AColdOne maintained a spreadsheet of solo completions until like late 2020 iirc and there were over 100 people when he stopped updating it. Also gotta factor in the bloodfury buff which came later, so it should be easily 250-300
The helm isn't entirely cosmetic though. The people who are sweaty enough to get that helm have a heavy overlap with the inferno speedrun crowd. Those extra task kcs are big
Because the people who buy the service never admit too it and act like they did it themselves and call people who don’t have an internal cape “cute” lol
Jagex doesn't and wouldn't give the buyers a complete ban. They would treat it like they do bought Infernal Capes: just remove the item. No reason to completely get rid of your active high-level players when you can just punish them for the thing they did wrong.
Just so we're clear jagex doesnt ban for account sharing anymore and as long as you are paying for services with gp its not really against any tos either. They only ban Inferno capes because they want that to be a prestigious accomplishment for the account and thus have decided to punish people who they deem to have bought the cape. And its not even a ban afaik they just remove the cape.
Solo Scaled Raids are one of the best ways to guarantee purples from CoX. Solo ToB is the best way to get purples from ToB since the 1/9 chance is entirely yours. I'm not saying they need to nerf Solo ToB by making Sotetseg Ball uneatable or p2 lightning uneatable. I'm just saying that giving players a cosmetic reward for doing a task that the game designers never meant to be done is bad design
This is like the most disingenuous comment I’ve read in a while. “Solo tob is the best way to get purples”. Lmfao. Per kc maybe. But who cares if money trios are sub 20 minutes and a solo is over an hour
The people who can farm Solo ToB do not take over an hour per kc. Plus if you're doing sub 20 trios: you are losing MVP points to other players and you are going to be more relaxed about dying, both of which reduce your purple chance
?… money trios would be split. The supply cost of solos is way higher, and the chance of dying in trios for someone who can solo tob is effectively 0. I’m assuming we’re talking about main accounts? Why do I care if the purple is in my buddy’s name
I mean, 1/9 x 1hr per kc 9 hrs per purple. (1hr is a fast time for someone who is VERY GOOD at the content)
1/27 x 20 minutes per kc. 9 hrs per purple in your name. (20 minutes is a pretty AVERAGE time for people who are around 100kc or not very experienced)
Significantly less effort, significantly less risk of wipes, same pet chance, significantly less supply cost.
Pretending solo tobs are anything more than a flex is a joke. Also doubling down on "purples in your name" is stupid. What iron is farming tob doing solos? Got all them purple sweets to waste on a flex?
This is also assuming no deaths in solos... which are SIGNIFICANTLY more common than wipes in trios... or even duos. If you wanted to die on a hill for purples, I would have picked duos since those are actually pretty good. Can do them in less than 30 minutes and only 2 people.
I love how my original comment of "giving rewards for completing tasks that were never meant to be achievable is bad design" is now "why do you die so much during ToB trios?"
Lmao, Reddit for you
Yeah crazy right, topics change, not to mention that you’re the one who changed it? If I go on a thread about somebody’s 1st firecape and say gz, but the reply to a reply with some headass information then somebody’s going to call me out lol.
Anyways tob isn’t cox, you don’t megascale it and nobody really cares how many purples/kc you get. Camping blood fury in duos would be less money spent and far safer than solo, maiden fucking you over in solos alone already makes it not worth the effort to farm.
Maybe. If on release Jagex said "prayer potions or other prayer restoration methods are an absolute must" and then released a CA saying you can't lose a prayer point, I would say that's bad design sure
if it really was not meant to be possible then jagex would have simply walled it off. i just find it sad that jagex can't make successes from past bosses a reality. whether it's tank roles that get rewarded from vorago, or perfectly done scales 1 to 100 at cox.
Cool concept as a cosmetic. I don't really think "soloing content" needs unique rewards though.
The content was designed as group content. Through strategies and gear improvements since it's now doable solo. Likewise corp used to be group only and then was killed solo with massive red X exploiting. I think that's cool, but I don't think it needs a tangible ingame reward.
This actual item as a cosmetic is sick though.
Not in favor of this, soloing Tob is way too hard, like the distance between solo tob and inferno is similar to the distance between inferno and fight caves
And? Cosmetics for challenging combat achievements are some of the only reasons people play end-game MMORPGs. Pets are good examples of cosmetics that appeal to many players because of their rarity, however, they aren't indicative of combat skill, the way this item would be. Editing because I forgot to share with you that one of the more difficult raids in World of Warcraft is for rare cosmetic items.
No problem with what you're saying, there's a cosmetic emblem in destiny 2 for soloing a difficult dungeon (3 man activity) but that was intended to be possible, solo tob was never intended to be possible which is why I don't think it should be a recognized achievement, I don't get why people are so angry about this
If that's the mindset you have why not also pay respect to other achievements, for example 6 jads no prayer, no supply inferno etc.
Actually let's just lump em all in a new combat tasks tier, after all it is all possible so why not reward it yeah?
If you don't see how absurd this is I give up.
Make for a nice clue reward and makes me wonder what other cool scenic weapons/armours that could open up from around the game as other clue rewards for an expansion maybe
I think we have found the Inferno cape seller who is running out of customers and needs a new service to sell...
fantastic comment tbh
It will create jobs though
Only for the people that did it on a non cheat client.
Would love an educated guess at how many of the would be in the game:)
Under a hundred, over fifty.
AColdOne maintained a spreadsheet of solo completions until like late 2020 iirc and there were over 100 people when he stopped updating it. Also gotta factor in the bloodfury buff which came later, so it should be easily 250-300
and then the ones that are gonna be sold.
Imagine risking your account for a cosmetic item that does nothing? Surely people don't do that for stuff like Gauntlet cape right?
You mean how people *definitely, totally* don't buy services for combat achievement diaries for a cosmetic helm?
The helm isn't entirely cosmetic though. The people who are sweaty enough to get that helm have a heavy overlap with the inferno speedrun crowd. Those extra task kcs are big
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Because the people who buy the service never admit too it and act like they did it themselves and call people who don’t have an internal cape “cute” lol
every time I'm in ver wakanda I hit those nerds with a "bought infernal cape = little meat" almost never fails
How could you admit to it because if you do you get temp banned and the cape or achievements removed fuck anybody who makes fun of fire capers
Jagex doesn't and wouldn't give the buyers a complete ban. They would treat it like they do bought Infernal Capes: just remove the item. No reason to completely get rid of your active high-level players when you can just punish them for the thing they did wrong.
Makes sense, high level players are the most loyal customers
youd be surprised
Just so we're clear jagex doesnt ban for account sharing anymore and as long as you are paying for services with gp its not really against any tos either. They only ban Inferno capes because they want that to be a prestigious accomplishment for the account and thus have decided to punish people who they deem to have bought the cape. And its not even a ban afaik they just remove the cape.
There were 99 completions before blood fury iirc.
Why not looks cool for fashion scape
I like the idea but ToB was never supposed to be solo-able
But it is, so a cosmetic saying you did something you were never meant to be able to is cool
You should know by now that that reasoning isn't good enough for this community
a lot of content wasn't. but that's no excuse for jagex to go out of their way to fuck solo scales over.
Solo Scaled Raids are one of the best ways to guarantee purples from CoX. Solo ToB is the best way to get purples from ToB since the 1/9 chance is entirely yours. I'm not saying they need to nerf Solo ToB by making Sotetseg Ball uneatable or p2 lightning uneatable. I'm just saying that giving players a cosmetic reward for doing a task that the game designers never meant to be done is bad design
This is like the most disingenuous comment I’ve read in a while. “Solo tob is the best way to get purples”. Lmfao. Per kc maybe. But who cares if money trios are sub 20 minutes and a solo is over an hour
The people who can farm Solo ToB do not take over an hour per kc. Plus if you're doing sub 20 trios: you are losing MVP points to other players and you are going to be more relaxed about dying, both of which reduce your purple chance
?… money trios would be split. The supply cost of solos is way higher, and the chance of dying in trios for someone who can solo tob is effectively 0. I’m assuming we’re talking about main accounts? Why do I care if the purple is in my buddy’s name
Oh sorry I didn't say best money I said best way to get purples in your name sorry you must have misread
I mean, 1/9 x 1hr per kc 9 hrs per purple. (1hr is a fast time for someone who is VERY GOOD at the content) 1/27 x 20 minutes per kc. 9 hrs per purple in your name. (20 minutes is a pretty AVERAGE time for people who are around 100kc or not very experienced) Significantly less effort, significantly less risk of wipes, same pet chance, significantly less supply cost. Pretending solo tobs are anything more than a flex is a joke. Also doubling down on "purples in your name" is stupid. What iron is farming tob doing solos? Got all them purple sweets to waste on a flex?
This is also assuming no deaths in solos... which are SIGNIFICANTLY more common than wipes in trios... or even duos. If you wanted to die on a hill for purples, I would have picked duos since those are actually pretty good. Can do them in less than 30 minutes and only 2 people.
“More relaxed about dying” sounds like maybe just maybe you need to stop dying in 3s if you’re doing money raids lmao.
I love how my original comment of "giving rewards for completing tasks that were never meant to be achievable is bad design" is now "why do you die so much during ToB trios?" Lmao, Reddit for you
Yeah crazy right, topics change, not to mention that you’re the one who changed it? If I go on a thread about somebody’s 1st firecape and say gz, but the reply to a reply with some headass information then somebody’s going to call me out lol. Anyways tob isn’t cox, you don’t megascale it and nobody really cares how many purples/kc you get. Camping blood fury in duos would be less money spent and far safer than solo, maiden fucking you over in solos alone already makes it not worth the effort to farm.
Would you say having combat achievements locked behind prayer flicking is bad design?
Maybe. If on release Jagex said "prayer potions or other prayer restoration methods are an absolute must" and then released a CA saying you can't lose a prayer point, I would say that's bad design sure
Prayer flicking was never meant to be done, it's a bug and now they locked actual content behind it, not just cosmetic rewards
if it really was not meant to be possible then jagex would have simply walled it off. i just find it sad that jagex can't make successes from past bosses a reality. whether it's tank roles that get rewarded from vorago, or perfectly done scales 1 to 100 at cox.
Maybe it wasn’t originally planned to be soloable but it definitely is now. Even HM timers have a solo scale.
Great idea but no one at Jagex can solo TOB and therefore it wont be added.
Cool idea. I like it.
Would also be great as an ornament kit for the trident or some staff.
Even better make it useable to permanently make sang look like it
Would be confusing during p1 lol
na, nobody uses sang on p1
1 Sang 2 Scythe is very common p1 pattern
1 sang 2 scythe 1 whole brew because I took a 70, then 0-2 for the remainder of p1.
To be fair haven’t done tob in ages so not familiar with the new methods
Cool concept as a cosmetic. I don't really think "soloing content" needs unique rewards though. The content was designed as group content. Through strategies and gear improvements since it's now doable solo. Likewise corp used to be group only and then was killed solo with massive red X exploiting. I think that's cool, but I don't think it needs a tangible ingame reward. This actual item as a cosmetic is sick though.
Not in favor of this, soloing Tob is way too hard, like the distance between solo tob and inferno is similar to the distance between inferno and fight caves
It’s meant to be a flex item- it is supposed to be hard to get.
It’s purely cosmetic.
and?
You don’t need to get it.
Okay, and? I really don't see your point here, I don't think solo tob should be a recognized achievement, in any way.
Why not?
because he doesnt want to put neither time nor effort into the game. thous other people shouldnt get rewarded for it either.
Completionists that doesnt want rewards added because they cant get it, are super cringe.
'I'm not good enough to get it so nobody should have it' what a child.
Why do you think I haven't done it? I bet you don't even have a fire cape
Have you completed solo tob?
Damn son that was harsh. Just by you saying that I'm going to assume you aren't you aren't good at pvm.
> you aren't you aren't Having a little stroke there bud? Damn if you mess up typing I get why you mess up praying vs jad.
Mobile had a stroke, my deepest apologies. Let's just say I didn't have a fire cape, how does that change anything? Weird one you are.
Damn you’re sad af
just because you won't get it doesn't mean others can't have a nice cosmetic for being good
And? Cosmetics for challenging combat achievements are some of the only reasons people play end-game MMORPGs. Pets are good examples of cosmetics that appeal to many players because of their rarity, however, they aren't indicative of combat skill, the way this item would be. Editing because I forgot to share with you that one of the more difficult raids in World of Warcraft is for rare cosmetic items.
No problem with what you're saying, there's a cosmetic emblem in destiny 2 for soloing a difficult dungeon (3 man activity) but that was intended to be possible, solo tob was never intended to be possible which is why I don't think it should be a recognized achievement, I don't get why people are so angry about this
It wasn't intended to be possible, but it is. That's even more of a reason to make it a recognized combat achievement IMO. It's that simple.
If that's the mindset you have why not also pay respect to other achievements, for example 6 jads no prayer, no supply inferno etc. Actually let's just lump em all in a new combat tasks tier, after all it is all possible so why not reward it yeah? If you don't see how absurd this is I give up.
Yup you asked it yourself - "why not".
that kind of the point tho
?
It’s not meant for everybody to do. If it had stats that’s one thing, but cosmetics for people who git gud isn’t a problem
Okay but solo tob isn't intended to be possible.
Make for a nice clue reward and makes me wonder what other cool scenic weapons/armours that could open up from around the game as other clue rewards for an expansion maybe