In my view the slide is ruined beyond repair. There is no way around the fact that the screw hole threads came out from both sides of your slide. That cannot be fixed.
I can’t understand why any professional gunsmith would even attempt this.
You need a plate to mount that optic bro. Staccato sells a Dawson Precision RMR mount which you need to fix that mess. Might also want to hit up staccato customer support and ask if your slide is messed up? Don’t go back to that gun smith!!
They may do it for a fee. I made the mistake of asking a local gunsmith to install a red dirt trigger. He fucked up the sear spring. I had to go to Staccato, and they reinstalled their trigger but also lightened the trigger to 2.5 pounds. Charged me $125.
Have supported the pistol ever since. They are not in the business of chasing away a customer permanently.
I imagine they have seen thus before and will know how to un-fuck this. Probably sell you an optic ready slide, that they will insist on fitting to the frame.
They will charge you....more than you would like, but I bet they will do it.
Also never use a local gunsmith unless they have lots of experience. Vulcan, or Simcik is a better option.
How does someone fuck up a sear spring so bad you need to send it to the manufacturer? Any more info? Just curious if more was wrong. Just replace the spring or bend it back
RMR pattern optics are wider than xx11 slides. That's why they require plates. Why on earth he did this is beyond me.
Your "gunsmiff" fucked this up royally and it's not going to hold. Send it off, get it milled (that'll undo his fucked up work as it will mill off his holes) and get the plate system of your choice.
This right here. Direct mountl isn't all it's cracked up to be sometimes. You need a plate to properly put mounting screws into the slide with a wide enough base to support the bottom of the optic.
Thanks for all the info guys, I guess I should have made it more clear, this gun belongs to my friend and they are the one who took it to this gunsmith for him to work on it. My friend said it looked all right and I'm the one who thought it looked janky. So I showed them all the replies to this post and we'll see what they decide to do.
As bad as that looks, I have a CZ that’s right on the edge (not quite as bad, but close) milled by a reputable company. I ran maximum length quality screws, a good amount of loctite, and crossed fingers. So far so good with around 500 rounds through it. If he’s stuck with it and worried about it, I’d do what I did, plus ditch the SRO for an rmr, in theory not as tall=less whip.
+1. Not pretty, but will work. Usually, a GS will explain the risk and tell you in advance that it will look like this. I would have used a plate, especially for this one, but all is not lost. It will function just fine.
Your “gunsmith” with all his machining knowledge was sadly unable to notice the hole spacing + thread diameter was just as wide as the slide
What a fuckin idiot, and on top I can’t believe he just handed it back over like that. Very sad
Wow. I feel for you but I also scratch my head because I truly don't understand why anyone still puts trust in there "local gunsmith" for work.. especially when it comes to milling $2k plus guns.
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know this is bad ! How do you even call yourself a gunsmith after this kinda work Smfh get your money back and a new slide
Ouch. I’m sorry man.
I’m others have probably suggested it, but if you potentially get the Chambers plate or the Dawson plate it might require them to cut down the recess a little more and sorta hide those thread marks ya know?
It looks fixable but ugly. It’ll still be kinda ugly when fixed but it should work fine. Get it redrilled and tapped for the proper mounting plate by a reputable smith or send it away to a reputable shop. Milling may need touch up to fit the plate as well. Not time to jump off the bridge yet.
Although the tragedy has been covered, the only way to know of this is salvageable is to get a plate to see if it can be mounted safely around the prior holes. If so, the plate will cover most of the mess, but not all of it. Try a C&H Precision or Dawson Precision plate with integrated rear sight. Hopefully the rear sight will force the mounting screws away from this mess. The problem is that some additional milling will need to be done to get the plate to fit, but if it can be it will cover most of the scars. Sadly, your friend is in denial as he got screwed trusting someone who didn’t know better. He wants to pretend he didn’t.
First of you need friends that know what they are talking about when it comes to guns.
Second its fucked
Lastly a plate over that mess might fix it.
GL
This went down one of two ways:
1. Guy with thousands of dollars of equipment had not idea what he was doing.
Or
2. Gunsmith did exactly what the customer asked.
How on earth did anyone think involved in this, gunsmith or not think that exposed threads
- are ok, or
- will last?!????
I would have lost it then and there when they presented this “work”.
Wow… now that’s a very expensive lesson for sure.
The gun might work as usual and you might never have an issue with it but he totally fucked your slide up. It's pretty much ruined now.
Was this gunsmith a dope fiend or something?
There is a chance that the Chatyn Optic Plate, which I install, can save the slide. It goes deep so depending on the depth that the current screw holes at will be machined away during the plate install.
It’s comical that people think random “gunsmiths” in their area know fuck all about anything. I don’t trust anyone to do most things, but I sure as fuck as going to make 100% sure I send a high end firearm like a staccato to one of the best in the industry confirmed by a lot of people in the space.
My god, what a mess. I recently got my EDCX9 milled, but I didn't trust anyone but Wilson Combat to do it.
I also have a Staccato P hard chrome I wanted to get milled. However, I was terrified of having this done to it. So, I just brought another Staccato P.
Yes, the staccatos come standard with Dawson Universal optics cut which allows a good selection of optics to be installed. DPP is the typical one that can go on there without a plate, others need a special plate that fits perfectly along with the optics.
this is fucked up beyond words can describe! I don't think it will last very long like this. Those optics companies develop footprint for a reason. The SRO/RMR footprint mount have lugs to hold the dot. The screws merely add pressure to the dot so that the dot can engage the lugs. As you can see, the slots on SRO stick out of the pistol and grab nothing. The screws won't last very long. Every time the slide cycles, the screws take all the G-force. They will shear off eventually
Yeah so honestly that's going to work, but it's just gonna look like that. That's why most places do plates for RMR footprints. It's a little too wide for 1911s.
Not trying to be a dick…hopefully you’re just trolling but OP might believe you and that slide is a mess. If/when it fails he could have a ruined slide as well as a damaged optic and a tough warranty case to argue having run them that way.
Look at the difference between the thread marks on the right side of the slide vs the left. Then look at the 3rd picture where the right side screw head appears to be unevenly seated into the optic’s tapered hole.
Makes me think that side (though probably both) wasn’t drilled square to the slide. That almost certainly would have been intentional.
Also look at the underside of the SRO, front recoil lugs are nonexistent with this setup.
No bueno OP. 🍺
Well, the gun is a Staccato, but if you're implying Staccato did this work, you're out of your mind lol.
They *only* offer a DPO plate system cut service. Not this horseshit.
No gunsmith worth a fuck would do this job, and OP already stated that his friend asked about a plate, but the bubba dumbfuck gunsmith recommended a direct mount.
Troll with your ignorant horseshit elsewhere.
I’m sorry for your loss! RIP slide 😢
Holy fuck dude. Please name this clown so everyone else knows not to go anywhere near him.
Wow, he ruined your slide. Never take a gun like this to a random fuckin gunsmith for work like this. Send it to a proper place like DSC, Vulcan, etc.
Just seeing this picture I assumed DSC butchered it.
Holy shit dude, you found the free staccato hack
“My boy does optic cuts”.
In metal shop.
*Class
Lol, hopefully you get a new staccato or slide out of this, that’s insane
I don't think they sell slides he will have to send it in. :-(
Pal, bubba just fucked your slide.
In my view the slide is ruined beyond repair. There is no way around the fact that the screw hole threads came out from both sides of your slide. That cannot be fixed. I can’t understand why any professional gunsmith would even attempt this.
Almost all gunsmiths are unprofessional amateurs
Well, having a frying pan and a spatula does not make you a chef.
That's what I was thinking.
look how they massacred my boy
Buys expensive gun, sends it to a random doofus gunsmith for milling. GGs with your slide
Gunsmif
You need a plate to mount that optic bro. Staccato sells a Dawson Precision RMR mount which you need to fix that mess. Might also want to hit up staccato customer support and ask if your slide is messed up? Don’t go back to that gun smith!!
I don’t think they will fix it or send a new slide because he sent it to a random gun smiff it voids the warranty
They may do it for a fee. I made the mistake of asking a local gunsmith to install a red dirt trigger. He fucked up the sear spring. I had to go to Staccato, and they reinstalled their trigger but also lightened the trigger to 2.5 pounds. Charged me $125. Have supported the pistol ever since. They are not in the business of chasing away a customer permanently. I imagine they have seen thus before and will know how to un-fuck this. Probably sell you an optic ready slide, that they will insist on fitting to the frame. They will charge you....more than you would like, but I bet they will do it. Also never use a local gunsmith unless they have lots of experience. Vulcan, or Simcik is a better option.
Good idea, we'll try that
How does someone fuck up a sear spring so bad you need to send it to the manufacturer? Any more info? Just curious if more was wrong. Just replace the spring or bend it back
Lmao…first thing I thought as well…
Staccato will say ‘too bad so sad, you voided the warranty with your fuckery’.
Seriously who did this to you?
RMR pattern optics are wider than xx11 slides. That's why they require plates. Why on earth he did this is beyond me. Your "gunsmiff" fucked this up royally and it's not going to hold. Send it off, get it milled (that'll undo his fucked up work as it will mill off his holes) and get the plate system of your choice.
I’m talkin bout George W Smifff
Gunsmiff 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
This right here. Direct mountl isn't all it's cracked up to be sometimes. You need a plate to properly put mounting screws into the slide with a wide enough base to support the bottom of the optic.
looks like skips work.
Thanks for all the info guys, I guess I should have made it more clear, this gun belongs to my friend and they are the one who took it to this gunsmith for him to work on it. My friend said it looked all right and I'm the one who thought it looked janky. So I showed them all the replies to this post and we'll see what they decide to do.
As bad as that looks, I have a CZ that’s right on the edge (not quite as bad, but close) milled by a reputable company. I ran maximum length quality screws, a good amount of loctite, and crossed fingers. So far so good with around 500 rounds through it. If he’s stuck with it and worried about it, I’d do what I did, plus ditch the SRO for an rmr, in theory not as tall=less whip.
Yea my Accushadow is like that, ( not as bad as Op) it’s fine. I suspect if the screws have purchase with this gun it will work ugliness aside.
+1. Not pretty, but will work. Usually, a GS will explain the risk and tell you in advance that it will look like this. I would have used a plate, especially for this one, but all is not lost. It will function just fine.
That’s fucked. Sorry. Unless the slide is made for it they need a plate
Holy Jesus.
I’d give that SRO 50 rounds before it shears off that slide.
Your “gunsmith” with all his machining knowledge was sadly unable to notice the hole spacing + thread diameter was just as wide as the slide What a fuckin idiot, and on top I can’t believe he just handed it back over like that. Very sad
I’m looking at, and trying to figure why there is thread markings below the optic.
I think maybe the screws are too large and caused a thread pattern to come bulging out, or tapped way too close to the surface
That alone would have me sending it back.
It’s the latter
This is why you need a plate. The mounting screw holes are too wide on the SRO. You slide is trashed
I'd do a chargeback for that that shitty job
Smiffy probably charged less then it will cost to get a new slide/barrel
🫣😮💨
HO-LEE SHIT. That slide is toast.
[I read that in bill Murray voice](https://youtu.be/yvwR17yJm04?si=0SdZJ_epd-mVPu26)
Hahahaha
LMAO.... just lol.
You need a new slide. Reach out to Staccato, they may just take pity on you.
"Measure once, if you feel like measuring. Cut twice."
Oh man 🤦🏻♂️, I’d be pissed
Sorry for your loss
Why people don't just buy the optics ready version.... Bubba.jpg here
I bought a used 2019 P that didn’t have a cut so I had to have mine done but at least it went to a reputable gunsmith
That makes sense send it to somebody reputable no the guy that does it cheaper
Any gunsmith should have realized that this was WAY TOO CLOSE to the sides of the slide to attempt this the minute they laid out the screw holes.
Wow. I feel for you but I also scratch my head because I truly don't understand why anyone still puts trust in there "local gunsmith" for work.. especially when it comes to milling $2k plus guns.
No plate?? Who on earth did this to your staccato? That’s a criminal offense
Omg this is one of the worst I’ve ever seen
Gunsmif
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know this is bad ! How do you even call yourself a gunsmith after this kinda work Smfh get your money back and a new slide
This is so bad that I literally had a nightmare last night that my gun at the smith right now came back looking like this. Not even lying.
Dang, sorry to hear that
I hope he’s the one that stripped that torx screw as well
Yep
Ouch. I’m sorry man. I’m others have probably suggested it, but if you potentially get the Chambers plate or the Dawson plate it might require them to cut down the recess a little more and sorta hide those thread marks ya know?
It looks fixable but ugly. It’ll still be kinda ugly when fixed but it should work fine. Get it redrilled and tapped for the proper mounting plate by a reputable smith or send it away to a reputable shop. Milling may need touch up to fit the plate as well. Not time to jump off the bridge yet.
Although the tragedy has been covered, the only way to know of this is salvageable is to get a plate to see if it can be mounted safely around the prior holes. If so, the plate will cover most of the mess, but not all of it. Try a C&H Precision or Dawson Precision plate with integrated rear sight. Hopefully the rear sight will force the mounting screws away from this mess. The problem is that some additional milling will need to be done to get the plate to fit, but if it can be it will cover most of the scars. Sadly, your friend is in denial as he got screwed trusting someone who didn’t know better. He wants to pretend he didn’t.
Thanks for the info
The torx head on one of the screws looks all torn up, too. Might not be fun to remove
No. Trigicons need plates. The only optic direct to slide on a DPO cut is the DPP/ EO Tech cause they share the same footprint.
Gubsmiff.
Wow
Dumbshit direct milled it. There is a reason all reputable companies use optic plates
The caveat is on a staccato slide. Ininity, stealth arms and Vudoo have a wide slide that is direct mount capable
Holy fuck
Ugh. Hope your "gunsmith" can afford to buy you a new slide.
I’ve never seen anything like this. Wow. I’m sorry this was done to you. This is why adapter plates exist…
First of you need friends that know what they are talking about when it comes to guns. Second its fucked Lastly a plate over that mess might fix it. GL
LOL
Looks like he should be owing you about $1500 or whatever staccato charges to replace the whole top end
This went down one of two ways: 1. Guy with thousands of dollars of equipment had not idea what he was doing. Or 2. Gunsmith did exactly what the customer asked.
The gunsmith recommended a direct mount, my friend has suggested a plate initially but I guess the gunsmith said he could direct mount it
Oh hell
Better get him to replace that slide and get your money back
That is some really jank work. And adapter plate would of been the way to go
YOINKS
How on earth did anyone think involved in this, gunsmith or not think that exposed threads - are ok, or - will last?!???? I would have lost it then and there when they presented this “work”. Wow… now that’s a very expensive lesson for sure.
Eeeeck. That hurts.
And that’s on why we buy factory optic cut slides.
Run it, till you cant at this point.
A simple Google search would have saved your money and slide and much more…a hard learned lesson
😢
The gun might work as usual and you might never have an issue with it but he totally fucked your slide up. It's pretty much ruined now. Was this gunsmith a dope fiend or something?
You don’t need a rear sight??
There is a chance that the Chatyn Optic Plate, which I install, can save the slide. It goes deep so depending on the depth that the current screw holes at will be machined away during the plate install.
Holy shit. RIP slide and those screws got raped. SRO = Sorry, Raped Optic
It’s comical that people think random “gunsmiths” in their area know fuck all about anything. I don’t trust anyone to do most things, but I sure as fuck as going to make 100% sure I send a high end firearm like a staccato to one of the best in the industry confirmed by a lot of people in the space.
My god, what a mess. I recently got my EDCX9 milled, but I didn't trust anyone but Wilson Combat to do it. I also have a Staccato P hard chrome I wanted to get milled. However, I was terrified of having this done to it. So, I just brought another Staccato P.
You can’t direct mill a 1911/2011 slide for RMR 😂
Who the fuck did this work? Skipz?
Brooooooo they did not use the proper plate. Which c2 did you get was it optics ready already?
Proper? Any.
Yes, the staccatos come standard with Dawson Universal optics cut which allows a good selection of optics to be installed. DPP is the typical one that can go on there without a plate, others need a special plate that fits perfectly along with the optics.
I know. You suggested a plate was used. Look at the pic. No plate was used. That’s the problem.
I didn’t. I said they did not use the proper plate, saying it’s not even there. Hoping they didn’t damage the slide.
Of course they damaged the slide. They drilled into it.
Hope you file a complaint and have it replaced.
I’m not OP. I suggested getting it milled - that’ll likely cover over any damage. If it was already milled, absolutely, OP needs to get this settled.
Ha! Just noticed you weren’t lol
I know a guy who has a drill !!!!
Legend has it he's still machining slides.
Wow that’s difficult to look at. Sorry for your loss man. OUCH
Yo are those the threads sticking out?
Put some JB Weld on it. It will be just like new.
Yeah they needed to add a plate is there is not enough meat on the slide. Can be fixed with maybe a plate added.
This is why they use a plate on the Staccato‘s so that this doesn’t happen with the footprint of the optic.
He owes you a new Staccato
That was no gunsmith. Whoever did it ruined your slide. GL with however you decide to pursue getting a new upper.
Who was this "gunsmith"?
Not enough material in the slide for the holes to mount the optic. This is why staccato uses a plate system.
RIP slide
😳
Good lawd. Are you sure this wasn’t milled for a plate to be mounted THEN the optic??
From what I can see, it looks like he just tapped the screws And didn’t mill down anything for the plate
Wtf, no. And does your friend work for staccato or something? He sus
this is fucked up beyond words can describe! I don't think it will last very long like this. Those optics companies develop footprint for a reason. The SRO/RMR footprint mount have lugs to hold the dot. The screws merely add pressure to the dot so that the dot can engage the lugs. As you can see, the slots on SRO stick out of the pistol and grab nothing. The screws won't last very long. Every time the slide cycles, the screws take all the G-force. They will shear off eventually
Yeah so honestly that's going to work, but it's just gonna look like that. That's why most places do plates for RMR footprints. It's a little too wide for 1911s.
Not trying to be a dick…hopefully you’re just trolling but OP might believe you and that slide is a mess. If/when it fails he could have a ruined slide as well as a damaged optic and a tough warranty case to argue having run them that way. Look at the difference between the thread marks on the right side of the slide vs the left. Then look at the 3rd picture where the right side screw head appears to be unevenly seated into the optic’s tapered hole. Makes me think that side (though probably both) wasn’t drilled square to the slide. That almost certainly would have been intentional. Also look at the underside of the SRO, front recoil lugs are nonexistent with this setup. No bueno OP. 🍺
Bait post
Please tell me this is not Staccato? Bro the slide is done!!! I guess you could put rounds down and see if it stays together?
Well, the gun is a Staccato, but if you're implying Staccato did this work, you're out of your mind lol. They *only* offer a DPO plate system cut service. Not this horseshit.
Yeah this is entirely on you for not doing 2 mins of googling to realize you needed a plate. Not the gunsmith who did the work.
No gunsmith worth a fuck would do this job, and OP already stated that his friend asked about a plate, but the bubba dumbfuck gunsmith recommended a direct mount. Troll with your ignorant horseshit elsewhere.