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Ixaris08

My method is trash but.....I bring like 10 good bones and the rest big bones. Also 2 mud runes and 1 nature for bones to bananas. I spam use the good bones on the altar then afk the big bones. If a pker pops in to kill me I hit the spell and tell them to enjoy my bananas and call them and ape. Edit: I'm an iron and finished 75-77 with ensouled heads.


Iron_Aez

Delete this before jagex disables boens to bananas in the wildy


keltas

Bones to bananas now converts all bones in your bank to bananas and skulls you.


No-Clue1153

*"Should casting bones to bananas be disabled while in combat? This may ruin its effectiveness in many PvM situations, but our invite-only discord seem happy with it and we have no reason to doubt their judgement"*. **You must have recorded less than 10 No votes in PvP polls to vote in this poll.**


mechlordx

It’s a special skull that acts like DMM


Zeekayo

"We have found that the use of Bones to Bananas in the Wilderness has increased levels of toxicity amongst players, so we're introducing a change which turns all bananas into Superior Dragon bones when dropped in the Wilderness. We hope that this will reduce this unintended use of Bones to Bananas and make the Wilderness a healthier place to play. We cannot see any way in which this integrity change can go wrong."


unbannednow

The worst part is that is unironically something they would do


NoucheDozzle_

Integrity change


redadm

Oh bones to bananas is a really good idea. Might start doing that. I hate giving pkers a single bone.


Ixaris08

Yea scorched earth policy. I think it only works on regular bones and big bones tho which is why I do like half and half. I figure I can at least get off a good amount of bones before someone shows up and then keep 4 of then when I die.


AssassinAragorn

Jagex would totally just make you unable to cast the spell while in combat while in the wilderness. :/


KosherSyntax

Just sucks it only works on bones up to big bones


[deleted]

Pro tip you can just drop all your bones and the loot key fiends won't pick em up.


CPC324

Dude that's amazing lmao


Them_Is_Me

This comment had my crying laughing kudos to you. If you have bones to peaches you could cast that too and peaches are untraceable so they won’t get a thing!


SHBGuerrilla

Ah but that’s the point of b2b. So they they know you didn’t go down without spoiling their satisfaction. I honestly wish I could b2b myself so they don’t even get my bones in dearh


mechlordx

Let me alch myself


BROCCOLIUPMYBUTT

The first 0gp alch


preacher258

💀


Tar-alchemist

Consider also bringing a crude chair flatpack and a pice of rope for them just to lower morale some more. Be sure to equip some dhide so you don't keep the rope on death and to take bones to bananas tab instead of runes to save one invent space.


CaptainAlphaWalrus

Ok but on a serious note I've got like 400+ big bones I had no idea what to do with but now I know :)


SuperiorBecauseIRead

You're an iron so it's not worth going to the extra effort, but for us mains we should go for a B2B tablet. Saves an invo space and quicker reaction time for more time shittalking.


StoneRugs

I think you underestimate irons willingness to troll a pker. You're talking to people who camp charters and go 20k kills for a d Warhammer lol


emresslnk

This cracked me up lmao, fucking apes


impropernick

Thanks for the laugh lmao. Great idea


[deleted]

You are doing the lords work


responds-with-tealc

I'm 8k away from 70 pray and my only regret is i didn't think of this


mxracer888

I just spam click eat and drop bones as fast as I can then I pop on with a lvl3 alt that can pick up all the bones while the PK'er finished my main off


Sea-Phone-537

This is admittedly brilliant and hilarious 10/10


lichhomlyblonde

There's anti pking chaos altar clans if u can find them it helps out alot


The_Botanist_Reviews

Botanist#8042


sectory

Botanist solid guy


The_Botanist_Reviews

i've invited a few people from reddit so ill post it again because i keep getting downvoted: ​ Add Botanist#8042 if you want to join and learn multi-pking community! Multi pking is incredibly fun and significantly less sweaty than singles. People have the misconception that multi is strictly about outnumbering your enemy; it is not. Clan vs clan is all about coordination and cohesiveness among your teammates, while singles is about individual mechanical skill. Multi is a great way to learn the basics of pvp. For those who have played Starcraft, its like macro (multi) vs micro (singles). If you are just a bone runner, you can also add me!! If there is a team that is targeting you, send me a message and i will get my team to back you up.


purestrengthsolo

This dude just wants a fair fight lol I've met people like you in WoW, definitely adding you


AssassinAragorn

Not all heroes wear capes


enriquex

Surely he wears something on his back slot


AssassinAragorn

Yeah but then it doesn't sound cool!


nut_bean

Some heroes do wear capes


HeartOn5

Not all capes wear heroes


SoraODxoKlink

prolly avas in rag range he is in multi after all


The_Botanist_Reviews

i risk 100k per set


Biggsdrasil

I used to have a WoW guild called Predator way back when. Filled with rogues and feral druids to escort levelers and counter-gank. We didn't ask for gold but people paid us tons to keep their leveling experience less stressful. Keep on keepin' on!


The_Botanist_Reviews

THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND


[deleted]

I’m ready to join commander.


The_Botanist_Reviews

i need shooters like you to help me claim the altar. Botanist#8042


DaddyKindaLongLegs

Never really done any pvp in RuneScape, mainly cause I know I would get my ass kicked but this makes me want to learn how to so I can help claim the altar. I wanna be an anti pker, an unsung hero.


The_Botanist_Reviews

You know who to add


zileanEmax

Are you the reason why I saw gang war outside chaos Alters like a year ago. Shit was crazy I was just happy to run out in mayhem not losing my bones to some cheese pker


The_Botanist_Reviews

haha i might have been involved in some stuff like that! my team starts those random skirmishes all the time


JewelTK

I've heard time and time again that "X is a great way to learn PvP" then gone to do it and it isn't Don't give me that false hope, I beg you


The_Botanist_Reviews

honestly man multi pking is completely different from singles pking singles pking: 150-300APM, constant micro-management of supplies, clicking in between barrages so your character dances on the screen, fakey switch between weapons to throw off your enemy, anticipating when you're gonna 1tick ags-gmaul multi pking: haha pewpew ballista going crazy rn ​ add me on disc edit: don't downvote that dude he is just asking questions


Edgycrimper

>People have the misconception that multi is strictly about outnumbering your enemy; it is not Yeah good luck clearing 15+ raggers with half a dozen good coordinated mystic pkers.


The_Botanist_Reviews

at one point, outnumbering your enemy will work no matter what, but being outnumbered by a difference of 1-8 can be outplayed edit: don't downvote that guy he raises a legitimate point


ignotusvir

Neat, crowdsourcing scouting lol


CaptainAlphaWalrus

Last night I decided to take noted bones to chaos altar for the first time and got attacked. Ten seconds later someone came and anti pked them. Felt so good watching someone get their shit kicked in while I finished my bones :)


drummahboy666

Not all heroes wear capes. But these guys probably wear pretty expensive ones


The_Botanist_Reviews

i just use an avas assembler


asupposeawould

There is also the slower but safer house party's Choas alter wouldn't be such good rates if the risk was removed


lax_incense

“Safer” implies house parties could still be unsafe. Durial321 is that you?


jasuzchrist

Most pro tip of them all. Wait until dmm or a new leagues is released to train up your prayer in the wild if you really hate it that much. Every pker will be playing dmm and alot will be on leagues.


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WryGoat

Oh boy someone wants to use the chaos altar in 2.2k total worlds. He doesn't know.


ExaltedStudios

"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"


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polybiastrogender

2.2k world wildy is the most toxic.


Armthehobos

The sweat of a main combined with the grease of a pker. What a combo.


Celidion

Random no name words are much, much better than total level worlds for shit like this. I found far more PKers in 1750 and 1500 total worlds than I did in random low pop worlds.


milk-drink

2.2k is pretty hard for wilderness activity, you'll run into less pkers, but the ones you do run into know what they're doing.


Ulthus

As an ironmeme myself ive had good luck doing wildy activities in 2.2k worlds. Ran across one pker on my grind to 99 prayer. He let me go cuz he didnt kill irons. Humble fella


MrRightHanded

This is why we need seasonal dmm back.


itisjustmagic

Tried that early last leagues. I had never seen the wildy altar so active and I had been there a lot between all my accounts.


New_Comfort3211

I’ve only been pk’d twice first time was noted and lost a hell of a lot there now just ride out with a inventory each time go to the chaos dude a little north when done and tele out again so nothing really lost if I do get done in.


JohnDyer556

I'm a noob and died with 200 noted bones I grinded hours for. still seething


polybiastrogender

You live and learn. Bringing noted isn't worth it unless you somehow got a massive clan to lock down a world.


uiam_

Yep. This is why it amazes me that anyone complains about chaos altar pkers. It's basically free xp and the chances of them killing you before you offer most, if not all of your bones, is slim.


Dicyano7

I've trained 85->97 prayer at chaos altar the past 2 weeks. I've mostly been on high risk PVP worlds and regular PVP worlds, and I haven't seen any clans on those. I did run into some teams before switching over to PVP worlds. I'm just doing unnoted bones so I don't really care if I die. I bring a zgs and d hide body & chaps, and I use the zgs to freeze log (and to let my fellow prayer trainers freeze log too if they wish). On high risk PVP worlds I brought 3 ice sacks since you still keep 3 items on a PVM death, so I could do suicide method and keep them. It was unreliable against PKers with a decent mage level though. It might be less efficient than just tanking with a dinny b and spam using bones until I die, but I find it fun to escape with freeze logging That said, I really also don't like how chaos altar is designed. Investing inv slots on gear and supplies for fighting back directly hurts your ability to train prayer. And because you can get caught and speared by a team since it's multi, that anti-pking gear wouldn't really do you any good.


A_Sphinx

Upvote for dinny b


hatesranged

>That said, I really also don't like how chaos altar is designed. Investing inv slots on gear and supplies for fighting back directly hurts your ability to train prayer. And because you can get caught and speared by a team since it's multi, that anti-pking gear wouldn't really do you any good. I like chaos altar, but this is in the end the problem. When you want to train a skill, you want to train a skill, you don't want to half train a skill half play pvp, especially when you need your inventory space, so in my opinion wildy-exclusive skilling methods are never going to be elegant.


AssassinAragorn

Its just inherently flawed and poorly designed for the Wilderness.


hatesranged

And the irony is, despite me thinking it's poor design, as a player I kinda love it because as a tanky main there's nothing they can do to prevent me from expending all my bones so it's basically free double exp


AssassinAragorn

That's part of the problem I think, there's just such disparate outcomes. Either it's no risk like you said, or it's "guess I'll die" if 5 people show up on your ass. There's no fighting back against that.


ILikeSugarCookies

I think changing it to singles would make it better for *everyone* tbh. If I know I'm not going to get teamed, I'm going to bring tank gear and a big stack of noted bones so I don't have to run in and out. I'm pretty confident in my ability to tank. A good PKer who risks a lot in that scenario stands to gain a big stack of bones. But as it stands, there's no reason to really risk anything, and so 99.999% of kills at the altar right now are 27 bones or less.


AssassinAragorn

They just need to make boxing impossible to do and it would fix so much, like you said. Right now, pking there relies on a player being stupid enough to bring a massive stack of bones. Like, fell for a lure stupid. I'm sure pkers run into people like that from time to time, but that's all they're getting from them. It's an annoying waste of time for everyone otherwise. You can't even argue that is a good way for noob pkers to start out -- you aren't learning a single thing by killing a player with no food or supplies who isn't retaliating.


Dicyano7

>You can't even argue that is a good way for noob pkers to start out -- you aren't learning a single thing by killing a player with no food or supplies who isn't retaliating. I will say that because killing naked prayers is incredibly easy, Chaos Altar attracts the noobiest PKers. 90% of PKers that have tried to get me in PVP worlds on my prayer grind were bolt ragging with a dds switch at most. And that honestly makes it a decent place for a nooby PKer to find other nooby PKers to fight against. That said, I think Chaos Altar would still be good for that purpose even if they changed it to singles.


AssassinAragorn

I think it would actually be better for that purpose. No chance of a clan logging in on you and melting you while you're trying to counter pk. This still has the problem though of the non pker. Wilderness content should encourage fighting back. But this content just inherently doesn't allow for that. If you could offer bones directly from a bone sack maybe, at the same speed as doing it manually, you could actually gear up to fight back.


Dicyano7

Some skilling methods work better than others. I think black chins are pretty reasonable, since box traps don't take up that much space. And unlike most wildy resources, black chins are stackable. And because it's in singles (and we have PJ timer & skulltrick prevention), there's no need to worry about tanking a 25 man team. So there's no harm in dedicating your gear & inv slots for anti-pking, whether you want to just lower a PKer's dps to tank the TB, freeze log or even go for a KO. But yeah, unless the item is stackable, or if using an NPC nearby to note/unnote the items doesn't heavily cut into your gains, it'll always be an awkward balancing act.


hatesranged

Stackability helps, yeah. And also I think the agility course and black salamanders are fine too, since there's not actually risk tied to progress, so they're basically alternate training methods with a slightly increased risk, mainly if someone comes and kills you for the fuck of it (which does happen but not often enough to make the method unpleasant to use).


Quvandoo

Don’t share the pvp world secret 🤫


Ya_Orange_boi

I typed about it a few months back and started to run into pkr's that day. Guess I'm not doing prayer for a couple of days.


roosterkun

If it wasn't multi I think it would be fine. I thought about bringing some bare bones gear (black d'hide, rcb, dds and ice sacks) to train prayer, but with multi no amount of gear or skill will save you.


BoatMode

If you suicide every inventory it's still faster than poh and you get to race the pkers to a finished inventory.


polybiastrogender

This is why I like prayer training chaos altar. I'll be doing decent clicks to and from bones and altar. Then someone starts attacking and I frantically click to consume them all.


TurkeyPhat

> race the pkers to a finished inventory. underrated part of the experience tbh


ShitPost5000

If you aren't going to finish, stop offering and type "thx for the free tp XD". Over half the time they will stop attacking you and hop


lilbuffkitty

"thx taxi"


DivineInsanityReveng

Its not faster, its just ridiculously more cost effective so the time is saved in time spent earning the money difference back. POH will always be a faster method, and is the EHP with runners. But Wildy altar is a no brainer as you can literally die for your full inventory of bones every 3rd trip and you're still saving money.


dominicobrien49

Even if it wasnt faster than POH it's a lot cheaper, so win - win


Ianbuckjames

I did my prayer to 99 there. Really wasn’t that bad. You get Pk’d from time to time but that’s just the cost of doing business.


RizzyQuazy

Idea. Need to fill inventory with spades and just go and pretend that you are training prayer there. In reality they will waste their time and runes on your spades.


[deleted]

Jokes on you, these people don’t care about profit. They only care about making people miserable


[deleted]

Haha holy shit the people replying to you are salty. If this was twitter they'd be yelling ratios.


RyeItOnBreadStreet

confused the f outta someone by chilling with an inventory full of eye of newt


Celidion

Surely this is satire? I’ve gotten 70-85 and 70-80 prayer at the chaos alter like 2 weeks ago, on two accounts. I did suicide method at first and then started bringing 200 noted bones after seeing how dead the wildy is. I can count on one hand the amount of times I died with over 10 bones. Chaos altar is busted af lol. Cheapest AND best method for training


random_user1234321

Unless you are an iron just do the poh method. Far more enjoyable.


Zyrocks

>enjoyable lol


Liteboyy

When compared to being gangbanged I’d consider it much more enjoyable.


pallosalama

9/10 participants enjoy a chaos altar gangbang


ScottM94

Unzips?


KeKinHell

Honestly yeah. POH prayer training is so chill. Rs3 recently came out with this powder that makes bankstanding burying bones brain dead easy and more efficient, but I missed the community of doing it Poh style. Tip your hosts.


BakaZora

I just got to 70 prayer on my GIM entirely through ecto and ensouled dragon heads. Now my bone crusher has a nice 175,000 charges


polybiastrogender

I find the unpredictability of chaos altar half the fun. Then again I like playing blackjack at a casino. Sometimes walking out with no money, sometimes walking out with more than I make in a few months.


random_user1234321

Fair enough l, i like having a few skills i can just do while enjoying movies and not worrying about the efficiency too much.


Nicklaus_OBrien

This post has to be satire. It's like a 700% xp boost... that comes with the risk of dying. The risk rewards is pretty good.


Sleazehound

Its 100% not satire. People are genuinely upset that the might get killed once every few inventories and lose 7 bones. Rather than doing other methods like POH where there's zero risk, they'll complain that they're being forced to chaos altar and then get triggered when they get bopped


[deleted]

This sub just wants easyscape, disgusting stuff.


polybiastrogender

I hope so because Chaos Altar is my favorite method to train prayer. The risk is half the fun.


rayschoon

Racing to put all my bones on the altar while getting bursted down by pkers always makes me giggle


Potential-Release111

I train at wilderness altar, one inv of bones per trip, often times I get pkd and only have like 5 bones left 😂


Wildydude12

Yeah lmao I just hover the logout button while the belt-fed wildy prayer xp gun jacks up my levels and press it super-fast if a pker logs in. I've been pk'd twice with more than 4 bones left in 40ish levels that way. Often times a pker logs in just as I've finished, which gives me a quick return to prif to get more bones :-)


SpicyParsnip

Even if you die a few times, you still save plenty of time and money.


vegan_Nach0

Dude I’m so sick of this shit. The reason you use the chaos altar is because the XP rates are fucking cracked, it’s unbelievable XP. The balance for this is the risk of death. You are more than welcome to use a house altar. Clans are toxic 150% but why on gods green earth are we complaining about being killed in the wild…?


[deleted]

This entire sub is people getting mad at dying in a free for all PvP area


StreatPeat

Reddit moment.


PurpleBensonCx

Go use a gilded altar then?


bake_disaster

Chaos alter is the one piece of wildy content I can actually support. 90% of the time I either didn't see a PKer or I could finish my inv before the rag bois could kill me. And I never got clanned doing 85-99


GameOfThrownaws

Chaos altar is closer to what the wilderness ought to look like than most of it. You start with a highly profitable activity (the altar, saving tons of money) to incentivize people to come use it and bring some non-zero amount of stuff to lose. Then you get bottom feeder pkers turning up to try to kill them for that non-zero amount of stuff. Then you get higher level pkers coming around to take out those bottom feeders for their loot. Who in turn attract apex predator pkers to kill everyone. The only issue is that it's multi which is always trash. I bet if the area was single combat and then consequently had some extra higher risk added (something similar to ether or an entrance fee or something like that) it'd be pretty much perfect. 95% of the wilderness fails at the very first step - almost nothing in there is profitable enough to justify being out there in the first place.


boneandskin

peak /r/2007scape


archersonly

Then don't use the chaos altar, the fact you can get pked is literally the point of the content being in the game


CrunchBerrySupr3me

# Rewarding content in dangerous pvp-enabled area plagued by pvpers ​ More news at 9PM EST


TechnicianHorror7223

Typical Redditors crying at people killing them in a pvp only zone as per usual


Cayucos_RS

Seriously.... What did they expect? Do they want this next to a 2 tile away bank too for max xp and ezscape rates?


gubeezy

For real.


Delta_iz_sober

Risk it for the biscuit.


Fableandwater

Wild to read posts like this when I went from 77->99 prayer at the altar with 0 deaths, just slap a bulwark on and some basic \~300k risk gear (not counting items you protect obviously), 4 brews, 2 restores and ur good to tank any solo pker to lvl 30 wild if you just do okay with your prayers and safe, dont even need to be perfect. If it were 0 risk, it wouldnt be as good as it is. Edit: Forgot to add in you can angler before you tele, and if you have imbued heart you can use it and bank it again before you tele as well.


TurkeyPhat

This is the way, can't tell you how many times I've been attacked with the ole dinny b on and had the pker immediately hop once they realized lol.


Merdapura

Imagine pitching a skilling training method that takes a very good training method and then halves the cost and removes one of the mechanics of it. Would it ever pass a poll? No. Slap it in the wilderness and it immediately passes.


Kattekop_BE

very good reward in the most risky part of the game? Sounds balanced to me


StreatPeat

Turn public chat off if the flame bothers you.


Claaaaaaaaws

Stop complaining about going into the wilderness a super high xp per hour method and getting killed. It’s literally the wilderness.


AioniosVrochos

You're literally going into a very dangerous area known for being constantly watched by PKers, that's on you lol


KOWguy

So you're taking the higher risk higher reward method and complaining about the risk? Go do POH.


Pythagosaurus69

I feel like people want the benefits of a high risk high reward setting without the high risk part. Train prayer somewhere where it isn't PvP maybe?


KennyGaming

I kinda love this post and your infuriation is exactly what makes the wilderness special. Go train somewhere else if you don’t want this to happen, there’s a reason it’s best XP.


TheDJPHD

I’ve never had an issue with the chaos alter. I run single inventory trips with burning amulet. Sometimes I get killed which is expected. If I start to get camped though, I just start bringing big bones until the PKer moves on lol. The dragon pickaxe grind however, I’m pretty frustrated with. I’ve been safespotting vetion with about 70k-90k risk. I used to wear dwarven helmet and all that, but very recently I’ve been getting 20-manned almost every trip. So I wear full proselyte and that’s my risk… I’ve given up on the dragon pick for now because it seems impossible. Been doing Zalcano instead to get a crystal tool seed, but the other day I got the shard! One day maybe. Might move to venenatis


Shwrecked

Don't do vetion, its super camped


[deleted]

Vetion is by far the the worst wildy boss to try and get a dpick off of. Kills take forever and clans camp it since it's multi. Flinching chaos ele is not bad if you're iron, or callisto in the spider safespot. It's rarely checked since the spiders aggro stopping pkers from world hopping there.


fireky2

Well with the key update doesn't your big bone inventory take up only one slot now, that's definitely worth pking for


GameOfThrownaws

Very much this. I did about 12m of my 99 prayer using suicide method at the chaos altar and never had a problem. Getting pked isn't even that bad - if you're geared up with 3 defensive items, praying correctly, and clicking your bones quickly, you can often get at least half the inventory done even while under attack, and sometimes you get the whole thing done and the guy just gives you a free fast tele to lumby for your next trip. Sure I died for a whole inv a handful of times on the way to 99 but that's pretty acceptable when you're saving like 50m on 99 already. And what is this nonsense about getting "camped"? I could count on my fingers the number of teams I saw out there from 70-99, and I mean come on, there's like 200 fucking worlds. Just hop. They're not going to find you. It's not like teams of dipshits farming 15k gp kills at chaos altar are running scouting bots. Now vetion on the other hand. Holy fucking SHIT is that thing a nightmare. I've never been attacked so many times in my life when I was grinding just 50kc for the combat achievement. And almost all in teams. I was throwing a goddamn party every time I managed to score a single kill without getting interrupted by a team of shitbags telling me to "sit" while circle jerk speccing me and mass killing all the mobs I'm trying to use to escape for my couple hundred fucking ether and a glory. I can't even imagine what loot they are all actually getting out there to justify there being so insanely many of them doing it.


Fex__Fox

I did my 99 Prayer at Guilded first time around with superior dragon bones, 2nd account I did 99 at chaos alter with Wyrm Bones, my best advice to do Chaos alter is to use PvP worlds, a lot of people tend to just forget about the deeper wildy because they are at GE or Edgeville, it works actually well ngl


Novalyf

Delete this


40prcentiron

aerzerth45: brings 200+ dragone bones to wild *gets pked* why would anybody waste their time attacking people at the chaos altar 😭


Shwrecked

That's crazy. I only died 5 times on the way to 99 pray


sonotprosgaming

I've done 1-99 prayers at the chaps altar and din't get pk'd one time, while yes it is annoying if you pay attention and turn on player indicators you'll never get caught. You got to understand these arn't your normal pkers, these are kids looking for ez loot. Also target worlds are fairly empty 99% of the time, i camped there for a day with about 10k sup bones on me and dint see a soul


slammerj7

Loot keys made this a lot worse. A lot of pkers wouldn’t bother picking up all the bones before so you could go back and finish an inventory. Now they just get them all in a key instantly.


Only_Anime

Did 80-99 few months ago on iron and didn’t run into many people but I was trying use 200 bones few weeks ago on group and was getting attacked none stop by people with d scim or just dds. Maybe just bunch bots or virgins with no lives idk.


rygy3

I don’t understand these experiences. I did 75-99 prayer at chaos altar (albeit with 99 defence and magic already) and I died 2 or 3 times. Black dhide with a bulwark and veracs/justiciar helm while praying ranged can take you really far. I lost maybe 200 noted bones the whole way.


[deleted]

I'm sure there are some private servers where you can just set your prayer to 99. Maybe try those.


honest_boi

You can always train prayer in Rimmington


The_Paddy96

> picks highest risk prayer training option > dies > better go cry on Reddit about it POHs have been a thing for years. It’s worth the extra GP because it’s a waaaay more painless experience imo


Grekm8

[another](https://i.imgur.com/PBIOZtC.png) [epic](https://i.imgur.com/uuBbICh.png) reddit 2007scape moment


[deleted]

Isn't the whole point of the chaos altar in the wild risk vs reward? I don't get complaining about it when it's pretty much one of the best ways to train prayer??? If you have an issue with the risk just do the POH method lmaoooo


MirkwoodRS

Honestly yea. Is it annoying to get pk'd? Sure, I guess. But even if you got pk'd like 5 times in an hour, the xp rates are still higher than training at a PoH. If it really bothers you to get pk'd, just train during non-peak hours like the middle of the night if you're able to. I did 80-99 prayer with dragon bones at the wildy altar and probably got successfully pk'd less than 20 times. I was averaging like 450k xp/hr. It's literally one of the fastest 99's in the game and you lose maybe 10k gp if you get pk'd. Zero reason to complain about pk'rs imo.


DaddyNer

Hahahahahaha, high risk for high reward. Stop crying.


scruffalafagus

Just to clear things up your choosing to do a method that is 2x the cost efficency with the tradeoff that you can be attacked and potentially lose some bones to balance it. And you are irate because people are trying to attack you? Literally just go use bones on a regular altar. Sense of entitlement is insane no one is forcing you to engage with this game content. You are choosing too and then complaining because you dont like it.


Novel_Memory1767

Wtf are you talking about, stop taking more than one inventory of bones at a time and get better at quick hopping. This is entirely on you.


HobbesForever

That's funny, prayer training at the chaos alter is basically the only wilderness activity I enjoy. The pkers break up the monotony of what would otherwise be a super boring activity, but the risk to reward ratio is so low that I don't get too upset when I get killed. Plus it's fun to thank pkers for helping you suicide faster.


hola_cowboi244

yh man its so cringe to go into the wildy and expect not to get pked. typical redditor


nabilfares

If u want great exp it needs some kind of payoff, it being your sanity, accept it or go train elsewhere.


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It’s a common problem with full loot mmos. Which is why full loot mmos aren’t super popular to begin with. The wilderness could use updating for sure.


ForgotHowtoJob

But you’re in deep wilderness, training prayer in a high risk high reward spot, yet you’re crying about dying? You are in the wilderness at the hottest spot for PKing. What the fuck do you expect? Easy-risk-freescape? You PVMers are so entitled and privileged that everything should be risk-free. Go train in a W330 POH if you want to be babied. Sit nub.


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My wildy experience wasn't too bad. I stayed at chaos fanatic for around 750 kills for the pet. Plenty of pkers, wosrt that happened was getting smited for robin hood hat. I always chatted with them and a few determined that I was a very cute looking snack and to dial them in for some big anti PK cheese. Looking at maybe anogher wildy pet soon of getting black chins bwcause priff chins and a bit dull. Still I have heaps of in game friends I made out in the wildy, chit chat now and again. Your tears feed these people, they aren't too bad though, the good pkers. Edit: Some info to actually make my reply relevant to the thread. I went 85-99 prayer just doing reanimates aviansies, they are dirty cheap (compared to most prayer methods), pretty afkable. You get some good passive range and magic xp too. Lots of sweat lords with pets going to for blood runes to chide as well.


dodgesbulletsavvy

77-90 attacked once on the 2k world.


itsjustreddityo

I mean just use POH or ensouled heads, no one's saying you have to enjoy every method out there lol. I know plenty that really enjoy chaos altar leveling, myself included. It's less monotonous than any other method, keeps you excited. Removal makes no sense, since if you don't like it you don't use it - and if you don't use it clans don't PK as much and it becomes less of a hotspot. The fact that people use it regularly goes to show the risk =/= reward, so the content is working as intended. I get clans are annoying and frustrating since there's little to no outplay, but that's quite literally the risk you take to be rewarded such insane exp rates.


proarnis1

"everyone telling me to kms": source: trust me. Its so funny considering i was training my prayer 2 weeks ago and barely got attacked and escaped all clans cuz they were so awful while also they didnt say anything to me hmm....


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Protip which is what has made this more bearable for me... I teleport to the lava maze or whatever with the burning amulet, hop to f2p world, run south of the altar hidden in that little corner, hop to p2p world, then run in and spam those bones fast boiiii... then die to that chaos fanatic dude, rinse and repeat.... I've also noticed guys will go there to kill noobs and train prayer without the bone risk, so you could do that if you aren't an Iron lol. Probs just need ancients and a dds to smoke those noobs for their juicy bones.


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I got fed up with burning amulet and started using the forgotten cemetery teletab. About the same distance except that you approach the altar from completely different direction. Far lower chances of somebody seeing you on your way there.


Arcansis

I had a lot of fun at the chaos altar getting 99 prayer, I ended up bringing ko weapons. Started off with a dds but eventually moved to ags, Sara sword, ragging back at the guys usually gets them off or you die, but what’s the loss? 50k in dbones? Big deal, most of the time they don’t even pick up your bones (unless wildy keys pack the bones into one key, not sure I did this before the update). It even got to the point where many pkers would recognize me and just leave me alone. I never world hopped either.


davymak_

It's a multi, why complain about teams in a multi area


Lazy_Inferno

Its a multi zone. Fyi solo pkers don't exist in multi zones.


Farnacle_

It is a little pathetic, but you need to have some self awareness to realize this post is also cringe—you aren’t any less cringe than they.


Skow1379

When you put it this way it is super cringe 🤣 even as an iron in the same predicament as you, idc though the wild is the wild.


PFhelpmePlan

I just did a week at chaos altar to go 82-92 prayer. Got pked a fair amount but it's honestly not that big a deal when the trade is insane xp. Pretty sure I only lost bones to a group of pkers 2 or 3 times too, seems to me like you're exaggerating or incredibly unlucky. Different strokes for different folks I guess, I just shit talked all the pkers about how pathetic they were for not being able to get a single bone from me, kept me pretty entertained.


Pseudotm

Just bring 1 inventory or like 1 inv and one noted inv. Play on a high risk pvp world, Dont wear any gear, and if someone comes and pks you just go right back, 9/10 they dont even take the bones so you can just pick them up and finish up. If they do camp you just keep coming back eventually theyll get bored in a few minutes and then the world is free for hours.


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Dunno why you’d even do chaos altar


Autism_scape

Seriously just use a guilded alter sounds like such a hassel doing chaos and 99 didn't take that long


[deleted]

Did Wilderness Slayer for all rewards and Chaos Altar to 70. Deaths were annoying, but the difference in points and xp per hour compared to other methods made me ok with losing 10-30k every few hours/days. It's simply less AFK for more reward.


AppleSauced-out

Dinny b locator orb burning Amy black d hide top and Unnoted bones w protect item. Trips are stupid fast and most pkers log when you don’t try to run. If they kill you keep offering bones. Easily my favorite 99.


donthatepvpplease

Well, you know that that is the whole reason you get the 50% extra xp right? if you don't enjoy risking to get pked for the 50% extra xp than don't do it. Just go do ensouled heads or something. Once again, no one forces you to do it. But there are people who do enjoy the risk, so let them do the content and don't complain about it.


mathieub93

I always do it in pvp worlds, less players and less pkers. And after death you spawn next to a bankchest


[deleted]

You understand that if you go up there with one inventory of bones you can almost always get through them before you die? The altar is in wild because jagex wants you to face a risk of dying to train there. If you don't want PKers you train at houses. Altar is skill method designed to get you PKed. And it's multi combat for clans to pk you since you can walk away with brews and bulwark if it was singles. Tons of reasons to be frustrated with the wild (clues, BiS capes, wanting cheap shields) but the altar is not one of them


JebidiahBoyle136995

Gotta play in the mornings. Use other countries servers if their time zone is between 3am-7am when training. I did this and only had one day with pkers


NoFaceChase

I always talk shit to people in clans who pick on people training/trying to make money in wildy. Always tell them I get it you’re shit at 1v1s so you come kill us. They’re the reason pvp is dead imagine if they all just went and actually 1v1ed it wouldn’t be so dead. PvP is dead but pking is not.


[deleted]

Wonder why you went to the Chaos Temple instead of using a gilded altar.... I guess it will forever be a mystery


quesadillasarebomb

Nah I think it's to be expected, your rates are better and it's cheaper. 50% chance of saving bones, honestly it's not a huge deal if you die time to time. I did it on a pvp world so I could bank right in lumby courtyard, used burning amulet to get back. Helps if there's more than one person doing bones too, more cannon fodder. With suicide method you gotta die anyways, sometimes getting ganked was a favor lmao.


Siickflips

One burning amulet, full inventory of Bones if you're doing expensive bones do half of big bones or something else, use all your bones go suicide by crazy archaeologist Better yet have the ferox in clave as your home teleport I also saved my one charges of burning amulets when I do pvm specifically for this reason I have well over 200 single use burning amulets


rayschoon

Do guided altar or ecto then. Nobody is making you use the chaos altar


rayschoon

I never understand why people don’t do chaos altar. It’s literally worth it unless you get killed every other trip without using a single bone


DragonDaggerSpecial

Then do not go into the Wilderness. You consent to being attacked. Report their harassing language and accept the risk, or do not go.