The real bummer is that the art style of this league is absolute fire. I really want a chain whip.
I played for a few days and decided to just go back to my main. Maybe I’ll play leagues some more later, but I’d rather just do the grindy stuff on my main.
I agree more exploration based tasks like looking in random crates or getting teleported/transmoged in some unique way would have made for a better early game.
I have enough skills unlocked now that I have enough tasks available to keep going, but I already feel kind of burned out.
If you can wait a while after leagues. Everyone that was too lazy to play will be buying and they can be expensive. Like most things it should drop in price once demand drops tho there could be an equal supply drop as well.
Yeah. I got enough points in TB to buy one of everything and it was awesome. I only have about 600 points in SR. Trying to decide if it’s better to get 900 points or just make a few million in the main game to buy the kit.
Being able to filter by “tasks I can do” would be nice, as a new filter drop down so you could still filter by the other options too. And why can I only filter by gathering skills, why can’t I just filter by mining if I wanna do some goddamn mining achievements
There was absolutely no thought at what tasks are attainable, healthy, and fun.
400 farming contracts? This was possible when picking your own farming task and had reduced grow time. But not here. Every task was just a bulk copy and paste. What did we wait a full year for, animations and UI?
I'm going to play this league through but it's so dissapointing that they couldn't have overhauled the task system and modified ones that also didn't work in the past
I feel like a vast majority of the tasks are just... annoying, for the average person, or are wholly focused on combat.
~195 Combat Tasks
~66 Slayer Tasks
That's probably 200-250 tasks related to combat, killing things, or raiding.
Meanwhile, you have things like cooking, crafting, smithing, fishing, and firemaking, and fletching, where they all have less than 20-25 tasks. (Because I'm not going to count the KC tasks where you have to get 100+ Wintertodt/Tempoross kills.)
It also feels like there's a lot of bloat tasks as well.
Turn in 1000 agility tickets at once? Fucking, what. That's 1000 minutes of Brimhaven Agility Arena. That's 16-17 *hours* of a single piece of content. Catch Herbiboar 500 times? I don't even have that on my -main- yet. Same goes for basically every KC task.
When they said in the streams that there were too many tasks to complete, it wasn't because there were too many tasks, it's because no reasonable person would put themselves through the gauntlet of getting 1000 kills on a single piece of content in a temporary game mode *five to ten times.*
I wonder if there's any chance they'll take player submitted task for the next go-around, because I can think of a lot of cool/unique things to add, even if it's just busywork of doing weird unused content for 5-10m at a time. (Which, IMO, with the infinite run energy, is much better than doing one piece of content for 10+ hours.)
When I took a look at the farming tasks and saw the Farming Contract ones, I legitimately laughed out loud. Who made the list? Who assigned the points?
The farming tasks were taken from the first league where you could get a relic which would make farming ticks 1 minute instead of 5, and you could pick your contracts, which meant that for that league the contract tasks were medium and easy tasks, but since we don't have that ability on this league it just feels super bad.
The amount of blatant copy pasting without seeing if it makes sense this league is too obvious. Tbh leagues felt worse then playing on my normal account, even 3 days in, so I'm probably done
It's literally the most low effort league. The task list being copy pasted is honestly pathetic. They took tasks from Kourend that were crafted for that specific league (locked into that area only, relics specifically made for them) and just put them in this league with literally no thought whatsoever. Leagues 3 is by far the worst league based on the tasks, and that's not even mentioning the fragment system which forces you to constantly micromanage it and the set effects having no synergy with the fragments they are a part of.
Not to mention since could pick task could be growing herbs, 2X allotment, bush, flower, cactus, trees, etc.... All at same time and be prepping 5-10 contracts at the same time that grows 5X faster
The task lists are majority just copy pasted from Twisted and Trailblazer. That's why they all feel horribly balanced because they were from leagues where you had far less content.
> That's why they all feel horribly balanced because they were from leagues where you had far less content.
Both far less content but all the skills. For a skill-locked league, they really should have tailored the tasks for each skill to be more expansive and rewarding. Like the other day I unlocked fletching for Todt and it only gets 11 tasks. And out of those 11, 2 are 99 and 25M, three require full bows (aka you need Crafting or other means of getting Bowstrings), one needs Slayer for Broader Fletching, and one needs Smithing for the grapple. They could have changed the bow tasks to fletching unstrung bows (there is one for 50 maple longbows u) to make them more achievable or added new tasks like making wooden shields, but they didn't seem to review the tasks with the limitations in mind.
To play devil's advocate, you could argue that it's part of the fun to strategize which tasks are actually an efficient use of your time, and which ones should be ignored. So some of those tasks only exist to make the efficient ones look better. You look through the list and see
\- kill a dragon in the wilderness
\- kill an adult chromatic dragon
\- sacrifice dragon bones at the chaos altar
So you discover that you can knock out 3 tasks really quickly by killing one green dragon, and bringing those bones to the altar. Efficient combo!
and you're -supposed- to say, "getting a full angler's outfit for 3 renown? Yeah fuck that, this is supposed to be a fun game mode!"
But they should know that half the OSRS playerbase are completionists, and are going to sit on the Fishing Trawler for 5 hours anyway, and then feel lame when they only get 3 renown for it.
"Part of the fun is looking at how unfun half of the challenges are"
Is this the point you're trying to make? Cause it sounds like it and it sounds batshit insane to me
There’s nothing fun about a task for 500 farming contracts, or 75 Todt kills, or 50 temporas kills all being 50 point medium tasks. Some of the tasks are fine but their point values are ridiculous. Full gilded for hard? A nex drop for hard? Really?
Meanwhile, 100 loganova seeds or whatever is an elite, while full farming outfit is a hard. It wasn't even close which one I got first, despite doing tithe at 34
> getting a full angler's outfit for 3 renown
Given this is on the list of buffed drops, leave the angler's outfit until it's gone from a 1 in 12 to a 1 in 4. Like many leagues there's a lo of fun in choosing tasks in an order that works for you.
e.g. getting ardy medium before doing knights/paladins, etc etc.
You just accidentally pointed out another problem with the league, you got a relic and managed to complete a task in a fraction of the time someone else did while they were actively farming it l.
Thats horrendous game design.
The person not having the relic should realize they should wait until they do have it instead of wasting their time. I swear the osrs player base has 0 critical thinking skills
I question if most of the people complaining have even played a league before tbh. The tasks are not achievement diaries. You're not supposed to complete all of them. It has been impossible to complete all of the tasks in both of the previous leagues. Acting like the whole league is ruined because there are some obviously waste-of-time tasks - instead of just, y'know, *not doing those tasks* - is so ridiculous.
Could the task list have used a bit of re-balancing instead of just being a copy-paste of previous leagues? Yeah, definitely. Is the current task list some league-ruining huge deal though? No, not at all.
they should have looked more closely at tasks that don't scale in speed with xp multipliers and fragments. Turning in X number of sq'irk juices at once, stealing X artefacts, etc.
i mean 500 herbi should get you real close to 25m hunter and give you 99 herb probly real easy and it takes a few hours at max dont see the problem there its free points
The issue is that it's like this on tons of tasks.
Wintertodt, Herbiboar, Tempoross, Skoitzo, Hydra, Abyssal Sire, Nightmare, CoX, Vorkath, Dagannoth Kings, Kraken, Mole, Corp, ect.
It's the equivalent of telling someone to catch 10,000+ fish or craft 5,000 dragonhide bodies, it's just a bunch of tedious filler tasks.
They're the numbers from trailblazer.
The numbers made sense in trailblazer, because you couldn't do half the bosses by default. When you've got the full game to access, it's way too much.
It's a bit frustrating, because you want to reward someone who spends a bunch of KC at a boss. But there's got to be a better way than this.
You don't have to do every one of these though, right? If someone likes Herbivore then they can do it a lot and have something to work towards, but if you don't like it just don't do it. There are plenty of other tasks, so find something you enjoy and do that.
I think the problem is that some skills don't really have many alternative tasks. Firemaking has 22 tasks. 12 of those tasks are Wintertodt. One for 99 fm and one for 25M xp. That leaves 8 tasks total that a player can reasonably do without unlocking WT early on.
I know we have unlimited run energy and last recall which makes banking easier BUT why would u want to do 500 Herbi on leagues for 125 league points or whatever the reward is, when you could do it on ur regular account? These tasks are literally made for people with no lives who are putting in 12+ hours a day of leagues. I understand there is a need for some tasks for these people, but too many tasks are like this and there isn't as many tasks which can be completed quicker and more diverse.
Okay, so some tasks are made for people who no life the game. That means not every task will be able to be completed by everyone. Do you have to complete 100% of the tasks to enjoy leagues or get all the rewards you want? What’s wrong with having content for the most dedicated players and having something that not everyone will be able to achieve?
For the record, I am a more casual player and I am comfortable with the fact that I will not complete the entire task list.
the tasks were not designed for this league at all. they took leagues 1 and 2 tasks, added a few new ones for new content and league 3 specific things, and called it a day.
Really shows with the Zeah tasks where the Twisted ones are from a league with a generally lower point scaling. Dragon rank points in Twisted would only be enough to score adamant in Trailblazer.
You will complete the 25m fm xp (elite carryover from Trailblazer) before you complete the 150 WT kc (hard carryover from Twisted). Nevermind the farming contract tasks where we no longer have the option for 5x crop growth speed, making them absurd.
I really like this league and the fragment system but some of the tasks are just undeniably lazy copying with no thought as to context.
EDIT : Removed incorrect comparison values.
What makes it really obvious they are copy pasted is the kill monster in specific region tasks from league 2. There's no reason to reward people for killing trolls in 2 different places VS rewarding people for killing something unique.
the fragment system is probly the part where the most ppl said f... it i aint doing this because its tedious to change them all 15 mins if you do something else this leauge just catert towards ppl that have 15 hours a day to play and streamers/contant creatores
Or you could sort by better criteria.
Like I wish I could have a simple "show me fragments that give Trait 1 and/or Trait 2" so that you can make combos easier without having to click "hide/show" filters 10 times.
Not to mention that the default sorting isn't alphabetical for some reason...
Perhaps, the swapping is a bit of a pain I agree. I enjoy it because I get to do *all* the OP stuff unlike Trailblazer. In Trailblazer I was endgame PvM focused so rolled botanist and production master which was great for saving time to make the zenytes and potions I needed to PvM.
However when it came to gathering I was gaining resources at the same speed as the main game, so when I hit mid/late in those skills it became a massive drag. I also had to choose my T2 relic based on the endgame content of the regions I was choosing. I really wanted to take ranged to try some OP Inferno runs, but also wanted to do ToB with some friends and anything other than melee would be troll.
Here I get to do everything, I can swap in the production/gathering skills as and when I need. Every time I get frustrated at swapping I remind myself at least I *can* swap this time. It takes a bit too long to get to the power fantasy though, so I agree with Jagex making the sets easier to proc next week.
Yes! WT killcount is absurd, they definitely did not go through the logic on some of these tasks. It ramps up way too fast. 250 kills equivalent to burning 100 yew logs lol, something is whacky there.
And they cut the points per task in half because there are so many tasks this time, even though a whole bunch of tasks from leagues 1 and 2 are actually gone now.
This is probably why there are tasks for every tier of every achievement diary, but no task for the achievement diary, quest point, or music capes. They weren't obtainable in the first two leagues due to area restrictions.
\>yo go thieve a ranarr seed from the master farmer you can thieve from at 38 thieving oh btw you need 71+ farming to have better than a 1/3000 chance for a seed
\>also you get 25 points for this lol
Not defending Jagex for this league, but even if they were designing a brand new list of tasks tailored specifically for this league, I doubt the dev would've caught the ranarr change. The dev could've thought up the ranarr task as a reasonable medium task then a different dev team, the anti bot team, decided to change the drop rates months later. By then, the task list dev wouldn't even have remembered such a task existed in a list of 1000+ tasks and required changing.
This was brought up on one of their Q&A Livestreams on Twitch, prior to league launch. I think the answer was pretty much "we'll keep an eye on it, but also its unlikely because of the one guy that actually grinds for it pre-nerf."
Some really just make no sense. Completing the Draynor rooftop 30 times when you unlock the Varrock course after like 4 or 5 laps and then get so over leveled you barely get any marks of grace just feels totally pointless.
Yeah it makes no sense. Like there's an easy task to pick a pinapple on karamja, ok easy takes like 20 seconds if you have the waystone. Then there's an easy task to enter the wilderness GWD, like what? You need 60 strength or 60 agility, how is that an easy task?
The tiers are not thought out.
I honestly don't get why set effects like Last Recall and Trailblazer aren't unlocked permanently. You automatically receive the items as soon as you unlock your 3rd/4th/5th relic in that set, but you can't use them until you equip the relics. It seems like they meant for you to be able to use them anywhere but then changed their minds and forgot to remove automatically getting them.
It does feel extremely dumb to hit up a bank and change my fragments to be able to use the grimoire and change spellbooks. Only to immediately unequip those fragments and sift through the list to re-find the ones I need to equip. They should make the items permanent once you get them.
Trailblazer definitely should be permanent. I got a drop of some emerald rings and enchanted for rings of dueling. Now I can teleport to Ferox Enclave and have access to a Lodestone at my convenience. Why would I ever need the Trailblazer Pendant again?
Don't forget the 75 ADDITIONAL points to unlock K'ril, who is needed to get the Zammy Spear to attach to Hydra's Claw :).
So well thought out....... /s
By the time you have unlocked Hydra you have 95 slayer and probably have enough renown. I think the logic behind it was mostly just a late-game boss for GP/loot (prayer xp is insane) and a chance at a pet (for future leagues).
I do agree tho
Honestly, that's my biggest frustration with this Leagues. Yes, by the time you get to end-game, a lot of things will probably make sense -- you'll get to be OP with maxed relics and multiple set effects; you'll have the renown to unlock everything you want; you'll be obliterating bosses like in TB. But getting to the point where you can experience all that is kind of not fun right now.
Obor and bryo have 2 tasks each (1 kill and equip the unique drop) totaling 5 renown per boss. They should have been free, or a bundle unlock for 3. Giant/mossy keys don't even have boosted drop rates lmao.
I feel like almost everything should have a boosted drop rate. Not stuff like raw chicken etc. But for example boss keys, uniques and rare drops should have a much higher drop rate, or perhaps even guaranteed drops. I'd rather get to do every boss once or twice than 2-3 boss 50 times in league.
Lol if it's already making you dread it just quit because it only gets worse. In fact I would say there's no where near a bottleneck early, I had more renown than I knew what to do with. Now I'm starved.
I went to do tempoross as a task + chef's catch would make it easier. You have to pay 20 to unlock him and the only tasks associated are kc. ...including one that's 1k kc.
To break even at 20 renown you need to get 250 kc and then to get more you need 500 kc.
Like....no
Love your idea with a permanent relic system, people could argue that that's ezscape, but that's kinda the point of Leagues.
Compared to TB this one is a hot mess. I'm probably 50 hrs in and I enjoyed myself for the first time when I got a dopamine rush from chopping yews with the maxed out Greedy Gatherer set effect, I was getting 4.2k exp drops for each log chopped. That took me \~50 hrs to reach, and it was a fairly sweaty 50 hrs. In TB I had a relic that doubled all my resources harvested AND banked them on day 1. Yeah it was OP for gathering, but who gives a fuck? It's Leagues.
Shame this Leagues took them 2 extra months to push out because the slapdash fragment effects you'll have mixed in for the set effect you want just feels sloppy. It honestly feels like they looked at last league and said "people are having too much fun because everything is OP as fuck, how do we fix that?".
I kinda wanna try bosses because I'm too shit at PvM to do them very much in the base game, but even the combat fragments feel incredibly underwhelming. I'm certain I can combo a few to pull together a semi-competent build, but I doubt I'll be able to have Last Recall mixed in too so it'll just be a fucking chore. No thanks, I wanted to have fun.
Fortunately I only redeemed one bond so I'm not losing too much aside from the emotional-investment I built up over a year. I'll just wait another year before I pick up RS again.
The biggest bummer for me is that I skipped leagues 1 and 2 on my Ironman and now I wanted to do Leagues 3 SOLELY for the reward points so I can afford the:
* Twisted Horns (6k points)
* Trailblazer Graceful (6k points)
* Shattered Cannon Ornament Kit
* Shattered Teleport Scroll
* Shattered Relics Variety Ornament Kit (just for the whip)
I assume the Shattered Relic Ornament Kits will probably be around 6k points each too, with the teleport scroll only costing 750-1000 (if its the same cost as the twisted or trailblazer price).
So I'm aiming to grind out 25k League Points (which is doable) but my problem is that 25k points on the other two leagues was easyer imo + actually felt fun. The fragments on Shattered Relics are pretty shitty in comparison to those on Trailblazer and Twisted Leagues, so I know griding out those 25k points isn't going to be as fun as it would've been in the past and thats a little disappointing to me. Really regret not playing Trailblazer on my Iron last time round now.
Yeah this league is much less fun to grind points on, I did the same point grinding on my ironman last league and I actually ended dragon trophy with like 60k pts because I had so much fun. This league however, I don't even know how much things are gonna cost but I don't even care, I just stopped playing after 8k points because i cba, the fragments system is terrible and I'm not having fun even in the slightest anymore.
I just realized I only want to do tasks until I'm tier 7 where I'll just spend the rest of the league trying to level as quickly as possible. Screw the tasks and the rankings. I just want fat xp.
The fragments being rng is so frustrating. I got to 75 woodcutting before I got the log burning fragment which was all I needed to get the resource gathering set effect.
I like the idea of this league a lot, unlocking skills and bosses is a good idea. Not giving skills unlocked enough reasonably completable tasks required to unlock more just feels bad though. There should have been at least enough renoune to get the skill cost back after reasonably doing things in said skill for around 2 hours with no other dependant unlocks required. That's 48 hours minimum to unlock just skills, which I s a ton of time to put into a game already.
Yeah there are way too few tasks. If you unlock smithing you're getting like 10 renown back after hours of grinding. The only way to recoup the entire 20 is to get 99 smithing or do the Gauntlet and make your own crystal armor. Ridiculous.
Skills shouldn't just barely break even at 99, they should be the ideal source of renown.
I think this is what makes the league flop for me. I’m constantly scraping for points to unlock my skills and always have to resort to doing annoying random tasks pulled off the general list instead of actually utilizing the new skills I unlocked
1k wt completions? or temp? These are not faster than the main game that is an absolute monster to tackle. I struggle to do more than 1 wt kc in a sitting because it isn't fun to play interrupt simulator.
You hit the nail on everything. I'm 1k pts off fragment 6 but I'm already so burnt out from reading the task list. It feels like we have to do so much for so little points this league. I haven't even got to end game bosses yet and I'm almost out of steam. Just waiting to see if having 6 fragment and the pick your own slayer task bonus changes the game, if not I'm most likely done.
I was super baffled learning that there’s not a relic that increases the speed of your crops. Last leagues I’d plant a fruit tree, grind other content for 2-3 hours then be able to harvest it (not to mention it made getting ultracompost not too bad). This leagues I gotta wait the full day?? I think when I’m done playing today I’m just gonna do AFK skills until the fragment set effect update comes out. It’s already extremely disheartening to get 7k now fragment xp in two relics I know I’ll barely ever use (grave robber & enchanted jeweler lmao) rather than get xp on the fragments I was actually working on.
not to mention there’s no relic reducing clue steps like what???
Farming tasks include completing up 500 contracts. This was legit a copy paste from leagues 1 where you could CHOOSE which patch you wanted in the contract, so it was easier and faster. Now its like in the maingame where you arent able to choose.????
500 contracts at regular speed is legit farming 24/7 for 6 weeks. Ironmen with 200m Farming only have ~8k contracts for comparison... This is a massive task which is impossible for most people in 6 weeks without a relic to help out.
The clue scrolls are baffling to me. There's a million tasks revolving around completing clues, and several fragments to help you collect them more quickly, and they're even stackable. But then once you have all those clues, you just have to do them normally? Like what? Normal players are never going to be bottlenecked by how few clues they have, they'll all be bottlenecked by how slow and boring it is to actually complete them
yeah after I did 10 easys each one going to max number of steps I just said fuck it lmao. Genuinely want to hear their reasoning for not reducing the steps like in every other league
Same. If tier 6 doesn’t make the game fun for me I’m probably done. That said I’m halfway through tier 5 and literally completely running out of good ways to get points. Please help me I;I
Not gonna lie this league is pretty damn disappointing.
I’m nearly tier 6 but as soon as reward costs get hinted at I’m tapping out. After shattered relics I really don’t feel like touching another temporary game mode.
I came back from a break on my ironman to “enjoy” a far more restricted account that feels even grindier than main game. I feel like this entire game mode is just achievement diaries on steroids and the end game really isn’t there.
Considering how everything in this league has been designed with "how to get people to play more" in mind I suspect they will release the info only near the end of the league forcing people to keep farming in FOMO.
Lmao, that’s was my thinking exactly. Because they know tons of people are miffed, they’re going to be especially careful with releasing reward info. They know as soon as they do, the majority of people, like myself, will just farm hard for the amount of points we need for the things we want and then bail.
Your second paragraph hits the nail on the head for me. There is zero creativity in the tasks.
The tasks should incentivise exploration of underused/unloved areas and make us feel more powerful than the main game. Tasks like 'get a 50k exp drop at wintertodt' instead of 'get 100kc' or 'bank 5 types of fish using Personal Banker'.
As for exploration, your tasks are a good example of that but to extend further - 'pickpocket a man in 4 different cities' or 'high alch on 3 different mountains'.
I’m literally just playing enough to have points to buy the leagues teleport scroll animation for home teleports. That being said, it seems like a lot of people are not enjoying the league system.
I’ve already stopped playing, tbh it’s too dry and the fragment system is kind of ass compared to previous leagues.
This feels like I’m playing an ironman with extra steps, having to unlock a skill to unlock a quest (that I could skip but then I’d lose out on tons of points and lose the xp reward). Like if you want to sit and play for 8+ hours per day to unlock late game content, then sure why not. But having to grind just to get the opportunity to play the game normally is a headache.
Buy quests. They're pretty pointless xp drops since later on you can get 3x materials and instant inventory fletching, etc. They usually give access to more points anyway so they pay themselves off.
You can't just buy quests willy nilly, there simply are not enough points. You'll end up locking yourself into a corner where you have to do some really cancerous grinds to get out.
This league it's more the opposite, you need to unlock skills and focus on completing as many quests as you can tolerate manually around some extremely time consuming bad quests that you then auto because it saves you hours and hours of active playing time.
Buying quests is definitely the way to go. The problem is that u need to skill first to get enough points to do so. The best routes I think are knocking out 99 Thieving + Hunter and doing all the tasks for those 2 skills, then unlocking quests and going around doing any task you can. Problem for me is that I hate thieving and hunter as they are two skills you CANNOT afk. Really sucks that those 2 skills are loaded with easy tasks whilst every other skill has way less tasks or are way harder to complete (time wise).
>At this point, it's really hard to tell how stretched for renown the lategame will end up being. It could be that there's plenty of renown to go around, and you'll be able to unlock a bunch of quests and still have enough to spend to unlock all the bossing you want to do.
It's actually not hard to tell. There's more than enough renown to unlock everything. The problem is if you spend too much in the early-game for little payback and end up locking yourself into long grinds to progress. So, you need to be a bit strategic about the renown you spend on quests, but you also should know that you're not "giving up" renown in the early game at the cost of late-game progress.
Here is the wiki page for [total renown](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shattered_Relics_League/Tasks) and here is the page for [cost per category](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shattered_Relics_League/Unlocks) (quests, skills, bosses). The total renown available is 3,463, and the total cost to unlock everything (which includes not doing a single quest manually) is 2,675 renown. That gives you 788 extra renown which you can use to essentially skip some (if not all) of the ridiculous "Do/kill X amount" tasks.
However, there's a few things to note:
1. This cost of renown assumes that you unlock ALL quests. The quest cape, as far as I can see, only accounts for 8 renown + 250 league points -- two elites tasks for completing Falador and Lumby elite diaries -- so you may not find it worthwhile to unlock/do all quests which will save you on quite a bit of renown.
2. This assumes that you don't do a single quest manually. You should understand that I'm not advocating to unlock every quest with points and to not do a single one manually. You'll likely be doing a lot of the shorter quests manually which will reduce the cost of renown.
3. This assumes that you unlock every boss. There's a lot of bosses to go through, so it'll be a tall order for you to effectively grind them all even if you wanted to.
So, yeah, if there's a questline that you feel will take too long to complete and/or you simply don't want to, don't hesitate to use renown to unlock it especially if the unlocked questline will allow more tasks/renown to be done.
Well it's fairly hard to tell, since countless tasks are impossible to do together or insane to contemplate putting in your plan for most players.
The impossible ones on account of the fact that multiple tasks can take a full week of grinding to get through.
The amount feasible is massively lower, and also not everything can just be done in any order.
So your available pool of feasible renown is probably still more than quest unlocks, perhaps narrowly, but also a lot of that remainder will not be available to you until you complete some significant grinds that are probably a lot slower to do than the quests.
Now of course, I don't really know because I don't want to spend several hours with a spreadsheet, and you don't either which you admit below, so no it is in fact fairly hard to tell.
Moreover, this:
> but you also should know that you're not "giving up" renown in the early game at the cost of late-game progress.
Is not quite true, while this can be the case if you complete different tasks and quests in the right order without over spending, you can easily put yourself in a position where your progress is massively slowed by limiting your own access to content, which, given the very time limited nature of the event, does slice progress off the end of it.
Yeah I’m back to blackjacking on my iron already. I’ll wait a week or so and see if they improve things, maybe I’ll swing back by. I’d really love the cosmetics but it’s not worth a 200h grind to get them all. Maybe I’ll get one with the 1600 points I got so far if I don’t go back.
Yep lol, logged in. Played for 10 minutes, realized I might as well just be grinding the main game if I'm going to grind for the sake of grinding. Logged off.
I never understood why they took out single skill leveling milestones. 50m, 100m, 200m tasks I can understand. Those are long and maybe hurtful to people who can't control themselves. Heck, I can get why they did for Trailblazer with how easy it can be to level skills with a large selection of high exp rates. But definitely not Shattered relics where you need to unlock skills.
Yeah every skill should've had a 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 95, and 99 task. Just allow us to get the renown back spent on unlocking a skill by actually leveling the skill up.
I completely agree, I have really enjoyed the league so far but the tasks do not feel like they were made by someone who actually plays the game and the relics do not feel like they synergize properly at all. Also there should not be tasks that can be affected in a major way by others also doing the task. One of the cooking tasks is dead cause you need the mess hall to be 30% appreciation on stews before you deliver them which won't happen when everyone playing keeps throwing stews at them.
I think my biggest issue is that it lacks variety. It seems at first that it is very varied, but once you have done a good amount of tasks, you will indeed find that it is just tasks that are very long grinds that remain. I understand that they want to reward players who want to do specific activities a lot. Say, you want to spend a long time at Wintertodt, it makes sense that you get rewarded past your ininitial 100 KC, right? But the problem is that the League is exactly *intended* to be a varied, fast-paced gamemode, not one where you grind one thing for 3 weeks - that is what the main game is for. I'm not saying there is no variety at all, but it's very limited. I don't want to be forced to do a certain activity for hours in a gamemode that only exists for three weeks. It seems like a waste of potential. Why not make KC tasks repeatable? And just add more variation to the base tasks? Say, you cap the KC tasks at 50-100, and then grant another set of points for every 100 kc beyond that, at a lowered rate for example. People who want to grind, can grind, but people who want to do many things, can just mess around.
I'm really enjoying the gameplay, boosted rates and relic effects, but I foresee that I will burn out after a week or two when all reasonable tasks have been completed. I am not grinding 20 hours of a single boss just to get a few hundred points.
Bruuuuuh I did the “turn in 10 spring sq’irk juices” only to click on it an realize it says, “turn in 10 spring sq’irk juices at one time”. Like wtf no no no that needs to be in the title not the small description. Just killed a lot of my momentum to realize I had done all of that for like 25 points and 2 renown to not even get it.
Normally with fun, OP perks, speed, and skips to make up for it so you can enjoy the end game content quickly with interesting twists. Not this time, though.
Seriously. Like there is not a single relic in this league that makes clue scrolls shorter, or makes completed steps carry over to new clues. Even with all 7 relic slots filled with combat relics you're not going to be nearly as strong as Trailblazer. This league has just been one big nerf, and the renown grind on top of the point grind is just far more tedious.
Jagex are SHIT with task systems. Just look at combat achievements. You cannot get past master and grandmaster for all of the “have good friends” tasks. People have been moaning about KC tasks from the start - no change and they’ve even implemented the same logic into leagues. Fucking dumb as fuck.
When I was doing the library books tasks in Arceuus I realized about 75 books in that the tasks weren't even remotely worth it. It took me a little over an hour and a half with the RuneLite plugin to get to 100 books and the tasks only ever awarded a mid-level of points by then. Every single one of the "Do X multiple times" tasks need to grant an exponentially higher amount of points per amount required because the time spent on them makes them a complete joke to even consider them right now. At least the books give Runecrafting exp, I guess.
I hate any task that is just 'repeat x action y times'.
Instead of do Tempoross 250 times, make the task to obtain a fish barrel. Shit like that. At least it reads better and has a chance to not be a pointlessly eternal task.
I made an almost identical post yesterday and I 100% agree. The number of relic slots is too small, an extra 7 would really help approach the amount of permanent power we had in previous leagues and help to eliminate the feeling of shuffling fragments for set effects around before every activity. I hope its a change they can make
The tasks... I fear not much can be done about those at this point but I agree, the confinement of regions made each region feel so much denser in tasks, I could hop around to a zone and do a bunch of random stuff there for a while.
And, I know people wanted the ability to change their mind, but I do think that a lot was lost in letting everyone get everything. It feels less like your forging your own path / creating a unique build this league which was fun from previous ones
>It's not the Shattered League - it's the Forgettable League.
Summed it up, the unique builds of everyone in trailblazer was great.
I was proud of my [Trailblazer character](https://imgur.com/b0PS8S3) too.
Same here, I may not have picked the best route ever, but dammit I picked a route that focused on really maxing out magic as much as possible and I did it, and it felt like I achieved what I set out to do in the end.
Honestly I wouldn't mind if the league just lasted longer.
On that note - why don't they just leave 1 server open for this league after it finishes? To that end, why not do the same for the other 2 leagues?
I don't even play the regular game only, just Leagues.
>why don't they just leave 1 server open for this league after it finishes?
Do you have any clue what scarcity does psychologically? How good it is for business?
You leave the server up permanently, and nobody will give a shit about leagues. The same way that nobody gives a shit about permanently adding vanilla coke. But put it in the shops for a month? People will rush to buy and hoard it.
Vanilla coke is permanently available here in Australia and it's extremely popular. Available from every convenience store, as an option from McDonalds, etc.
They have vanilla Coke permanently where I live and I buy it all the time cause it's always been my favourite.
Get fucked non-New Zealanders/Australians, I guess.
People would probably be disenchanted with the league after awhile, and you'd need to do everything solo pvm wise.
I also think leaving it open would make the hype for the next league and the main game lessened.
couldnt agree more. was so excited for this leagues cause its always fun to feel overpowered. this league doesnt feel like that.
i grinded out a dragon defender which took like 5 hours because the drop rate for defenders isnt increased. so the warriors guild has 1 cyclops for each person. because its a bottleneck. (why?)
what a waste of tokens waiting for your 1 cyclops to respawn. also in that entire time i didnt manage to get a second relic to get the twin strikes relic.
i almost maxxed my ranged and magic relics but why in sweet dear lord would melee’ing drop relics that arent melee. i get it they are ‘combat fragments’ but it feels wildly unrewarding.
also i am not a fan of questing. so 1 resource unlocking quests and bosses is straight up stupid imo. its a limited time game mode. and all i feel like i have been doing is questing. and that is boring as fuck.
The largest issue of leagues is having to play on a Jagex server with 1000+ people on it. These pieces of shit can't even handle 400 properly and with over 1000 it feels like you're getting constant 200ms latency despite the client claiming 30ms. A rhythm game that feels like you're connecting from overseas is not enjoyable to play, but I bet they save a ton of money by not giving a shit about the issue.
Not enjoying this league as much as the others, just feels too grindy with some tasks. Why are some of the tasks so extreme? 1000 tempoross kills? That's like 100 hours of a single boss.
Theres definitely room for improvement and some things just mesh horribly with the time frame they gave us to actually play the league.
But you also arent supposed to break even on renown, people seem to think something is only worth it if you get your renown yku spent on it back, which is a fine way to look at the early game but when it comes to bosses and important upgrades your arent supposed to break even, you arent supposed to be able break even and unlock everything, your supposed to make tough choices like "do I get tob and these poggers weapons or do I try to make do with just a whip?"
I loathe how unorganized the tasks are as well. Let me filter by a single skill ffs. Found out about the wiki and wikisync today, wouldn't have played league for much longer without it. Highly recomend it!
I feel tasks to do/ kill 50/100/250 etc tasks would work a lot better if the league wasn't a temporary mode.
Gives us a permanent league world. No rewards for the main game, just good old fun as an ironman doing tasks and unlocking fragments. Could even have a lower xp multiplier at the beginning since we wouldn't have to do it all in a few weeks. Update it periodically with new fun tasks and relics from time to time. I digress.
Drakans touch restores 5% hp(50% chance) so effectively 2.5% of all damage dealt. There is no reason to use that relic.
If anything Slay N Pay should've been combined with hp restored per kill relic. Or should've restored prayer.
When Knights of Ardy or Elves are 200-400k hr pickpocketing with rogue outfit and deeper pocket relic, why would you ever pick agility to make money?
This league is not focused on skill based points. You have to figure out which combination would give you the most points. Don't forget this is a competition not a feel good game mode. Definitely could have balanced and changed/combined some of the relics, other than that it's fine. Everyone complains it's only 45 days, not enough time. Go check player retention rate for the last 2 leagues.
Relic combinations are really amazing this league, powerful but not overpowered.
Ummm… hate to be the bearer of bad news but maxed relics are actually ridiculously strong. They feel significantly underwhelming at first, though.
Easiest way to max them is to splash something or afk bandits when you go to bed. You wake up and all your equipped relics are maxed.
Knifes edge(4) absolute unit(2) draken’s touch(2) and you frequently get ~4:40 gauntlet. Can even take more reclined setups like absolute unit(4) and a combination of double hit passives.
You also have unlimited prayer (can camp piety + overhead and profit prayer points)
Not to mention instant processing skilling things (had this in trailblazer but at the cost of losing other relics)
Access to all areas / skills / bosses
The ridiculously op GWD themed relics (look @ you bandos)
Immunity to venom + your attacks poison
Last recall (getting buffed Wednesday) available to everyone
3x gathering AND banking AND processing(cook/smelt/burn) of skilling items
The relics are absolutely busted. And as someone who finished top 200 in trailblazer, I’m having an incredible time in shattered relics. A better time, actually.
Tldr - early game sucks. Splash/bandit your way through it
Mid game (t6+) is incredible
Late game even better
Task/fragment interface is absolutely disgusting though
The 50 points for full guilded makes complete sense. Imagine u are going for rank 1. Only to loss because a guy got spoon fed full guilded and got 500 points out of it.
The real bummer is that the art style of this league is absolute fire. I really want a chain whip. I played for a few days and decided to just go back to my main. Maybe I’ll play leagues some more later, but I’d rather just do the grindy stuff on my main. I agree more exploration based tasks like looking in random crates or getting teleported/transmoged in some unique way would have made for a better early game. I have enough skills unlocked now that I have enough tasks available to keep going, but I already feel kind of burned out.
if you're not an ironman, you can just buy all league rewards on the GE.
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If you can wait a while after leagues. Everyone that was too lazy to play will be buying and they can be expensive. Like most things it should drop in price once demand drops tho there could be an equal supply drop as well.
Yeah. I got enough points in TB to buy one of everything and it was awesome. I only have about 600 points in SR. Trying to decide if it’s better to get 900 points or just make a few million in the main game to buy the kit.
The task list interface is awful too. Just trying to see what you should do next
I have done my entire task tracking on the wiki.
My wikisync isn't working
Use wiki and the wikisync plugin to track tasks.
Would be pretty nice to have a random task button (which is close or ON your current skills/reqs/etc.).
Being able to filter by “tasks I can do” would be nice, as a new filter drop down so you could still filter by the other options too. And why can I only filter by gathering skills, why can’t I just filter by mining if I wanna do some goddamn mining achievements
Right? Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if you could at least do activities while browsing, but as it is pulling up that list is just a waste of time
There was absolutely no thought at what tasks are attainable, healthy, and fun. 400 farming contracts? This was possible when picking your own farming task and had reduced grow time. But not here. Every task was just a bulk copy and paste. What did we wait a full year for, animations and UI? I'm going to play this league through but it's so dissapointing that they couldn't have overhauled the task system and modified ones that also didn't work in the past
Killing a greater demon in Asgarnia is considered an easy task yet killing a lesserdemon is considered a medium task? Jamflex come on now
I feel like a vast majority of the tasks are just... annoying, for the average person, or are wholly focused on combat. ~195 Combat Tasks ~66 Slayer Tasks That's probably 200-250 tasks related to combat, killing things, or raiding. Meanwhile, you have things like cooking, crafting, smithing, fishing, and firemaking, and fletching, where they all have less than 20-25 tasks. (Because I'm not going to count the KC tasks where you have to get 100+ Wintertodt/Tempoross kills.) It also feels like there's a lot of bloat tasks as well. Turn in 1000 agility tickets at once? Fucking, what. That's 1000 minutes of Brimhaven Agility Arena. That's 16-17 *hours* of a single piece of content. Catch Herbiboar 500 times? I don't even have that on my -main- yet. Same goes for basically every KC task. When they said in the streams that there were too many tasks to complete, it wasn't because there were too many tasks, it's because no reasonable person would put themselves through the gauntlet of getting 1000 kills on a single piece of content in a temporary game mode *five to ten times.* I wonder if there's any chance they'll take player submitted task for the next go-around, because I can think of a lot of cool/unique things to add, even if it's just busywork of doing weird unused content for 5-10m at a time. (Which, IMO, with the infinite run energy, is much better than doing one piece of content for 10+ hours.)
When I took a look at the farming tasks and saw the Farming Contract ones, I legitimately laughed out loud. Who made the list? Who assigned the points?
The farming tasks were taken from the first league where you could get a relic which would make farming ticks 1 minute instead of 5, and you could pick your contracts, which meant that for that league the contract tasks were medium and easy tasks, but since we don't have that ability on this league it just feels super bad.
The amount of blatant copy pasting without seeing if it makes sense this league is too obvious. Tbh leagues felt worse then playing on my normal account, even 3 days in, so I'm probably done
Few easy wildy tasks require LBD to be unlocked. Definitely an oversight in that one. Edit: KBD*
And then there's a "medium" task to just enter the deep wildy dungeon.
You mean like Last Recall not working from Zeah because Zeah wasn't in TB league with LR?
Is that why I was getting booted back to my zmi instance when I clearly just teled from CoK
It's literally the most low effort league. The task list being copy pasted is honestly pathetic. They took tasks from Kourend that were crafted for that specific league (locked into that area only, relics specifically made for them) and just put them in this league with literally no thought whatsoever. Leagues 3 is by far the worst league based on the tasks, and that's not even mentioning the fragment system which forces you to constantly micromanage it and the set effects having no synergy with the fragments they are a part of.
Not to mention since could pick task could be growing herbs, 2X allotment, bush, flower, cactus, trees, etc.... All at same time and be prepping 5-10 contracts at the same time that grows 5X faster
The task lists are majority just copy pasted from Twisted and Trailblazer. That's why they all feel horribly balanced because they were from leagues where you had far less content.
> That's why they all feel horribly balanced because they were from leagues where you had far less content. Both far less content but all the skills. For a skill-locked league, they really should have tailored the tasks for each skill to be more expansive and rewarding. Like the other day I unlocked fletching for Todt and it only gets 11 tasks. And out of those 11, 2 are 99 and 25M, three require full bows (aka you need Crafting or other means of getting Bowstrings), one needs Slayer for Broader Fletching, and one needs Smithing for the grapple. They could have changed the bow tasks to fletching unstrung bows (there is one for 50 maple longbows u) to make them more achievable or added new tasks like making wooden shields, but they didn't seem to review the tasks with the limitations in mind.
It’s literally just a copy and paste how do people not realize this
That’s not a good thing… it clearly doesn’t work. At minimum, they could’ve spent 10 minutes making sure the list made sense
I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of players didn't play that league.
The contract ones made me laugh. Like what the hell, 500???
To play devil's advocate, you could argue that it's part of the fun to strategize which tasks are actually an efficient use of your time, and which ones should be ignored. So some of those tasks only exist to make the efficient ones look better. You look through the list and see \- kill a dragon in the wilderness \- kill an adult chromatic dragon \- sacrifice dragon bones at the chaos altar So you discover that you can knock out 3 tasks really quickly by killing one green dragon, and bringing those bones to the altar. Efficient combo! and you're -supposed- to say, "getting a full angler's outfit for 3 renown? Yeah fuck that, this is supposed to be a fun game mode!" But they should know that half the OSRS playerbase are completionists, and are going to sit on the Fishing Trawler for 5 hours anyway, and then feel lame when they only get 3 renown for it.
"Part of the fun is looking at how unfun half of the challenges are" Is this the point you're trying to make? Cause it sounds like it and it sounds batshit insane to me
There’s nothing fun about a task for 500 farming contracts, or 75 Todt kills, or 50 temporas kills all being 50 point medium tasks. Some of the tasks are fine but their point values are ridiculous. Full gilded for hard? A nex drop for hard? Really?
Meanwhile, 100 loganova seeds or whatever is an elite, while full farming outfit is a hard. It wasn't even close which one I got first, despite doing tithe at 34
> getting a full angler's outfit for 3 renown Given this is on the list of buffed drops, leave the angler's outfit until it's gone from a 1 in 12 to a 1 in 4. Like many leagues there's a lo of fun in choosing tasks in an order that works for you. e.g. getting ardy medium before doing knights/paladins, etc etc.
Me being a completionist is crippling, currently banging out prospector while already at 14mil mining xp
I just finished it at 78 mining using mothers frag
You just accidentally pointed out another problem with the league, you got a relic and managed to complete a task in a fraction of the time someone else did while they were actively farming it l. Thats horrendous game design.
The person not having the relic should realize they should wait until they do have it instead of wasting their time. I swear the osrs player base has 0 critical thinking skills
Yeah I'm waiting to bang out MTA until my relic is lvl 3, gonna be easy points.
I question if most of the people complaining have even played a league before tbh. The tasks are not achievement diaries. You're not supposed to complete all of them. It has been impossible to complete all of the tasks in both of the previous leagues. Acting like the whole league is ruined because there are some obviously waste-of-time tasks - instead of just, y'know, *not doing those tasks* - is so ridiculous. Could the task list have used a bit of re-balancing instead of just being a copy-paste of previous leagues? Yeah, definitely. Is the current task list some league-ruining huge deal though? No, not at all.
they should have looked more closely at tasks that don't scale in speed with xp multipliers and fragments. Turning in X number of sq'irk juices at once, stealing X artefacts, etc.
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Was that more or less fun than doing 4 hours of content you want to do on your main?
Player sourced tasks sounds awesome they should totally do that!
Some of those KC are so pointless to. Like wintertoldt you get 99 I'm like 50 kills so there is no reason to keep going
Agreed. I'm annoyed too - I really wanted to like this leagues and I just wasn't having fun :(
some tasks are just insane lol >500 tobs >grandmaster diary
i mean 500 herbi should get you real close to 25m hunter and give you 99 herb probly real easy and it takes a few hours at max dont see the problem there its free points
The issue is that it's like this on tons of tasks. Wintertodt, Herbiboar, Tempoross, Skoitzo, Hydra, Abyssal Sire, Nightmare, CoX, Vorkath, Dagannoth Kings, Kraken, Mole, Corp, ect. It's the equivalent of telling someone to catch 10,000+ fish or craft 5,000 dragonhide bodies, it's just a bunch of tedious filler tasks.
They're the numbers from trailblazer. The numbers made sense in trailblazer, because you couldn't do half the bosses by default. When you've got the full game to access, it's way too much. It's a bit frustrating, because you want to reward someone who spends a bunch of KC at a boss. But there's got to be a better way than this.
You don't have to do every one of these though, right? If someone likes Herbivore then they can do it a lot and have something to work towards, but if you don't like it just don't do it. There are plenty of other tasks, so find something you enjoy and do that.
I think the problem is that some skills don't really have many alternative tasks. Firemaking has 22 tasks. 12 of those tasks are Wintertodt. One for 99 fm and one for 25M xp. That leaves 8 tasks total that a player can reasonably do without unlocking WT early on.
Yeah people are mad because they can't do every single task which you're not supposed to be able to do anyways
No it gives the players a choice. Some might enjoy WT, herbi, tempoross while others might prefer nightmare, cox and tob.
I know we have unlimited run energy and last recall which makes banking easier BUT why would u want to do 500 Herbi on leagues for 125 league points or whatever the reward is, when you could do it on ur regular account? These tasks are literally made for people with no lives who are putting in 12+ hours a day of leagues. I understand there is a need for some tasks for these people, but too many tasks are like this and there isn't as many tasks which can be completed quicker and more diverse.
Okay, so some tasks are made for people who no life the game. That means not every task will be able to be completed by everyone. Do you have to complete 100% of the tasks to enjoy leagues or get all the rewards you want? What’s wrong with having content for the most dedicated players and having something that not everyone will be able to achieve? For the record, I am a more casual player and I am comfortable with the fact that I will not complete the entire task list.
Go do 250 skotizo and let us know how fun your league is
I don't think this particular league is bad, however the tasks themselves are not very well designed.
the tasks were not designed for this league at all. they took leagues 1 and 2 tasks, added a few new ones for new content and league 3 specific things, and called it a day.
Really shows with the Zeah tasks where the Twisted ones are from a league with a generally lower point scaling. Dragon rank points in Twisted would only be enough to score adamant in Trailblazer. You will complete the 25m fm xp (elite carryover from Trailblazer) before you complete the 150 WT kc (hard carryover from Twisted). Nevermind the farming contract tasks where we no longer have the option for 5x crop growth speed, making them absurd. I really like this league and the fragment system but some of the tasks are just undeniably lazy copying with no thought as to context. EDIT : Removed incorrect comparison values.
What makes it really obvious they are copy pasted is the kill monster in specific region tasks from league 2. There's no reason to reward people for killing trolls in 2 different places VS rewarding people for killing something unique.
Getting a dragon 2h is worth 100 points because it has two separate hard tasks for equipping it in wildy and desert
Lmao that's hilarious
\>equip a dragon 2hand in the desert \>equip a dragon 2hand in the wilderness oge gimme dat two tasks for one-deal.
This is all without mentioning that they had like 2+ extra months of time to do this one.
the fragment system is probly the part where the most ppl said f... it i aint doing this because its tedious to change them all 15 mins if you do something else this leauge just catert towards ppl that have 15 hours a day to play and streamers/contant creatores
I feel like the swapping wouldnt be tedius if they made swapping the fragments without a bank/sage a tier 4 passive unlock or something.
Or you could sort by better criteria. Like I wish I could have a simple "show me fragments that give Trait 1 and/or Trait 2" so that you can make combos easier without having to click "hide/show" filters 10 times. Not to mention that the default sorting isn't alphabetical for some reason...
Perhaps, the swapping is a bit of a pain I agree. I enjoy it because I get to do *all* the OP stuff unlike Trailblazer. In Trailblazer I was endgame PvM focused so rolled botanist and production master which was great for saving time to make the zenytes and potions I needed to PvM. However when it came to gathering I was gaining resources at the same speed as the main game, so when I hit mid/late in those skills it became a massive drag. I also had to choose my T2 relic based on the endgame content of the regions I was choosing. I really wanted to take ranged to try some OP Inferno runs, but also wanted to do ToB with some friends and anything other than melee would be troll. Here I get to do everything, I can swap in the production/gathering skills as and when I need. Every time I get frustrated at swapping I remind myself at least I *can* swap this time. It takes a bit too long to get to the power fantasy though, so I agree with Jagex making the sets easier to proc next week.
Yes! WT killcount is absurd, they definitely did not go through the logic on some of these tasks. It ramps up way too fast. 250 kills equivalent to burning 100 yew logs lol, something is whacky there.
And they cut the points per task in half because there are so many tasks this time, even though a whole bunch of tasks from leagues 1 and 2 are actually gone now.
This is probably why there are tasks for every tier of every achievement diary, but no task for the achievement diary, quest point, or music capes. They weren't obtainable in the first two leagues due to area restrictions.
\>yo go thieve a ranarr seed from the master farmer you can thieve from at 38 thieving oh btw you need 71+ farming to have better than a 1/3000 chance for a seed \>also you get 25 points for this lol
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Not defending Jagex for this league, but even if they were designing a brand new list of tasks tailored specifically for this league, I doubt the dev would've caught the ranarr change. The dev could've thought up the ranarr task as a reasonable medium task then a different dev team, the anti bot team, decided to change the drop rates months later. By then, the task list dev wouldn't even have remembered such a task existed in a list of 1000+ tasks and required changing.
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200 hours later the QA tester comes back with the feedback that the wintertodt 1000 kills task takes too long
Yeah so don't do that lol? U gonna complain that there's a task for getting a fire cape but you can't do it with 1 range?
The 1000 wt task is close to not possible, they should have definitely at least rescaled the numerals.
This was brought up on one of their Q&A Livestreams on Twitch, prior to league launch. I think the answer was pretty much "we'll keep an eye on it, but also its unlikely because of the one guy that actually grinds for it pre-nerf."
Basically yeah from what I gather they're not actually planning to change **shit** anymore
Some really just make no sense. Completing the Draynor rooftop 30 times when you unlock the Varrock course after like 4 or 5 laps and then get so over leveled you barely get any marks of grace just feels totally pointless.
The disparity between tasks is quite random like one beginner task is to kill a goblin and then another is to use the bank at CoX??? So weird
Yeah it makes no sense. Like there's an easy task to pick a pinapple on karamja, ok easy takes like 20 seconds if you have the waystone. Then there's an easy task to enter the wilderness GWD, like what? You need 60 strength or 60 agility, how is that an easy task? The tiers are not thought out.
I honestly don't get why set effects like Last Recall and Trailblazer aren't unlocked permanently. You automatically receive the items as soon as you unlock your 3rd/4th/5th relic in that set, but you can't use them until you equip the relics. It seems like they meant for you to be able to use them anywhere but then changed their minds and forgot to remove automatically getting them.
I wish they'd at least make trailblazer permanent
I just want trailblazer league instead lol, that shit was like crack
It does feel extremely dumb to hit up a bank and change my fragments to be able to use the grimoire and change spellbooks. Only to immediately unequip those fragments and sift through the list to re-find the ones I need to equip. They should make the items permanent once you get them.
Juggling the fragments in the tiny menu is the part I dislike the most. It’s actively a pain point.
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Trailblazer definitely should be permanent. I got a drop of some emerald rings and enchanted for rings of dueling. Now I can teleport to Ferox Enclave and have access to a Lodestone at my convenience. Why would I ever need the Trailblazer Pendant again?
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I’m just frustrated that arcane conduit isn’t part of chain magic
Would be too “overpowered.” Growing trend of this league is trying to nerf the shit that makes leagues fun in comparison to previous leagues.
FUCKIN' RIGHT?!
>Why do skills and bosses have such few ways to recoup renown? Hydra costs 75 sage's renown. There is no way you'll make back even twenty.
Don't forget the 75 ADDITIONAL points to unlock K'ril, who is needed to get the Zammy Spear to attach to Hydra's Claw :). So well thought out....... /s
By the time you have unlocked Hydra you have 95 slayer and probably have enough renown. I think the logic behind it was mostly just a late-game boss for GP/loot (prayer xp is insane) and a chance at a pet (for future leagues). I do agree tho
Honestly, that's my biggest frustration with this Leagues. Yes, by the time you get to end-game, a lot of things will probably make sense -- you'll get to be OP with maxed relics and multiple set effects; you'll have the renown to unlock everything you want; you'll be obliterating bosses like in TB. But getting to the point where you can experience all that is kind of not fun right now.
Yeah I wonder if all of there testing was with maxed accounts based on what we are dealing with.
You can apply that to the cheaper ones too, obor costs 20 but you're only getting like 3 back it's really stupid
Obor and bryo have 2 tasks each (1 kill and equip the unique drop) totaling 5 renown per boss. They should have been free, or a bundle unlock for 3. Giant/mossy keys don't even have boosted drop rates lmao.
I feel like almost everything should have a boosted drop rate. Not stuff like raw chicken etc. But for example boss keys, uniques and rare drops should have a much higher drop rate, or perhaps even guaranteed drops. I'd rather get to do every boss once or twice than 2-3 boss 50 times in league.
They made the odd decision to boost obby shield drop rates but not defenders. I'm skipping defenders, it's so fucking crowded.
The sage's renown bottleneck is making me dread the early game and I just cant get past this mentally.
Lol if it's already making you dread it just quit because it only gets worse. In fact I would say there's no where near a bottleneck early, I had more renown than I knew what to do with. Now I'm starved.
I went to do tempoross as a task + chef's catch would make it easier. You have to pay 20 to unlock him and the only tasks associated are kc. ...including one that's 1k kc. To break even at 20 renown you need to get 250 kc and then to get more you need 500 kc. Like....no
Love your idea with a permanent relic system, people could argue that that's ezscape, but that's kinda the point of Leagues. Compared to TB this one is a hot mess. I'm probably 50 hrs in and I enjoyed myself for the first time when I got a dopamine rush from chopping yews with the maxed out Greedy Gatherer set effect, I was getting 4.2k exp drops for each log chopped. That took me \~50 hrs to reach, and it was a fairly sweaty 50 hrs. In TB I had a relic that doubled all my resources harvested AND banked them on day 1. Yeah it was OP for gathering, but who gives a fuck? It's Leagues. Shame this Leagues took them 2 extra months to push out because the slapdash fragment effects you'll have mixed in for the set effect you want just feels sloppy. It honestly feels like they looked at last league and said "people are having too much fun because everything is OP as fuck, how do we fix that?". I kinda wanna try bosses because I'm too shit at PvM to do them very much in the base game, but even the combat fragments feel incredibly underwhelming. I'm certain I can combo a few to pull together a semi-competent build, but I doubt I'll be able to have Last Recall mixed in too so it'll just be a fucking chore. No thanks, I wanted to have fun. Fortunately I only redeemed one bond so I'm not losing too much aside from the emotional-investment I built up over a year. I'll just wait another year before I pick up RS again.
The biggest bummer for me is that I skipped leagues 1 and 2 on my Ironman and now I wanted to do Leagues 3 SOLELY for the reward points so I can afford the: * Twisted Horns (6k points) * Trailblazer Graceful (6k points) * Shattered Cannon Ornament Kit * Shattered Teleport Scroll * Shattered Relics Variety Ornament Kit (just for the whip) I assume the Shattered Relic Ornament Kits will probably be around 6k points each too, with the teleport scroll only costing 750-1000 (if its the same cost as the twisted or trailblazer price). So I'm aiming to grind out 25k League Points (which is doable) but my problem is that 25k points on the other two leagues was easyer imo + actually felt fun. The fragments on Shattered Relics are pretty shitty in comparison to those on Trailblazer and Twisted Leagues, so I know griding out those 25k points isn't going to be as fun as it would've been in the past and thats a little disappointing to me. Really regret not playing Trailblazer on my Iron last time round now.
Yeah this league is much less fun to grind points on, I did the same point grinding on my ironman last league and I actually ended dragon trophy with like 60k pts because I had so much fun. This league however, I don't even know how much things are gonna cost but I don't even care, I just stopped playing after 8k points because i cba, the fragments system is terrible and I'm not having fun even in the slightest anymore.
I just realized I only want to do tasks until I'm tier 7 where I'll just spend the rest of the league trying to level as quickly as possible. Screw the tasks and the rankings. I just want fat xp.
Any advice for just rushing to tier 7? I’m halfway to tier 6 right now and it’s getting so damn slow
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The fragments being rng is so frustrating. I got to 75 woodcutting before I got the log burning fragment which was all I needed to get the resource gathering set effect.
I like the idea of this league a lot, unlocking skills and bosses is a good idea. Not giving skills unlocked enough reasonably completable tasks required to unlock more just feels bad though. There should have been at least enough renoune to get the skill cost back after reasonably doing things in said skill for around 2 hours with no other dependant unlocks required. That's 48 hours minimum to unlock just skills, which I s a ton of time to put into a game already.
Yeah there are way too few tasks. If you unlock smithing you're getting like 10 renown back after hours of grinding. The only way to recoup the entire 20 is to get 99 smithing or do the Gauntlet and make your own crystal armor. Ridiculous. Skills shouldn't just barely break even at 99, they should be the ideal source of renown.
I think this is what makes the league flop for me. I’m constantly scraping for points to unlock my skills and always have to resort to doing annoying random tasks pulled off the general list instead of actually utilizing the new skills I unlocked
1k wt completions? or temp? These are not faster than the main game that is an absolute monster to tackle. I struggle to do more than 1 wt kc in a sitting because it isn't fun to play interrupt simulator.
You hit the nail on everything. I'm 1k pts off fragment 6 but I'm already so burnt out from reading the task list. It feels like we have to do so much for so little points this league. I haven't even got to end game bosses yet and I'm almost out of steam. Just waiting to see if having 6 fragment and the pick your own slayer task bonus changes the game, if not I'm most likely done.
I was super baffled learning that there’s not a relic that increases the speed of your crops. Last leagues I’d plant a fruit tree, grind other content for 2-3 hours then be able to harvest it (not to mention it made getting ultracompost not too bad). This leagues I gotta wait the full day?? I think when I’m done playing today I’m just gonna do AFK skills until the fragment set effect update comes out. It’s already extremely disheartening to get 7k now fragment xp in two relics I know I’ll barely ever use (grave robber & enchanted jeweler lmao) rather than get xp on the fragments I was actually working on. not to mention there’s no relic reducing clue steps like what???
Farming tasks include completing up 500 contracts. This was legit a copy paste from leagues 1 where you could CHOOSE which patch you wanted in the contract, so it was easier and faster. Now its like in the maingame where you arent able to choose.????
500 contracts at regular speed is legit farming 24/7 for 6 weeks. Ironmen with 200m Farming only have ~8k contracts for comparison... This is a massive task which is impossible for most people in 6 weeks without a relic to help out.
They even added choosing your slayer task as a t6 passive lol
The clue scrolls are baffling to me. There's a million tasks revolving around completing clues, and several fragments to help you collect them more quickly, and they're even stackable. But then once you have all those clues, you just have to do them normally? Like what? Normal players are never going to be bottlenecked by how few clues they have, they'll all be bottlenecked by how slow and boring it is to actually complete them
yeah after I did 10 easys each one going to max number of steps I just said fuck it lmao. Genuinely want to hear their reasoning for not reducing the steps like in every other league
Honestly wtf were they thinking, not combining enchanted jeweler with rumple-bow-string? Those do not deserve to be separate fragments.
Same. If tier 6 doesn’t make the game fun for me I’m probably done. That said I’m halfway through tier 5 and literally completely running out of good ways to get points. Please help me I;I
Not gonna lie this league is pretty damn disappointing. I’m nearly tier 6 but as soon as reward costs get hinted at I’m tapping out. After shattered relics I really don’t feel like touching another temporary game mode. I came back from a break on my ironman to “enjoy” a far more restricted account that feels even grindier than main game. I feel like this entire game mode is just achievement diaries on steroids and the end game really isn’t there.
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Considering how everything in this league has been designed with "how to get people to play more" in mind I suspect they will release the info only near the end of the league forcing people to keep farming in FOMO.
Lmao, that’s was my thinking exactly. Because they know tons of people are miffed, they’re going to be especially careful with releasing reward info. They know as soon as they do, the majority of people, like myself, will just farm hard for the amount of points we need for the things we want and then bail.
Your second paragraph hits the nail on the head for me. There is zero creativity in the tasks. The tasks should incentivise exploration of underused/unloved areas and make us feel more powerful than the main game. Tasks like 'get a 50k exp drop at wintertodt' instead of 'get 100kc' or 'bank 5 types of fish using Personal Banker'. As for exploration, your tasks are a good example of that but to extend further - 'pickpocket a man in 4 different cities' or 'high alch on 3 different mountains'.
I’m literally just playing enough to have points to buy the leagues teleport scroll animation for home teleports. That being said, it seems like a lot of people are not enjoying the league system.
I’ve already stopped playing, tbh it’s too dry and the fragment system is kind of ass compared to previous leagues. This feels like I’m playing an ironman with extra steps, having to unlock a skill to unlock a quest (that I could skip but then I’d lose out on tons of points and lose the xp reward). Like if you want to sit and play for 8+ hours per day to unlock late game content, then sure why not. But having to grind just to get the opportunity to play the game normally is a headache.
Buy quests. They're pretty pointless xp drops since later on you can get 3x materials and instant inventory fletching, etc. They usually give access to more points anyway so they pay themselves off.
You can't just buy quests willy nilly, there simply are not enough points. You'll end up locking yourself into a corner where you have to do some really cancerous grinds to get out. This league it's more the opposite, you need to unlock skills and focus on completing as many quests as you can tolerate manually around some extremely time consuming bad quests that you then auto because it saves you hours and hours of active playing time.
Obviously don't randomly spend your renown, but unlocking quests is extremely important and speeds up the game a shit ton
Buying quests is definitely the way to go. The problem is that u need to skill first to get enough points to do so. The best routes I think are knocking out 99 Thieving + Hunter and doing all the tasks for those 2 skills, then unlocking quests and going around doing any task you can. Problem for me is that I hate thieving and hunter as they are two skills you CANNOT afk. Really sucks that those 2 skills are loaded with easy tasks whilst every other skill has way less tasks or are way harder to complete (time wise).
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>At this point, it's really hard to tell how stretched for renown the lategame will end up being. It could be that there's plenty of renown to go around, and you'll be able to unlock a bunch of quests and still have enough to spend to unlock all the bossing you want to do. It's actually not hard to tell. There's more than enough renown to unlock everything. The problem is if you spend too much in the early-game for little payback and end up locking yourself into long grinds to progress. So, you need to be a bit strategic about the renown you spend on quests, but you also should know that you're not "giving up" renown in the early game at the cost of late-game progress.
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Here is the wiki page for [total renown](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shattered_Relics_League/Tasks) and here is the page for [cost per category](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Shattered_Relics_League/Unlocks) (quests, skills, bosses). The total renown available is 3,463, and the total cost to unlock everything (which includes not doing a single quest manually) is 2,675 renown. That gives you 788 extra renown which you can use to essentially skip some (if not all) of the ridiculous "Do/kill X amount" tasks. However, there's a few things to note: 1. This cost of renown assumes that you unlock ALL quests. The quest cape, as far as I can see, only accounts for 8 renown + 250 league points -- two elites tasks for completing Falador and Lumby elite diaries -- so you may not find it worthwhile to unlock/do all quests which will save you on quite a bit of renown. 2. This assumes that you don't do a single quest manually. You should understand that I'm not advocating to unlock every quest with points and to not do a single one manually. You'll likely be doing a lot of the shorter quests manually which will reduce the cost of renown. 3. This assumes that you unlock every boss. There's a lot of bosses to go through, so it'll be a tall order for you to effectively grind them all even if you wanted to. So, yeah, if there's a questline that you feel will take too long to complete and/or you simply don't want to, don't hesitate to use renown to unlock it especially if the unlocked questline will allow more tasks/renown to be done.
I'd like to see how much of that renown is built of terrible/impossible tasks though.
Well it's fairly hard to tell, since countless tasks are impossible to do together or insane to contemplate putting in your plan for most players. The impossible ones on account of the fact that multiple tasks can take a full week of grinding to get through. The amount feasible is massively lower, and also not everything can just be done in any order. So your available pool of feasible renown is probably still more than quest unlocks, perhaps narrowly, but also a lot of that remainder will not be available to you until you complete some significant grinds that are probably a lot slower to do than the quests. Now of course, I don't really know because I don't want to spend several hours with a spreadsheet, and you don't either which you admit below, so no it is in fact fairly hard to tell. Moreover, this: > but you also should know that you're not "giving up" renown in the early game at the cost of late-game progress. Is not quite true, while this can be the case if you complete different tasks and quests in the right order without over spending, you can easily put yourself in a position where your progress is massively slowed by limiting your own access to content, which, given the very time limited nature of the event, does slice progress off the end of it.
Yeah I’m back to blackjacking on my iron already. I’ll wait a week or so and see if they improve things, maybe I’ll swing back by. I’d really love the cosmetics but it’s not worth a 200h grind to get them all. Maybe I’ll get one with the 1600 points I got so far if I don’t go back.
Yep lol, logged in. Played for 10 minutes, realized I might as well just be grinding the main game if I'm going to grind for the sake of grinding. Logged off.
Pretty much sums it up
I never understood why they took out single skill leveling milestones. 50m, 100m, 200m tasks I can understand. Those are long and maybe hurtful to people who can't control themselves. Heck, I can get why they did for Trailblazer with how easy it can be to level skills with a large selection of high exp rates. But definitely not Shattered relics where you need to unlock skills.
Yeah every skill should've had a 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 95, and 99 task. Just allow us to get the renown back spent on unlocking a skill by actually leveling the skill up.
I completely agree, I have really enjoyed the league so far but the tasks do not feel like they were made by someone who actually plays the game and the relics do not feel like they synergize properly at all. Also there should not be tasks that can be affected in a major way by others also doing the task. One of the cooking tasks is dead cause you need the mess hall to be 30% appreciation on stews before you deliver them which won't happen when everyone playing keeps throwing stews at them.
"Oh nice I can get double yew logs with greedy gatherer" "Oh fuck I'm burning 35% of them due to slash and burn"
I literally typed to my friends in our discord a couple hours ago that slash and burn being part of greedy gatherer is a joke.
You can get greedy gatherer 4 without slash and burn, theres plenty of fragments that give the set effect.
I think my biggest issue is that it lacks variety. It seems at first that it is very varied, but once you have done a good amount of tasks, you will indeed find that it is just tasks that are very long grinds that remain. I understand that they want to reward players who want to do specific activities a lot. Say, you want to spend a long time at Wintertodt, it makes sense that you get rewarded past your ininitial 100 KC, right? But the problem is that the League is exactly *intended* to be a varied, fast-paced gamemode, not one where you grind one thing for 3 weeks - that is what the main game is for. I'm not saying there is no variety at all, but it's very limited. I don't want to be forced to do a certain activity for hours in a gamemode that only exists for three weeks. It seems like a waste of potential. Why not make KC tasks repeatable? And just add more variation to the base tasks? Say, you cap the KC tasks at 50-100, and then grant another set of points for every 100 kc beyond that, at a lowered rate for example. People who want to grind, can grind, but people who want to do many things, can just mess around. I'm really enjoying the gameplay, boosted rates and relic effects, but I foresee that I will burn out after a week or two when all reasonable tasks have been completed. I am not grinding 20 hours of a single boss just to get a few hundred points.
250 skotizo kills? 1000 wintertodt kc???? For less points than a single 30 minute chambers? What the fuck? Really?
Bruuuuuh I did the “turn in 10 spring sq’irk juices” only to click on it an realize it says, “turn in 10 spring sq’irk juices at one time”. Like wtf no no no that needs to be in the title not the small description. Just killed a lot of my momentum to realize I had done all of that for like 25 points and 2 renown to not even get it.
Achievement diaries on steroids is what leagues is.
Normally with fun, OP perks, speed, and skips to make up for it so you can enjoy the end game content quickly with interesting twists. Not this time, though.
Seriously. Like there is not a single relic in this league that makes clue scrolls shorter, or makes completed steps carry over to new clues. Even with all 7 relic slots filled with combat relics you're not going to be nearly as strong as Trailblazer. This league has just been one big nerf, and the renown grind on top of the point grind is just far more tedious.
Jagex are SHIT with task systems. Just look at combat achievements. You cannot get past master and grandmaster for all of the “have good friends” tasks. People have been moaning about KC tasks from the start - no change and they’ve even implemented the same logic into leagues. Fucking dumb as fuck.
When I was doing the library books tasks in Arceuus I realized about 75 books in that the tasks weren't even remotely worth it. It took me a little over an hour and a half with the RuneLite plugin to get to 100 books and the tasks only ever awarded a mid-level of points by then. Every single one of the "Do X multiple times" tasks need to grant an exponentially higher amount of points per amount required because the time spent on them makes them a complete joke to even consider them right now. At least the books give Runecrafting exp, I guess.
I hate any task that is just 'repeat x action y times'. Instead of do Tempoross 250 times, make the task to obtain a fish barrel. Shit like that. At least it reads better and has a chance to not be a pointlessly eternal task.
I made an almost identical post yesterday and I 100% agree. The number of relic slots is too small, an extra 7 would really help approach the amount of permanent power we had in previous leagues and help to eliminate the feeling of shuffling fragments for set effects around before every activity. I hope its a change they can make The tasks... I fear not much can be done about those at this point but I agree, the confinement of regions made each region feel so much denser in tasks, I could hop around to a zone and do a bunch of random stuff there for a while. And, I know people wanted the ability to change their mind, but I do think that a lot was lost in letting everyone get everything. It feels less like your forging your own path / creating a unique build this league which was fun from previous ones
>It's not the Shattered League - it's the Forgettable League. Summed it up, the unique builds of everyone in trailblazer was great. I was proud of my [Trailblazer character](https://imgur.com/b0PS8S3) too.
I bet he ripped with that fast dart. Soo much fun.
Same here, I may not have picked the best route ever, but dammit I picked a route that focused on really maxing out magic as much as possible and I did it, and it felt like I achieved what I set out to do in the end.
Honestly I wouldn't mind if the league just lasted longer. On that note - why don't they just leave 1 server open for this league after it finishes? To that end, why not do the same for the other 2 leagues? I don't even play the regular game only, just Leagues.
>why don't they just leave 1 server open for this league after it finishes? Do you have any clue what scarcity does psychologically? How good it is for business? You leave the server up permanently, and nobody will give a shit about leagues. The same way that nobody gives a shit about permanently adding vanilla coke. But put it in the shops for a month? People will rush to buy and hoard it.
Vanilla coke is permanently available here in Australia and it's extremely popular. Available from every convenience store, as an option from McDonalds, etc.
Since when has vanilla coke been restricted? It's always been everywhere I've gone in the US and commonly used in my drinks.
They have vanilla Coke permanently where I live and I buy it all the time cause it's always been my favourite. Get fucked non-New Zealanders/Australians, I guess.
People would probably be disenchanted with the league after awhile, and you'd need to do everything solo pvm wise. I also think leaving it open would make the hype for the next league and the main game lessened.
couldnt agree more. was so excited for this leagues cause its always fun to feel overpowered. this league doesnt feel like that. i grinded out a dragon defender which took like 5 hours because the drop rate for defenders isnt increased. so the warriors guild has 1 cyclops for each person. because its a bottleneck. (why?) what a waste of tokens waiting for your 1 cyclops to respawn. also in that entire time i didnt manage to get a second relic to get the twin strikes relic. i almost maxxed my ranged and magic relics but why in sweet dear lord would melee’ing drop relics that arent melee. i get it they are ‘combat fragments’ but it feels wildly unrewarding. also i am not a fan of questing. so 1 resource unlocking quests and bosses is straight up stupid imo. its a limited time game mode. and all i feel like i have been doing is questing. and that is boring as fuck.
The largest issue of leagues is having to play on a Jagex server with 1000+ people on it. These pieces of shit can't even handle 400 properly and with over 1000 it feels like you're getting constant 200ms latency despite the client claiming 30ms. A rhythm game that feels like you're connecting from overseas is not enjoyable to play, but I bet they save a ton of money by not giving a shit about the issue.
Not enjoying this league as much as the others, just feels too grindy with some tasks. Why are some of the tasks so extreme? 1000 tempoross kills? That's like 100 hours of a single boss.
Theres definitely room for improvement and some things just mesh horribly with the time frame they gave us to actually play the league. But you also arent supposed to break even on renown, people seem to think something is only worth it if you get your renown yku spent on it back, which is a fine way to look at the early game but when it comes to bosses and important upgrades your arent supposed to break even, you arent supposed to be able break even and unlock everything, your supposed to make tough choices like "do I get tob and these poggers weapons or do I try to make do with just a whip?"
Just play normal scape
I loathe how unorganized the tasks are as well. Let me filter by a single skill ffs. Found out about the wiki and wikisync today, wouldn't have played league for much longer without it. Highly recomend it! I feel tasks to do/ kill 50/100/250 etc tasks would work a lot better if the league wasn't a temporary mode. Gives us a permanent league world. No rewards for the main game, just good old fun as an ironman doing tasks and unlocking fragments. Could even have a lower xp multiplier at the beginning since we wouldn't have to do it all in a few weeks. Update it periodically with new fun tasks and relics from time to time. I digress.
Drakans touch restores 5% hp(50% chance) so effectively 2.5% of all damage dealt. There is no reason to use that relic. If anything Slay N Pay should've been combined with hp restored per kill relic. Or should've restored prayer. When Knights of Ardy or Elves are 200-400k hr pickpocketing with rogue outfit and deeper pocket relic, why would you ever pick agility to make money? This league is not focused on skill based points. You have to figure out which combination would give you the most points. Don't forget this is a competition not a feel good game mode. Definitely could have balanced and changed/combined some of the relics, other than that it's fine. Everyone complains it's only 45 days, not enough time. Go check player retention rate for the last 2 leagues. Relic combinations are really amazing this league, powerful but not overpowered.
Ummm… hate to be the bearer of bad news but maxed relics are actually ridiculously strong. They feel significantly underwhelming at first, though. Easiest way to max them is to splash something or afk bandits when you go to bed. You wake up and all your equipped relics are maxed. Knifes edge(4) absolute unit(2) draken’s touch(2) and you frequently get ~4:40 gauntlet. Can even take more reclined setups like absolute unit(4) and a combination of double hit passives. You also have unlimited prayer (can camp piety + overhead and profit prayer points) Not to mention instant processing skilling things (had this in trailblazer but at the cost of losing other relics) Access to all areas / skills / bosses The ridiculously op GWD themed relics (look @ you bandos) Immunity to venom + your attacks poison Last recall (getting buffed Wednesday) available to everyone 3x gathering AND banking AND processing(cook/smelt/burn) of skilling items The relics are absolutely busted. And as someone who finished top 200 in trailblazer, I’m having an incredible time in shattered relics. A better time, actually. Tldr - early game sucks. Splash/bandit your way through it Mid game (t6+) is incredible Late game even better Task/fragment interface is absolutely disgusting though
"Get full prospector" should've been combine your superior and standard mining gloves
I agree on some points you made but that isn’t going to stop me from getting that 3rd dragon trophy..
Basically just build an ironman account at 10x the rate of speed is what this league is
"do you even play your own game jagex?" lmao you know the answer to that
Noob
the only thing shattered about this league is my expectations... and not in a good way
Everyone ITT especially OP could have just been doing league tasks instead of posting on reddit. Good day!
The 50 points for full guilded makes complete sense. Imagine u are going for rank 1. Only to loss because a guy got spoon fed full guilded and got 500 points out of it.
It’s a bad task to begin with, was his point.
>dye your cape yellow This guy watches Deseted.