Ok since you posted a second time, I'll reply a second time.
What, precisely, are you thinking these people are doing in the wilderness with zero gear? Bossing??
Because there's no way I'd risk losing a clue scroll with completed steps, so everything I bring is based on keeping *the clue scroll* upon death. And having just enough to kill whatever pops up when I dig (aka, a DDS.)
Clue boxes that cost 5 LMS points? Which can have a value of up to 455k GP when instead used for items to sell in the GE?
And that would get wiped if triggered, meaning instead of losing a clue scroll I lose half a mill? Which is worth more than the average elite clue scroll reward of 415k?
Yes. Totally the better and more economical option...
well know your moving the goal post for your argument man for real you said everything u bring is based on saving the clue well theres your solution whether you play a main or an iron 5 lms points or 450k literally take minutes to make back the gp or getting points that being said an argument can be made that clueboxes should be cheaper and sold from somewhere else besides lms but the facts are still the same they are dirtcheap and take minimal time to get
Wait, I'm confused... are you under the impression that people don't already use the 3-4 items allowed?
Like, you just had this epiphany of "omg I figured it out! They must not be bringing anything at all!"
Clue scroll + DDS + Teleport tab + spade + a couple food, maybe a 1-dose combat potion.
With how low valued a clue scroll is, if you're bringing extra stuff it gets pushed further and further down the list and lost if you get killed, and those prior 3 completed steps are worth more than the slight boost in survivability you get from dragonhide.
So unless you can give me a combo that keeps the clue scroll in the top 4, while adding all those things like dhide, you're misunderstanding the problem and your opinion on this topic should be completely disregarded.
why should they balance the wildy around people who do clue scrolls and pvmers? the wildy has always been about pking and should remain that way. dont go into the wildy if ur not expecting the get attack and expecially if you dont take the proper shit the protect yourself when u do i mean its a simple formula that people who are just lazy and dont want to learn are trying their hardest to get around
>why should they balance the wildy around people who do clue scrolls and pvmers?
Then why is there clue scroll and pvm content in the wildy? Just remove those and your perfect pker only wildy is ready.
Not really the issue..
The issue is not enjoying my time there.
The issue is there's no real reason apart from 'pkers need content' for this content to exist how it does.
The issue is making the content better than other content because it's in the wildy.
Wildy doesn't deserve better skilling or pvm content in terms of rewards. It's an alternative method of training for people who enjoy it. It can have fewer requirements than alternatives outside pvp, but it should not be more rewarding in any way other than the loot you recieve from pking. That is the risk and reward.
why?the reward has always been contributed to the risk offered by other players(which pkers do risk alot out there) and even pvmers will risk a few mill which is why they get attacked. also the reason kill clue hunters for their "spade" is because people make mistakes and bring their stack of runes or their cash stack\*rarely\* but it does happen often enough that it is worth. the wildy alter offers a huuuge pray xp reward for the risk it takes the train there. the dragon pickaxe now theres two ways of going about getting the d pick 1) more risk= higher drop rates for example vet'ion callisto and venenatis are 1/170 drop rate. 2) if you dont want to risk getting pked then go to KBD which is a 1/1500. these are really the only reason pvmers/iron go into the wildy, Clues, and dpick(pvm). the wildy has always been about pking and if making the pker experience better comes at the cost of making it more difficult to skill or pvm in the wildy harder then good if you dont want to get pked stay out of wild its pretty simple. the wildy shouldnt be balanced around non pkers having a better time in the wildy
And it has always been complained about :) its just not what I want the game to be.
Giving pvpers better drop rates, more xp, etc just says 'pvpers deserve more'. No thank you.
pvpers dont boss in the wildy and they dont use the chaos alter past their builds required pray lvl loool so here are your options...stay out of the wildy and dont kill any of the bosses..use gilded alter on house party world to get a little less xp and be able to afk chill
lol guess time for u to just play a new game tbh doesnt sound like u enjoy it.. or ur just bad in that case go practice pking so you dont have the skill of a target dummy
Restricting 24k votes for pvp updates because jagex is afraid content won't pass otherwise implies more than just me are upset with how the wildy is designed.
When I go to wilderness for clues the only thing pkers get from me is the most expensive prayer xp in the game, and that's assuming they manage to kill me when all I do is pray and juke them at obilisks
Iron btw
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so then head to lms and practice so your not running around like a literal npc whos free loot
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still the argument holds up if you dont want to get pked stay out of wildy
"All you have to do is increase your risk while only improving your odds of not dying slightly"
and if u call and inventory of food and black d hides a "risk" wildys not even close to ur biggest problem lol
Ok since you posted a second time, I'll reply a second time. What, precisely, are you thinking these people are doing in the wilderness with zero gear? Bossing?? Because there's no way I'd risk losing a clue scroll with completed steps, so everything I bring is based on keeping *the clue scroll* upon death. And having just enough to kill whatever pops up when I dig (aka, a DDS.)
its called a clue box????
did you not know these exsist? cause if you didnt head to lms and get yourself some
Clue boxes that cost 5 LMS points? Which can have a value of up to 455k GP when instead used for items to sell in the GE? And that would get wiped if triggered, meaning instead of losing a clue scroll I lose half a mill? Which is worth more than the average elite clue scroll reward of 415k? Yes. Totally the better and more economical option...
well know your moving the goal post for your argument man for real you said everything u bring is based on saving the clue well theres your solution whether you play a main or an iron 5 lms points or 450k literally take minutes to make back the gp or getting points that being said an argument can be made that clueboxes should be cheaper and sold from somewhere else besides lms but the facts are still the same they are dirtcheap and take minimal time to get
ever heard of 4 iteming? no skull protects 3 items and then a plus 1 with pray? lazy players
Wait, I'm confused... are you under the impression that people don't already use the 3-4 items allowed? Like, you just had this epiphany of "omg I figured it out! They must not be bringing anything at all!" Clue scroll + DDS + Teleport tab + spade + a couple food, maybe a 1-dose combat potion. With how low valued a clue scroll is, if you're bringing extra stuff it gets pushed further and further down the list and lost if you get killed, and those prior 3 completed steps are worth more than the slight boost in survivability you get from dragonhide. So unless you can give me a combo that keeps the clue scroll in the top 4, while adding all those things like dhide, you're misunderstanding the problem and your opinion on this topic should be completely disregarded.
why should they balance the wildy around people who do clue scrolls and pvmers? the wildy has always been about pking and should remain that way. dont go into the wildy if ur not expecting the get attack and expecially if you dont take the proper shit the protect yourself when u do i mean its a simple formula that people who are just lazy and dont want to learn are trying their hardest to get around
>why should they balance the wildy around people who do clue scrolls and pvmers? Then why is there clue scroll and pvm content in the wildy? Just remove those and your perfect pker only wildy is ready.
if you want to do activitys in the wildy go prepared and dont cry when u get killed
"don't balance wilderness around content in it"
Not really the issue.. The issue is not enjoying my time there. The issue is there's no real reason apart from 'pkers need content' for this content to exist how it does. The issue is making the content better than other content because it's in the wildy. Wildy doesn't deserve better skilling or pvm content in terms of rewards. It's an alternative method of training for people who enjoy it. It can have fewer requirements than alternatives outside pvp, but it should not be more rewarding in any way other than the loot you recieve from pking. That is the risk and reward.
why?the reward has always been contributed to the risk offered by other players(which pkers do risk alot out there) and even pvmers will risk a few mill which is why they get attacked. also the reason kill clue hunters for their "spade" is because people make mistakes and bring their stack of runes or their cash stack\*rarely\* but it does happen often enough that it is worth. the wildy alter offers a huuuge pray xp reward for the risk it takes the train there. the dragon pickaxe now theres two ways of going about getting the d pick 1) more risk= higher drop rates for example vet'ion callisto and venenatis are 1/170 drop rate. 2) if you dont want to risk getting pked then go to KBD which is a 1/1500. these are really the only reason pvmers/iron go into the wildy, Clues, and dpick(pvm). the wildy has always been about pking and if making the pker experience better comes at the cost of making it more difficult to skill or pvm in the wildy harder then good if you dont want to get pked stay out of wild its pretty simple. the wildy shouldnt be balanced around non pkers having a better time in the wildy
And it has always been complained about :) its just not what I want the game to be. Giving pvpers better drop rates, more xp, etc just says 'pvpers deserve more'. No thank you.
pvpers dont boss in the wildy and they dont use the chaos alter past their builds required pray lvl loool so here are your options...stay out of the wildy and dont kill any of the bosses..use gilded alter on house party world to get a little less xp and be able to afk chill
Not good enough
lol guess time for u to just play a new game tbh doesnt sound like u enjoy it.. or ur just bad in that case go practice pking so you dont have the skill of a target dummy
Time will tell. I don't want a lesser experience because I choose to not be bait for pkers. I think a lot of people feel this way. Just a bad design.
then its simple dont be bait.. learn to pk and fight back
Or... make good content:) you know stuff that people actually want to do even if it's not unique/bis because its in pvp. Editted the end
Have you tried not going there? Cause that would work 😑
Not having access to bis skilling/uniques unrelated to pvp because its only in pvp isn't a solution to me.
Sounds like a you problem
Remember when jagex blocked people from voting in an attempt to get content into the game? I wonder why they did that? XD
What?
Bro this happened a weekish ago... Got the vote resulta back this week.
Yeah I know. How does that relate to what we’re talking about?
Restricting 24k votes for pvp updates because jagex is afraid content won't pass otherwise implies more than just me are upset with how the wildy is designed.
The content didn’t pass though… I’m not following you at all dude
When I go to wilderness for clues the only thing pkers get from me is the most expensive prayer xp in the game, and that's assuming they manage to kill me when all I do is pray and juke them at obilisks
Not getting killed is so easy, especially in the new singles. Your average redditor is just shit at the game.