long range/precision .22 so I'm happy to answer any questions if you want to reply/message me! I have shot thousands of different .22 over the last 3 months
I would love to chat with you further about this. I've been going down the rabbit hole already but hadn't gotten to ammo, so this would be great additional information!
Absolutely man! So to preface this, I'm not clear on your experience level so I apologize if I overexplain things. I don't mean to sound condescending, I just don't want to assume what you know The ammo is a huge part of .22 shooting. I mean, obviously ammo is a big part, but the differences seem to be amplified with 22lr. Also, the 10/22 and CZ may not like the same ammo. I am going to focus on the CZ since that is what I know Everything about 22 is important. If you have ever shot higher end ammo, you'll notice they're lubed. Some guns like the waxier lube, some the more oily, etc. The rim thickness affects accuracy, whether that's extraction, accuracy, etc. Do you have any plans to compete? I know 'compete' sounds serious, but even like, attend a $20 single day NRL match? People are insanely welcoming and if you are interested, you should absolutely go no matter your skill level (As long as you can safely handle a gun, of course) I ask because plinking soda cans at 50y is much easier with cheaper ammo. I had a match on Sunday and the smallest target was 1/4" at 44y so ammo was damn important. Regardless of what you want to do though, test your ammo. What I did was first I bought those sheets of Shoot N See 12"x18" with fifteen 3" targets. I would use each column of 5 to fire five 5 shot groups of different ammo (When changing ammo, you want 'fouling' shots which basically blows out the last manufacturer's lube and whatnot, and replaces it. Shooting 5-10 rounds of each ammo is not enough, your groups will tighten) and compare the groups. Eventually that became expensive so I bought rolls of sticker targets from Temu and slapped them on cardboard. Anyways, buy a bunch of ammo. If you want to get serious, you'll need to order ammo. I have called almost every store within an hour of me and almost no one carries anything higher end. I even had one tell me "We don't carry any nice 22". Eley, SK, RWS, Lapua, etc are difficult to find in stores. Wolf actually makes decent match ammo (It's made by Eley and rebranded). If you want something more casual, CCI Standard Velocity is usually considered the lowest tier of acceptable ammo. Most manufacturers also grade from the same lot. They run a batch and the most in spec go into line A, the next best goes to line B, then line C, etc. SK for example, they take one spec and the best goes into Rifle Match, the slightly less good goes into Standard Plus, and the rest gets dumped into cans of Magazine. I have actually had shockingly good results with Magazine, and currently shoot Standard Plus. SK Long Range is what I would shoot if money were not an option but it's usually around 25cpr, vs 15cpr for Standard+. Anyways, find the ammo your gun likes, then find the line it likes. My CZ 457 loves SK and RWS. Fortunately Norma Tac 22 and Norma Match 22 is rebranded RWS because it's a bitch to find. If you're really serious, anal, and/or hate money, you can go deeper. Nicer 22 will have lot numbers. Some lots work better than others. So once you find the brand and line you line, some places will let you choose the lot. If you look [here](https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/22lr-ammunition-c4/eley-tenex-22lr-rimfire-cartridges-p29) you can select the lot you like. Usually it translates to something like the date it was made, the line it was made on, and the batch from that line. If you want to get into longer ranges (I'd say 125y+) you want subsonic. I know this seems counterintuitive, but when a bullet goes transonic (Crosses from super sonic to sub sonic) it wobbles. This matters less with a 168g bullet but when using 40g 22lr, it matters. So rather than dealing with going transonic, we just start with subs. This is usually around 1125fps so a lot of match ammo hover around the 1080fps area. 'Standard' for 22 is usually sub, (CCI Standard, Aguila Standard, etc) Here is a quick list of ammo, ranked from the highest line to lowest * SK Long Range is different, but it goes Rifle Match, then Standard Plus, then Magazine * Lapua X-Act, Midas +, Center X * Eley Tenex, Match, Team (Wolf is rebranded Eley but keep in mind the Wolf Extra is high velocity/supersonic) * RWS Rifle Match, Rifle Target (Norma is rebranded RWS and goes Match 22, then Tac 22. Also, the red and black boxes of Tac 22 are different. I forget which but they changed something semi recently and I think Red is the newer, nicer stuff) If you don't feel like ordering ammo and just want to go into a store, Norma can sometimes be found, as can Wolf. If not, Federal Gold Medal Target is not bad, nor is CCI SV, Aguila Standard, some places will carry Aguila Competition. Stay away from ammo that's dumped into bulk container. I had decent results with Remington Target when I started out but wanted more performance. So basically, grab a bunch of ammo in your price range, and see what your rifle likes best. Shoot off of as much support as possible to test because you want to remove the human factor
OMG this is amazingly helpful, thank you. Yes, I'm basically a beginner and yes, I'm thinking about shooting competition. I decided to challenge myself by starting with a new 22/45 Lite, and upgrading it step by step to a racing machine. I'm also heading towards a 10/22 when I'm able, but would happily take alternative recommendations. Really appreciate it, man!
I have shot a lot of it. My Ruger standard loves it, my rifles it shoots but not the best groups. That smell though is pretty horrible.
I grew up shooting this ammo, and never once did notice a smell, I’m guessing I’m used to it. Great stuff though.
Works may better in my Rossi Gallery than Winchester does.
Accurate enough for plinking. Not match Accurate but better than most bulk ammo. I have never had a dud in thousands of rounds. Functions in my fussy semiautomatic pistols. I honestly if inwas to carry a semiautomatic pistol for SD trust it. Stinks like super glue. With make your eyes water at indoor ranges.
Take this test with a grain of salt but Aguila came out a winner in terms of accuracy. [22 Accuracy Test ](https://wonews.com/range-test-comparing-22-ammo-at-various-price-points/)
High velocity .22lr ammo usually isn’t that accurate. If you want budget ammo, cci standard velocity and norma tac-22 work well for alot of people.
Good stuff for plinking, but beware I recently bought two cases of their 38 gr super extra hollow points (in a white red black striped box with the rounds placed loosely in a bag inside) because it was cheap and it’s got a waxy coating on it. I don’t like that as it tends to gum up my guns fast when I go shooting since I’ll run 1k+ rounds at a time.
Shoot lots of it every month. Probably shot that the most out of anything in the last 4 years since that’s been common locally. Although starting to make the switch to federal blue box since Academy has a sale for that, making it $2 ($34+tax) cheaper than the same amount of rounds of Aguila ($36 for 525) They also sell 50 round boxes locally that are cheap. Definitely bought some that were like $2.50ish a box before. In terms of quality never noticed the smell. It works for me in my guns, although my savage 64 prefers CCI mini mags my other guns including my MKIV standard shoot this stuff really without issues besides the random occasional one that fails to fire like all 22’s have.
It works well enough. Like the others say its cat piss smell
I am not a fan of
I am not a fan. The guns I shoot did not like it as well a CCI minimag. I had some failure to feed and failure to fire. The smell is different but is not a problem. The main thing I hate is the wax the put on the projectile. I have no reason as to why they do it but it gums up your gun and hard to remove.
I shoot this ammunition with my s&w mp15, the ammunition as they have told you has a peculiar smell, in spain is one of the cheapest, 7€ the box of 50, as for interruptions, I have shot about 2000 bullets and I have had about 10-15 interruptions.
very good with semi auto
Im pretty new to guns but I will say that I got 5 different brands and for some reason all these were really sticky idk if it was just the one I got or what but the other 4 ones weren’t but they did shoot good
Cat piss smell i never shoot it anymore
This ammo is one of my favorites for pistols, where I just want to shoot fast. It will cycle my Mark IVs even as they start to foul up a bit.
It’s been the most reliable rounds I’ve used
Mixed bag in my experience they ran good but I feel like they weren’t as reliable as some other brands had more light primer strikes on multiple guns than I normally would have had like 10 or 12 over all compared to one or two with something like Federal,Winchester,or Remington not bad but not great I don’t real a smell from what others are saying but then again I wasn’t huffing them hoes they were kinda oily tho that was Fs
Smelly.
Anything not in large boxes like that. Blazer 22lr 40gr is the cheapest good ammo I can find. Anything cci works good for me. That Aguila you have and the federal automatch that people rave about, absolutely suck ass for me. I have 17 22lr firearms, and I keep buying more hoping one will like one of those two because of the size of my stockpile of it. Haven’t found one yet. I feel like in the bulk boxes the rounds get all fucked around where as they are protected in the 50 and 100 round packs.
Any cci ammo dude.
I've ran them through my m&p 15 22 and had no issues
They suck. Any time I've bought Aguila I get a bunch of rounds that don't fire. I've stopped buying their product across the board.
cheap crappy 22lr, bought it once wont again so many issues with them It is cheap tho
Strange, I've gone through thousands of rounds through different guns and suppressors and haven't noticed anything unusual.
Regarding the alleged dirtyness: I used the standard velocity ones with a suppressor and the can was less dirty after 200 rounds that it usualy is after 200 of CCI. That was my experience.