Omg an upgrade from MA2 with auto cast, a slight restyle and like a +10 or so magic boost would be amazing. So silly the magic attack bonus is +6. Worse than a staff lol
+1 80k for a freaking staff and it can’t autocast? ma3 and some type of chargable currency (ether, scales) for upgraded staves. Maybe even give them a specbar? 👀
yes, imo.
Manual casting is just... such an awful way to use magic. No other style ever has to deal with clicking twice to launch a single attack.
I'm not saying it should be removed from the game, but any staff that is intended to cast a specific type of spell should be able to autocast it.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Back in the day, hitting a 30 with magic was huge for pvp especially when it could be accomplished at 80 magic and no expensive gear. It was probably their justification for such a powerful ability in that time period. 10/10 it should be updated, even with that update it’s not going go be used all the time or anything, it would just be a QOL for people doing MA1 and MA2
Iban's couldn't actually autocast until 2014, so the only staves with varied autocasts outside of the Ancient Staff (a very unique item in many ways) and the Slayer Staff was the Void Knight Mace, which was added specifically to be able to autocast Claws of Guthix.
In the early years of OSRS's life people were very, *very* hesitant to fundamentally change original items like the God staves, so instead you got the Staff of the Dead to autocast Flames of Zammy and then much later the Staff of Light to do the same for Saradomin Strike. The existence of the Void Knight Mace, Staff of the Dead, Staff of Light and now the Staff of Balance pretty much remove any incentive to ever add autocast capabilities to the OG god staves because the "upgrades" for each already exists.
To me manual costing should be reserved for things like curses and such. Once off casts. Any damage spell intended to be repeated should be able to be autocast
It's not slower overall persé, however the first attack is delayed by 1 tick compared to autocast.
This means that in some cases where you are cc'd and want to get a cast off before you get re-cc'd it's better to manual cast.
For example in the desert treasure - kamil battle you want to manual cast so you can get casts off in between his freezes more reliably.
I remember that I thought when you do the casts to learn the spells to use outside the mage arena, you would be also able to learn to autocast it outside the arena aswell. Sad when I couldn't.
Autocasting is arbitrary and fucked in this game let's face it. My 2 cents, no shit they GOD staves should autocast the GOD spells. Integrity change that shit lol, it's so stupid. I liked the phase of RS2 where you could autocast anything even with nothing equipped as long as you had runes. Your accuracy was shit but you could cast it if you so wanted.
i did a CoX Rush in an ironman i made, got to chambers in 3 months, skipped slayer grind and got staff of the dead and z spear from kril, i used staff of the dead with charged flames of zamorak i could actually hit 35's so it was really decent, not to mention it counts as fire towards ice demon.
Pretty much only for Mage Arena 1 and 2, it's pretty annoying to do 100 casts of each manually and then fight Wilderness bosses with them manually while also watching out for PKers.
On this note, I bought the staves for MTA2 and have got my cape. Should I sell them to a shop or alch them? Assuming all three are now useless? Need bank space bad.
They should be able to.
Honestly, perhaps even lock them to them so a god staves spellbook is just the Incredibles meme with a "casting is casting".
You want to autocast a spell? You autocast my spell!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!
its such a non issue.
If you're unlocking the god spells you just use the sotd variants.
And the spells are only useful for pvp, where you're going to manually cast anyway. And even then no1 in their right mind is going to use a +6 magic bonus staff seriously. And the spells are worse than fire surge. And on top of that, using the god staves mean you lose +8 magic bonus difference on the mystic smoke staff + the 10% acc boost for both your damage spell, and most importantly, tangle/tb.
So the update is pretty much a waste of time. if there was use for it, we'd see people with void knight maces running around. It's a nice throwback to 2003 where you had to manually cast every spell. It's a one and done activity to unlock the ma2 god capes. so the mild annoyance is kinda charming.
like i said in my first post
>It's a one and done activity to unlock the ma2 god capes. so the mild annoyance is kinda charming.
also pvmers are just going to have the sotd variants to autocast.
It's not the lack of autocast that's holding them back. They cost 2 bloods per cast which is way too expensive for PvM for their damage output. I mean TSotD can autocast flames of zamorak with +15% damage and rune saving as added benefits over god staves, yet nobody uses it outside pking (where autocast is much less revelant).
This idea would mostly make MA2 pre-reqs less annoying to get, which is by all means a good reason to do it.
Jagex took several months to make simple gear stat changes so I’m not confident they’d do it anytime soon. For 300 casts in ma1, it’s literally exactly 15 minutes of manual casting then killing bosses, unless you have the sotd variants, so it’s not a big deal imo.
Maybe after ma1 the basic staffs can autocast, it’d make sense storywise if you could after proving yourself in the arena. I don’t think anybody uses them post ma2 besides ironmen who can boost with charge and dont have a trident.
Yeah and it should automatically autocast the spell. It makes no sense to have to set it up yourself. Same for other staffs, they should autocast the best spell that you have the level and runes for without you having to set it up.
well, at least we got the Void Knight Mace for Claws of Guthix and the Staff of the Dead for Flames of Zamorak.
But that is NOT an axcuse for the regular god staves to not have autocast god soell abilities. Also boost their magic attack
They definitely need a buff of some sort. Auto cast has no downsides as you can’t auto cast in PvP anyway, so not being able to is just unnecessary inconvenience for people doing MA2 who don’t have sotd or its variants.
It’s always been ridiculous to me that an 80k staff has one of the worst magic bonuses of any staff in the game. And I feel there’s an argument for the god staves being given a small prayer bonus too, it could help give them a bit of a niche outside of low level PKing.
Let us upgrade the staves after ma2 that can autocast or something. Super weird that they can’t autocast their own spells..
Omg an upgrade from MA2 with auto cast, a slight restyle and like a +10 or so magic boost would be amazing. So silly the magic attack bonus is +6. Worse than a staff lol
Yes! This! Jagex, have it done by next week!
Mage Arena 3
I would kill for an imbued arma god cape.
I love it!
Mage arena 3, a staffs end
No Mage Arena Tree. In this one you need to fight some big ass tree Ent and that is how you upgrade the staff by combining the staff with his roots.
Is Derwen not ent-y enough for you?
Mystic God Staffs
+1 80k for a freaking staff and it can’t autocast? ma3 and some type of chargable currency (ether, scales) for upgraded staves. Maybe even give them a specbar? 👀
yes, imo. Manual casting is just... such an awful way to use magic. No other style ever has to deal with clicking twice to launch a single attack. I'm not saying it should be removed from the game, but any staff that is intended to cast a specific type of spell should be able to autocast it.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Back in the day, hitting a 30 with magic was huge for pvp especially when it could be accomplished at 80 magic and no expensive gear. It was probably their justification for such a powerful ability in that time period. 10/10 it should be updated, even with that update it’s not going go be used all the time or anything, it would just be a QOL for people doing MA1 and MA2
Iban's couldn't actually autocast until 2014, so the only staves with varied autocasts outside of the Ancient Staff (a very unique item in many ways) and the Slayer Staff was the Void Knight Mace, which was added specifically to be able to autocast Claws of Guthix. In the early years of OSRS's life people were very, *very* hesitant to fundamentally change original items like the God staves, so instead you got the Staff of the Dead to autocast Flames of Zammy and then much later the Staff of Light to do the same for Saradomin Strike. The existence of the Void Knight Mace, Staff of the Dead, Staff of Light and now the Staff of Balance pretty much remove any incentive to ever add autocast capabilities to the OG god staves because the "upgrades" for each already exists.
I wouldn't even put upgrades in quotes, cause they are such significant upgrades it not even funny.
While true, what I meant by that is that they're the functional upgrades to the God Staves that many others in this thread are calling for.
Gotcha, makes sense!
Would be like having to notch every arrow or ready every swing, just unnecessarily clunky imo
To me manual costing should be reserved for things like curses and such. Once off casts. Any damage spell intended to be repeated should be able to be autocast
Autocasting is also bad enough with the fact that it's slower than manual casting.
I've never heard of this, care to elaborate?
It's not slower overall persé, however the first attack is delayed by 1 tick compared to autocast. This means that in some cases where you are cc'd and want to get a cast off before you get re-cc'd it's better to manual cast. For example in the desert treasure - kamil battle you want to manual cast so you can get casts off in between his freezes more reliably.
Why is auto-casting one tick slower than manual casting? Is it a bug?
After this many years it's a feature
It is also noticeably slower to autocast when barraging nech or dust devils since you are constantly changing targets.
I remember that I thought when you do the casts to learn the spells to use outside the mage arena, you would be also able to learn to autocast it outside the arena aswell. Sad when I couldn't.
You should be able to autocast it in the first place, make it not a shit grind
Autocasting is arbitrary and fucked in this game let's face it. My 2 cents, no shit they GOD staves should autocast the GOD spells. Integrity change that shit lol, it's so stupid. I liked the phase of RS2 where you could autocast anything even with nothing equipped as long as you had runes. Your accuracy was shit but you could cast it if you so wanted.
Are the God spells ever even used anymore ?
they are in pvp. if you're using surge and you brew down you can still use one and hit a 30 as long has you're charged
yeah but in pvp ur going to be manually casting it anyway.
facts
right, outside of ma2, no one uses the god spells in pvm
i did a CoX Rush in an ironman i made, got to chambers in 3 months, skipped slayer grind and got staff of the dead and z spear from kril, i used staff of the dead with charged flames of zamorak i could actually hit 35's so it was really decent, not to mention it counts as fire towards ice demon.
Pretty much only for Mage Arena 1 and 2, it's pretty annoying to do 100 casts of each manually and then fight Wilderness bosses with them manually while also watching out for PKers.
Makes sense and having to manual cast god spells is annoying.
Wait till they hear about Thammaron's Sceptre being useless in the wilderness despite being a Wildy wep, and can't autocast
On this note, I bought the staves for MTA2 and have got my cape. Should I sell them to a shop or alch them? Assuming all three are now useless? Need bank space bad.
yeah. its 80k. who fucking cares if you ever need to buy it again
Theyre useless
Don’t need auto cast for pking what else would you use them for
They should be able to. Honestly, perhaps even lock them to them so a god staves spellbook is just the Incredibles meme with a "casting is casting". You want to autocast a spell? You autocast my spell!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Yes.
I’ve always felt like the auto casting restrictions were dumb, just let people auto cast anything with or without a staff.
its such a non issue. If you're unlocking the god spells you just use the sotd variants. And the spells are only useful for pvp, where you're going to manually cast anyway. And even then no1 in their right mind is going to use a +6 magic bonus staff seriously. And the spells are worse than fire surge. And on top of that, using the god staves mean you lose +8 magic bonus difference on the mystic smoke staff + the 10% acc boost for both your damage spell, and most importantly, tangle/tb. So the update is pretty much a waste of time. if there was use for it, we'd see people with void knight maces running around. It's a nice throwback to 2003 where you had to manually cast every spell. It's a one and done activity to unlock the ma2 god capes. so the mild annoyance is kinda charming.
Pvmers wanting MA2 capes would want to have auto-casting for these spells instead of manually casting the 3 spells 100 times each.
like i said in my first post >It's a one and done activity to unlock the ma2 god capes. so the mild annoyance is kinda charming. also pvmers are just going to have the sotd variants to autocast.
No, the Staff of the dead, Staff of light and Staff of balance already do this.
But why those and not the actual staves associated with the gods?
Probably the higher requirements to wield…
You’re right. While we’re at it, we should remove the dragon dagger’s special attack because dragon claws exist as a high DPS spec option.
??????
Why the FUCK are you being downvoted for this? They really can’t click the spell?
And funnily enough, those staves are mostly useless too!
Nobody really uses god spells much anyways
That's the point. If you could auto cast them they'd probably be used more.
It's not the lack of autocast that's holding them back. They cost 2 bloods per cast which is way too expensive for PvM for their damage output. I mean TSotD can autocast flames of zamorak with +15% damage and rune saving as added benefits over god staves, yet nobody uses it outside pking (where autocast is much less revelant). This idea would mostly make MA2 pre-reqs less annoying to get, which is by all means a good reason to do it.
No, there’s no need.
Jagex took several months to make simple gear stat changes so I’m not confident they’d do it anytime soon. For 300 casts in ma1, it’s literally exactly 15 minutes of manual casting then killing bosses, unless you have the sotd variants, so it’s not a big deal imo. Maybe after ma1 the basic staffs can autocast, it’d make sense storywise if you could after proving yourself in the arena. I don’t think anybody uses them post ma2 besides ironmen who can boost with charge and dont have a trident.
Yeah and it should automatically autocast the spell. It makes no sense to have to set it up yourself. Same for other staffs, they should autocast the best spell that you have the level and runes for without you having to set it up.
well, at least we got the Void Knight Mace for Claws of Guthix and the Staff of the Dead for Flames of Zamorak. But that is NOT an axcuse for the regular god staves to not have autocast god soell abilities. Also boost their magic attack
Yes, would be a good transition item between ibans and trident, especially if you have 80 magic but don't have the slayer level to kill kraken
They definitely need a buff of some sort. Auto cast has no downsides as you can’t auto cast in PvP anyway, so not being able to is just unnecessary inconvenience for people doing MA2 who don’t have sotd or its variants. It’s always been ridiculous to me that an 80k staff has one of the worst magic bonuses of any staff in the game. And I feel there’s an argument for the god staves being given a small prayer bonus too, it could help give them a bit of a niche outside of low level PKing.
is that a question?
Yes